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s1mple 2 cologne device 0
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Ukraine Valta 
s1mple 2 cologne championships, device 0 why is no one talking about this but only s1mple 0 majors ?
2021-07-22 23:26
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Cologne <<< major 2 cologne <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 4 major
2021-07-22 23:27
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Brazil Very_Ok_Guy
flag
2021-07-22 23:28
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Europe Daudy
Is he wrong?
2021-07-22 23:36
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most likely no but still
2021-07-22 23:37
flag
2021-07-22 23:29
+1
2021-07-22 23:29
Cologne >>>>>>>>>> Major Bigger word = Bigger event
2021-07-22 23:33
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but colognes can also be majors which means cologne major >>>> cologne.
2021-07-22 23:34
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yes
2021-07-23 00:13
That's a controversial take. Most people say Cologne and Katowice are the best events of the year, not the majors.
2021-07-22 23:34
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Of course, Katowice and Cologne are exclusive to ESL, the best event organizer since cs 1.6. But it will never have the grandeur of a major (unless these two events are a major, as in 2019) We do not see "cologne winner" or "cologne mvp" featured on player profiles
2021-07-23 00:06
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yes but there are normally 2 major in a year while with katowice and cologne only 1. so navi getting 2 cologne = 4 major
2021-07-23 00:14
4 majors > 0 majors /closed
2021-07-22 23:29
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France evelynski
Because majors are overrated. They are no different than other big events. Truth is Cologne and Katowice used to be majors. s1mple won these titles in more competitive eras than others "legends" of csgo.
2021-07-22 23:29
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nah bro thats just not true, ill quote a comment from me from a few days ago One reason majors are a big deal is because every team is going to be putting their ALL into the event. Teams practice for months (including a player break before hand) in order to achieve at this event. Every team and player is going 110%. Also, all of the best teams right now are there. And because it's a major, the prestige factor and daunting nature of it being the biggest tournament of the year makes it even harder/more impressive to achieve.
2021-07-22 23:30
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+1
2021-07-22 23:31
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Poland xMBTx
+1 how can u compare regular tourney with a major? teams are best prepared for majors and the pressure is different
2021-07-22 23:32
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+1
2021-07-23 00:09
Cologne was the first lan in over a year, it was a bigger tournament than any major you can think of
2021-07-22 23:33
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that is probably the worst statement i have ever heard on hltv, well done.
2021-07-22 23:34
0/8
2021-07-22 23:34
0/8
2021-07-22 23:35
"Bigger tournament than any major" LOL no way you're serious
2021-07-22 23:35
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teams have to wait about 6 months for a major cologne's wait was longer than that
2021-07-22 23:37
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lmfao but how does that make it bigger??
2021-07-22 23:38
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people disregarded months of cs for just one event. this makes it big
2021-07-22 23:42
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Poland xMBTx
still just a regular tourney all teams and players dream about winning a major more than anything in CS
2021-07-22 23:43
didnt say Cologne wasn't big It definitely is big, but not bigger than Majors 0/8
2021-07-22 23:44
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do you really think people were believing to win against Astralis after they had a year when they were #1? look at cologne, you had faze believing they'll win against Gambit and they did
2021-07-22 23:49
0/8
2021-07-22 23:37
it wasnt even a true lan lmfao, teams sitting in different rooms and no crowd. It was shittier than every single major that has ever been played
2021-07-22 23:56
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faze still won against Gambit did anyone won against Astralis in the last 3 majors in the playoffs?
2021-07-22 23:59
+1
2021-07-22 23:34
But Majors lose a huge part of their prestige being hold twice a year, instead of just one huge championship
2021-07-22 23:36
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it doesn't. also its been a long time since we had 2 majors in a year
2021-07-22 23:43
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It does. It's been a long time since we had a single major, so idk why did you bring that up
2021-07-22 23:51
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France evelynski
Because every team didnt put "their ALL" in Cologne 2021 or Katowice 2020? Compare Katowice 2019 and 2020, it was more competitive in 2020. The last two majors won by Astralis were stomps agaisnt ENCE and AVANGAR in the grand finals. We had Gambit vs Immortals as a major grand final. Stop overrating them. They are definitely prestigious but thats it. Let's take JW as an example because he was kicked recently. He won two majors - Katowice and Cologne in 2015 - in an era with lesser competition than what we have now. I would rather win Cologne in 2021 who wasn't a major than Cologne 2015.
