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Latvia heywire 
Why do you enjoy pay to win racing? Not only that but to even start formula as a kid your parents need to pay 50-60k for a shifter kart, and then it just increases even at formula 3-4 you need to pay like a 100k to a million an year. It's basically a rich man's sport, hence why Rolex is the main sponsor.
2021-07-22 14:20
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people just watch it to look cool
2021-07-22 14:23
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#3
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Latvia heywire
yeah u see
2021-07-22 14:27
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ok
2021-07-22 14:24
#12
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Serbia hltvmens
So you are saying only rich people can watch F1?
2021-07-22 14:27
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Hockenheim weekend costs like 350 Euros per person ... so i could easily afford... im rich now mens))))
2021-07-22 14:40
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#60
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Serbia hltvmens
idk i can watch it for free on my tv
2021-07-22 15:50
because it's fun to watch? and not every single driver comes from rich upbringings, there are some exceptions
2021-07-22 14:22
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#4
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Latvia heywire
How can you not come from a rich upbringing, when the starting requirement is literally 40-60k an year?
2021-07-22 14:24
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#6
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Estonia FancyFitty
hamiltons dad worked 2 jobs to support his karting
2021-07-22 14:25
if u are good enought u dont need money u get big sponsors if u just are special
2021-07-22 14:25
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#21
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Netherlands n0b8m8
But he is talking about the very beginning i think, at that stage costs are already pretty high and you won't get noticed immediately by sponsors. You don't need to be filthy rich but atleast a decent amount of money is required
2021-07-22 14:35
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yeah but thats how life goes in every aspect basically u need money for happiness and to make awesome things in life :3
2021-07-22 15:28
you can't make it even to karting if you don't live in upper middle class at least. f1 is a rich white mens sport and has always been one. 90% of the drivers are arrogant, self orientend pricks who grew up with a silver spoon in their asshole.
2021-07-22 15:09
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rich white men are based.
2021-07-22 15:16
you know there are academy drivers who are there because of their skill and who get liike 80% of their "buy in fees" paid by the f1 team and the other 20% are pretty easy to get by sponsors
2021-07-22 14:32
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xd in order to get noticed by these teams they have to stand out in karting, which in itself costs thousands of dollars ro compete at relevant tournaments with a decent kart. no matter how much we love the sport, it will always be rhe playgroud for the rich. true talents like de vries for example should never be left out because people like latifi mazepin or stroll are in, it's disgusting.
2021-07-22 15:13
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latifi and mazespin yes... stroll is okay... he is delivering some good results actually
2021-07-22 16:43
90% of the race isn't fun.
2021-07-22 14:26
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Germany Dayjay
Quite a few drivers with poor or "not rich" background. Gasly, Alonso, Giovinazzi, Vettel, Kimi
2021-07-22 14:26
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#34
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Czech Republic Peks123
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2021-07-22 14:55
+1
2021-07-22 14:32
Modern racing to me is residentSleeper because of the damn DRS but pre-DRS era there were some good racing although people still complained that it was residentSleeper because schumacher was destroying everyone else. For me I enjoy racing because of the wheel to wheel action, flames from the back of the car and the complete determination and insane dedication to win a race. You can only understand when you've driven F1 simulators or racing games in general. What it takes to be on the limit idk hard to explain. If you get it you get it lol
2021-07-22 14:27
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whats wrong with DRS
2021-07-22 15:17
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its too powerful and makes overtaking inevitable in certain areas.
2021-07-22 15:23
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#53
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Estonia FancyFitty
without it u would say there is no overtaking
2021-07-22 15:34
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in the current shit era true cause cars suck at follwoing cars
2021-07-22 15:35
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#57
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Nigeria Zimbaebwe
yeah i already cant wait to see next year cars :)
2021-07-22 15:38
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they look so futuristic, i am really excited to see how they perform and how far they can make f1 more competitive for the "smaller" teams
2021-07-22 15:53
Nowadays there is a budget cap. You are right about other F1 leagues, they need to be more "talent friendly" and not just $$.
