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why Richard Lewis critique of navi is terrible
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Latvia adzmons 
youtube.com/watch?v=OSngGSaRaec tldr of video : "navi can't make an Era unless they change the Igl or coach and navi should be beating gambit more consistently " The first reasons why this statement I would say is false is Gambit is a team were they have thier players at a bootcamp most of the time so they can fix issue's that appear quickly and as they are in a boot camp strategies can be implemented more quickly while navi can't do a boot camps all the time because of players being from different countries and how players like S1mple and electronic have families or partners to go to which means navi are already at a disadvantage against gambit. The only time navi did a boot camp in 2021 and after it they beat gambit 3-0 at the final . Also because the online era made it so events can be played more often , teams that prefer a default style and play more on fundamentals (like gambit) thrive in the environment and can play event after event. navi meanwhile do less of this default style but more strategy based style because bl3de is thier coach. TLDR: Gambit have bootcamp most of time so they can play better and online era make more events so less time to prepare for events.
2021-06-24 21:07
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Nah he is right boomb4 is a shit igl
2021-06-24 21:09
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Serbia LtN))
-1 Boombl4 bestest IGL!
2021-06-24 21:10
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#17
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Denmark pebblez
you fan of Na'Vi but it seem like you dont want to fix Na'Vi problem so you actual fan or you not fan?
2021-06-24 21:21
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#19
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Serbia LtN))
This comment kinda sounds like copypasta language but yeah, Im NaVi fan and i say Boombl4 best!!!
2021-06-24 21:23
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#26
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Denmark pebblez
Well of course you are allowed to have wrong opinions but he is one of the reasons Natus Vincere will NEVER win a major.
2021-06-24 21:26
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#30
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Serbia LtN))
They will win Stockholm wdym))
2021-06-24 21:26
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#37
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Denmark pebblez
They won't Lol, they will probably be able to reach semi-finals unless they get an unlucky bracket, but that's it.
2021-06-24 21:29
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#172
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Croatia Pagan44
They will lol, if nothing they'll make the finals, but name me 1 team other than gambit which is more consistent than navi?
2021-06-24 22:27
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faze and losing 2-1
2021-06-24 23:30
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No no, he has a point xD
2021-06-25 07:36
#372
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Croatia Mikylm
Consistenly bad
2021-06-25 07:53
ooh, a self burn! those are rare
2021-06-25 07:57
1 reply
At this point, they have become common. Well done Brooklyn 99.
2021-06-25 08:08
G2, VP, mouz
2021-06-25 17:14
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Croatia Pagan44
nope, nope, closer but still nope
2021-06-26 00:01
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NaVi have no strats and only win if their fraggers perform, if -bit +jerry and move boombl4 to support then maybe they are decent but they need a igl
2021-06-26 05:18
#355
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Indonesia lukerey
you big talk like g2 has more chance to win major than navi. that's sad.
2021-06-25 04:00
Well since the major won`t be played in Stockholm anymore u just confirmed NaVi will never win a major
2021-06-24 21:42
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Serbia LtN))
nt
2021-06-24 22:25
Boomich is at least as good of an igl as nexa if not better
2021-06-25 04:18
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both are bad tactically but at least sexa has his moments, decent individually and was actually some kind of a carry in the start of 2020 unlike boombl4
2021-06-25 17:19
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dude boombl4 has been topfragging a LOT especially in the events where navi won + he gets those stats playing shit guns and being entry unlike others who bait and need 5k gun xd
2021-06-25 17:59
if boombl4 is a shit igl, how bad is nexa than? Navi destroyed them in katowice right? After that g2 haven't won a single tier 1 tournament if i can remember and Navi have multiple. Besides, G2 can't even beat Navi this whole year. So stfu
2021-06-24 23:15
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#301
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Denmark pebblez
Yeah nexa isn't a very good igl but we aren't talking about him Btw Mr Joe why does Na'Vi Beating G2 this year mean I can't talk about them? Really sound logic Na'Vi winning 1-2 tournaments a year because the entire team fluked and performed or because s1mple went 100% god mode and hard carried the team simply isn't good enough when you have the greatest f*cking player to ever do it.
2021-06-24 23:56
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your saying that boombl4 is a shit igl, where you get that from? He is one of the few igl's who actually win tournaments. You are talking about fluke, but navi is the most consistent team in the top 5. And in blast s1mple didn't go god mode and still they reached the finals. Your logic is dumb, no real arguments why boombl4 is a bad igl. Expected from a casual hltv user. If a team reaches finals and win tournaments its because the team performed well and that there tactic's and calling is good which you need an igl and coach for
2021-06-25 00:03
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#320
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Denmark pebblez
And how did Na'Vi get in the grand finals? Because s1mple won a monster 1v4 Btw they were on the verge of choking and going into overtime because of some very bad calls (?!??!?!?!??!) I can see you are a VALORANT player who hasn't even watched Na'Vi, as we can still see the same constant mistakes being made again and again Expected from the D*tch
2021-06-25 00:09
+1 He can’t live a day without criticizing NAVI... I think his unconscious understande that he did a wrong choise but his brain cant acept it 😂😂😂
2021-06-25 05:50
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#390
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Denmark pebblez
What are you even talking about? seriously I think you have some issues and need to get help.
2021-06-25 12:17
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this is exactly what I think about you when you trying criticize NAVI every fucking day at hltv
2021-06-25 12:33
you are in every thread, maybe try doing something other than arguing on hltv all day
2021-06-25 17:15
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Serbia CoVRa
> most consistent team in the top 5 > NaVi Pick one But ye just check his flag of course he is toxic
2021-06-25 10:23
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This is hillarious considering pebblez is a well known balkan fakeflagger, hence why he fangays G2 in every thread lol
2021-06-25 12:29
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Serbia CoVRa
nah he is not from balkan, we quarreled a lot and i dont like him. Maybe he fake flag but from balkan he is 90% not. He is pretty toxic so i see him as Danish (who are well known for toxicity)
2021-06-25 12:35
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he is 100% not danish, his english is faaaar to bad and all he does is fangaying G2, why would any dane give two shits about G2. He is balkan who is well known for being toxic and extremely nationalistic
2021-06-25 12:36
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#397
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Serbia CoVRa
There is no way he is balkan ;D "He is balkan who is well known for being toxic" HAHAHAHHahahahahah please bro i know just one guy who is toxic its g2Edogs , and why u telling me that as europe flag? Why are you scared but hate nations?
2021-06-25 12:38
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Legit every balkan has a G2 flair and acts toxic AF, especially when G2 plays. The only group more toxic is ukranian navi fans LMFAO
2021-06-25 12:39
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Serbia CoVRa
Bro thats happening with every team, you are one way minded There is no way, because we quarreled a lot in past and he would write me message in our native so there is no way. Danish are toxic because of Astralis era like Russians and Navi, you can ask anyone on faceit and everything danes are very very toxic
2021-06-25 12:42
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Bro i know he isnt danish, that's for sure. Why would he expose himself to you as a fakeflagger just cause u talked on the forums? Danes are far less toxic than most groups on here, there is barely any danes on these forums lol. The finns were extremely toxic during the small time where ENCE was relevant. Americans were obnoxious AF when liquid could actually win stuff and the brazilians...... But Balkan G2 and NiKo fans are up there, that's for sure, only less toxic currently on HLTV than ukranian/russian NaVi fans
2021-06-25 12:43
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#401
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Serbia CoVRa
Thats what i said for every team, now g2 is to5 team and conteders for trophies, faze fans would be toxic if they start winning, and danes are so toxic on hltv and especially on faceit and esea, everytime i play with dane he is so fucking toxic. You must agree with it, and you can ask anyone. Well, unless you are Dane
2021-06-25 12:45
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Nah i don't agree, maybe this is ur experience but as far as HLTV i barely see any lol. I can only imagine how shit HLTV would be if any of the other groups had won like Astralis did. As far as faceit the british and turks are worst for me.