2021-07-22 23:39
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the amount of preperation with the player break + bootcamp for a major cannot be compared to any other tournament, there is nothing to argue really. that jw comparison makes absolutely zero sense as well, i don't even why you brought that up to be honest.
2021-07-22 23:42
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France evelynski
So much preparation that Immortals, ENCE or AVANGAR reached the grand final of majors ahah you proved by yourself that doing "player break + bootcamp" then a major allows upsets, underdogs to go far rather than have the best teams battle for the win.
2021-07-22 23:46
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Avangar reaching the final was due to the easy bracket against ence and renegades and ence played a crazy good tournament beating navi and faze and absolutely deserved to be in the final. thats actually another plus for a major, its extremely unpredictable and allows for upsets because the stakes are at its highest and some players just crumble. its the ultimate test. major > anything else
2021-07-22 23:49
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France evelynski
AVNAGAR won Vitality in quarters. ENCE won Liquid in quarters in Katowice. It was well played from them indeed. My comparison between Katowice 2019 and 2020 still stands. You explained me that what makes majors great is preparation and the best teams at the event. It was the case for both edition, except that one was a major, the other wasn't. Unlucky if you ask me. I don't care too much about the GOAT argument especially because players such as s1mple or ZywOo will play at the top for many more years before they retire, but all the clowns saying "device 4 majors s1mple 0" implying s1mple doesn't win big events are fallacy.
2021-07-22 23:55
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i don't understand why you don't want to accept that majors are simply valued higher than normal events, and thus harder to win as well. i mean you literally pointed out all the upsets.
2021-07-22 23:58
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France evelynski
Cologne 2021 was a "normal event" yeah sure xD Valued higher by the majority and they may be right, but what I tried to say above with JW is: winning in 2021 > winning in 2015.
2021-07-23 00:01
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also a very weird comparison, its like saying winning the world cup in football 2022 will be more valuable than when pele won in back in 1958. different times, different level of competition based on developement, different era of the game, very weird to compare.
2021-07-23 00:04
+1
2021-07-22 23:30
By the way, there are 2 Majors per year, whilst Cologne and Katowice happen once a year, like a true world championship.
2021-07-22 23:34
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iem summer, iem beijing etc also happen once in a year, does that make them a true world championship too ?
2021-07-22 23:36
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No, it doesn't. The scale of the events is different.
2021-07-22 23:41
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Brazil Very_Ok_Guy
s0mple is still better than device always has been and always will be
2021-07-22 23:29
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Poland xMBTx
how can u compare regular tourney with major? there is waaaay different pressure between 2 of em
2021-07-22 23:30
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And also tons of other tournaments device won
2021-07-22 23:46
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Poland xMBTx
i mean i saw confidence in navi players in semis and finals this cologne but i wouldnt be so sure they would be same confident at majors, they would 2nd guess themselves more
2021-07-22 23:48
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You compare with majors but not only majors is what I mean, you can just say, idk was it 19 or 29 lan trophies
2021-07-22 23:49
#12
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Brazil cauby
Coldzera 2 Cologne, 2 Majors, 2 Hltv player of the year, all back to back. 2ez4Cold the best player.
2021-07-22 23:32
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Not far from truth. coldzera in 2 years of his prime achieved way more than s1mple in last 6 years.
2021-07-22 23:33
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Brazil cauby
Don't fortget MLG Major where simple had 2 maps 15-x lead and couldn't close. And Coldzera showed why he was way better with the Graffiti play with AWP.
2021-07-22 23:35
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That's why I like GOATZERA.
2021-07-22 23:38
wtf that was lucky, how can you show that you are better than someone when you got lucky ?
