Nah he is right boomb4 is a shit igl
tldr Richard Lewis has to shut up and wait until regular LANs return
why Richard Lewis is terrible
fixd for you
amazing how everyone is an expert watching with x-ray hahahahahaha
inside the server the story is different, this guy is another asshole who thinks he's an expert
NaVi has had the same issues since the start of 2021.
shit calling and 20s garbage strats.
Unfortunately, Richard Lewis has far more knowledge of the game than you.
he's just been in the virgin gang for a long time
I actually agree with many of his points. Navi shouldn't just settle for 2nd-best. When they have the players that they have, they should have been at Gambit's position. Simply making all playoffs, semis, finals isn't good enough. Nobody cares who came 2nd, people just care about the winners. And Navi have the same problems that they've always had.
trade s1mple for the whole gambit roster and ez era
people way over estimate the influence of an igl or a coach
just one of these threads again
Low iq statements from silver expected. s1mple said something on his stream and now this guy is crying so hard. FUCKING FAT PIG XD
who the fuck is richard lewis
NaVi problem is that without s1mple it's just another Winstrike or Forze quality team
electronic not as good as in 1-2 years ago, no more 2x30 bombs from both him and s1mple
perfecto, b1t, boomich are average player
what b1ad3 does or not is irrelevant, they don't have good enough players to be consistently top 1 in the world
only thing this clown is good at doing is arguing with 13yo's on twitter and rageblocking them
im confused... you just listed an excuse for navi... everyone has less prep time, not just navi...
i mean yeah gambit players too comfortable in that bootcamp they almost living there not really excuse for other teams tho
Why are you watching Richard Lewis?
All he does is cry
why richard lewis is terrible the end
Honestly I don't think there is a problem with Navi, they're one of the most consistent teams right now
Navi would be much better if Boombl4 brought up his individual level. He seems to lose a lot of confidence quickly in matches. Recently, he has been losing a lot of ez duels. He pushes with no success.
Navi also seem to have communication issues. Players always looking the wrong way, never expecting a flank. Free map control given every round vs Gambit in last match as well. Mirage was brutal to watch.
never mind their igl, no era before they realize executing with 15 seconds left might not be the optimal strategy. this has not only been a problem with boombla but since forever
what a terrible take. Its not like they are gonna go to a bootcamp and just have 1000 IQ strats and fix all their problems wtf?
the community will disagree with RL's and Thorin's takes for about 1 week and then they start agreeing with them.
Not true at all. Boombl4 is just awful
NAVI players have said they prefer being at home than bootcamp. lol
Longtime NAVI fan here:
I agree with many if not most of his points. There's no excuse for the lack of wins a team of this caliber has. NAVI in peak form, the same form we saw on Katowice 2020, Blast Finals in January, and to a degree in DHM, can dispose of ANY team without issues, Gambit included. So clearly, the firepower is there. The latest events also proved that Perfecto and b1t can also show up. With such a roster, while also having the best player in the world, they should be stacking the trophies.
For a team like NAVI, having a team of youngsters (plus Hobbit) come out of nowhere and win everything consistently is unacceptable. Serious props to Gambit for the magnificent job they are doing.
If NAVI doesn't bootcamp consistently, it's on them. It's no excuse.
NAVI's shortcomings always stem from the same place, their strat book, and their appalling midround calling. It's amazing, how they keep consistently having issues with time management. Those issues cost NAVI the first match vs Gambit, TWO ROUNDS IN A ROW they threw. That cost them the match and probably even the event win. That round they lost vs G2 was shameful to say the least.
I don't think their T side is the problem, I'd argue it's their CT side. They have a CT side winrate of 52.7% vs top30. And if I remove Nuke and Train from the filter, it decreases to 50.1%. Their CT winrate in each map is around 50-51% except on Nuke and Train which is 60-62%. Gambit in comparison has winrates closer to 60% and in some cases higher. Watching their games, it's very clear why. A serious lack of proactive gameplay, not making info plays, gambling sites too often.
The T side itself is not the problem, it's the mid-round calling that's the issue that also affects their CT side. They have a 52.5% T Side winrate.
If you want to see NAVI's issue, watching them play on the CT side of Inferno is probably the best way. Particularly on the B site. Most of the time barely peeking for the information just so they know when to throw the smokes, rarely aggressing, rarely taking deep banana control.
People still pay attention to what he says ?
Never had a problem with him, even respect his work as a journalist but when it comes to gameplay knowledge he is not qualified to give opinions and i don't understand how he has the audacity to open his mouth, just like his ginger sidekick.