2021-06-25 12:46
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Denmark pebblez
+1, gosh darn it, you caught me! I am actually a Serbian fake-flagger #SerbianWorldEmpire, Kosovo is Serbia! #WorldIsYugoslavia
2021-06-25 13:01
Other IGLs don't have s1mple in their team
2021-06-25 12:46
I love Na'Vi but always playing around your star player is a hit and miss strategy instead of utilising all of Na'Vi as a unit. The only reason the current strategy works is because the star player in question is s1mple but that requires him to have a great game. I think boombl4 is an underappreciated IGL but could definitely be better given the star power of Na'Vi. Furthermore, Blad3's calling is usually easy to call from the other team. Na'Vi have really bad T-sides, so hopefully it can be worked on. EDIT: General corrections.
2021-06-24 22:32
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NAVI is honestly a really disfunctional team if they really want to establish an era for themselves They desperately need proper leadership. Before CT-side got mega nerfed navi's t-side where absolutely horrible. Now they are more like moderately terrible. Blade is not a good coach and i am stunned that he hasn't been removed yet. I don't think boombl4 is the problem, i just think they need a proper coach. Like a russian/ukranian Zonic.
2021-06-25 02:59
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Yeah, a fair critique indeed, friend. :)
2021-06-25 03:23
+1 my friend, boombl4 very strong
2021-06-25 03:41
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Latvia adzmons
I agree with that but he just goes at bl3de for no reason at all. If S1mple calls him a great igl then I think he has to be good enough for navi
2021-06-24 21:11
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Yeah blad3 is decent I guess, but the moment he is not able to call for them like on rmr and stuff they go worse
2021-06-24 21:15
mate have you seen the NaVi T sides? ofc s1mple wont attack his own coach, but they are horrible.
2021-06-24 21:15
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Yes in thier most recent tournaments they won most of thier halfs on the t side, the only time when thier t side look bad was against gambit but they flopped on the ct side so thier T side wouldn't save them.
2021-06-24 21:19
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+1 xd
2021-06-24 21:24
them shooting the other side in the head is not good tside. they have crap tsides and if they didnt have the firepower covering up those tside then they would get like 20% of tside rounds. no pro or analyist every says boom4ch is a good IGL. if they had a good tside and IGL then they would be winning events with s1mple playing like a god.
2021-06-24 21:27
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yes but in blast spring s1mple wasn't playing well except for 1 really good clutch against G2. edit: He did one of his worse statlines in a tournament and they still made it in runner up. if he played well then they could have beat gambit. it has gotten to the point where its the individuals that need to perform with the navi vs gambit.
2021-06-24 21:32
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And they should of lost vs g2, threw dust 2 vs gambit on tisde with crap Tside time management as usual. played crap vs gambit in final. Do they need s1mple to be playing like a god to win events or should they just have a good IGL so when s1mple doesnt have a god level preformance they can still win.
2021-06-24 21:34
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Yes they dont do well against the top1 and top 3 teams of the world although they beat G2 with struggle . Also If you genuinely think a team could beat gambit if thier best player wasn't performing . Then you would need a team with lots of good individuals like G2 or you're delusional .
2021-06-24 21:44
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United Kingdom OllieUK
Lets be real. S1mple can make anyone look good as an IGL. Its the same reason Apex has been regarded as a decent IGL with Vitality. Having a super hard carry makes it look like youre doing alot more
2021-06-24 21:56
hltv.org/stats/teams/ftu?startDate=2021-.. 53% RW this year. Gambit has 55%. OMG SO BAD. JUST FFS STOP TALKING BS. NAVI LOSES MOST OF THE GAMES ON CT SIDE NOT ON T SIDE. They can upgrade b1t but not Blad3/Boombl4.
2021-06-24 21:24
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Of course they can improve boombl4 +jerry
2021-06-24 21:24
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Only upgarde is nafany. And thats why I said no upgrade cause only nafany is better than boombl4. Jerry t3 player
2021-06-24 21:25
gambit is nowhere close to firepower na'vi has, the difference is na'vi wins t side with good aimers and gambit tactically
2021-06-24 22:39
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Nah, judging by stats sh1ro axile and hobbit are worse than s1mple but better than current electronic, perfecto and b1t are around same stats as interz/nafany and boomich is slightly worse. Sure gambits stats are inflated by winning alot more rounds than navi but individual consistency of these guys speak for themselves, although Navi might have higher peak when they play their A game.
2021-06-24 23:40
+1
2021-06-24 22:00
+1
2021-06-25 03:22
-1 -1 -1 Boombl4 best IGL
2021-06-25 03:57
#387
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Australia B_Tannen
b1ad3 is the main element to change first.
2021-06-25 12:16
tldr Richard Lewis has to shut up and wait until regular LANs return
2021-06-24 21:09
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Serbia LtN))
+1
2021-06-24 21:11
Lol what is gonna change in LANs? They gonna win one tournament in 6 months and immediately bomb in next 2 tourneys.
2021-06-24 22:24
maybe NaVi will be the best with regular LANs, but that doesn't mean his current critique is wrong.
2021-06-25 03:23
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Italy NotNew
why Richard Lewis is terrible fixd for you
2021-06-24 21:12
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Europe dioio
Richard Lewis is terrible fixd for you
2021-06-24 21:34
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Richard Lewis is beautiful Fixed for you
2021-06-24 22:33
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Richard Lewis is fat fixd for you
2021-06-24 23:34
2 replies
untrue.
2021-06-25 03:23
-1
2021-06-25 07:39
amazing how everyone is an expert watching with x-ray hahahahahaha inside the server the story is different, this guy is another asshole who thinks he's an expert
2021-06-24 21:12
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#272
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Mexico Rxvxrs
this is literally his job, he is an expert
2021-06-24 23:17
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#369
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India nadeeeee
+1
2021-06-25 07:27
not really, he was rarely if ever in the analyst role at events, he was the host
2021-06-25 11:59
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Mexico Rxvxrs
yes, but he he is much more experienced, and knowledgeable about the game than the vast majority of the CSGO fanbase, and he def has understanding of the game as he has been focused on it so long
2021-06-25 21:59
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yeah he is def better than the average fan
2021-06-25 22:00
NaVi has had the same issues since the start of 2021. shit calling and 20s garbage strats.
2021-06-24 21:15
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Although starting with the addition of perfecto they never reached out the top 8 and also they were consistent top 5 team for most of 2020 and 2021?
2021-06-24 21:16
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yes but when you have prime s1mple you should be winning the fucking tournaments not making the same mistakes 6 months in and wasting the goat's time. I mean flamie said at some point fucking electronic was igl? Blad3 has completely failed
2021-06-24 21:17
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Yes they used electronic as igl but if you watched the video that would confirm what Richard wanted an igl that had the personality and confidence that and igl of navi's caliber would want. Also If you say blad3 failed then explain the runner up positions and wins navi have? if you say that they should of won then you could say that they should of won against astralis in 2018 in that major. but they didn't because they were facing an era tier team. Gambit is an era level team because of the amount of events because of the online era and how they are on boot camp all the time so they could go over mistakes while navi doesn't have those resources because of covid.
2021-06-24 21:24
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they didnt win in 2018 because edward and zeus were playing for pay checks and werent the verteran leaders they should have been (read the edward hltv interview). Also you say gambit is an era level team? NaVi should have been that fucking team. You can make excuses as such for NaVi as this garbage bootcamp shit, but clearly they are held back by a poor igl and a coach who gameplans as if its fucking flipsid3 2017. Right now when you have s1mple and 3 other talented players you should be winning every tournament and getting at minimum top4/finals. blad3 has failed to give this team the right strats. I mean 20s dogshit + against G2 it took s1mple 1v4 to save their asses. hltv.org/ranking/teams/2021/june/21/deta.. Look at these placings. 5th place, 9-12th, 5-6th this is a fucking joke.
