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AWP is OP (proof)
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Denmark GeorgeWKushington 
AWP is actually insanely OP for padding rating / stats. hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2021-01.. Here is a list of the top rated players in 2021 with top 50 competition filter to remove all the tier 10 australians. In the top 20 highest rated players in 2021 so far, 14 people are awpers. Let me say that one more time for you. Out of the top 20 highest rated players in 2021, 14 are awpers, and only 6 people are riflers. It becomes even more insane when you think about it. A team usually only has 1 AWPer and 4 riflers, because awping is very weak for retaking and can be weak for anchoring sites if you have 2. So think about it, 1 AWPer per team, 4 riflers per team. Yet in the list of the top 20 highest rated players, 14 of them are awpers. Do you understand how overrepresented they are in the top rating, considering how few awpers there are and how many riflers there are? HLTV must do something about it, they should nerf the 2.0 rating for awpers, otherwise riflers will never stand a chance to get #1 hltv.
2021-07-27 11:11
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tlldr
2021-07-27 11:12
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tldr is bait
2021-07-27 13:41
#2
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Ukraine Alexandro21
I thought it's gonna be another Alpha_Brazilian thread 🤔🤔🤔🤔
2021-07-27 11:12
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Brazil HenTheX
kkkkkkkk
2021-07-27 13:21
#71
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
same :(
2021-07-28 01:08
Lol same
2021-07-28 09:15
#3
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Denmark pebblez
in the filter HLTV actually use for their top 20 only 6/20 of the top 20 by rating are AWPers, I don't see the problem
2021-07-27 11:14
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1. With top 20 filter there are 7/20 who are awpers. 2. There are way fewer top 20 teams, if you filter it with players who played against top 20 competition you will see way more awpers than 7/20. It's just that there are few top 20 teams, 1 AWPer per team = there can only be so many awpers...
2021-07-27 11:19
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Denmark pebblez
ye awp isn't op, look at the top 30 and most of the best players of the teams are riflers.
2021-07-27 11:21
6 replies
Hahaha you have such a small brain
2021-07-27 11:22
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#9
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Denmark pebblez
yeah just looked at the top 20 and the rifler is the best player in the team in about 15/20 teams.
2021-07-27 11:25
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Hahah the cope is real. You are even starting to lie even more now. Good job, brainlet
2021-07-27 11:34
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#21
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Denmark Rottefar93
i mean ofc the have the best rating they naturaly play the most defensive position on the team. as it is long range, and also the one guy you want to save if at all possible because his gear is woth so much compared to the rest.
2021-07-27 11:40
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Europe JUNlOR
+1
2021-07-28 11:27
#23
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Denmark pebblez
jesus calm down lmao little baby
2021-07-27 11:50
awp is more expensive than ak, of course it's also better
2021-07-27 11:15
9 replies
Ppl will never understand cz they get rekt by awp in gold nova mm and cry about it later
2021-07-27 11:25
8 replies
Hahaha I promise you I play in higher elo than you bot
2021-07-27 11:35
7 replies
cs:go doesn't use elo, only faceit does :p
2021-07-27 12:31
No. You would not have made this topic if you did.
2021-07-27 13:20
If so you seem to be pretty boosted since u dont really understand the game, whats ur elo then? Im mg2!!
2021-07-27 14:25
No reply anymore, interesting
2021-07-28 00:19
3 replies
Of course no reply. He got shut down :D He had to resort to insults lol very mature from him..
2021-07-28 09:16
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He got banned:D
2021-07-28 10:51
1 reply
Very deserved ngl :D
2021-07-28 11:44
why does that matter? nobody cares about the top 20 highest rated player list, people care about who wins tournaments and who is in top 20 for the year. an awper who pads stats in tier 3 games is never going to be relevant in those lists. so why should I care about this?
2021-07-27 11:26
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it's very obvious proof that awping is very OP for stat padding and getting high rating
2021-07-27 11:37
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no it's not. it doesn't take into account that other players are dropping awp and these stats are irrelevant because they're not achievements or tournament wins
2021-07-27 11:40
Well thats the role they play? They get set up to get the stats. They have every benefits of being the starplayer and getting the nominations for best player. But that doesnt mean that the AWP is op, that just shows that the different roles are DIFFERENT. A striker in football or scorer i n hockey is setup for success and is most likely set to be nominated the top player. Its not the gear they use, its the way they play the game and what their team does for them. All teamsports has starroles and the roles neccessary to win. Thats the whole point. An awper is sure as hell gonna get nominated for best players award as long as the placings are based on stats. Thats a great benefit of being that starplayer or playing that particular role. Not everyone can do it and not everyone wants to do it. The awp is not the problem, the role is not a problem. Its people like you that doesnt understand teamsport that has to realise this.
