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Music headphones that are actually good for gaming?
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Czech Republic CyberBOT 
G'day fellas Which non-gaming headphones that you know of are actually great forgaming? Be it either competitive gaming or immersive gaming. For competitive, I'll have to note Audio Technica AD700x (and 500x and 900x), Meze 99 Classic and B&O H6 2nd generation. For immersive, I'm picking Hifiman Sundara and Philips Fidelio X2HR. Do you know of any others?
2021-07-22 11:22
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Just buy HyperX Cloud II, ez
2021-07-22 11:23
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A) I literally said non-gaming headphones. If you wanted to nominate the Cloud II's anyway, youshould have went with Takstar Pro 80 (that's what most the Cloud lineup really is) B) The Cloud 2 is somewhat decent, but pretty meh compared to some other optons in this pricerange
2021-07-22 11:27
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Just buy HyperX Cloud II, ez
2021-08-05 17:24
Steelseries Arctis Pro + gameDAC
2021-07-22 11:23
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1) I said non-gaming headphones 2) The Arctis Pro is overpriced and isn't worth it at all without the GameDAC. With it it's still overpriced, but at least somewhat decent.
2021-07-22 11:29
i would say all ss headphones are ovepriced AF for their quality
2021-07-22 11:47
if you're a noob
2021-08-05 17:11
who cars, you don't even have all those headphones you mentioned
2021-07-22 11:29
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If you're willing to wait until I get home, I'll be more than happy to provide you with proof of the opposite I'm a bit of a headphone hoarder, so the list above is also joined by Monolith M1060C, Sennheiser HD600, Beyerdynamic DT-770 Pro, Steelseries Arctis Pro Wireless, Corsair Virtuoso, HyperX Cloud flight. Plus some portable bluetooth headphones and some IEM's. The only ones mentioned above that I do not own are the AD500x and AD900x. I was picking between these and the 700x and the 700x won and got to be kept.
2021-07-22 11:35
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i don't get why you would buy that many but if it makes you happy all the best to you i've been using my k712 for years now and don't plan to change anytime soon
2021-07-22 11:47
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I like to experiment and change the sound accoding to my mood. Some of those I bought for a specific purpose (AD700x - CS, HD600 - audio mastering, DT-770 - mixing...) and some I got because I wanted to treat myself and expand my range af available sounds. For me headphones are less of a tool and more of a hobby Good taste on your headphone choice though, that one's a classic for a reason
2021-07-22 11:50
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Japan la_la_land
You do realize he bodied you. Here take this L
2021-08-05 16:30
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>flair I see you're an authority on taking L's
2021-08-05 16:36
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#68
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Japan la_la_land
Mad, that he rekt you so hard?
2021-08-05 17:01
You made me giggle a bit. Well played, sir. :D
2021-08-05 17:35
idk, but i can help you with a bump
2021-07-22 11:35
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Much appreciated my friend
2021-07-22 11:36
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you are welcome))
2021-07-22 11:38
music headphones don't have surround sound, so none
2021-07-22 11:35
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Surround sound is an overrated gimmick, trying to emulate wide soundstage of open-back headphones with closed-backs. Most headphones are stereo (2.0) and if they have good imaging, they can accurately convey the angle a sound is coming from. Few headsets have more than one speaker in each cup and fewer stll are good. What you want for a good gaming experience is great imaging and somewhat decent soundstage for competitive gaming, and wide AF sounstage with decent enough imaging for immersive gaming.
2021-07-22 11:40
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+1 I literally bought some headphones (for music, bose) without surround sound and checked them in CS:GO and heared footsteps at least the same or even better than on my old razers
2021-07-23 11:07
Just saying that most (all even) pros play on Stereo setting and CSGO's surround sound isn't the best anyway.
2021-07-23 09:43
Akg712, at700x, at900x, dt880,dt770 HD6XX the akg sound imo is really really good.
2021-07-22 11:42
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I haven't listened to the AKG's yet, but from what I've heard about them, they're super wide, so they'd probably be great for some immersive gaming, if not as good for competitive. The Audio technicas are the other way around, the 700x is my favourite budget competitive FPS headphone. Haven't tried the 880's or the 6XX (or 650's) yet, but Given that I have the 770's and HD600's, I'll probably give them a pass for now. I'll probably be getting either an Audeze or a Focal next.
2021-07-22 11:45
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Yeah they are superwide indeed and you're right probably not ideal for competitive FPS. I tried them at the shop and the sound was so impressive, it was like the first time hearing a decent set of cans.
2021-07-22 11:48
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My first good set of cans was the B&O H6 (if I ignore my trusty 15 year old Koss Porta Pro). After coming from the OG Razer Krakens, I was blown away by them and this hobby sucked me in.
2021-07-22 11:58
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I feel ya man, it's addictive. I own a pair of dt990s I don't recommend them if they're on your radar, they might be very good for positioning but the sound is so punchy and piercing that it vibrates my skull and I cannot focus on the game at all, I've tried adjusting EQ but still shit.
