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paz | 
Turkey paz_top1_2021 
Ahaha, awp is not op dude, just flash every corner in the map for fucks sake, ahahaha What do you mean you soloQ and your teammates dont flash you? Then make them do it! What do you mean 10 flash is not enough to flash all angles on a map? Then read the game and only flash some of the angles. What do you mean reading the game is based on luck? Then download wallhacks and learn where the AWPer is. What do you mean AWP savers are abusing the economy? Then go and hunt them dude, AWP is not OP, trust me.
2021-07-28 15:24
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AWP is not OP, its just the best gun in the game.
2021-07-28 15:26
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#5
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Denmark de_lightful
its op /closed
2021-07-28 15:28
not even close, ak is best gun if awp was a lot cheaper i would agree maybe in game conditions not
2021-07-28 15:29
16 replies
So AK is op?
2021-07-28 15:33
1 reply
Yes but everyone is fine with that! Even cts pick it up if they just have an m4!
2021-07-29 00:17
The AWP is better than the AK, and that's why it has a greater price tag. In terms of value/money both guns are balanced!
2021-07-28 15:49
AWP is the best weapon in the game by far
2021-07-28 15:50
3 replies
if it had 1 shot 1 kill 100 percent rate id say yes ok you right but that takes it tittles away that and its price
2021-07-28 15:51
2 replies
Price is meaningless in this case since we are not talking about best efficiency to price ratio but about THE BEST weapon. When you talk about the fastest car you don't say 'oh but its very expensive, fiat is better because its cheap' AWP is the best weapon and every good CS:GO player know that. There is a reason why top 3 every year are snipers xD And why in 80% of the cases sniper has the highest rating in the team (unless you have ropz in the team, that guy is a beast)
2021-07-28 19:08
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thats one of the point from huge downsides in awp, i didnt even mention that your sens is slower when zoomed in you cant turn around easy, you run slow with awp, bullet fire rate is just worst at pro level - 1 miss will make you dead faster than you can blink, 3 people can just prefire your position, if awp is damaged he is sensitive to nades, ofcourse if pro players have great movement huge chance you not gonna kill him in 1 shot just left on red , also forcing the economy so 1 awp is bought saving cash and then losing will hurt extra, sometimes its hurts just to lose ak, how many times i seen game is lost because too much awp is used < i mean for too many rounds>, i cant count to that number, game can only be lost because awp -meaning others can even play defense on it, ok awp is a, lets go b < also more ways to throw games because awp, and for example, buying 2 awp will just hurt extra. Even having extra awps can make teams instant lose sometimes, 2awps is bad and 3 is pretty much instant lose
2021-07-28 19:16
#42
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Sweden sesar
its EASILY the best gun in the game, all top 3 best players are awpers, its not necessarily op but awpers have A LOT more freedom than riflers they can do some crazy shit if they master it. Many rounds are saved/won only by one player hitting his awp shots.
2021-07-28 16:16
8 replies
well you see zywoo you talking right hes considered the best player, if not invitations partnerships his team out of top 20 in the world right now just pretty much out of top 10 but hes best in world haha, please dont forget to talk about how his team is bad and how awp is good, facts are simple, 2 people going together just 1 shot is made in 3 seconds whatever, second player gonna kill the awp if not first, also flashing of the angles will make awp lose lot of value you just cant stand where you want because flashes it will be just as if you holding overpowered zeus in middle of round
2021-07-28 16:21
if enemy team is bad awp might look amazing, if they not playing like team looks like you can troll with awp and get funny kills and anything but reality is if team is well oiled awp can lose all its value, im sure many many many many rounds games are lost because eager to buy use that awp, where would be more usefull to just get ak :))
2021-07-28 16:23
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#48
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Sweden sesar
I am mostly talking about pro play tho, where the awpers have mastered the weapon to the point where you could basically be unstoppable, quickscope half shoulder peek with the right crosshair placement (in the middle of someone's body) and you get a free pick. (not saying that it's easy just that it's very common in the pro scene.) You can't just "flash him" and then u are good. You got to keep in mind here I never said that the awp is broken, I am just saying that out of all the guns, it's easily the best. Many pros will agree with me on this, elige even said it in his latest video. But ofc hltv pro "ralizar" with faceit level 5 knows better than Elige and other pros.