2021-06-24 21:45
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Ok the esl one cologne is a terrible placing I agree . The 5th in epic league I say . If Akuma does terribly in the starladder qualifier they did something suspicious . esl pro league they lost to complexity and also they were in a boot camp so they weren't playing to win but playing to improve on mistakes . the 5th - 6th in katowice can be explained due to Gambit starting thier dominant streak . Also I wouldn't call electronic currently talented as he used to be , Boombl4 is the igl , B1t is a rookie so he wont perform well and Perfecto is the only player I would say Is carrying his weight along with s1mple on the team.
2021-06-24 21:53
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I mean now you are just making 100 excuses for NaVi. The only change was b1t and he is an upgrade on flamie who was a complete bot that outstayed his welcome due to the failure of I would assume blad3. Similarly, s1mple has said that blad3 has done a lot of the calling and us such this clearly means even after a whole year boombi4 is still bad at his role I mean why is he still in the team? Replace him with a real igl even if they are a worse fragger or do something to amend these issues. btw boot camps arent magic spells.
2021-06-24 21:55
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Yes but bootcamps do improve on a team alot. For example teams like complexity do better together because they are more of a social team and with navi as s1mple said you can see if a person genuinely doesn't have a clue on what he's doing so mistakes can be fixed more easily. They aren't a magic spell but they make everything 10 times easier because its easier to know what the person means in person. Its like a doctor , its easier to diagnose the problem the patient has in person because you can see how they react. while in an online call you can't see everything.
2021-06-24 21:58
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well for coL's case the bootcamp helps way more because people like RUSH and jks finally have a home in a sense unlike where all navi players are living in their homes and comfortable. ALSO, coL has made tactical changes clearly enabling jks more and blame not baiting as much. NaVi have still kept these weird T side that against strong teams completely fall apart. Rather than play like 2017 F3 they should be playing more loose with the fire power they have.
2021-06-24 22:00
Gambit is nowhere near Astralis 2018 lvl, RL is right, NaVi should be the best team atm. I would even say they should have been the best team for over a year straight, since Katowice.
2021-06-25 03:28
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yes but they are rumored to do 12 hour prac days , if a team are rumoured to do that they are definitely gonna be one of the best, and although gambit dont have brand names like s1mple they have Hobbit (most decorated Kazakhstani player of cs) and then 4 youngsters who I would say are extremely talented and the 4 youngsters bootcamp nearly every day . They are in a position to be the Astralis of the online era
2021-06-25 09:41
ZywOo got top1 twice in last 2 years. 0 Finals so far in 2021. Stop doing low IQ comments. You can not carry alone in this era. When everyone has 5 guys who can do superstar performances. And Gambit has those players. You can not solo carry anymore. Teams can just avoid you. And stop saying bs. You dont understand cs at all. And s1mple literally won a tournament last month.
2021-06-24 21:32
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well my point isnt to solo carry you seemingly cannot read. you have s1mple + electronic who is back in form and still for some reason play this shitty 20s tactics that throw rounds when you play a competent team. you need 1v4 bailouts against fucking G2 to narrowly beat them. blad3 has completely failed. Zywoo's problems are completely seperate from s1mple.
2021-06-24 21:41
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" yes but when you have prime s1mple you should be winning the fucking tournaments not making the same mistakes 6 months in and wasting the goat's time." " well my point isnt to solo carry you seemingly cannot read. you have s1mple + electronic who is back in form and still for some reason play this shitty 20s tactics that throw rounds when you play a competent team. you need 1v4 bailouts against fucking G2 to narrowly beat them. blad3 has completely failed." nice iq hltv.org/stats/players/8918/electronic?s.. OMG ELECTRONIC IS IN BEAST FORM; I HOPE HE DOESNT BREAK ANY RECORD with HIS 1.07 RATING. OMG TOP1 god is back. hltv.org/stats/teams/players/6651/gambit.. AND NOT LIKE GAMBIT has 3 players with fucking 1.20+ rating. 20S tactics? I showed you their t stats kids, you didnt reply there. Low iq to understand? OMG HOW IS A CLUTCH POSSIBLE; NEVER HAPPENED EVER BEFORE. WTF IS THIS. And wtf do you want blad3 to do when navi is losing 2v5 FUCKING 2VS5s. lol theres no tactic retard. BLAD3 has completely failed? Did he fail your mom or what do you mean?? Zywoo's problems are completely seperate from s1mple. ARE YOU RETARD OR WHAT? "yes but when you have prime s1mple you should be winning the fucking tournaments not making the same mistakes 6 months in and wasting the goat's time." this what you said. l2r.
2021-06-24 21:48
s1mple proves you wrong, at every chance. Zyw0o is nowhere near his lvl, we are truly blessed, to see a prodigy like him perform. He was robbed in2020 and he would have gotten it in 2019 as well, if he didn't give the AWP to guardian. You can go on pretending zyw0o is as good as him, but he truly isn't! s1mple is the best of all time and he stands above any ranking some fucking serb gives to CSGO players yearly. He si a god among men, when it comes to this game.
2021-06-25 03:33
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I love s1mple and respect him alot. But ZywOo > s1mple anyday. I wish he was not this good. But he is insane. Even I can be like s1mple in some years if I try. But I can never be like ZywOo, hes that good.
2021-06-25 17:05
Shit calling doesn't matter when players like s1mple and electronic can control the game.
2021-06-24 21:18
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If electronic would have been a 1.20+ rated top rifler like back in 2018, then perhaps yes. But as of now, Ax1le is doing what Electronic was supposed to be doing, and electronic is barely even Top20.
2021-06-24 21:24
4 replies
Yes and what should blad3 and boombl4 do? They should make electronic play DM or what?
2021-06-24 21:28
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xD s1mple mentioned after DHM that electronic had to go through a lot in this covid era, with his baby and all, and so there might also be a lack of motivation. I hope we return to LANs soon, since that would pump everyone up.
2021-06-24 21:32
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yes but blad3 can not motivate electronic. Blad3 is not gonna offer electronic a BJ if electronic gets 1.2 rating. Electronic is gonna play however he wants. This is just low iq moments by this guys, 0 understanding of cs and 100% salt.
2021-06-24 21:40
thank u for putting a very sensible comment :)))))
2021-06-25 03:00
although they were out of the top 10 for most of 2019 and when blade came in at late 2019 then they started going in the top 10?
2021-06-24 21:26
b1ad3 tactics are made up for by having s1mple and electronic and honestly navi have so much natural talent but they can't get it together and OP's excuses were kinda just 'gambit playstyle is good for current era and bootcamp 24/7". Why can't navi try and adapt themselves cause clearly what they are doing is not working. If navi played their cards differently they could have been gambit. Also time management is still awful by navi even after a year of this being a problem.
2021-06-24 21:26
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Whats not working? They only lose to gambit consistently. Else they can beat any team in the world right now.
2021-06-24 21:29
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we are talking about building an era so thats why cause they are not as consistent EX: Fnatic 2016 / Astralis 2018-2019. In their current form they will have been good but will never be the best and will be forgotten about because all people will remember is that gambit were insanely good.
2021-06-24 21:33
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so you think they are not trying or what? And stop with this cringe shit about will be forgotten or not. Literally nobody fucking cares. CS is not getting 1 billion views. Its not even getting 500k viewers on t1 tournament right now. Who remembers Pronax won 3 majors? Thorin and Richard are 2 clowns.
2021-06-24 21:37
s1mple and electronic left alone will play fpl style even B1ad3 said this and fuck the whole game up. We are not in 2008 anymore where just “fragging our” is a viable strategy. Teams like Gambit and heroic will eat you up and read you like a book. s1mple and electronic break their system but if you have no system to then dominate afterwards and exploit their flaws with your players you will fail
2021-06-24 23:37
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Exactly the problem, s1mple and elec can frag out against lots of teams but against the best of the best they wont win without better calling.