2021-07-22 12:02
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Yeah, I've heard similar stuff about them, sibilance is a bitch
2021-07-22 12:18
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Poland kruky
That's the thing, gaming headphones are simpler in terms of sound quality so you get better raw sound that game provides. In music directed headphones sound in game is more "mushy", blended together, they just won't work as good. I tried that. Since you clearly can afford decent set of headphones, just get one with purpose of gaming
2021-07-22 11:43
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Not entirely true, studio headphones generally sound as neutral as possible so as they sound was intended. But I agree you don't need amazing headphones to know where people are, however it's nice to have the best of both worlds and generally real headphones last a hell of a lot longer than gaming headphones and are more bang for buck.
2021-07-22 11:49
Idk
2021-07-22 11:44
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That's fair
2021-07-22 11:56
Honestly saying I'm more of a price = quality type of a person, I know that a lot of shit adds up price and I know that you don't get best value between the price and the product quality but still higher price = better quality (in most cases), the real question is whatever if you're going to see that quality or not... Cloud 2 is for example 10/10 csgo headset - I have Revolver S.. it's like 2x the price, is it worth 2x? ofc it's not. But sound quality is better (when we're talking about music), earpads can be replaced in a matter of seconds (not really, but it's easy af compared to other headsets), usb dongle has options afaik (tried cloud 2, didn't really mess with usb dongle since it wasn't mine) so yh.. just because it's a music headphone doesn't mean that it's a better headphone Check out Pioneer if you want.
2021-07-22 11:45
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Please don't take this personally, but Cloud 2's are most definitely not a 10/10 CSGO headset
2021-07-22 12:01
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I'm not taking it personally, and I'm not saying 10/10 in terms of just quality, but when you combine budet, quality, brand etc.. it's cloud 2... let's be real, cloud 2 are most used for csgo..
2021-07-22 12:12
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Most used and best all-rounders isn't necessarily the same thing. What they do have is the best marketing team. If we'r going with a headset, then the best all-rounders are probably the Cooler Master MH-751 and Sennheiser GSP 300
2021-07-22 12:21
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look, we don't have to over complicate stuff... all i'm saying is that there're certain headphones which are most used (that's why I mentioned C2) and I also said that higher price = better quality which means that it's great if you buy a 30$ audio headset but 300$ gaming headset will have better audio quality than a 30$ audio headset (that's the main point) We don't need to go too deep into details which headset is the best or the worst etc, all I'm saying is have realistic point of view when it comes to a price
2021-07-22 13:26
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Well obviously you can get better stuff if you throw more money at the problem, but that's not what the original question wasa about. The original question was about headphones that are actually good for gaming that are not gaming headsets. The end. Whether I think that most gaming headsets aren't actually very good for competitive gaming (I do) has no impact on that question. You're looking for a specific set of properties in any headphone to see if it's good for gaming (casual or fompetitive), those target properties are the same for gaming and non-gaming headphones alike. The thing is, beyond the $130-$150 mark, most gaming headsets stop making sense, their sound performance doesn't match their price. There's very few gaming headsets above $150 that actually are worth that money. Music headphones tend to scale much better, up into thousands of dollars.
2021-07-22 14:35
I have akg k612. Its really good to pinpoint objects by sound, but for some reason I can't hear some stuff (too quiet probably?). For example, my teammates with gaming headphones tell me that I heard smth, while I didn't.
2021-07-22 11:51
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Well, the K617 isn't very big on trebble, so that maybe why you can't hear stuff like footsteps. Also, what are you running the headphones out of? They can benefit from a dedicated Amp.
2021-07-22 11:56
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I tested it with on-board, fiio e10k and creative sb play. Same results, although on-board sounds like shit.
2021-07-22 11:58
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Yeah that sounds about right. You could try to EQ them a bit, boost the trebble for a few games and see if you can spot the difference
2021-07-22 11:59
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imgur.com/a/JEbEDUr which frequencies? add how much to add?
2021-07-22 12:06
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You could try to start with +4 on 8k and 16k and play around with it for a bit, maybe go to aim_botz, set the bots to ADAD and tune it to their footsteps
2021-07-22 12:19
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Austria Ostmark
WH-1000XM3
2021-07-22 12:10
Idk, but i use Sennheiser HD598, seem fine.
2021-07-22 12:11
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Czech Republic NezmaR
I want buy new headset too, first I buy Logitech G Pro Wireless , but I returned them because that "static noise" was pretty annoying... so I still got my old Razer Kraken V2 which are great for me, but I want a new one, so should I go for Logitech G Pro with cabel or buy something other ? any thoughts will be preciated :)
2021-07-22 12:16
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That depends, how much do you want to spend on it? What do you want to use it for? How much do you care about mic quality?
