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Shorter BO3 idea
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Norway dr_fiji 
If first map gets to 15-15, it stops as a draw, with 1 point to each team. So basically that means that winner of map two, wins the match. If both map 1 and 2 ends with 15-15, goes to third map. In third map, if 15-15, goes to normal OT.
2021-07-19 20:16
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Nah
2021-07-19 20:17
Nah
2021-07-19 20:17
But why
2021-07-19 20:17
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#10
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Norway dr_fiji
So people with a job can watch the full game and also get enough sleep
2021-07-19 20:18
12 replies
don't watch the whole game if you don't have time. If you're only interested in result and not in the gameplay itself, just check the result later
2021-07-19 20:21
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#15
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Norway dr_fiji
But it’s kinda difficult to go to sleep after watching 2 maps and beginning of the third. But yeah I have mustered the willpower to do so a couple of times..
2021-07-19 20:23
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or watch highlights like ESL are posting now
2021-07-19 20:29
8 replies
that's not a solution
2021-07-19 20:30
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Alright if you want a solution then I saw a good one on redd*t, have bo2 with only overtime on third map if it's 1-1.
2021-07-19 20:31
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nah, i like OT's version much more
2021-07-19 20:32
#58
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Netherlands BigBoyTies
so then it is a bo3?
2021-07-19 21:28
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2021-07-19 22:00
that's literally a b03 but you don't decide shit on the first maps cause there's no OT, what a genius
2021-07-19 21:40
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no when you go to third map it is straight to OT, no regulation
2021-07-19 22:00
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#88
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Netherlands BigBoyTies
Oh, so OT on a third map gotcha
2021-07-19 22:05
imagine having a job when tik-tok exists
2021-07-19 20:36
it will be finally suitable for TV format it is very annoying when the game should start at 1pm, but starts at 2:30 due to OTs and etc until matches start when they should, csgo will never be recognized as a competition
2021-07-19 20:20
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Tennis for example is working exactly like that. The matches never start when they are supposed to.
2021-07-19 20:28
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+1 there are many sports working like that lmao #12 tarded?
2021-07-19 20:49
#68
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United Kingdom JupiterACE
tennis doesn't 1 set drag on for two and a half hours as a regular occurence
2021-07-19 21:42
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Which map in CS takes 2 and half hours as a regular occurence?
2021-07-19 21:44
Nah
2021-07-19 20:17
0/8
2021-07-19 20:17
Just fix the CT economy so saving is discouraged.
2021-07-19 20:17
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#43
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Germany FAN_BIG
+1
2021-07-19 20:50
I think the differences between CT and T side economy makes the game more interesting. The game would feel more generic if CT sides weapons becomes as cheap as T side.
2021-07-19 21:12
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#73
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Finland Khroni
CT economy encourages saving every round, saving takes 40 seconds, saving is increased if a CT round is lost and if that is basically including all buy rounds CT will be saving the entire half T economy is just buy buy buy and eventually you'll break them and flip the economy on its head for the rest of the half Economy game is likely a requirement to shortening matches, as discouraging saving will save an extra 40 seconds a round already but if it needs shortening further with MR12 then the economy needs to be adjusted to stop the game being over as soon as the CT loses 1st rifle
2021-07-19 21:45
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i think there should be a some kind of mechanic to shorten saving process, like some kind of APC waiting in CT and T spawns, you can get in that and if whole team gets in it, the other team gets the point immediately.
2021-07-19 21:59
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#86
JUGi | 
Finland Khroni
Actually legit not a bad idea, there are already models on Inf and Mirage where saving is a huge issue Could make it more interesting like if there's 1 in there waiting for 1 more T's can molly it to kill them it smth to at least reward hunting down and speed it up either all getting there or having all CTs eliminated
2021-07-19 22:02
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i also thought about the fact that Ts would swarm the spawn area if CTs are saving so people wouldnt use that mechanic so much. to counteract this, you could make it so that you get way more money if you manage to save in the apc. it would be dangerous to get back to APC at times but could still be rewarding to try. Could create interesting spawn retake situations and stuff. it could prompt teams to save immediately incase of a double save too.
2021-07-19 22:11
interesting idea
2021-07-19 22:08
#7
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Hungary xAii
I actually like that idea
2021-07-19 20:17
#8
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Italy I_like_csgo
If Team A wins first map and then second map goes 15-15, does team A just win? Seems like a disappointing end to a series
2021-07-19 20:17
cs will die in 3 months after this
2021-07-19 20:18
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#11
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Norway dr_fiji
No. But Negev will become meta.
