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Sangal Analysis
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Turkey SkySea 
Here is my opinion about failure of Sangal ( by evaluating players ) Tldr: problem is majer and 3 foreigner player ( comms ) and only solution is cydrex but he moved to valorant Maj3r is main problem of our roster. His mid round calls and tacs are not on point. His understanding of game is kinda outdated. He is a great experience for the team but not as an igl. Also in critical maps which is sangal is getting better but not good as inferno, he is the weak link in ct side especially in mirage. Only logical reason for him to be in this roster is the fact that only igl in our scene is majer. Normally there was cydrex and he was so much better than him but couldnt show himself due to ex SS fans ( also cydrex was igl of 9ine which is xfl0ud ex team ) and he moved to valorant for some other reasons beside that. If he would come back to CS he is my first and only choice for sangal but that is kinda impossible since Turks care about friendship more than professional life. xfl0ud is playing in flusha's team and even he said that cydrex is the best igl in turkey 4sure and even better than flusha in some terms ( understandble since flusha is originally support player ) Ngin destroyed my prejudices about him. He improved himself a lot individually and he is great support player. At first i thought he would not be good enough for the team but he is doing ok rn S3NSEY is 17 y/o awper and his turkish is pretty bad ( majer's and ngin's turkish is also not enough they generally use eng in comms ) Since there are 3 originally foreigner in roster, comms are not good enough but sensey is great player individually. Due to language barrier he is not able to integrate himself as he would do in a normal team. Apart from that he is young and beast. P.S: He is solid support also Paz was a beast once but since he doesnt play fpl c he couldnt qualify for the fpl and imo he lacks some motivation. He is one of the best in turkey undoubtly but he destroyed his own career by playing with ex SS. Still he cant be stopped when he is on fire but he is not consistent. Still problem is not Paz Imorr is a great player. Probably best aimer after Xantares ( in our scene ) and a great awper. There was a lot of discussion about him to be main awper but there is no other entry in turkey thats why he is stucked with this but in ct Side he is perfect as an 2nd awper. I associate h?m wih k1to as he is entry in t Side and can be 2nd awper in ct whenever needed. Sangal's problem is not Imorr 4 sure although he has a pug style
2021-06-24 11:20
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damn I didnt know Maj3r and Ngin had bad turkish damn. I guess Maj3r sure because he seems more french, but that is probably their biggest problem from the beginning.
2021-06-24 11:25
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They can understand each other its not that bad but it is not even close to 5 swedish player comms. In voice comms videos. Paz speaks english with sensey since he cant understand everything in turkish. Also in stream jer said that when he says sensey go b sometimes he doesnt understand it and goes his default looool
2021-06-24 11:33
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no wonder this team is stuck in like t3/t2hell for such a long fucking time lul. btw what do you think about that woxic project? I think imorr is also going there maybe as well. I expect there to be real turkish comms tho no igl :/ I did kind of forget the projected roster tho tbh
2021-06-24 11:35
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There is no leak about roster but chrisj said he assumed the roster is full turkish. I am trying to imagine a turkish roster but apart from tarik there is no countable igl. Seems impossible to me if they dont go for tier55 turkish players, turkish team is impossible but my dream turkish team is Tarik w0xic Xantares Imorr Paz ( chemistry wont work with calyx since calyx had rough times with woxic ) But for international roster i assume this smth like this w0xic Issaa Rigon Chrisj ( eventhough he didnt admit it XD ) Nivera/NBK/Aizy
2021-06-24 11:46
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but isnt like the woxic and Calyx beef gone for this roster? Also I want to add for sure tarik aint on this roster for 2 reasons: 1. He is in NA and he aint going to EU for this 2. Does he even speak fluent turkish?
2021-06-24 11:51
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Maldives M4CK1NHO
1- Yea Tarik probably gonna switched to valorant 2- He can 3- Turkish roster : -Xantares ( he gonna leave from big %100 but probably join another t1 team but if w0xic find a good enough org maybe he can join them (looks not possible) -Paz he is a good player but he has a different character get him to this roster even harder than Xantares -imorr -Calyx -w0xic
2021-06-24 12:08
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Europe GKDNZ
Why hard to get paz
2021-06-24 12:28
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I think his view is this. If he will leave sangal for this roster he would leave sangal for playing in a tier1 game back then
2021-06-24 12:33
I dont see any t1 team that xantares can join. Most of them either National or doesnt lack a player
2021-06-24 12:36
Who is igl? I know Xantares was igl in 1.5 but they cant be succesfull here
2021-06-24 12:38
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Maldives M4CK1NHO
w0xic and xantares they can manage that
2021-06-24 12:40
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I dont think so.