2021-06-25 08:18
#257
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Sweden suriel666
bullshit
2021-06-24 22:53
2 replies
have you seen NaVi games and the awful t side against good opponents? have you seen how boombI4 has barely evolved and that Blad3 has been doing allt he calling?
2021-06-24 22:54
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Sweden suriel666
2021-06-29 10:54
+1 always the same cycle Navi is shit and everyone calls them shit Navi wins one tournament and everyone calls them the greatest of all time Navi becomes shit again and everyone calls them shit Navi wins one tournament and everyone calls them the greatest of all time again Then Repeat the cycle 50 times I’ve seen this happen so many times and people still always think it’s going to be different
2021-06-24 23:24
2 replies
yeah people keep forgetting about the past and that the same mistakes are repeated. ofc sometimes you dont see those mistakes being s1mple electronic + 1 are just fragging out, but when NaVi are facing the third man shitshow the flaws are clear as day
2021-06-24 23:26
1 reply
+1
2021-06-25 17:26
Unfortunately, Richard Lewis has far more knowledge of the game than you.
2021-06-24 21:16
16 replies
yes he has more knowledge but if he really has more knowledge why does s1mple call his one of the best coaches of all time. why would one of the goats of cs call Blad3 one of the greatest coaches?
2021-06-24 21:27
13 replies
what other coaches has he worked with?
2021-06-24 22:23
10 replies
liquid ,kane , starix and andi
2021-06-24 22:36
9 replies
peace maker
2021-06-24 22:37
8 replies
lmbt
2021-06-24 22:38
7 replies
liquid - gbjames whos never done anything as coach and never even got a job coaching after liquid kane - literally just zeus' friend starix - fair enough andi - done fuck all peacemaker - meme coach + when? lmbt - when? also i doubt he'd call his coach shit while hes still on the team
2021-06-24 22:49
6 replies
peace maker in liquid when simple was about to leave lmbt as s1mple stint in hell raisers.
2021-06-24 23:12
4 replies
Oh so both for like 5 minutes and not long enough to have any actual impact?
2021-06-24 23:26
3 replies
yes but s1mple has been with enough coaches to make a decision like this to say Blad3 is one of the best coaches in the world because of reason X it doesn't matter that those 2 coaches where there for long because simple is one of the greatest of all time and he can make a choice and if navi was such a big problem for him he would have never resigned that contract. him resigning that contract shows his faith in navi.
2021-06-24 23:28
2 replies
Ever thought that maybe B1ad3 is a good coach but not the right one for Navi? It is not like fifa where you put in a coach and they have a fixed impact, each coach is different, some coaches are better psychologically and worse tactically, vice versa as well. Richard said that B1ad3 was a bad coach for Navi and that he saw him doing better in other places. Imo if Navi got someone like Zews and they were willing to speak English they could fucking dominate
2021-06-24 23:32
1 reply
yes I agree that blade does suffer from the issues were his strategies rely on having not the best players so he can upset teams but he is making navi just as decent as it always was and no one said NAVI BAD NAVI bad in 2018 or at least not as much.
2021-06-24 23:35
yes but when he defends blad3 and what blad3 did to develop talents and help navi get large tournaments like global finals and katowice , that has to do something
2021-06-24 23:22
Well typically I don't see players calling their coaches shit when their still on the same team.
2021-06-24 22:40
1 reply
+1 bruh does he think he’s just about to roast him or something live?
2021-06-24 23:27
#200
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United Kingdom h4m
+1
2021-06-24 22:36
Love the 30 min videos of Richard Lewis talking about the most obvious shit that anyone who follows the scene should already know. Yeah, what a genius Guess all of his viewers are casuals from Reddit
2021-06-25 05:30
he's just been in the virgin gang for a long time
2021-06-24 21:21
I actually agree with many of his points. Navi shouldn't just settle for 2nd-best. When they have the players that they have, they should have been at Gambit's position. Simply making all playoffs, semis, finals isn't good enough. Nobody cares who came 2nd, people just care about the winners. And Navi have the same problems that they've always had.
2021-06-24 21:22
1 reply
I agree with his points but he says blad3 is the problem although I would arguably say navi has done more with this roster than any other navi roster in history.
2021-06-24 21:25
trade s1mple for the whole gambit roster and ez era
2021-06-24 21:25
#35
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Lebanon Dogman69
people way over estimate the influence of an igl or a coach just one of these threads again
2021-06-24 21:28
4 replies
ok please explain how then with the addition of blade and after a couple of months after they never reached bellow top 8 and were consistently in top 5?
2021-06-24 21:35
3 replies
They went last in Cologne last year. But just stop promoting this clowns on Hltv
2021-06-24 21:38
#49
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Lebanon Dogman69
they were always top 8, they had big fail with Guardian awping instead of s1mple, so it was ez to climb the rankings when Guardian was benched
2021-06-24 21:40
#266
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Spain ez25
the addition of Blade also means the addition of Boombl4 and Perfecto, why do you say it is because of Blade? And just because a roster change correlates with better results it doesnt mean the roster change was the reason for it
2021-06-24 23:03
oh my
2021-06-24 21:33
Low iq statements from silver expected. s1mple said something on his stream and now this guy is crying so hard. FUCKING FAT PIG XD
2021-06-24 21:39
2 replies
This is sad, you spammed everywhere on this thread Im not that religious but this one time I pray to god you get back your sanity
2021-06-24 22:35
1 reply
+1 Someone ask Allah to give this guy a bit of help
2021-06-24 23:38
No Zeus No Major
2021-06-24 21:42
#54
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Brazil Fan_do_Trk
who the fuck is richard lewis
2021-06-24 21:43
3 replies
He is Bri'ish man
2021-06-24 21:45
GOAT esports journalist also sometimes referred to as “esports Jesus”
2021-06-24 23:39
He's a great guy. He was very creative in Curb Your Enthusiasm, too bad he has back problems and won't continue. Then there's also some toxic CS:GO journalist that likes the sound of his own voice
2021-06-25 05:32
#55
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Lebanon Dogman69
NaVi problem is that without s1mple it's just another Winstrike or Forze quality team electronic not as good as in 1-2 years ago, no more 2x30 bombs from both him and s1mple perfecto, b1t, boomich are average player what b1ad3 does or not is irrelevant, they don't have good enough players to be consistently top 1 in the world
2021-06-24 21:43
4 replies
#60
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Russia ToughGuy
that's a nice opinion for someone with your name
2021-06-24 21:45
1 reply
#66
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Lebanon Dogman69
thank you
2021-06-24 21:48
lmao so astralis and gambit should never be that good, if you think na'vi doesn't have good enough players xD
2021-06-24 22:44
1 reply
#249
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Lebanon Dogman69
they have s1mple who has free role and would probably refuse to play boring cs, so this style won't work in current NaVi
2021-06-24 22:50
#57
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Russia scorchy
only thing this clown is good at doing is arguing with 13yo's on twitter and rageblocking them
2021-06-24 21:45
im confused... you just listed an excuse for navi... everyone has less prep time, not just navi...
2021-06-24 21:47
4 replies
Yes navi is runner up but against gambit where they are bassicaly playing bootcamp 24/7 so they can fix mistakes in person which is more effective and also gambit relay more on defaults so thier strat book isn't as complex.
2021-06-24 21:56
3 replies
these are not excuses for navi... blade himself said that boot camp isnt even that important, consistency is more important (watch hltv confirmed with him)
2021-06-24 22:01
2 replies
yes I agree but bootcamps are a way to reach that consistency. its like saying to an athlete going over what's wrong isn't important , being the best in that sport for one day is important.
2021-06-24 22:02
1 reply
go watch it and come back... his point is that online or bootcamp, doesnt matter as long as its consistent, and still its a weak excuse that doesnt even work...
2021-06-24 22:05
lol who?
2021-06-24 21:48
gold nova opinion rofl
2021-06-24 21:48
keep crying, he's right.