2021-07-22 14:27
I don't enjoy it, but there are a lot of fans in Brazil because of Senna, sadly I was too young to appreciate his races
2021-07-22 14:28
Should be different, something like football.
2021-07-22 14:28
It is ridiculously expensive hobby
2021-07-22 14:30
watch "F1 drive to survive" and you gonna understand
2021-07-22 14:31
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Hungary Nudlika
Why do you enjoy overpaid primadonnas roll on the grass? The best drivers did not pay for their seat in f1.
2021-07-22 14:34
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Latvia heywire
because they are actually talented.
2021-07-22 14:38
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Hungary Nudlika
so you say, driving around at 300km/h, centimeteres from eachother does not require skill? I guess you does not even have a driver's licence.
2021-07-22 14:52
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#33
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Latvia heywire
obviously it requires skill, but obviously there's people that have way more talent but never got the chance to. Just look at ronaldo and messi both goats, but literally came from a poor family
2021-07-22 14:53
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#38
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Hungary Nudlika
The ones who are really talented, gets there. Yes, it requires a lot of effort and money, and you can't do it without the support of your family, but there are people on the grid without multimillionare fathers, like Ocon, Raikkonen, from earlier Eriksson, or Vandorne. Yes, karting requires a lot of money, because it's a technical sport, and they do not play it with only a ball, but if you are good enough, sponsors will pick you up and eventually you can reach F1, but you have to be really really good. It really hurts f1 reputation that there are paid drivers, I agree, the fans do not like it, the pilots do not like it, but what can we do? We live in a world where money can buy you anything ( not anything, right MC and PSG ;D ) hence we got Mazepin on the grid, and Stroll, who probably wouldnt be on the grid without his father, but that is life. These people probably never gonna win a WDC.
2021-07-22 15:04
#20
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United Kingdom Bern1e
The engineering is pretty incredible, the sheer speeds is intense, the strategy and tactics are always interesting, the drivers add a level of personality to it that you dont get in other sports, there is always a winner (unlike football for example where you can spend nearly 2 hours watching a game and it be a 0-0 draw), the racing can be mazing (look at the battles between lewis and max this year). Yeah, there are boring races, but recently most races have been pretty great.
2021-07-22 14:35
Dude, every sport is p2w at some point. People know who is the talented one and who is not, no matter what their car is. Lance Stroll doesn't get more praise than George Russell for sure.
2021-07-22 14:37
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#25
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Latvia heywire
How is football pay to win?
2021-07-22 14:38
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#29
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Brazil Necro_Spa
Man City, Chelsea and PSG are examples, at least in domestic scene
2021-07-22 14:43
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#30
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Latvia heywire
Well that's the clubs, i am talking about the athlete and the access to compete.
2021-07-22 14:44
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If Lionel Messi never came to Barcelona and played for Newell's Old Boys instead, do you think he would be recognized as much as he is nowadays? There will always be teams that dominate a certain sport and F1 isn't something more or less compared to that.
2021-07-22 15:06
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#41
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Latvia heywire
well you know he got picked by barca, because he played good in his starter club, and then later for the best argentin youth team.
2021-07-22 15:07
#50
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Spain ez25
A lot of the best footballers come from SA or immigrant families, if it was p2w you'd see what happens in f1, most of the good drivers come from rich countries with little population
2021-07-22 15:24
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"Most" is an overstatement, pay drivers do exist in F1 but they don't last for long. Talent still comes first. There are currently 3 pay drivers in F1; Stroll, Latifi and Mazepin. Their families get the spotlight for being rich but there are also drivers like Hamilton, Alonso, Ocon and Vettel who had either poor or mediocre childhood. There are also drivers like Leclerc and Norris who explodes with talent and actually money yet didn't even link any sponsorship to their team as a pay driver would do.
