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ESL 14 groups - Review
India DeathNaught 
Since the four groups have been drawn today, let us discuss and have a general review about them. Group A - to be fair, the main competitors are Heroic, Astralis and Vitality. These three teams losing to the other three teams will generally be counted as an "upset" and we can expect these three to move ahead. Group B - all teams that have been showing mix performances - sometimes playing godlike and sometimes like absolute bots (sorry). Renegades initial run in Cologne, Complexity's new improved roster, VP returning to online CS, and OG + G2 - teams that have a lot to prove are together making it one of the most competitive groups of the 4. Group C maybe heartbreaking for many. Three teams with huge fan base (NAVI - s1mple, FaZe - All Star, BIG - Only German Team) and also mousesports which also has a big fan base owing to some great names are grouped together. A new fnatic will also bring a lot of cheerers with it and I guess that Group C will have the most viewers compared to other Groups. Group D - except Gambit, all other teams have been performing poorly recently. The favourites are of course Liquid and NiP to go ahead unless we see a -honda +coldzera happening anytime soon. Thoughts?
2021-07-26 18:25
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If you want TLDR, just read about any 1 of 4 groups and keep quiet
2021-07-26 18:26
#2
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Russia necklace
spirit>heroic also they had close game with vita
2021-07-26 18:27
17 replies
Spirit are kings of choking
2021-07-26 18:28
2 replies
#12
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Russia necklace
+1
2021-07-26 18:31
kings of being average both online and lan
2021-07-26 22:26
lol cant see any tier 1 event wins for Spirit They are a good top 10-20 team, but not close to heoric Thats like saying FPX is better than gamit
2021-07-26 18:35
13 replies
ahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahah
2021-07-26 18:40
1 reply
#26
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Russia necklace
did i said, that spirit will win something? XD i said, that they are >> heroic, thats all ;)
2021-07-26 18:45
4 replies
Heoric win tier 1 event from time to time, thats better than spirit not winning ;)
2021-07-26 18:58
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#39
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Russia necklace
yea, but i said, that spirit>>heroic rn not this thing, that you are trying to explain me :))
2021-07-26 19:13
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IEM Summer both teams 9-12 Cologne Heoric 7-8 and Spirit last Yes i see yes 100% better agree nice mens))
2021-07-26 19:26
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#43
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Russia necklace
yea, spirit should have won that games vs heroic and vita, which was very close and unlucky for them)))
2021-07-26 19:38
Fpx is better than gamb0t. They can’t take a series off the fpx boys
2021-07-26 18:51
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Well, other than FPX won a grand final vs gambit, they are not better overall. Just than 1-2 games lol
2021-07-26 18:59
spirit is just better, they choked the 15-12 lead on ancient and also changed 2nd coach or something, maybe new tactics are incoming
2021-07-26 19:33
3 replies
"just better" When they clealy dont have the results to prove it
2021-07-26 19:34
2 replies
heroic has a fluke win from 2021, but they deserved it iem cologne: 7-8 place, mediocre place but ok spirit is sometimes godlike, 15-0's astralis then choke to a tier 2 team so i think spirit vs heroic is a 50/50 match And they are better than this astralis, and thats a fact
2021-07-26 19:49
1 reply
*2 tier 1 event wins in 2020 and 1 in 2021 Spirit 0 /closed
2021-07-26 19:55
0/8
2021-07-26 18:27
1 reply
Why 322_322_322
2021-07-26 18:33
Liquid v Gambit hype
2021-07-26 18:27
2 replies
hype for 32-7 game?
2021-07-26 18:31
1 reply
Seeing this match up for first time ever but ok
2021-07-29 11:18
#5
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Denmark pebblez
Group B is not one of the most competitive, it should be an easy group for G2 with how they are playing compared to others.
2021-07-26 18:27
6 replies
+1, VP is inconsistent, complexity is a new team(which has ups and downs that even out but they still got last at cologne), og didnt even qual for cologne, and renegades just dropped out immediately
2021-07-26 18:30
G2 strats and executes haven't been good at all. They win so many rounds just because of having better fire power. No surety of how consistent can their players be
2021-07-26 18:31
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#14
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Denmark pebblez
2021-07-26 18:33
3 replies
Okay sure
2021-07-26 18:34
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#20
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Denmark pebblez
they hardly lost, 16-11 16-14 16-13 (REALLY CLOSE) to a SUPER Na'Vi, it will be nothing but easy for them against these inconsistent and underwhelming teams of group B of ESL Pro League Season 14.
