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-Fallen +KennyS??
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Canada Femtal 
or oSee, Fallen better off in a br team and liquid need a better mechanical player.
2021-07-18 04:42
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Canada Pontti
+fallen -bad ideas
2021-07-18 04:44
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Canada Femtal
0/8 liquid need a better awper
2021-07-18 04:44
Liquid needs an IGL. Stewie is not a good IGL, he's not a natural. He's a natural secondary caller and he gets frustrated too much. They are not using him as an IGL, that's the problem in my opinion
2021-07-18 04:44
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Canada Femtal
yeah but fallen style of IGL'ing does not work with liquid that's way stewie is back at calling lol if he has no use they should remove him, don't get me wrong stewie needs to go too lol
2021-07-18 04:45
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I think they should cope with FalleN's IGL style because it shows that their best result was when FalleN was calling not Stewie. People say that when Stewie was calling they won CS Summit 8. But CS Summit 8 didn't have top European teams and they still lost to a Tier 2 NA team despite winning the event later on. All things considered, when FalleN was calling they reached the Semi Finals of IEM Katowice and also went 4 - 1 in the group stages in EPL. I think it's a travesty to see the state that Liquid is in right now. I think the large change came from adreN although I could be completely wrong on that part. The reason I think it's adreN because he mentioned in the interview it makes sense that Stewie to be calling over FalleN and the impression he gave the interview seems like he was the one that gave the recommendation to do it. Jus my take on the situation.
2021-07-18 04:50
Fallen IGL -> top 4 Stewie IGL -> top 15
2021-07-18 04:55
Like who? They picked up fallen, and he called for a bit, but then it’s back to stewie. If you could name a viable caller than sure
2021-07-18 04:47
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I think FalleN should be the main caller of this team and Liquid should adapt to him. I don't see any other viable caller in the CS scene. Maybe Alex who was the former IGL of C9? But who knows...
2021-07-18 04:51
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They should buy Vanity back from Valorant
2021-07-18 04:53
Fallen is still a decent awper, but yes, if you only keep him for this.,Osee or kennys are better. I'm not convinced about Stewie igl'ing thought. Adren praised him, but everyone is underperforming (including him) while he's igling.
2021-07-18 05:05
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Yup, absolutely agree. Eric "adreN" Hoag praised him as being a very good IGL, but the fact is the event they won was CS Summit 8, and the only team in that tournament that should put a fight against them was Furia other than that the other teams were Tier 2 NA teams for that matter. Furia was the only team with a substantial amount of experience playing against EU Teams, and when they lost, they were only closely losing against such teams. For example when they lost against Astralis in EPL Group Stages, it was all close games which is a rare thing to see when you see Liquid go against Astralis for that matter. The fact that Liquid was able to lose against Extra Salt in the group stages was a travesty in my opinion. And it shows that they weren't fully on point as they were when FalleN was calling in both Katowice and EPL. Furthermore, FalleN most definitely is better in terms of strategic and tactical prowess in comparison to Stewie due to the fact that when he was calling they were winning against top tier European teams.
2021-07-18 05:10
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Bosnia and Herzegovina dc4
wait did you just call kennys a mechanical player?
2021-07-18 04:45
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#7
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Canada Femtal
yes very fast player man :d
2021-07-18 04:46
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Bosnia and Herzegovina dc4
wait did you just say kennys is better than fallen?
2021-07-18 05:03
#6
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Montenegro lqbao160901
>better mechanical player >kennyS sure
2021-07-18 04:46
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#8
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Canada Femtal
you just cant see it sad
2021-07-18 04:46
Junior is low key underrated. He was under utilized in furia Trade Fallen for Junior, good for both teams
2021-07-18 04:48
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+1
2021-07-18 05:06
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Portugal MufT4r
0/8 give fallen the igl role. they were playing better when fallen was igl. they didn't even got time to adapt to fallen strats. i think that they failed to transition the igl role. lack of patient maybe? its easier if fallen adapts stew's igl style because the other players were already used to his leading style. They need to get their shit up and let fallen implement his igl style.
2021-07-18 04:59
#17
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United Arab Emirates rehzy
they should've bought daps before EG did, get him to call for the team while someone from the team learns from him, and later push him to the coach role.
2021-07-18 05:01
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nt tarik :)
2021-07-18 05:07
liquid tried to get osee, he declined. Source: liquid ceo said it in thorin interview
2021-07-18 05:06
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Honestly, it is obvious. Osee don't want to quit his friend (JT and Sonic). He declined cloud9's offer too. He is good, but he wants to keep surfing against na t2 teams. He doesn't have the mentality to play in a tier 1 team.
2021-07-18 05:10
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