2021-06-24 21:48
1 reply
#177
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United States EaZy113
+10000
2021-06-24 22:28
#68
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Russia ToughGuy
i mean yeah gambit players too comfortable in that bootcamp they almost living there not really excuse for other teams tho
2021-06-24 21:48
Why are you watching Richard Lewis? All he does is cry
2021-06-24 21:56
1 reply
I was watching dextero and it auto played so I listened and he made a terrible point.
2021-06-24 21:59
why richard lewis is terrible the end
2021-06-24 22:00
Honestly I don't think there is a problem with Navi, they're one of the most consistent teams right now
2021-06-24 22:08
3 replies
I don't understand what people in this thread want from NaVi. Do they really think NaVi should 16-0 every team every fkin map? These kids have no idea how competitive CS:GO works.
2021-06-24 23:49
2 replies
#350
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United States EasyPete
No, at least I think the team with the GOAT of csgo should win more than two tournaments a year
2021-06-25 03:38
I think what the scene wants is for Na'Vi to cement their placing as the number1 team, especially since the top10 is so incredibly inconsistent. Just about everyone already know that their peak level is incredibly high, but we only see it in short glimpses. Maybe we will see a Na'Vi era when LANs come back.. maybe we will never see it. I'm just surprised that this current lineup has worked at all and not seen stategic changes yet.
2021-06-25 05:39
-boombl4 +sdy
2021-06-24 22:10
#132
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Austria Grundz
Navi would be much better if Boombl4 brought up his individual level. He seems to lose a lot of confidence quickly in matches. Recently, he has been losing a lot of ez duels. He pushes with no success. Navi also seem to have communication issues. Players always looking the wrong way, never expecting a flank. Free map control given every round vs Gambit in last match as well. Mirage was brutal to watch.
2021-06-24 22:14
2 replies
I agree with this.
2021-06-24 22:18
Yet another way their coach is lacking. A coach should be fixing communication issues and yet people duck ride him constantly because she has fancy tactics. Good fundamentals will get you miles further than having cool strats and a shit igl
2021-06-24 23:51
never mind their igl, no era before they realize executing with 15 seconds left might not be the optimal strategy. this has not only been a problem with boombla but since forever
2021-06-24 22:24
2 replies
"might not be optimal" XDDD
2021-06-24 22:41
yes
2021-06-24 23:19
#174
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United States EaZy113
what a terrible take. Its not like they are gonna go to a bootcamp and just have 1000 IQ strats and fix all their problems wtf?
2021-06-24 22:27
1 reply
yeah op is dumb. they fuck up the same stuff so often over and over again lol
2021-06-24 22:37
the community will disagree with RL's and Thorin's takes for about 1 week and then they start agreeing with them.
2021-06-24 22:33
Not true at all. Boombl4 is just awful
2021-06-24 22:37
1 reply
yes he isn't the best igl but my problem with richard lewis is his complaints about blade as a coach.
2021-06-24 23:23
#224
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United States PP_Bizon
NAVI players have said they prefer being at home than bootcamp. lol
2021-06-24 22:43
#235
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Argentina atriX^
Longtime NAVI fan here: I agree with many if not most of his points. There's no excuse for the lack of wins a team of this caliber has. NAVI in peak form, the same form we saw on Katowice 2020, Blast Finals in January, and to a degree in DHM, can dispose of ANY team without issues, Gambit included. So clearly, the firepower is there. The latest events also proved that Perfecto and b1t can also show up. With such a roster, while also having the best player in the world, they should be stacking the trophies. For a team like NAVI, having a team of youngsters (plus Hobbit) come out of nowhere and win everything consistently is unacceptable. Serious props to Gambit for the magnificent job they are doing. If NAVI doesn't bootcamp consistently, it's on them. It's no excuse. NAVI's shortcomings always stem from the same place, their strat book, and their appalling midround calling. It's amazing, how they keep consistently having issues with time management. Those issues cost NAVI the first match vs Gambit, TWO ROUNDS IN A ROW they threw. That cost them the match and probably even the event win. That round they lost vs G2 was shameful to say the least. I don't think their T side is the problem, I'd argue it's their CT side. They have a CT side winrate of 52.7% vs top30. And if I remove Nuke and Train from the filter, it decreases to 50.1%. Their CT winrate in each map is around 50-51% except on Nuke and Train which is 60-62%. Gambit in comparison has winrates closer to 60% and in some cases higher. Watching their games, it's very clear why. A serious lack of proactive gameplay, not making info plays, gambling sites too often. The T side itself is not the problem, it's the mid-round calling that's the issue that also affects their CT side. They have a 52.5% T Side winrate. If you want to see NAVI's issue, watching them play on the CT side of Inferno is probably the best way. Particularly on the B site. Most of the time barely peeking for the information just so they know when to throw the smokes, rarely aggressing, rarely taking deep banana control.
2021-06-24 22:45
People still pay attention to what he says ?
2021-06-24 22:51
Never had a problem with him, even respect his work as a journalist but when it comes to gameplay knowledge he is not qualified to give opinions and i don't understand how he has the audacity to open his mouth, just like his ginger sidekick.
2021-06-24 23:02
24 replies
Neither is a sidekick to each other they are 2 completely separate people I’m not sure if you knew. Richard has been in CS for 15+ years and people still think he’s a newbie. Do you not realise the shit you pick up on after watching every single great CS team and sometimes even analysing and casting them gives you a better perspective? You pick up on things nobody else does because you’ve seen it all before unlike the faceit lvl 8 on hltv who thinks he is more of an authority because she can shoot heads quicker. And if Richard and Thorin are so unreliably wrong why do their opinions consistently stump every idiot that hates them because they cannot fathom that they could be right and argue in circles for hours while not getting anywhere.
2021-06-24 23:46
23 replies
I dont hate thier opinion but some of the notes they make are terrible for example they would shit talk instead of noting how gambit could be so consitent instead they say the runner up team that beat them last tournament is trash and need to change roster because they have a good player
2021-06-24 23:50
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2nd for a team with s1mple and electronic is simply unacceptable. I think you forgot how unbelievable it is that we have two of the greatest players of all time on a team and that they are coming 2nd to a bunch of CIS kids. Yes Gambit are good and they deserve respect but not from Navi who should be stomping them.
2021-06-24 23:55
16 replies
#297 and #298 , yes they might be historic names but pure determination and long training session will beat any team.
2021-06-24 23:56
11 replies
Why are Navi not doing the same then? And how do you know?
2021-06-24 23:59
10 replies
Hltv confirmed valde episode he said that gambit has 12 hour work days.
2021-06-25 00:00
8 replies
Why are Navi not doing the same?
2021-06-25 00:07
7 replies
Because diffrent time zones so its diffcult for them to get a solid pracc time line and also for gambit why do you think the 4 youngsters are always at boot camp and not hobbit? , navi players like elec and s1mple actually have a life outside of counterstrike and also these guys were youngsters a year ago this means they are young and full of life. you're now saying to a father why dont you ignore your family to make a csgo era
2021-06-25 00:10
6 replies
Yes? Your job has commitments you cannot have your cake and eat it as the saying goes. If you want to be an elite counterstrike player you become the best in the world and give your all. If not then there are 100 fuckers more hungry to take your place especially in the CIS region. Greatness is not achieved with a great social life and amazing mental health. It just doesn’t work that way, go ask astralis if you’re not sure about that. You have to sacrifice in order to become great just like Gambit now.
2021-06-25 00:16
5 replies
and with that logic why do you think navi are 2nd best in the world? they aren't bad they just have situations that complicate because of the online era.