Na’Vi bootcamp once a month, they just don’t play their officials at the bootcamp. Great points though
Richard Lewis is just a baiter. How can u take serious the guy which tells 2nd best team in the world to change roster?
they've been criticizing na'vi since s1mple joined
these diehard fans won't be satisfied unless he wins a major and has an era
also they were overhyped about many changes in the past lineups
but later they'll find another "problem" to fix
Navi will never get an era with p0mple
i think he's kinda right with their tactics being stale, but ofc they change, just a bit too slow
and yes being in a bootcamp helps but shouldn't determin results this much
edit: also this thread looks so fucked
Despite all cis mentality excuses, Navi 2010 is obvious example of what u should go through with ur team to start winning and it's cool to see gambit actually using those instructions rn, it's navi's problem they don't want to live the game, get locked on infinite bootcamp and be absolute fucking nerds. But there's no other way around and they know it. That's why I don't think s1mple is being honest when he says he wants to "win majors, dominate as a team", he wish he wanted it but he doesn't.
He is right, and beating Gambit or not won't Change ir. It's their consitent inconsciency. Every year they performa well for some months and are garbage for the remainder of the year. That is mostly do to them having no real decent tactic structure, and relying on players being on good periods.
TL;DR Bad IGL, mediocre coach, never will amount to anything
Navi really don't have any excuses to be anywhere but finals at this point.
S1mple and Electronic at their peaks are one of the deadliest duos in modern CS and they're being wasted.
Oh I see, so you're saying blade isn't capable of adapting to the current meta, I agree :). What I might need more clarification on is about bootcamps. FaZe has some bootcamps, why do they lose so much?
choosing to be strategic during the online era and not being able to be together irl is not an excuse to to play wobbly counter strike
You can't say that Gambit is currently beating everyone just because they get to bootcamp. That's ridiculous. Bootcamp = winning has never been the correct math.
Navi have won absolutely nothing big for the past idk how long and as a viewer I haven't seen much of a strat change for about the same amount time. One two inconsistent wins and that's about it. And yet according to their fans nobody is to blame, there is no fault in the team - even more ridiculous.
They can't go on like this. It's as if I'm looking at a 2nd tier team. I don't expect them to win anything and when they do it's surprise and excitement, immidiately to be followed by absolute dissapointment in their next tournament. Lowkey have always rooted for Navi, but what they're doing needs a big change. Performance-wise aside, tactics and startegy need to be scraped and remade. We've been watching the same old inconsistent strat for the past 2 years. Somebody needs to step up, take responsibility for their failures and step back from the scene. I don't mind their "positive attitude" towards losses, but that can be valid for several tournaments at most, not years on end. At this point it's not positive attitude, but rather acceptance that they won't have an era.
Another thing - just because they are putting in the effort doesn't mean it's good enough. You can bang your head against a solid wall for years on end with vigor and it still doesn't mean you are going to break through and get to the other side. How and where effort is applied matters. So simple saying that Blade is putting in a lot of effort doesn't mean jack. Why? Because they are a tier 1 team. Effort is expected, not something worth celebrating. Results are what matters and they got nothing to prove their value for the past 2 years.
Sorry I have been blocked by Richard Lewis
Navi doesn't wanna grind like Gambit. And as long as they win some tournaments there is no need to change that.
Especially Electronic and Boombl4 are guys that want to use this free time.
Navi could be better sure but to what costs.
And that is literally a decision that doesn't need to be criticize. Richard lewis sits with his fat ass at home all day long. He has no idea.
Navi won already 700k+ Prizemoney this year so they are easily the top 2 of most earning this year
He's right tho. Na'Vi have historically never been able to string event wins together in a row despite having arguably the best player in the world with a decent enough supporting team that at one point included electronic in his prime. While I'm unsure if B1ad3 and/or Boombl4 are specifically to blame for their inconsistencies, Richard is correct when he says that they shouldn't settle for 2nd best. It's not an online issue either, Na'Vi can win events without a bootcamp (see: Blast Global Finals) and were the 2nd best team of 2020 according to HLTV so that argument goes at the window. It's not an excuse to play bad CS because that is the current competitive situation.
It's also why I think Na'Vi is super overrated as a LAN team after Katowice because who knows if they would've shown the same performance in the next event? Even more so now considering LANs haven't been a thing for more than a year, so a lot of things can change. After winning BLAST and with Vitality and Astralis falling into their slumps, they should be the ones in Gambit's position right now. But somehow, they're not.
right, its gambits fault for being able to bootcamp and put in the work that navi cant have an era...
yeah because bootcamp suddenly fixes a lot of team problems and makes a team suddenly play better
these issues for navi have been since 2019
for 2 years, they have nothing but won a tournament, made people think they may start an era, and then go on and preceed to be trash
its been a never ending cycle
Where were the calls for liquid being chokers? I can't even watch his stuff anymore - outdated, overrated jebaited???
It's hard for any team to have an era when there are so many great CIS teams currently (add in heroic) - the level of the game is very high and slight fluctuations will prevent any sustainable long runs like Astralis (who did it on LAN but didn't have TRUE challengers - considering the lack of mental fortitude which was on constant display by liquid) because the margins are much smaller - it's similar to how poker has evolved. It's fantastic gambit have managed to be so consistent but will that be the case on LAN or will they have to be more careful about pick and choosing their LANs? I think that may end up being the case
You cant critique navi for not having an era because they are not the best team because this one other team is better
wtf are you even saying bro
If they are worse than a team and they want an era then obviously they need a change of some sort