2021-07-19 20:19
Nah
2021-07-19 20:21
nah
2021-07-19 20:25
#17
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxyownz
MR12 betterr, OT is important for hype
2021-07-19 20:27
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#24
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Nepal askyee
Mr12 will ruin all ur hype so I dont think it's a good change either
2021-07-19 20:31
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#47
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxyownz
yeah mr12 without OT would be dogshit but with would be just fine if anything there should be more tournaments that play with MR12 to test it more and see both viewer and player response
2021-07-19 20:59
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#61
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Nepal askyee
I mean, OT isnt that often so Mr15 is completely fine, only thing they should somehow change is round time and after that maybe smoke / molly fade time and bomb explosion / defuse time
2021-07-19 21:31
#70
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United Kingdom JupiterACE
Why would OT change at all? It's a completely different game
2021-07-19 21:43
mr12 shit just make the rounds shorter
2021-07-19 20:34
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I don't mind watching MR16 for esport but playing MR16 in Matchmaking is such a pain. I rarely want to start a game cause i know i might not be able to have the time to finish it. Sometime it take 5 minutes for the game to just START , then technical break , then player vote break to go to toilet . at the end the game last 50 minutes and i spent 50 minuts with toxic people ? Make non ranked game MR 12 with less time for break and make new ranked with better and more transparent elo system MR 16
2021-07-19 20:40
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Interesting I find mm games too short, always 16-4 for one team, but on faceit it feels like 2 hours. The best option: you can change if you want to play in mr12 or mr16
2021-07-19 20:42
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#63
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Nepal askyee
on mr12 you need different economy than in a mr15 so i dont think it would work out to casual players to change that much of a it from game to game
2021-07-19 21:34
#48
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxyownz
could work too, but it would change dynamics of the game a lot. you would'nt be able to shift from one bombsite to another, you would always have to rely on fakes
2021-07-19 20:58
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yeah, i thought about it, you cant fake sites but theres no more JAME time, which os good. But it would be more ct sided
2021-07-19 21:10
It's a good idea for less important group stage matches, similar to the BO2 idea, but for important playoff matches the current BO3 is fine
2021-07-19 20:27
Better make cs 3 rounds game. 1st round only pistols 2nd round only pms 3rd round rifles u will watch full game and get enough sleep
2021-07-19 20:29
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> 2nd round only pms A round of shittalk on twitter sounds pretty based ngl
2021-07-19 21:00
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lol
2021-07-19 21:06
#23
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Romania csf
just play 2 MR12 maps with normal overtime and if each team wins a map make the 3rd map be a bo10 overtime with 16k money
2021-07-19 20:30
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#34
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Sweden DeclassCS
not that bad of an idea
2021-07-19 20:36
y? OT is crazy fun
2021-07-19 20:32
this is even worse than lulorant
2021-07-19 20:33
just make the rounds shorter
2021-07-19 20:33
#30
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Brazil Bactuga
You know whats better? making 3rd Map a Regular OT, with players choosing the side they get to play first on a Knife round.
2021-07-19 20:34
no
2021-07-19 20:35
Nah
2021-07-19 20:37
No.
2021-07-19 20:37
maybe both teams get half a point? so if there are 2 draws in a bo3 the team with the map win wins, if it is drawn at the end of map 3 it goes ot
2021-07-19 20:40
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also a good option
2021-07-19 21:08
#40
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United States burNout_
No
2021-07-19 20:47
No
2021-07-19 20:49
no
2021-07-19 20:51
kinda good idea actually. solves the issue without changing the game much
2021-07-19 20:51
No. But ban BO5
2021-07-19 20:53
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#62
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
-1
2021-07-19 21:31
no
2021-07-19 21:02
#54
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Germany pumpy
Nope
2021-07-19 21:10
Nah
2021-07-19 21:13
Bad idea. Better idea is keep mr15 and everyone stop crying
2021-07-19 21:26
You don't actually determine a winner with this format. It's basically saying "okay you are just as good on this map, but next map they are better so you lost both maps.
2021-07-19 21:28
#60
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
100% no, why would you do that???
2021-07-19 21:31
No.
2021-07-19 21:35
Shorter bo3 idea If anyone starts to get bored, both teams go knife in mid, whoever wins gets the series
2021-07-19 21:36
Nah
2021-07-19 21:37
#69
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Czech Republic NezmaR
LMFAO
2021-07-19 21:43
In this mode the old cheat dogs like fnatic gonna make huge comeback
2021-07-19 21:45
They need to shorten freeze time, allow coaches to talk and then no timeouts, or allow coaches to talk for the first 3 rounds of each half and only allow 2 25 second timeouts. In OT coaches get to speak for the 1st round of each half, no tacticals in OT. Also make the t side lose money if they've survived after the time has run out more than 2 or 3 times to discourage Ts saving every round for the last 40 seconds of a round. Decrease smoke time by a few seconds. Allow people to drop kevlar to teammates so less incentive to just eco/partial buy because ppl cannot afford kevlar.