2021-07-27 13:42
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Nono, striker needs to be nerfed. Z for all the noobs that dont understand the game striker lools op simce it has the most goals....
2021-07-27 14:26
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Lool. Your flair name makes it even better xD
2021-07-28 09:17
Use utility , use brain take control make the awper make a mistake. EZ
2021-07-27 11:27
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Australia B_Tannen
Firstly HLTV #1 isn’t relevant. But notice that most players, even the AWPers, are really good even without the AWP. You can still be bad with the gun.
2021-07-27 11:28
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Lol, not true at all. the awpers wouldnt even have close to their numbers if they played rifle
2021-07-27 11:36
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#28
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Brazil frvjoel
Yes because thats not their specialty. But awpers are better riflers than riflers are awpers
2021-07-27 12:28
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#39
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Australia B_Tannen
He missed my point entirely. #38 if you’re interested.
2021-07-27 12:52
#38
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Australia B_Tannen
You missed my point entirely. I never said the numbers would be close if they rifled, I said they’re also really good. Doesn’t mean they’ll be as good. Anyway, most top AWPers are individually the best in their teams overall. Of the list you provided: s1mple is the best in NaVi. ZywOo is the best in Vitality. oSee is the best in ES. MarKE is good but oSee is better. El1an is the best in entropiq. Sensei is the best in akuma. Sh1ro is the best in gambit. Deko is the best in 1win. Saffee is the best in pain. Oskar is the best in sinners. Smooya is the best in Movistar. Mertz is the best in nordavind. Jame and degster are arguable to be the best individually too. There’s a link between them being the best anyway and high rating. Just because they AWP doesn’t mean it’s the only reason why the ratings are this high.
2021-07-27 12:51
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#43
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
+1 The AWP obviously helps but is not at all exclusive to their individual skill level and statistics.
2021-07-27 13:14
sh1ro is not best player in Gambit, Ax1le is.
2021-07-27 13:34
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#49
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Australia B_Tannen
By impact yeah, but I specifically address individual skill. Sh1ro takes that.
2021-07-27 13:35
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#65
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Brazil Bactuga
Individual skill Ax1le has it still, the amount of clutches and just raw aim moments he gets is really good.
2021-07-28 00:28
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#70
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Australia B_Tannen
Sh1ro has more clutches in Gambit. I agree Ax1le is great but Sh1ro has the star power. He shuts down entire teams much more.
2021-07-28 01:07
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No one else can have clutches on gambit because shiro is last alive every round
2021-07-28 09:11
11 replies
axaxa +1
2021-07-28 09:18
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#83
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Australia B_Tannen
#82 Watch some gambit games.
2021-07-28 09:20
#87
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Australia B_Tannen
2021-07-28 09:36
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did u fr just reply again with ur repsonse to someone else holy shit go outside
2021-07-28 09:41
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#91
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Australia B_Tannen
Firstly, I’m responding while eating. Hardly going to do better things at the moment. Also, you entered with #79. Either don’t comment at all so I won’t respond, or google how discussions work and strap on a pair. Sick of cringeworthy amateurs like yourself degrading the quality of forums.
2021-07-28 09:52
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your first mistake was assuming hltv was a "quality form" go outside
2021-07-28 09:55
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#94
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Australia B_Tannen
Yeah so nothing to add to the actual discussion apart from “axaxa +1”. That’s what I thought. By the way, that’s how you use quotation marks.
2021-07-28 11:14
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jesus man go back to your 9-5 there is no way you're below the age of 40
2021-07-28 20:57
#82
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Australia B_Tannen
Yeah and he wins them. It’s not baiting if you get the kills. sh1ro has insane star power, impact and numbers.
2021-07-28 09:19
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No, he doesn't win them. He saves the awp.
2021-07-28 09:23
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#86
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Australia B_Tannen
sh1ro has more clutch wins since last October than s1mple has in the past 12 months. How about the rest of my point? Are you even going to address how good sh1ro’s numbers are, and his impact?
2021-07-28 09:36
Sh1ro takes the crown of saving more than jame and baiting more than simple but thats about it
2021-07-28 00:44
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Australia B_Tannen
It’s not baiting if you get the kills. #70
2021-07-28 01:09
+1
2021-07-27 14:37
Tbh I thought this is another Alpha_Brazilian's thread.