2021-07-22 23:37
coldzera showed he is better with a play that is 100% luck Delusional af I agree that coldzera was better than s1mple in 2016 / 2017 but your comment right here is a fat 0/8
2021-07-22 23:38
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Brazil cauby
Luck is just an excuse. Liquid had 2 maps with 15 lead and couldn't close. Some plays is like a gamble you could enter for history or be the one who fuc' it all. Only a true player would have the guts to try it.
2021-07-22 23:40
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+1
2021-07-22 23:41
ok but Liquid choking is another story How does coldzera making a play that's 100% luck make him better than s1mple? s1mple also did a flying awp on Cache, so does that make him equal to coldzera?
2021-07-22 23:43
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Brazil cauby
If that play result in turn over cenario, yes. And as I already, isn't all about lucky, you have to be in mental shape to at least try it, remember if that went wrong, he would lost some precious time that could make the team rotate slowly and maybe lose the round and the game. Liquid played better all the game, but couldn't close.
2021-07-22 23:46
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I agree that Liquid was clearly the better one (and if they closed it they probably would've won the major), LG was just not as good but they choked. But SK was definitely better in every way at Cologne 2016. s1mple also played horribly
2021-07-22 23:50
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Brazil cauby
Agree that SK was really good team, the guy that replied with this match was just trying to bait like I did posting the Coldzera facts. And also agree that if Liquid win over LG they would win that Major, Na'vi wasn't playing that good. Edit: The cologne game wasn't me, just the MLG Major and the others facts.
2021-07-22 23:56
What's your point?
2021-07-22 23:36
what has it to do with #12?
2021-07-22 23:38
You mean he is the goat in your opinion?
2021-07-22 23:42
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Brazil cauby
No, based on facts, show me a player that has 2 majors, and 2 Hltv player of the year.
2021-07-22 23:43
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What do you mean with this? What are you trying to proof?
2021-07-22 23:47
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#63
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Brazil cauby
That he is the goat.
2021-07-22 23:47
Because, why be toxic? And this never works because device won so much more other stuff including more prestigious events that it wouldn’t look very good
2021-07-22 23:42
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Looks at his flair XD
2021-07-22 23:43
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Yeah he can still think of these reasons and come up with a better argument
2021-07-22 23:46
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just make you understand my honey
2021-07-22 23:47
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What does that mean….
2021-07-22 23:48
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It's Nt_NoScene's language.
2021-07-22 23:52
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Previous messages did make sense…
2021-07-22 23:53
+1
2021-07-22 23:55
Yes, s0mple_0_majors So s0mple has no scenes.
2021-07-23 00:01
#54
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Brazil Bactuga
Dev1ce 5 Blast S1mple 1 Blast
2021-07-22 23:44
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XD
2021-07-22 23:45
1?
2021-07-22 23:49
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Brazil Bactuga
I Looked at his achievements and only saw 1 so idk
2021-07-22 23:49
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he won more i think Edit: 2 BLAST Pro Series Copenhagen 2018 and BLAST Global Final 2020
2021-07-22 23:51
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Probably looked at trophies which only show lan onces but still counts ofc
2021-07-22 23:54
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In achievements it shows both online and the LAN one as BLAST logo hltv.org/player/7998/s1mple
2021-07-22 23:55
#59
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Poland xMBTx
omg so many delusional ppl here like if u would talk honest with players they would all pick winning a major than a cologne event 100% of the time so many delusional ppl here, talking with emotions, stating their statements like case is closed, majors are the most prestigious event in CS and it will always be like that, there is no rly point in discussion further, explaining this to delusional ppl here is useless, its like telling griefer to not grief
2021-07-22 23:46
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exactly
2021-07-22 23:49
#82
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Russia ToughGuy
yes majors thing overrated but it still more prestige cuz it's valve events but i agree that winning cologne/katowice these days is more prestige than winning major in 2013-15
2021-07-22 23:56
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Iraq DuncanAK
hahahaa
2021-07-22 23:57
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