2021-07-19 21:50
rather have champions league 2 leg system than this
2021-07-19 21:52
i think mr12 with rework economy is best to try less round time, less bomb time etc is just bullshit
2021-07-19 21:52
shorter bo3 idea: pay off one team to throw a map
2021-07-19 21:53
Or just make a fixed schedule where matches will start exactly in announced time I mean if previous match did not end, just start a next one and we have two matches in same time That will solve a problem when match should have been started at 20-00 for example but it started at 22-00 because previous one goes for 3 maps with OT
2021-07-19 21:54
pretty shit idea, but has a nice base to modify. Like, for example, just the Overtimes not to be infinite. One Overtime and it's over.
2021-07-19 21:56
There should be some option “give up the round”, so when T planted the bomb and CT just want to save then they can immediately skip to next round without waiting for ending the round. The same for T side, they left in 2v5 and 1 minute left and want to save then just skip the round. There is just one issue, that players want to hunt them down and take guns to brake the economy, so this must be somehow fixed,I just dont want to think about solution now Another thing, just cancel those stupid breaks between halfs, why is there a 3-4 minute break, like wtf, just switch sided and play. Shorter the breaks between maps too, 5 monite break and lets go for another map. Less timeout for teams, 2 per map is enough
2021-07-19 22:04
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+1 a mechanic like this is so necessary to make the games shorter
2021-07-19 22:02
no, I think the hunt for saving players is a good thing, should not be removed
2021-07-19 22:04
#98
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Brazil hugoooo
Hunting is a huge part of the economy game of CS... you can't just get rid of it like that.
2021-07-19 23:05
#84
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Uzbekistan gafurman
due wtf is this idea. If you said smth like - first map 15 - 15 and they switch to decider map, would make much more sense. Imagine NaVi playing 15 15 with some tier 15 team in epl and second map is vertigo. it's literally game over for them, cuz literally any team in the world can win against navi on vertigo
2021-07-19 22:01
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?? switching to decider will mean that you play one teams map pick, and never the other teams map pick. That is very unfair. If one team manages to get a 15-15 on the other teams map pick, its and earned advantage to win map 2.
2021-07-19 22:40
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#95
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Uzbekistan gafurman
nope. 15 15 means that technically the teams are even on that map, no matter who picked it(so it couldve been picked by team 1 if team 2 didn't pick it), hence they should go to decider right awya
2021-07-19 22:45
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lol bad bait.
2021-07-19 22:53
#91
Ax1Le | 
China fu22Y
simple and better idea: make second OT a BO7, so nothing goes beyond second OT
2021-07-19 22:09
Have new idea; The map changes for every round. Round 1 pistol round Inferno, next round Overpass, next Vertigo. Yes thank
2021-07-19 22:13
New idea for hltv, down and up votes for topics. If ur topics gets too much down votes ur not allowed to do so much topics lets say only 1 topic per week, if u get up votes u are able to do like 3-5 topics per day. normal is one topic per day.
2021-07-19 22:47
#97
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Brazil hugoooo
What if the first to reach 16 wins the map? Team A 15x14, Team B.... team B wins the 30th round, then it's 15-15, the team that wins the following round wins the map (by 16-15 score). Or, if it goes to 15-15, the team that wins two rounds in a row wins (17-15, 22-20, whatever). It would have a high impact in terms of equalizing the starting sides... because let's say you go to nuke, you really want to start CT right? Yea, but with my idea, the second half would have a different importance, since the OT would've be played without changing sides, so if you start T and it ends up going to OT, you would have to win just 2 in a row as CT.
2021-07-19 23:04
MR12 should be tried on T2-T3 to test if that would keep the excitement on the audience, with regular OT. If it works, maybe change the economy around it if needed, if not then it's fine ofc. Another thing they could do is cut down saving time by having the saving team (usually CT's) go back to their spawn with all remaining members to give round already to T's or something. If team makes it to this point, then the surviving team could get bonus kill money or something. Those two things alone could shorten matches a lot without damaging technical and tactical pauses as well as commercial breaks
2021-07-19 23:08
#100
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Germany felixG
ok, what about this idea? in finals, semi's maybe even quarters we play "finals-mode" which is just a regular bo3 we are used to. in groupstage, we start to play "+1 mode", which will work this way: - pick and ban phase stays the same - map 1 and 2 are played without overtime. - which team ever gets the +1 in rounds wins. let me explain with a few examples map 1 = 15:15 map 2 = 16:14 first team wins map 1 = 16:8 map 2 = 7:16 second team wins (cause +1 in rounds) map 1 = 16:10 map 2 = 10:16 (or every other draw in rounds) the teams go on the decider map, but it will be played in mr5 / 16000$ that would lead to the shortest possible game being a 16:0 01:0 the longest possible game being a 15:15 15:15 x overtimes it would basically shorten the time for games without changing any gamemechanics. the dynamics of possible comebacks would change a fair bit tho. what do you think? is this actually a possible fix?
2021-07-19 23:12
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