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Device vs S1mple
HS | 
Europe S3pp 
For you who u think plays awp better? I think Device uses better positions but s1mple aim and flicks are just better.
2021-07-29 17:40
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s1mple is better and its not even a question /closed
2021-07-29 17:41
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#4
HS | 
Europe S3pp
If you say so :o
2021-07-29 17:41
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he said so +1
2021-07-29 18:28
#16
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Italy PhilD06
+1
2021-07-29 17:49
#43
allu | 
Europe JUNlOR
+1 "Device uses better positions" what the fuck does that even mean? s1mple's unpredictable and keeps moving around the map, device holds an angle and clicks. #6
2021-07-29 19:11
1 reply
+1
2021-07-29 19:12
#55
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Czech Republic frajergaba
+1
2021-07-30 16:34
+1
2021-07-30 16:42
+1
2021-07-30 22:37
+1
2021-07-30 22:52
device can only shoot still targets
2021-07-29 17:41
#3
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Sweden EZ4VOLVO
one on one s1mple, with team device may be :\
2021-07-29 17:41
s1mple's mechanics are definitely better as for who is the better awper, it depends on the team ig but still s1mple would pull ahead
2021-07-29 17:42
#6
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Denmark Almoe
shouldnt it be zywoo vs simple since they are both better than device?
2021-07-29 17:42
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#7
HS | 
Europe S3pp
you are Danish and thought you support device?
2021-07-29 17:44
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#12
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Denmark Almoe
ofc love watching him play
2021-07-29 17:46
#24
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
just because he is danish doesnt mean he has to be an idiot. Dev1ce is a god but he obviously isnt better then zywoo or s1mple
2021-07-29 18:09
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#26
HS | 
Europe S3pp
wtf are you talking about???
2021-07-29 18:22
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#28
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
read
2021-07-29 18:28
sh1ro vs s1mple zywho outdated
2021-07-29 17:50
5 replies
give zywoo a team like navi/gambit, and he will be amazing. People said the same in the first half of 2020, yet look who was Top 1 that year
2021-07-29 17:46
2 replies
probably right but also speculations, maybe his numbers drop when he gets a way better team? we don't know becasue he always played with bots
2021-07-29 17:47
+1 i hope others vitality members will step up
2021-07-29 18:54
#11
HS | 
Europe S3pp
zywoo 1v1 shiro then zywoo is ofc better but with team rn its Shiro, just because vitality isnt good atm. Otherwise it will be zywoo
2021-07-29 17:46
Vitality vs Gambit : 2-0 Vitality :)
2021-07-29 18:53
I think in terms of Awping s1mple is by far better than Dev1ce. You've got to understand that Dev1ce had a solid team he could rely on, and this clearly shows that after he moved from Astralis to NIP he hasn't been the same Dev1ce as he was before. If you look at s1mple's career starting from 2016 in NAVI. He had to hard carry his team and I think that is what makes him a more superior player in terms of awping and by and large.
2021-07-29 17:49
3 replies
+1
2021-07-29 17:48
+1 you always make great comments around here
2021-07-29 18:28
1 reply
Thanks! :D
2021-07-30 03:34
s1mple is better, in every aspect, and its not close to being close
2021-07-29 17:47
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Absolutely, it just shows this year. Dev1ce left Astralis a team with a proper structure and a four major winning roster. And he hasn't been the same on NIP. Whereas s1mple has had to hard carry his team every game, something of a rarity.
2021-07-29 17:50
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yep. s1mple would carry in any team...dev1ce can't do that, thats for sure
2021-07-29 17:57
#17
device | 
Denmark JKTP
S1mple is individually much better Device built the better team
2021-07-29 17:50
I'd say 2018 device was somewhat in the same league as s1mple but rn device is straight up levels below s1mple
2021-07-29 17:52
4 replies
lol ? 2018 s1mple had the best year out of any player (on any version of cs) dev1ce was nowhere close. HLTV themselves even said s1mple would have been #1 even if he retired after 6 months in.
2021-07-29 17:58
3 replies
You understand what "in the same league" means? All I'm saying currently device shouldn't even be in the talks, but back in 2018 the gap wasn't this huge
2021-07-29 18:03
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only reason he was in the same leaque was astralis, device can't carry his team the same like s1mple did for 2018 and 2019
2021-07-29 18:14
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Doesn't matter what the reasons were, he was atleast in same ball park as s1mple back in 2018 from pure performance and impact perspective but rn it's not even close lol
2021-07-29 18:58
Device in astralis = great awper, device anywhere else = not even top5 awper kekw overrated
2021-07-29 18:03
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+1
2021-07-29 19:04
Ye, (IGL) Hampus or (Coach) Threat mentioned how Dev1ce was used to having a very structured team when he was in Astralis, he was used to knowing what everyone was doing in the other parts of the map. Whereas in NIP he is not used to the system yet.
2021-07-30 03:50
3 replies
yep that prolly helped the most and he was comfortable all the time
2021-07-30 16:26
2 replies
People tend to forget that Dev1ce has been playing with the same core for over 7 years if am not mistaken. For him to leave that team and expect insane results afterwards would be asinine.