2021-07-28 17:13
5 replies
mate even in pro level, 2 deagles will make awp sht his pants pushing 2 good deagle players will get that awp dead or it will be save moment if anything save that awp lets lose game, if gear is perfect there is 0 lag deagle probably best gun in game for 700 you can easily win rounds, awps lose so many games, im also talking about pro level, pros like to abuse awp because they dont know better what to do, if they tried other guns it would win rounds, that awp and its saving there is huge downsides to awp, even like take away bullet speed 2 bullet in 10 seconds, where pp bisons will get that awp dead, take all that downside away, there is also that with awp your speed is minimal no movement no run, you have leg shot, also, imagine if you make pro player on red hp and he has deagle that awp will likely be dead
2021-07-28 17:22
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#59
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Sweden sesar
Deagle is also insanely good, but it's harder, its more impressive to get a 3-4k with one deags than an awp where you basically just aim at their body and gets the kill. If you have red hp with a deagle you will 9/10 times lose a duel to an ak. But with an awp you can kill people a lot quicker since you don't need perfect crosshair placement nor have to adjust and aim for the head. As I said, pros say awp is the best gun, I doubt you know more about the game obviously. what you are saying with 2 deagles pushing one awper is so situational that your arguments becomes invalid. There are 100s of other scenarios where the awp is 10x as strong as the deagle. You can win rounds with any weapon but its easier with the awp, that's why you see so many multikill rounds with the awp even tho only one or two players per team has it
2021-07-28 19:30
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mate im sure im 1000x better than you in game : D awp can lose many many rounds and many matches :) awp can only work is you superb pistol player, awp alone is trash gun,
2021-07-28 19:34
you mixing up 2 things AWP as a gun and AWPIST as a player :D, awp tactic might work nicely while awp gun is irreleavant, for awp tactic you need great pistol, let me guess you already counted deagle in automatically when you were talking about awp, also you need atleast 1 support player for awp, many nades, ye to play this style it might work but awp as gun is useless in most of map spots
2021-07-28 19:37
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#73
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Sweden sesar
"awp is useless in most map spots" ok now you have to be trolling, do you watch pro cs? past 2 years top 3 all awpers (or "awpists" xd). They get their huge impact because of the awp and how good they are with it, since they have so much freedom. I doubt ur 1000x better but we could 1v1 if u are up for it :D
2021-07-28 22:41
Awp not op Rifles that are weak Buff first bullet accuracy Buff rifle wallbang
2021-07-28 15:27
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#37
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Asia M@GNU5
I agree rifles are kinda weak like the CT rifles and galil's double dink is quite inconsistent
2021-07-28 15:56
#3
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Denmark de_lightful
awp is OP end of story
2021-07-28 15:27
#4
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Europe bad_at_life
just kill them, just hunt them :DDD youre braindead awp abuser
2021-07-28 15:28
2 replies
youre braindead bro
2021-07-28 15:42
1 reply
stop being in denial
2021-07-28 15:43
#7
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Denmark de_lightful
people alway say shit like "just use utility"like its an actual solution 99,999% of csgo players dont know shit and are just puggers running around (that includes high faceit elo lol) even if everyone knew how to smoke, molly flash, it doesnt matter anyway cause you cant know where the awper is. not to mention the awper CAN FUCKING MOVE AWAY to a new pos if they get smoked or flashed
2021-07-28 15:31
13 replies
U sound like a complete braindead bot with only aim no brain
2021-07-28 15:33
4 replies
how so? elaborate go on
2021-07-28 15:34
3 replies
as awpers generaly play 1 position on the map as thats the best position to put the awp . MNirage window or ct. Inferno long, and generally speaking awps in good positions are the awps in the most obvious position .
2021-07-28 16:20
2 replies
Oh yeah bro just predict their position it shouldn’t be hard
2021-07-28 17:24
1 reply
yes but its stupid logic as once u know what the awp plays its an easy as that. also awp's on Tside are reletivley usless unless you have s1mple
2021-07-29 00:02
#40
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Australia B_Tannen
Look at top teams. There’s a link between highest rated players being the best anyway. Just because someone AWPs doesn’t automatically mean they are the best player or highest rated. Nobody cares about how the AWP affects noob CS by the way.