2021-06-25 00:17
4 replies
Dude can you actually take backseat and look into Richard's opinion. He's saying they are shit because he wants to them to do better. It's the expectations of Navi that you are forgetting. BTW Navi at Peak form are a better then Gambit. S1mple should be winning tournaments left and right but's hes held down by shit leadership. Boombl4 is not a good IGL hes just a decent player with Blad3 playbook which is outdated as shit. I remember him saying in 2019. "All you need to make Navi the era establishing team is get a decent igl, a medicore rifler done" They won the last lan because they got Perfecto and Boombl4 somewhat IGLing If you guys have to justify a second place finish for Navi, Bro that's pretty bad
2021-06-25 02:15
3 replies
yes but again you're facing against a team with great individuals all around who probably practice thier cs ability everyday and have been rumoured to do 12 hour pracc days. Navi dont have the players who have the time to do 12 hour pracc days. Hobbit isn't at the boot camp because he has a life outside of counterstrike but 4 of them do and for navi , s1mple has a life outside and electronic along with perfecto. There is no reason for them to be able to beat gambit in consistency because gambit are only giving them selves 12 hours of free time which lets say 8 hours for sleep , only 4 hours of free time which for some people isn't enough as they work out , they have girlfriend they need to satifiy and have friends to chill with.
2021-06-25 09:45
2 replies
Okay the excuse of "They have a life outside so and Gambit dedicated to the game more", isnt part of the arguement. You are not reading into the opinions of what we are saying. It doesn't matter whether or not they practice more or less. Bro everyone has a life outside of CS, what are you on about that's no excuse and this includes Gambit What matters now is the expectations of Navi as a team. Again on paper Navi is supposed to beat Gambit when both teams are at Peak forms. What we are saying is that it's unacceptable for Navi to be just number 2 when they should be number one. Some people don't want S1mple to waste his peak years on shit like this, WHEN HE SHOULD BE WINNING TOURNAMENTS LEFT AND RIGHT. That includes me.
2021-06-25 13:05
1 reply
yes but navi isn't consistent like gambit because they dont have the same practice which means comparing navi to gambit isn't possible and navi's being playing thier greatest counter strike because s1mple did one of his worst tournaments in 2020-2021 and still got in the finals against top 1 gambit where they finally had sh1ro perform.
2021-06-25 14:45
hltv confimired valde epsoide and 1:34:32
2021-06-25 00:05
You're also forgeting that they have a guy who made 3 upsets to reach the playoffs of a major and then they were forgotten until navi got them, then they have a supporty player from and cis team that did ok in the 2019 major and finally they have a kid from the academy roster.
2021-06-24 23:58
2 replies
I never said that was good but that is sort of the problem. If a player is too bad you change them, why are Navi not applying that and being stubborn? Yes they can’t buy every player in CIS for several reasons but there has to be more and especially for a team like them with money to spend
2021-06-25 00:01
1 reply
because booml4 is an igl and they won games with him so he's make them think he ok . perfecto also is quite good so he's safe but the 5 man is the largest complication for navi as if they either got a god like igl who worked great with blade they could get that era but it comes down to the 5th man.
2021-06-25 00:04
#357
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Indonesia lukerey
"2nd for a team with s1mple and electronic is simply unacceptable" why? s1mple is playing AWP, a lot of team can work how to shut it down, electronic never been a same player like he was 2-3 years ago. also even if s1mple & electronic having a good performances like they did back in 2018, they still come 2nd to a team with more consistent players & more hard work and dedication like astralis, now its gambit. u can have 2-3 top 10 players in ur team, but its never work against an actual GREAT TEAM. its already proven.
2021-06-25 04:17
You will never be able to analyze the game properly having not played it at any competitive level. Just like most of this community, the difference is we don't have large followings and we don't get hired to do analysis like some do. The irony is that there are people on these forums who have played at semi-pro level and are still more knowledgeable than rlewis and thorin. That is the truth and nothing that fanboys say will change that fact. And none of their opinions have stumped anyone (and i don't hate them). If you are amazed by their level of knowledge and go for them for ingame insight, than that shows how much you know about the game and that's your problem. There's a reason 99% of sport pundits are former players.
2021-06-25 00:01
4 replies
Have you ever thought that the skill set you get from being Richard Lewis different to one of a lvl 10 player? Maybe Richard isn’t the greatest hardcore tactical analyst, he never said he was either. But he spots trends and has a vast knowledge of events and circumstances to compare things to. That is why he is a pundit not desk analyst. And yes he won’t get very small things a high level player can but why is that important? Why does it matter if a high level player can point out some nuanced detail he can’t? How does that change the talking point whatsoever?
2021-06-25 00:06
3 replies
Why does that matter? Because it is the nuanced details which matter at a HIGH LEVEL. Most t1(even t2) pros have good aim and good fundamentals, it is the nuances which differ teams and win rounds/matches. That is the job of analyst, to analyze. Anyone can "spot trends and have a vast knowledge of events" if you watch the sport long enough, that doesn't make you an expert on it nor does it make your opinion right. And btw i guarantee you most level 10's (especially high elo ones) have 100x the game knowledge RLewis and Thorin have. But just like RLewis and Thorin are completely out of depth when it comes to pro cs, your average level 10 is just as out of depth when it comes to pro team based cs as them. There are levels to this and just because you have build a following doesn't make your opinion credible, so it is understandable when s1mple calls thorin an idiot because from s1mple's pov thorin (and rlewis) has no idea wtf is happening in the team and gives uninformed takes.
2021-06-25 00:19
2 replies
Well first of all if Thorin and RL are so out of their depth what outrageous and terribly wrong things have they said? Surely a gold nova like them should have the same level of knowledge right and predict all the things they have? Pro cs players have a shockingly shallow level of fundamentals sometimes. Communication, basic team work and a good attitude as well is not easy for many of them because they have been kids sat in front mod their computer for many years and haven’t learnt a bunch of life skills. This is 100% more important than doing some tiny thing in game. Thorin and RL never pretend to be experts on the individual game of CS but their PERSPECTIVE does give them a level of expertise. Not only does watching the game for a long time and having vast knowledge give you an amazing eye test but yes it does make you an expert. Anyone can do it if they tried hard enough. The only thing that differentiates someone that has been watching hardcore cs for 15 years and an analyst is that analysts have behind the scenes data to go off and can cut it up so plebs can understand it better. And finally who said that their opinions were automatically always right. They aren’t right by simply existing, they are right because they are proven to be true again and again.
2021-06-25 00:31
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#335
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Denmark pebblez
+1
2021-06-25 00:32
Na’Vi bootcamp once a month, they just don’t play their officials at the bootcamp. Great points though
2021-06-24 23:07
Richard Lewis is just a baiter. How can u take serious the guy which tells 2nd best team in the world to change roster?
2021-06-24 23:45
13 replies
haha the team with the greatest player of all time and electronic is 2nd? Do you not realise how that is a failure? They should be cleaning Gambit off like shit of the bottom of their shoe but instead they struggle. You will never see a team like this again and you think it’s fine for them to be simply 2nd?
2021-06-24 23:49
12 replies
ok Gambit has the most decorated Kazakhstan player of all time and they have 4 young rookies who put 12 hr's in a practice day just to maintain thier status. and a coach who wants his team to succeed more than anything because he owns it.
2021-06-24 23:52
7 replies
Its the fact gambit are literally killing them selves just to set thier place in csgo history as the cis team that dominated the online era. working that hard will burn them out and they wont play well in the next general period of time if they keep on doing it, gambit are only good because they are harming them selves to make an era in the long term
2021-06-24 23:54
6 replies
You have no idea If that is the case. Gambit could get burned out tomorrow or in 10 years nobody knows and it’s foolish to say that we can judge the breaking point of a team as not even the team themselves can do that. And if Gambit are working extra fucking hard everyday why aren’t Navi? Anyway there is no way to tell any of this we don’t live with them
2021-06-24 23:58
5 replies
Yes but the general trend of teams that do work like this is that they last for 6-9 months and then they start taking breaks because of burn out issues, like Astralis , fnatic and other teams that set dominant streaks.
2021-06-24 23:59
4 replies
Youngsters like them can take far more stress than older players when they are hungry. This has also played out many times
2021-06-25 00:09
3 replies
yes olof jw pronax , krimz and flusha were relatively young and they still burnt out although il say that's a bad example because they got hate.