2021-07-26 18:36
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Gl G2 fan here as well btw
2021-07-26 18:40
Spirit has a chance but they havent looked too hot getting 9th-12th at summer and 13th-16th at cologne
2021-07-26 18:29
2 replies
Just because they're known chokers. They could have closed games out against Vitality, Heroic and FaZe easily. Apparently things didn't turn out the way and they choked as usual. Even nafany admitted that Spirit could have been in Gambit's shoes if they used all chances and if they got their ducks in a row
2021-07-26 18:38
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Man Being a spirit fan must be harsh, its always the favourites to win the event they face all the time
2021-07-26 18:48
G2 is definitely favorite for group b and they’ve been really consistent as of recently with top 3-4 finishes usually, and I’d say liquid and nip haven’t been performing that badly as based of rankings liquid finished above where they should’ve for cologne and nip hasn’t had that much time with lnz so I wasn’t expecting much higher for them either
2021-07-26 18:30
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Compared to how they should be performing with so many big names, they've performed poorly - this was what I meant 😅
2021-07-26 18:32
#17
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Finland ksiBOB
TLDR of all the groups?
2021-07-26 18:35
1 reply
N. A.
2021-07-26 18:36
BIG doesnt have a big fanbase
2021-07-26 18:36
1 reply
Every faceit and mm game has a "XANTARES PEEK" guy
2021-07-26 18:37
what do g2 have to prove ?
2021-07-26 18:47
3 replies
that they can win a tournament final
2021-07-26 18:48
2 replies
yes but they consistently got out of groups pretty easily so why do they have something to prove in the groupstage ?
2021-07-26 18:50
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idk op is the one who said that omegalul imo they should just get 1st in groups and go ahead to playoffs without any problems
2021-07-26 18:53
ok but ENCE
2021-07-26 18:48
Let's go Na'vi!! I really hope Mouz can fix their stuff and be consistently top 5. Oh and I hope they can close out matches now xD Online means a win for either Gambit or Heroic tho sadly. I hope Na'vi can do something special :(
2021-07-26 18:50
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#54
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Japan KuroX
you saying like Navi never won during online era. dang, you disrespect Navi
2021-07-29 05:58
Good Take Mate, have similar feelings.
2021-07-26 18:53
Noice post! GL
2021-07-26 19:05
32-0 gambit liquid Feelsgoodman No twistzz no win Cry is free Lulquid Twistzzz is NA pride twistzz is NA god
2021-07-26 19:41
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"Cry is free" is one constantly used sentence to users who are complaining about something. But what most people doesn't know, is that this sentence is actually a huge lie. As far as we know, tears consists of water and 0,9 gram salt per litre. And both of these ingredients are not free. Here I listed the price of 10 litre tears for the countries of the G8. I used the following formula (price is in US Dollar): (price 100 gram salt/100)x9 + (price 1 cubic litre water/100) = price 10 litre tears France: 0,20 $ Italy: 0,17 $ Germany: 0,19 $ United Kingdom: 0,22 $ USA: 0,18 $ Canada: 0,18 $ Japan: 0,18 $ Russia: 0,16 $ So in conclusion, cry is not free and UK has the most expensive cry in G8.
2021-07-26 19:59
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+1 India poor country
2021-07-26 22:16
finally we have a tournament where we don't have to see the 300th OG vs BIG matchup.
2021-07-26 22:31
bad news bears win the tournament EZ Clap
2021-07-26 22:33
2 replies
If they don't end up last place, I'll carry their flair for the rest of the year
2021-07-29 05:25
1 reply
they could beat like an ence or a spirit if they have off days imo
2021-07-29 15:19
just give trophy to sinners already
2021-07-29 11:24
#57
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Poland r_e_x
Dont forget about C group that there is MICHU in EG so basically the only PL player, so there will be also many viewers from Polska. Before any questions, mantu is mby polish but there is no bond between him and our community, generally ppl dont concider him as a polish or just dont cheer for him like for other polish player (like michu, hades, dycha)
2021-07-29 11:36
2 replies
MICHU has a lot of followers outside Poland as well Group C is gonna be ⚡
2021-07-30 13:14
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#60
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Poland r_e_x
LETS GO EG ⚡ ⚡ ⚡
2021-07-30 18:50
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