2021-07-22 15:37
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#59
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Spain ez25
15% of drivers being p2w is really high to begin with I dont mean that there isnt talent or that you can only get to the top by paying, but f1 has a clear barrier of entry where you need to spend a lot of money to have a chance in becoming pro. This can be seen by small, rich countries being overrepresented (finland has 2 drivers in the top 20). You can compare this to other sports like football, chess, basketball
2021-07-22 15:50
I dont support any driver but is fun to watch
2021-07-22 14:38
F1 is cool and from next season on it may starts to develop in a direction where cars become more and more equal at some point and srsly the driver skill decides again but if you really love racing from the first to the last lap f2 and f3 are perfect for you since cars are completely equal and the only thing teams can do are setups and strategy and karting for fun isnt that expensive either.... and another idea how to get into racing sports if you take it seriously but dont have the financial backround is esports... honestly there are f1 teams who take esport pros as simulator drivers and then your stairway could lead you in an academy and real cars in lower formula series... but yeah this one is more than unlikely and the chances stand at 0.01% as for everything connected to professional sports/esports
2021-07-22 14:39
pay to win? ahaha aren't all sports like that? so you're asking us if we like football too?
2021-07-22 14:40
The reason I love F1 and, for me, it's the pinnacle of motorsport is because of all the different elements coming together. The best drivers from all around the world (that managed to maintain the budget), top engineers with the biggest budgets in motorsport to create the ultimate machines within the same regulatory guidelines. All these differing elements often create periods where the racing (at the front specifically), isn't close but when it is and I consider all these differing elements, it makes it something truly special to behold for me. Other than that, I love watching the midfield battles, watching onboards, tracking and live timing to get a full picture of the race, that makes even races that would be boring to watch just from the broadcast alone, much more interesting to me.
2021-07-22 14:47
Idk all motorsport is cool.
2021-07-22 14:57
cause we are finally good at something
2021-07-22 15:01
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#37
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Germany Dayjay
ice skating?
2021-07-22 15:02
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i did not know that existed
2021-07-22 15:05
shifter karts are no way near 50k unless you buy the best of the best. you can easily get one for like a couple thousand.
2021-07-22 15:09
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#51
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Spain ez25
Thats just the cheapest car, you also gotta pay for gas, insurance and rent a track, driving is def not cheap
2021-07-22 15:26
Because i like fast cars and watching kimis sunday hangover drives
2021-07-22 15:20
#48
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World spaaace
motorsport is entertaining, throw in the most advanced technology in the world and you have great entertainment
2021-07-22 15:21
ok idc about the finances. Its just fun to watch cars fighting and such.
2021-07-22 15:36
Most drivers have sponsors, to get sponsors you need to be good, I only see Mazepin as an exception
2021-07-22 15:41
#62
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Netherlands n3wH0p3
I like cars, fast cars and racing Voila, you have it all with F1
2021-07-22 15:56
I enjoy F1 for the tech, but it ain't much of a sport. Now some of those racing a very, very good drivers. Sadly only a few of them are in a seat where they have a car that win, so some of those very, very good drivers just become content with what they can get and others leaves for more competitive series. However it is not like money doesn't play a big role in other mother sport series, it is just, mostly, not as insane as F1. Rolex is very far from being a main sponsor. They are also far from being the only luxury brand sponsor, in general you see luxury brands sponsoring anything where the events have a sort of combination of glamour and class/tradition. So luxury brands sponsor yacht sailing, equestrian, grand slam tennis evens, Le Mans 24h, Daytona 24h... they also become personal sponsors for select athletes and stay so even after they retire. Anything that gets their brand shown in situation which their potential customers see and find positive.
2021-07-22 16:00
#64
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United States blessedUSA
f1 is alright i guess, timezones fuck it up for me so i barely watch it anymore, used to watch every race back when nando was the shit. worst thing about todays cars are these absolute beta male v6 garbage engines, what an absolute embarrassment for motorsport.
2021-07-22 16:04
#65
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United States gweees
The best driver currently wasn't rich at all lmao
2021-07-22 16:07
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