2021-07-27 11:30
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#73
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
yea same :((((
2021-07-28 01:10
Cry is free
2021-07-27 11:38
#24
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Germany TrTafitson
Maybe good players just tend to become AWP players because its a very important role? Like S1mple or Zywoo both are great with rifles but they both tend to AWP most of the time for their teams
2021-07-27 11:55
1. list is useless. only top30 matters 2. those are not the 20 best players but the 20 with the highest rating which doesnt matter at all. sh1ro is the supreme baiter that saves the awp every round. there are many others like him and they are mostly awping. the only actually great awpers in the game are s1mple and zywho and they are both the best 2 riflers in the game too anyway. stupid logic from apes that cant play the game
2021-07-27 12:21
True
2021-07-27 12:25
I agree, specially with the HLTV top ranking thing , bump
2021-07-27 12:30
Similiar post was made sometime ago. The guy did the math around the 2.0 ratings with awp and nerfed the awp ratings by 11% to balance the leaderboard. I think that worked pretty nicely
2021-07-27 12:30
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But why tho? unless it is dropped, the AWPer needs to sacrifice other stuff like utility or Armor to play with his weapon. Also it isn't even good on the T-side of many maps.
2021-07-27 12:32
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still 14 out of top 20 are awpers. I don't care about the weapon itself, i care about balancing the leaderboard. and some nerdy-ass user did the math that awp ratings needed to be nerfed by 11% and that works fine with me. I literally don't care about anything else in this situation
2021-07-27 12:36
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That is just the top20 rated players LUL Last top20 had only like 5? AWPers hltv.org/news/30897/top-20-players-of-20..
2021-07-27 12:37
"otherwise riflers will never stand a chance to get #1 hltv." m8 s1mple and zyw0o are the only AWPers who have gotten #1 HLTV
2021-07-27 12:31
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Lmfao...
2021-07-28 09:20
All I see is s1mple #1!
2021-07-27 12:59
#41
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Switzerland Jeded
If the awp was truly op it would have been nerfed ages ago. No pro complain about how strong the awp is because they know it is a balanced weapon
2021-07-27 13:06
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It was nerfed sadge
2021-07-27 13:42
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Switzerland Jeded
Yeah and since then it hasn't
2021-07-27 14:20
#42
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
I think the AWP is definitely overpowered but I don't think it's an urgent problem nor is in any immediate threat of a necessary nerf. "AWP is actually insanely OP for padding rating / stats." Well obviously, it's arguably the best gun in the game and is a one-shot kill to anything above the waist, that will obviously do wonders for your statistics but not all players are using the weapon specifically for that purpose, are they? EDIT: Forgot a word.
2021-07-27 13:12
awp is bait position because good kd
2021-07-27 13:24
the concept that awpers are great riflers is mostly true for top players as they all began and reached tier2 ish as riflers. s1mple, zywoo, device etc
2021-07-27 13:26
I agree, they should add bazooka in the game, so awp doesn't seem so op
2021-07-27 13:41
awp is great atm.
2021-07-27 13:44
it costs 4750 literally a full buy, ofc it's gonna be good
2021-07-27 14:23
most of those top players are also insane with ak, they're just better.
2021-07-27 14:25
nah its not
2021-07-27 14:28
I rifle against noobs, my k/d only like 1.5, I am entry fragger I AWP CT against noobs, my k/d is 4
2021-07-27 14:33
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#68
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United States okuulanda
well yeah if you entry you're gonna die a lot more than awping
2021-07-28 00:37
The problem is rifles are weak accuracy, damage, wallbang ect. Buff rifles and awp will not be OP anymore.
2021-07-28 00:33
#67
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Europe Niko0
Of course its better than rifles. Thats why its more expensive. It has been like that since alfa so who cars
2021-07-28 00:35
I have been seeing a lot of crying about awp being OP in the past few days, now I would really like to see Valve buff it and see more crybabies would be pure entertainment. 🤣
2021-07-28 02:21
#80
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United States Hindy
I agree with changing the 2.0 rating to not just suit the awps
2021-07-28 09:18
and yet some of these players won't even make it to top 20 so np
2021-07-28 09:19
It's true 100%
2021-07-28 09:38
The AWP costs $4750. This is in comparison to the main rifles which cost $2050 and $1650 less. So it makes sense awpers are higher rated. If there were more riflers with these high ratings you could make the argument for not buying an AWP. Such a dumb thread.
2021-07-28 09:50
I think you have a very poor understanding of what OP means. Awps are not supposed to be on the same level as rifles, they are supposed to be stronger but with higher risk. Learn the game.
2021-07-28 11:23
so?? look at 2015, 2016 when only 5 awpers at max got in top. shouldnt they nerf ak for it?? ppl just figured out how to use the awp better. now its rifler's turn to step up the game if they are completely dominated by awpers. btw, s1mple/zywoo barely buy awp on tside, they often pick it up off the ground. so saying that they are boosting their stats based on the awp is absurd.
2021-07-28 21:07
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