2021-07-22 12:42
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Czech Republic NezmaR
dont want wireless anymore so 3-4K cz should be enough for good one, mainly for gaming, mic can be classic, definetly not streaming or something like it
2021-07-22 13:30
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I'd probably go with either the Sennheiser GSP 300 (or 301 or 302, same headphone in a different color scheme), also known as EPOS GSP 300. A good alternative is the Cooler Master MH-751
2021-07-22 14:17
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Czech Republic NezmaR
thanks, I will think about it, but I already got logitech keybord so maybe choose that because I can get more things in one app :D
2021-07-23 09:28
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While I can understand that mentality, I'd argue against it in regards to sound. That being said, if you do end up liking them, there's nothing wrong with that, sound taste is subjective
2021-07-23 10:34
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United Kingdom DB_R20
I am using Fostex T60RP's paired with an EMOTIVA basx a-100 and a focusrite 2i2, I do have mic monitoring on, I just prefer hearing my voice, mic is MXL770 if you wanted to know
2021-07-22 12:20
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Oh yes, the T60RP, a.k.a. the best factory mod of the T50RP's. Have you thought about giving it the Argon treatment?
2021-07-22 12:43
amazon.in/gp/product/B079S811J3/ref=ppx_.. best headphones ive ever bought tbh i dont need to mention the pros bcz everything about is awesome cons: usb connector, so cant connect to phone, works on console/pc tho big headphones, not that it matters since u probably stay home all day
2021-07-23 09:34
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Spain MCMXCVI
they are trash compared to everyhting else here, sorry
2021-08-05 17:31
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Hav u ever used them?
2021-08-05 23:17
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World MattAaA
I've BD DT990 600 ohm and sometimes people with cheaper gaming headphones can hear better than me.. but I bought my headphones for mostly music and they are great!
2021-07-23 09:46
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I'd be kinda worried about sibilance to be honest, have you had any problems in that regard?
2021-07-23 10:35
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World MattAaA
I own them for 3 years, never had a problem. They are better for gaming also because they are semi open and better soundstage.
2021-07-23 10:38
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I've found that, for competitive gaming at least, while you want a bit of soundstage, after a certain point bigger soundstage tends to hurt imaging porformance, which is why overly wide headphones aren't usually the greatest at comp fps. AD700x? Pretty narrow, stellar imaging, no bass to speak off, enhanced trebble. Budget comp FPS king. Fidelio X2HR? Pretty wide, impactful bass, missing a bit of sub-bass (normal for open-backs), not the greatest imaging (because of the soundstage), a bit sharp (helps pick out footsteps), playing something less competitive (like Battlefield or Squad) is an absolute joy in them.
2021-07-23 10:43
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World MattAaA
You are probably right.
2021-07-23 16:32
#51
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Czech Republic Poloolpp
honestly i think every headphone is good for csgo, i had dt 770 which are supposedly really great for gaming because of their wide soundstage even for a closedback but i prefer my new k361 which have way narrower soundstage but they sound better for gaming and music and they are cheaper so i would just recommend getting those
2021-07-23 10:36
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I'd actually separate the 'gaming' sound into competitive and casual, where in competitive you care the most about positional accuracy and clarity in the right regions (IE where the footsteps are), whereas with casual gaming you care less about positional accuracy and more about the immersion, so things like soundtage become much more important, along with bass impacts and all that
2021-07-23 10:39
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#58
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Czech Republic Poloolpp
true but the "positional audio" imo doesn't differ much from each headphone/earbuds, pros use cheap earbuds on lans and it works for them... honestly i would just recommend you to buy the headphones you like its sound the most get used to them and they will work fine for comp gaming
2021-07-23 11:20
with speakers.
2021-07-23 10:48
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Thing is tho, you 100% could play CS with speakers and, if they were well set up, you'd have an accurate positional sound. The downside is that communication with other becomes that much harder/intrusive
2021-07-23 11:01
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Chile esanchez47
Does Sennheiser count?
2021-07-23 16:33
#61
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Poland J4nke
My Hifiman HE-4XX with Topping E30 and L30 do suprisingly well in csgo, very accurate positional audio thanks to the open design, I love this combo.
2021-07-23 16:36
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The Sundara also works relatively well, at least before you replace the stock earpads with Dekoni's LCD-style pads. They got wider, but also got worse imaging now
2021-08-05 12:01
Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro.
2021-07-23 16:36
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The 770 Pro's are probably better for gaming cause they're closed back. You need somewhere really quiet for 990's to be better
2021-08-05 17:14
If by gaming you mean spatial sound. rtings.com/headphones/tests/sound-qualit..
2021-08-05 16:27
I got a pair of B&O H9is coming tomorrow, was wondering how they'll compare to the 10 year old pair of Turtle Beach X11s I currently use
2021-08-05 17:04
Nuraphone and buy the mic for it too. Huge pricetag, but they're pretty great. Can hurt wearing them for a longer period of time at first, but i got used to them.
2021-08-05 17:04
I got myself some Samson SR850 just to check them out, and since they where dirt cheap, no issue. Honestly, they are the best headphones I have ever had for csgo, its kinda funny, as my previous pair is the Audeze Mobius, tbf, they smash the SR850 for music, especially since they sound sick even on bluetooth, but for gaming and spacial awareness the SR850 are real nice! If I ever can afford them, I really want to try the Sennheiser HD800s for gaming, as they are supposed to have really good spacial sound, but its waay out of my budget.
2021-08-05 17:12
I use the Audio Technica ATH m40x, you need an interface though so you're spending about £150 altogether, sounds amazing though
2021-08-05 23:24
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