2021-06-25 00:11
2 replies
Cherry picking man. They were out under extremely strenuous circumstances and even you said it. What about LG/SK? Astralis and team liquid in 2019. These great teams all had to sacrifice in order to get where they were and work their ass’ off to do it
2021-06-25 00:19
1 reply
yes ok with LG/SK they just became bad which isn't because of burnout and also Astralis the age different are different so burn out is more strenuous . Gambit are working hard and that's why they are the top1 richard lewis are complaing about something you can't change. navi wont bomb gambit just to say we top 1 now lol xd
2021-06-25 00:21
name checks out. U should understand that any change in the roster is a huge risk. Organisation won't waste money and risk everything for a little chance of slightly better results. It has never worked out in CS:GO history. For tier-1 team roster changes are allowed only if they have washed-up old players that are getting worse every day. This is exactly what mousesports did with karrigan and Vitality did with RpK and even they suffered a little from these changes.
2021-06-25 00:01
3 replies
These are different changes to the ones Navi should implement. Navi might take a dip short term but If the players are truly great like people say then they should be able to work through it. 2nd means fuck all it might as well be the same as 3rd, 4th or 5th. In the end of the day 1st is getting the trophy not 2nd
2021-06-25 00:12
2 replies
I guess rn it is impossible to be better than Gambit unless u sign their lineup or they kick some players. So NaVi r doing pretty good and holding the best possible place. And it doesn't even matter what players coaches and staff u have in ur team, Gambit level is unachievable.
2021-06-25 00:22
1 reply
Bro do u realize that if Navi played that last final day later it could've been DH masters scenario again. These teams are extremely close Vs each other.
2021-06-25 02:51
#311
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Ukraine ksay
they've been criticizing na'vi since s1mple joined these diehard fans won't be satisfied unless he wins a major and has an era also they were overhyped about many changes in the past lineups but later they'll find another "problem" to fix neverending cycle
2021-06-25 00:06
why?
2021-06-25 00:04
Navi will never get an era with p0mple
2021-06-25 00:04
i think he's kinda right with their tactics being stale, but ofc they change, just a bit too slow and yes being in a bootcamp helps but shouldn't determin results this much edit: also this thread looks so fucked
2021-06-25 00:08
2 replies
it is
2021-06-25 00:15
#346
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United States PP_Bizon
NAVI have said they prefer being at home compared to bootcamp at an interview before. So I don't think the bootcamp factor is that big of a thing.
2021-06-25 03:26
Despite all cis mentality excuses, Navi 2010 is obvious example of what u should go through with ur team to start winning and it's cool to see gambit actually using those instructions rn, it's navi's problem they don't want to live the game, get locked on infinite bootcamp and be absolute fucking nerds. But there's no other way around and they know it. That's why I don't think s1mple is being honest when he says he wants to "win majors, dominate as a team", he wish he wanted it but he doesn't.
2021-06-25 00:17
#336
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
He is right, and beating Gambit or not won't Change ir. It's their consitent inconsciency. Every year they performa well for some months and are garbage for the remainder of the year. That is mostly do to them having no real decent tactic structure, and relying on players being on good periods. TL;DR Bad IGL, mediocre coach, never will amount to anything
2021-06-25 02:00
Navi really don't have any excuses to be anywhere but finals at this point. S1mple and Electronic at their peaks are one of the deadliest duos in modern CS and they're being wasted.
2021-06-25 02:30
if you think navi is bad, you are just seriously underselling gambit. navi are the clear #2 right now and they only reason they are not 1 is gambit gambit rn is literally a cracked up 2018 astralis and imagine saying navi 2021 is better than 2018 astralis. they have 4 players playing at an insanely impactful level in the perfect role set up and if they keep going like this will have 4 players in the hltv top 10 of 2021
2021-06-25 03:40
#353
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United States EasyPete
Oh I see, so you're saying blade isn't capable of adapting to the current meta, I agree :). What I might need more clarification on is about bootcamps. FaZe has some bootcamps, why do they lose so much?
2021-06-25 03:43
choosing to be strategic during the online era and not being able to be together irl is not an excuse to to play wobbly counter strike
2021-06-25 04:31
You can't say that Gambit is currently beating everyone just because they get to bootcamp. That's ridiculous. Bootcamp = winning has never been the correct math. Navi have won absolutely nothing big for the past idk how long and as a viewer I haven't seen much of a strat change for about the same amount time. One two inconsistent wins and that's about it. And yet according to their fans nobody is to blame, there is no fault in the team - even more ridiculous. They can't go on like this. It's as if I'm looking at a 2nd tier team. I don't expect them to win anything and when they do it's surprise and excitement, immidiately to be followed by absolute dissapointment in their next tournament. Lowkey have always rooted for Navi, but what they're doing needs a big change. Performance-wise aside, tactics and startegy need to be scraped and remade. We've been watching the same old inconsistent strat for the past 2 years. Somebody needs to step up, take responsibility for their failures and step back from the scene. I don't mind their "positive attitude" towards losses, but that can be valid for several tournaments at most, not years on end. At this point it's not positive attitude, but rather acceptance that they won't have an era. Another thing - just because they are putting in the effort doesn't mean it's good enough. You can bang your head against a solid wall for years on end with vigor and it still doesn't mean you are going to break through and get to the other side. How and where effort is applied matters. So simple saying that Blade is putting in a lot of effort doesn't mean jack. Why? Because they are a tier 1 team. Effort is expected, not something worth celebrating. Results are what matters and they got nothing to prove their value for the past 2 years.
2021-06-25 05:18
10 replies
Please keep hating NAVI, it’s make my team more popular! You can ask me: why tf they need to be more popular if they already are the best org with the biggest number of fans? Far away from orgs like g2! Well you right, I don’t know, I just exiting to see your salty ass at the end of the year, when NAVI will make your post looking even stupid that is it looking right now 🤣🤣🤣 NAVI is the most consistent team in last 18 months, and I feel sad for you that you can’t do a shit against that fact 🤡🤡🤡
2021-06-25 06:21
7 replies
I understand that arguments do nothing for you as it seems that you prefer to project your own saltiness and sadness upon me with insults and meaningless chatter. I pity you thus I hope you read the next few lines carefully. Perhaps life isn't going as you'd like, but do not fret my friend, for better days await. You are surely loved and life is more meaningful than you realize. Heads up bud.
2021-06-25 07:54
6 replies
don't waste your time on him
2021-06-25 10:19
3 replies
Oh the kid with mental issues is here now, when you will reply to me in another thread??!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
2021-06-25 11:58
2 replies
#360 literally said he was rooting for NaVi, you are the one with mental issues here, you obviously can't even read properly.