2021-06-24 12:42
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Maldives M4CK1NHO
c'mon they can manage better than maj3r they just need a good coach
2021-06-24 14:47
Tarik doesnt speak turkish at all
2021-06-24 12:49
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He speaks turkish
2021-06-24 13:07
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No
2021-06-24 13:55
3 replies
Bro there are inteeviews with him
2021-06-24 14:30
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he doesnt speak it nowhere near good enough to be an igl on a full turkish team, it would just be the same as now
2021-06-24 14:33
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Bro he is speaking at videos much more better than jer and ngin. Majer and ngin speaks turkish for a few years and still so bad but after a time tarik can speak it as same as a native
2021-06-24 20:43
he speaks it better than s3nsey
2021-06-24 14:25
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that doesnt fix any communication issues, if you remove someone with broken turkish for someone with broken turkish
2021-06-24 14:32
sangal fix -maj3r -s3nsey +woxic +xantares paz igl top 30
2021-06-24 11:35
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Sensey > ngin
2021-06-24 11:38
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someone must take the shit role
2021-06-24 14:24
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Let Paz take the shit roles
2021-06-24 14:28
sounds right
2021-06-24 11:53
In my opinon, if you want a Turkish super team, you need XANTARES and woxic, ngin/paz/maj3r is just not tier 1
2021-06-24 11:57
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Paz is actually t1 player but he downgrades himself by playing in this team
2021-06-24 12:25
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has paz played on a top team? imoRR is good i think
2021-06-24 12:43
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paz played on space soldiers bro he is great t1 player maybe majer not but there's no turkish igl
2021-06-24 12:46
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why did he retire then? sangal is very low tier
2021-06-24 12:46
does paz speak good english? can he play on an international team
2021-06-24 12:47
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He speaks fluent english and german afaik
2021-06-24 13:05
paz has a good english also he graduated from translation
2021-06-24 13:07
paz studied translation and interpration, he speaks fluently
2021-06-24 14:26
hltv.org/news/22549/video-paz-vs-cloud9 you should be remembering this with your usa flag
2021-06-24 14:27
Paz also got offer from mouz back than
2021-06-24 12:33
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why would he do that?
2021-06-24 12:42
You will soon have the new lineup with woxic, Xantares and Calyx, just relax a Lil man.
2021-06-24 12:00
imorr = aim witout brain.
2021-06-24 12:02
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He is entry his job is to kill
2021-06-24 12:34
ok coach skysea
2021-06-24 12:03
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Ok no scene
2021-06-24 12:34
I think it is not only players... Turkish cs main problem is that orgs are not strong enough. They pay players relatively low, and they don’t invest in analysts, coaches etc. hardstyle is their coach. But he is mostly good at bringing up talents... he can’t prepare you for majors. I respect him but sangal or other turkish teams need more professional approach. I mean some teams have multiple coaches each focusing on different things; nades, anti-strats, player development etc. Turkish teams still could not adopt such approach.
2021-06-24 12:10
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Yeah thats a good point. I forgot about it. Sangal hired a analyst 10 days ago apart from that i did not see any solid analyst and i believe hardstyle is a good scout but bad in terms of tacs
2021-06-24 12:28
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Hired an analyst? Really? That is an improvement. Hope that pays off.
2021-06-24 12:44
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Yeah and this guy worked with teams like skade and Penta
2021-06-24 13:06
no TL;DR?
2021-06-24 12:29
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tldr: paz is very good and we will be top5 before 2021 ends
2021-06-24 12:34
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that's not correct
2021-06-24 12:42
actually good analytics
2021-06-24 12:42
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Thank u
2021-06-24 13:06
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Sweden Lagge15
Interesting take - seems reasonable check messages
2021-06-24 13:22
bad analysis. i dont know sensey, but maj3r and ngiN's Turkish are pretty good.
2021-06-24 13:25
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Where are you from? turkey ?
2021-06-24 13:35
My analysis: Save imorr
2021-06-24 13:38
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That works
2021-06-24 13:40
who?
2021-06-24 13:56
"Ngin destroyed my prejudices about him. He improved himself a lot individually and he is great support player." that was a joke, right?
2021-06-24 14:34
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cocksucker he sucks hardstyles's dick, just to avoid being kicked out of the team
2021-06-24 14:40
He is much more better than ss days
2021-06-24 20:44
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cuz they play in t20
2021-06-24 21:15
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Romania Pooknezeu
I didn't know that Maj3r and ngiN don't speak Turkish fluently, I knew Maj3r is also French but I thought he speaks it clearly. Where is ngiN from? Also, I don't believe that XANTARES will join w0xic's roster because that would be a risky move in terms of career and financial situation. From a low salary in Space Soldiers to a more than decent salary in BIG (I suppose so) and decent placings in events is a big jump. He might get offers from other international rosters after his contract expires!
2021-06-24 14:41
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jerman
2021-06-24 14:43
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Romania Pooknezeu
Hmm, like gob b, interesting!
2021-06-24 14:44
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United States hurbok
#BelieveInSangal #GiveUsTheSignal #PrepareTheMangal #FeedTheKangal #ThenWatchTheDangal #BelieveTheMyth #paz_top1_2021 #WOLF_IMORR_SNEAKY_ATTACK #Sangal_1_Maj3r_S1mple_and_ZywOo_0_Major #ngintheteaman #l0gicman_l0godman #S3NSEY_good_gameS3NSEY
2021-06-24 15:29
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United States hurbok
also where was ngin from
2021-06-24 15:29
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Germany
2021-06-24 20:41
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Brazil hugoooo
Nice, today I woke up thinking exactly about Sangal, you thread had great timing.
2021-06-24 20:44
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