2021-07-28 16:14
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"Nobody cares about how the AWP affects noob CS by the way." well i tell you valve fucking does care because so called "noob cs" makes for 98% of csgo's revenue to valve so close minded to only take pro play into consideration when trying to balance the game. 85% of the community dont give a shit about the pro scene
2021-07-28 17:47
2 replies
the cs world doesn't consist out of noobs and pro players, there is a world in between that consisting of subpar to good teams. that's the real target of this game. maybe valve just didn't consider that by killing the private server industry and adding in-client matchmaking suddenly so many people play this game as it's not intended to, as a pug. which is something in my view shouldn't be the main objective of cs-gaming, just a fun variation. but people take this pug gaming way too seriously and fewer and fewer teams come into existence. that doesn't take away that for two mediocre teams playing against each other the awp is considerably less OP than uncoordinated 5v5's. valve should just find a way to add ladders to the client and add events so that more people start playing the game as to how it is designed.
2021-07-28 20:11
#82
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Australia B_Tannen
Balancing affects the game most at the pro tier.
2021-07-29 01:18
#46
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Europe Amamiya
Well, there are no issues with awp whatsoever. Sure its a problem with people not learning how to use utility.
2021-07-28 16:23
3 replies
youre new to this discussion i see :) you see, it doesnt really matter if utility is used properly or not, because it still does fuck all to deal with an awper.
2021-07-28 17:48
1 reply
well utility is not the biggest counter to an AWP, a smart IGL will win against any dumb IGL. AWP isn't really even a factor because both teams have it. in pugs it's just easier for CT's to camp in a corner and wait for people to peek him one by one. if you lose one ak and trade the awper or force him to save it's a big win. normal teams don't dry peek one by one into a known awp spot but that's just yeah... common knowledge if you played this game at least on some competitive level (face it pugs are not competitive).
2021-07-28 20:20
Just use 10 flashes and molly every corner bro
2021-07-29 00:18
stop making these threads ffs, hltv admins cant nerf awp but they can ban you
2021-07-28 15:31
just buy another awp and peek the other awper and kill him. peekers advantage ez
2021-07-28 15:31
#10
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Andorra breasts
awp is not op, it's avp
2021-07-28 15:32
daily op awp alpha_brazillian alts threads
2021-07-28 15:34
6 replies
I am not his alt. I am turkish and I can prove it
2021-07-28 15:43
5 replies
if awp is so op on ct side why is the game very balanced? cry is free the awp is here to stay.
2021-07-28 15:47
2 replies
Because its also op on T side. When you push a on Mirage, you just watch CT with AWP, and ez 1 kill
2021-07-28 15:48
1 reply
ok so at worst it's OP on both sides who cars, game is balanced and stop crying about dying to awps. just be awper if you suck that much with utility/rifles.
2021-07-28 15:56
so alpha_brazillian has been turkish all this time...
2021-07-28 15:48
1 reply
he isn't turkish bro. His name says brazilian and he has brazil flag!
2021-07-28 15:49
#15
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Asia M@GNU5
sigh* another AWP thread in a nutshell
2021-07-28 15:35
#16
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Australia B_Tannen
What is with this flood of AWP OP threads? Simply, nobody cares about you dying to an AWPer in MM after peeking dry 1 by 1. Notice how no relevant pros are asking for AWP nerfs now? Check team stats, there is a link between just being the best in a roster and high rating. Having an AWP doesn't automatically mean your stats are the best.
2021-07-28 15:38
7 replies
0/8 even being an awper and just saving it constantly will boost your rating by 0.05. I am not even talking about the OPness of the gun
2021-07-28 15:44
6 replies
#27
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Australia B_Tannen
Check top teams. The link between high rating and simply being the best is clear. AWP doesn't automatically mean they have the highest rating / are the best.
2021-07-28 15:51
5 replies
they are best player because they have the awp. If device wasnt abusing the awp, magisk and dupreeh would have had better ratings than him for example
2021-07-28 15:51
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#31
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Australia B_Tannen
Do you have any evidence to support this statement? Because stats show my link in #27. You are using theoretical reality as evidence.
2021-07-28 15:53
3 replies
My evidence is as good as yours
2021-07-28 16:08
1 reply
#81
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Australia B_Tannen
3 years ago. Not exactly current.