2021-07-30 18:17
1 reply
true
2021-07-31 14:17
+1 Exactly.
2021-07-30 16:33
device more attractive /closed
2021-07-29 18:26
1 reply
/open No! /closed
2021-07-29 19:08
S1mple in all aspects.
2021-07-29 18:29
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+11 Ye, (IGL) Hampus or (Coach) Threat if am not mistaken, either one of them mentioned how Dev1ce was used to having a very structured team when he was in Astralis, he was used to knowing what everyone was doing in the other parts of the map. Whereas in NIP he is not used to the system yet. This backs up the fact that Dev1ce is a system type player, which is something he said he's trying to disprove when he leaves for NIP.
2021-07-30 03:51
Device needs Gla1ve
2021-07-29 18:59
#37
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Both are legends, respect both.
2021-07-29 19:08
1 reply
+1 It's like comparing apples and tomatoes. They have very different playstyles, but s1mple is still just above all else
2021-07-29 19:10
dev40ce rematch and crybaby baiter s1mple god
2021-07-29 19:09
1 reply
+1
2021-07-30 16:33
device is great but Simple is the greatest
2021-07-29 19:09
sorry but device is nothing without astralis
2021-07-29 19:10
#45
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United States glup0
These are two GOATs with completely different styles so it’s kind of apples and oranges comparison If I wanted someone who I know can carry any team, is probably the best individual talent in the history of the game, s1mple obviously If I want someone with a proven track record of being a champion, with some of the best skill fundamentals in the history of the game, who is hard working and will fit like a glove in any well-tuned system, it’s obviously device. Even though they both awp their roles on their teams are different, no need to overly complicate things as they both are deserving of GOAT status. I could make an argument that device is more underrated in that since he’s not flashy like s1mple people discount his individual play level but it has for a long time been up there with the best of them, both in rifling and awping. Anyone who says device needed Astralis to shine individually clearly hasn’t been watching recent NiP games
2021-07-29 19:26
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+1 someone with a brain
2021-07-30 16:41
#47
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Brazil Bactuga
S1mple is better awper and player obviously, but if you put S1mple in some team like Fiend, and then put Dev1ce in a team like Skade, Skade will get better and why would they? because Dev1ce has so muuch knowledge and experience, he knows how a team should work, he knows how every map should be played, and you could say the same for S1mple but you can clearly see how NiP got so much better after Dev1ce joined even tho he doesnt do that many frags. And if you want to learn how to become a good Awper you should ALWAYS see Dev1ce demos, not S1mple because most of what S1mple does is rely on his skill and aim, most of his plays if it isnt him aim he would most likely die without killing 1 person.
2021-07-30 03:48
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so you are saying that s1mple all aim no brain or what?
2021-07-30 16:40
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#64
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Brazil Bactuga
No, but you cant recreate stuff he does, but you can recreate what Dev1ce does because he rely on good timings and stuff, if you see most of s1mple aces its aces where he wasnt really in a good spot but because hes really good he manages to get all kills, you cant recreate those stuff.
2021-07-30 22:31
3 replies
Yeah, but for the same reasons device can be a non factor if you watch his demos and to the right antistrats while with s1mple there's nothing you can do except hoping he has a bad day.
2021-07-30 22:46
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#70
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Brazil Bactuga
Thats the thing, you cant recreate what s1mple does or become s1mple, but you can recreate what Dev1ce does to some extent
2021-07-30 22:51
1 reply
Yeah, you can recreate what dev1ce does but it would only work in that type of perfect mechanism that Astralis had. And thats unique.
2021-07-30 22:56
#50
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Australia jd4ddy
NIP lost to Virtus Plow so S1mple is better
2021-07-30 03:56
This post was acceptable a year ago when it wasn't PROVEN that device is a mediocre awper that leaned heavily on Astralis to achieve his "GOAT Status". Even before that most people already knew he wasn't at the level of s1mple zywoo or a lot of other players, but now it's kinda blatant so why even ask?
2021-07-30 16:32
#57
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Hong Kong Wisherrrrr
dEvIcE 4 MaJoRs s0MpLE 0 MaJoR sO GoATvIcE iS BeTTeR
2021-07-30 16:41
No one is better than s1mple
2021-07-30 16:44
there are noone close to s1mples performance in cs history but dev1ce one of the best teamplayers
2021-07-30 16:45
#63
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Japan Peine
S1mple is god hitting 99% of his shots, play maker, game changer, solo carry a game, no matter his team he frags Dev1ce can't hit a single flick, can only hold an angle and if the ennemy jump he can't follow him, is nothing without Astralis's system, big ego, not very impactful and feared for an awper
2021-07-30 18:22
device angle holder
2021-07-30 22:38
#67
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Czech Republic JameS_19
devve is the GOAT /closed
2021-07-30 22:38
#68
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Israel Xpicyy
dev1ce is overrated. he's not even the best player in Nip
2021-07-30 22:40
s1mple is better, sure. but it's a silly comparison -- dev1ce is a great player, and he's really good at what he is doing.
2021-07-30 23:00
device>s1mple NIP>NaVi
2021-07-31 14:23
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