2021-06-25 12:14
1 reply
I don't care if he was rooting for NAVI, he can't write this shit about their result. You cant name any team better then NAVI in last 18 months
2021-06-25 12:26
You still can’t name any team better then NAVI in last 18 months, but yeah stay calling their wins inconsistent. Nt “hltv expert”
2021-06-25 12:17
1 reply
I fail to understand what other teams have got to do with what I said and also why you are trying to drag other teams into this conversation. My understanding of what you're saying is that they are consistently winning. Looking at Navi's rep for 2021 so far (from beginning until now): - BLAST Global Final: 1st - BLAST Spring Groups: 1st to 3rd - Katowice: 5th to 6th - ESL Pro League: 9th to 12th - DreamHack Spring: 1st - EPIC League CIS: 5th - BLAST Spring Final: 2nd Besides the first 2 BLAST events they are all over the place, going anywhere from 1st to 9th. I cannot call that consistently winning and I don't understand how you can. And my point that after every win they just disappoint in the following event, stands. Looking at their rep for 2020 (from beginning of the year till the end of the year): - BLAST Spring Series: 1st to 3rd - IEM Katowice: 1st - ESL Pro League S11: 4th - ESL One Rio: 7th to 8th - GWB: 1st - DreamHack Spring: 4th - BLAST Spring Final: 4th - WePlay: 1st - ESL One Cologne" 9th to 12th - ESL Pro League S12: 2nd - IEM New York: 4th - BLAST Fall: 4th to 6th - IEM Beijing: 2nd - BLAST Fall Final: 4th - IEM Global Challenge: 3rd to 4th In 2020 they were consistent. Consistently 4th. Not winning anything worth mentioning besides the first 2 events. And let's not talk about their results in 2019. It's a given that this year has yet to end, so perhaps they will prove me wrong and I would be glad to see them have their era, I would think that it's well deserved, especially for s1mple. But as far as I can tell, right now, with their results, it's looking a whole lot like last year. Maybe they would average 3rd instead of 4th this year, maybe even 2nd, but I don't see them consistently winning, which is what I said in my original post - "One two inconsistent wins and that's about it". I apologize that in your eyes, just because someone is a little bit interested in something, took their time to look around and has an opinion on it, it somehow suddenly means they are an expert - it says a lot about who you are. I hope you understand that just because you are a fan of some team, doesn't mean you got to hiss at anybody that says they are bad in any way. In any case, if you think I am wrong about the things I said then feel free to elaborate. Maybe I could learn something from you, even though I am doubtful, having in mind the way you have presented yourself so far.
2021-06-26 05:55
ok . Navi has dreamhack masters and blast global finals for this year so they are 2nd in most events won behind gambit. Gambit are a team that were rumoured to do 12 hour pracc days and probably do. Richard is complaining about navi not beating a team that has a high chance of burning out in the next couple of months because of these pracc days.
2021-06-25 09:49
Navi doesn't need many strats. When the aiming of all 5 is on point they can beat anyone. And it was always this way. Blast Finals even Flamie showed up DH even boombl4 show some kills. Why would you do work more as you have to do when you can win that way? Why invent 300 tactics when literally only 1 is necessary to win.
2021-06-25 12:56
Sorry I have been blocked by Richard Lewis
2021-06-25 05:29
1 reply
Respect 👍
2021-06-25 06:23
He's right though. Better IGL and better coach. You have 2 top 10 players and 1 being #1. You should be the number 1 in your region
2021-06-25 06:30
7 replies
+1
2021-06-25 12:17
but tell me who is better and a real upgrade? I don't mean in Theory. Tell me for CIS region an IGL that fits for Navi playstyle and would improve them hard... There is no one. And tell me a better coach?? only Zeus would be a competition to blad3 because he has a different approach to the game but also the experience to know what he is doing. But Zeus doesn't want to be a coach atm.
2021-06-25 12:51
5 replies
IGL's that you could get depending on the price is Chopper from Spirit (unlikely) and Jerry from forZe (very likely). I don't follow the CIS scene for the coach but they do need a new coach.
2021-06-25 17:11
4 replies
And you know that chopper could lead a S1mple and electronic so far better than boombl4 that it's worth it? Nooe you can't. For Navi level there is no better coach in cis Region that fits to the goal to stay on top. You can't put gambit coach for example. Because he built a team how he wanted. Blad3 has to work with players that already play on the top for years. You need a guy this players can respect in Cs not just as human.
2021-06-25 17:18
3 replies
hahahahaha I also said Jerry. But what they're doing is insanity and if you think doing the same thing over and over is going to work. You can't sit their and say that Boombl4 is going to bring them the major hahahaha
2021-06-25 17:20
2 replies
They won Kattowice they won blast. They had 2020 only top 4 places in any tournament. They were the most consistent team. So it is working for them. They are still top 2..
2021-06-25 17:23
1 reply
2 trophies in 2020... It's not consistent for the team they have. That's why they need it.
2021-06-26 05:27
#376
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Chile cap_
XD Richard Lewis XD
2021-06-25 08:10
#383
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Sweden suriel666
I still can't decide whether Richard Lewis is more of a clown or just a joke. But it doesn't matter, as he has no idea of how CS works and just throws shit around. Don't give him additional publicity, he's just a stupid hater. Did he make a reaction when NaVi slapped Gambit 3-0 in DHM? or 2-0 in CIS RMR ? I doubt it, because he's only there when NaVi lose a game, so he can shit on the team. Why isn't he shitting on Astralis? Shouldn't they be #1 since they have 4 multi-major winners in the team, with zonic, the "#1 coach" ?
2021-06-25 10:35
1 reply
He talks about Astralis problems as well, you obviously don't watch by the numbers... He is not a "stupid hater" he is rightfully criticizing NaVi for being bad, whilst having the GOAT in the team, he criticizes them for wasting the best player of all time.
2021-06-25 12:16
Navi doesn't wanna grind like Gambit. And as long as they win some tournaments there is no need to change that. Especially Electronic and Boombl4 are guys that want to use this free time. Navi could be better sure but to what costs. And that is literally a decision that doesn't need to be criticize. Richard lewis sits with his fat ass at home all day long. He has no idea. Navi won already 700k+ Prizemoney this year so they are easily the top 2 of most earning this year
2021-06-25 12:48
3 replies
+1
2021-06-25 14:49
What a shit mentality
2021-06-25 22:04
1 reply
it is actually above the average mentality. So probably above 70% of hltv user mentality.
2021-06-25 22:12
He's right tho. Na'Vi have historically never been able to string event wins together in a row despite having arguably the best player in the world with a decent enough supporting team that at one point included electronic in his prime. While I'm unsure if B1ad3 and/or Boombl4 are specifically to blame for their inconsistencies, Richard is correct when he says that they shouldn't settle for 2nd best. It's not an online issue either, Na'Vi can win events without a bootcamp (see: Blast Global Finals) and were the 2nd best team of 2020 according to HLTV so that argument goes at the window. It's not an excuse to play bad CS because that is the current competitive situation. It's also why I think Na'Vi is super overrated as a LAN team after Katowice because who knows if they would've shown the same performance in the next event? Even more so now considering LANs haven't been a thing for more than a year, so a lot of things can change. After winning BLAST and with Vitality and Astralis falling into their slumps, they should be the ones in Gambit's position right now. But somehow, they're not.
2021-06-25 12:51
1 reply
I agree that navi aren't consitent but saying that blade or boombl4 is the problem doesn't show the perspective that Gambit are just a better team because of thier situation. If navi could get 12 hour pracc days and boot camp for most of the time then it would show navi is a good team but because they are in thier current siutation where the lack of pure time navi actually they can't fully flesh out mistakes.
2021-06-25 14:48
#407
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Finland tonyi
right, its gambits fault for being able to bootcamp and put in the work that navi cant have an era...
2021-06-25 12:52
yeah because bootcamp suddenly fixes a lot of team problems and makes a team suddenly play better these issues for navi have been since 2019 for 2 years, they have nothing but won a tournament, made people think they may start an era, and then go on and preceed to be trash its been a never ending cycle
2021-06-25 14:52
Where were the calls for liquid being chokers? I can't even watch his stuff anymore - outdated, overrated jebaited??? It's hard for any team to have an era when there are so many great CIS teams currently (add in heroic) - the level of the game is very high and slight fluctuations will prevent any sustainable long runs like Astralis (who did it on LAN but didn't have TRUE challengers - considering the lack of mental fortitude which was on constant display by liquid) because the margins are much smaller - it's similar to how poker has evolved. It's fantastic gambit have managed to be so consistent but will that be the case on LAN or will they have to be more careful about pick and choosing their LANs? I think that may end up being the case
2021-06-25 17:48
You cant critique navi for not having an era because they are not the best team because this one other team is better wtf are you even saying bro If they are worse than a team and they want an era then obviously they need a change of some sort
2021-06-25 22:02
1 reply
yes but navi aren't going to have an era currently when teams like gambit have 4 players who bootcamp every day and are rumoured to have 12 hour practice days.
2021-06-25 22:07
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