2021-07-29 01:15
#30
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Brazil ozyyy
for me its op cuz it makes mediocre players have huge inpact, even in high tiers
2021-07-28 15:52
2 replies
+1 many people have their mvps stolen due to awpers being average
2021-07-28 15:55
1 reply
Facts From my experience 90% of mid-low elo "awpers" know 0 smokes and flashes, yet buying awp on T side
2021-07-28 20:01
Just make the rifles run and gun guns
2021-07-28 15:54
if awp was op then pros will buy that gun only lol
2021-07-28 15:55
yea dude just jiggle peak every angle in mm to avoid having a 15%hs bot player with furry avatar and rainbow sniper insta killing you. sounds like fun game, stop complaining guys
2021-07-28 15:56
#38
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Czech Republic Poloolpp
cry about it
2021-07-28 15:57
its avoopa
2021-07-28 16:15
It’s only OP if you’re a bad player playing against it. If you are a good awper you can buy an awp vs another good awper. The trick to kill awp, is buy awp. I fixed the problem for you scrubs. A lot of times you can use smokes and flashes to close the distance and make it possible to kill awper with an ak 47. You just have to make the awper uncomfortable in his camping spot. Confuse him maybe
2021-07-28 16:27
#51
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Sweden piCt
Sometimes i wish pugs were limited to 1 awp/team. But no, it is not op - if you miss you are fudged. If youre at the wrong pos and enemy eco rush you - you may have just lost the round for your team.
2021-07-28 17:27
2021-07-28 17:33
playing low elo pugs where ppl just peek you slowly one by one - AWP OP playing against ppl with just a tiny bit of brain, teamplay and utility knowledge - not op
2021-07-28 17:49
2 replies
+1
2021-07-28 20:06
Bro I’m level 10 and it’s still op even in there LMAOOO
2021-07-29 00:12
In FACEIT there is usually 2-3 awp's per side even thought hey cost 4700. Enough proof.
2021-07-28 19:29
1 reply
what elo are u that ur m8s play 2-3 awps on tside?? also, eco is a thing, so ofc u can afford to have 6 awps in the game at some point, even 10.
2021-07-28 20:53
if it was OP they would have fixed it already :DDDDDDD
2021-07-28 19:35
just remove it from dms
2021-07-28 19:38
If it was op niko would be the best player in the world right now when he picked it up. But no he got rekt with it and then gave it to amanek It is only op if you're in silver. You don't even need to flash most of the time. Baiting an awp shot with a knife is one of the easiest things to do and most of the time, people awp in very obvious positions. There is no jett in this game so yeah
2021-07-28 20:24
just make it have burst-fire
2021-07-28 20:32
"Ahaha, awp is not op dude, just flash every corner in the map for fucks sake, ahahaha" "What do you mean you soloQ and your teammates dont flash you? Then make them do it!" - if u peek mid with no nades, what do u expect? also u can flash for urself to peek out mid or certain spots, u can also buy nades. but ofc u shouldnt do it alone, its a teamgame after all "What do you mean 10 flash is not enough to flash all angles on a map? Then read the game and only flash some of the angles." - ?????? u can flash multiple angles with 1 flash... 2 flashes is enough to get every angle on a site vertigo "What do you mean reading the game is based on luck? Then download wallhacks and learn where the AWPer is." - its not based on luck? especially when u r 20 rounds into the game, u can predict ur opponents if they arent that dynamic. "What do you mean AWP savers are abusing the economy? Then go and hunt them dude, AWP is not OP, trust me." - thats the whole point of saving, lol.
2021-07-28 20:45
3 replies
Bro just cooperate with the 4 other random solo queue retards on your team bro
2021-07-29 00:14
2 replies
funny how every green rank on faceit talks sh*t about the players that are at the same rank and praise themselves as the only ones that actually know to leave the spawn. braindeads are ez to find in every game, u just gonna start nerfing guns because u get bad tm8s? good point.
2021-07-29 00:24
1 reply
I’m 2.2k elo lmao point is you can’t use the “its team game” argument in fucking solo queue
2021-07-29 00:28
#83
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United States Rayduh
Not Op in team CS
2021-07-29 01:25
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