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Brazil BurajiruhitoKawaii 
Japanese is one of the hardest languages to speak and it takes alot of time to have a decent level, do anyone here have japanese as second language? how much did u take to be fluent and understand most things? my main goal is to watch anime without subtitles but i don't wanna lose half of my life for that, i am busy but still that's something i'd love to do.
2021-07-30 01:14
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I learned to speak finnish fluently in like 7 years, really hard language too, started to learn it school, had finnish friends that also helped
2021-07-30 01:18
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But where are you from? Or well, what is your mother tongue?
2021-07-30 01:27
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Russia
2021-07-30 03:13
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Ireland kdorek
If your goal to learn a language is watching media without subtitles then drop it before starting. That won't motivate you enough down the line. Also would be mostly useful for unsubbed 1970-1980 titles (which a surprising amount are subbed anyway, so mostly quite obscure titles or long-runners aren't), I doubt you're into those.
2021-07-30 01:18
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eh but is worth trying no, even if fluency is not the end result, some language understanding is valuable. set yourself a small daily goal mr brazilian and stick to it, do more on days you're feeling good but make sure you do what you set
2021-07-30 01:21
+1
2021-07-30 01:56
How do they decide what’s hardest to speak? Is there an index somewhere you can link? I’m curious
2021-07-30 01:19
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It's probably based on the CIA list, which means it pertains to anglophones.
2021-07-30 01:20
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The CIA tracks these things?
2021-07-30 01:23
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Pretty sure CIA came up with the ranking in order to streamline their process of foreign language acquisition (spies and shit).
2021-07-30 01:29
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Yeah diplomats mens haha I think info about spies is a bit more secretive
2021-07-30 01:34
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You think that the knowledge about a foreign language difficulty compromises the spy operations? Really?
2021-07-30 01:47
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Well they prob get someone who is already familiar so you blend in better
2021-07-30 01:49
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Andorra breasts
2021-07-30 01:24
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Interesting that both Germanic and romance European languages are considers the same difficultly for English speakers… I mean I have never seen a foreigner or “gringo”, whatever term you prefer)) speak good Dutch tbh
2021-07-30 01:27
Oh wow that's pretty useful tho I'm not gringo Ty bro
2021-07-30 01:29
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Isn’t every non br person one according to them?
2021-07-30 01:33
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What? Are you asking if everyone in the american continent are gringos except brazilians? If so, the answer is no. "Gringo/Gringa" is a term that latinos (mostly mexicans because they're their neighbors) use to refer to people from the USA in a way to express that they speak an unintelligible language
2021-07-30 01:45
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In br it’s used different then I guess cuz that’s what they told me (guys from Brazil)
2021-07-30 01:47
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Who told you that
2021-07-30 01:47
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Uhh someone from Brazil?
2021-07-30 01:53
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But don't you remember the user?
2021-07-30 01:54
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He used the insult against me for some reason and then said it basically just means foreigner in Brazil
2021-07-30 01:56
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I'm gonna ask my trusty bro ghcnvbkn
2021-07-30 01:57
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It makes sense no?
2021-07-30 01:59
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Yeah just wait for his reply
2021-07-30 02:00
Ok bro he told me that he thinks so, he wasn't 100% sure tho but let's think it's true.
2021-07-30 03:13
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
thats really interesting !
2021-07-30 01:33
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Bro could you explain #32 please?
2021-07-30 01:58
Don't think that's possible without moving to Japan. The culture of Japan is so hermetic that it will be hard to immerse yourself in it to maintain your ability (took Japanese A1 and A2 years ago - a waste of time).
2021-07-30 01:19
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what does hermetic mean
2021-07-30 01:38
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Hard to get into. Think: KPOP, k-dramas, etc.
2021-07-30 01:47
Japanese is not a hard language to learn, especially compared to languages that are hard to learn like mandarin or Finnish. Either way, it is kind of a dumb reason to learn a language. Just learn to read faster.
2021-07-30 01:20
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Denmark JKTP
Japanese is certainly a difficult language to learn It's easier then Mandarin sure but that doesn't mean it's "Not hard" it's by many regarded as among one of the hardest languages to learn.
2021-07-30 01:28
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thats fair, but im pretty sure mandarin is harder, either way his reasoning behind wanting to learn the language is pretty dumb, and its really hard to learn any language by not being in the country and around its native speakers
2021-07-30 01:41
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Denmark JKTP
I mean yeah it's an odd reason but honestly any reason to learn a new language is good enough in my book. Atleast it's a healthy hobby that's really good for you.
2021-07-30 02:03
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Japan Peine
It's not that hard actually, the big challenges is to learn 2 whole alphabets and then Kanji But once you know it, it's not as hard as people think it is
2021-07-30 01:21
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Alphabets were ez, Kanji on the other hand... I don't have that much free time. However, yeah, you can learn them in batches for specific level (ex. N5).
2021-07-30 01:29
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Andorra breasts
just get genki bro
2021-07-30 01:22
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Denmark JKTP
If you really want to learn a language you should move there for about 6 months (More is obviously better) Read up on the basics such as "Hello", "Thank you" etc. etc. and be able to speak good english. Even though watching movies and such can be effective, it has a hard limit. Especially in the case of japanese were you have multiple different ways of saying the same thing with 2 alphabetes and depending on how polite you are and what dialect you speak etc.
2021-07-30 01:28
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I like how you just say move in like a completely normal thing lol
2021-07-30 01:38
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Denmark JKTP
Well honestly it's not that hard, in some countries. Japan is a wealthy country and they have great interests in foreign travel projects. Most governments or goverment organizations have something but i don't know the english name of it. Basically you live with a foreign family for 3-12 months. Taking care of house duties, take care of the kids and other stuff the family needs.
2021-07-30 02:05
Mondaainaay
2021-07-30 01:51
Is understanding 50 words not enough? You want to understand all of them? I have thought about trying to learn japanese but it just seems like such a waste of time because it would take years to become decent and wont ever amount to anything meaningful
2021-07-30 01:56
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Can’t really have a lot of conversation with 50 words
2021-07-30 01:57
whot?
2021-07-30 02:14
i wish i havent opened this thread
2021-07-30 02:16
it takes a long time to become decent at speaking and understanding japanese, even more to become fluent. it really isn't worth it since you'll never put it to good use regardless.
2021-07-30 02:25
just watch anime with sub/dub ffs
2021-07-30 02:27
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Singapore Am2de
If you are not familiar with traditional or simplified chinese, it might be hard for you. There are three scripts in Japanse language. Kanji, Hiragana and Katakana. Kanji is adopted from chinese characters and it is hardest among three. Hiragana and Katakana are more common in writing but in rare cases you will come across Kanji characters. In my case, Japanese was not that hard to learn as Mandarin is my native language. It is even easier for people whose native language is Cantonese. Even some of my friends who are Japanese, they can't remember all the Kanji letters. For westerners I think Cantonese, Mandarin and Japanese are hardest languages to learn among all the Asian languages. Note - If you learning Japanese for more job opportunities, I would recommend to learn Mandarin rather than Japanese.
2021-07-30 02:28
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Sweden MalcomReed
Iceland has entered the chat
2021-07-30 03:15
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Europe ging_beard
i can stay silent in japanitzu, it didn;t take long for me, just half a second, you lose bro, you lose, i am already better in japanitzu than you
2021-07-30 03:17
I already had an advantage and was semi-fluent but I learnt to write and read hgana/kkana through youtube tutorials. It's a good first stepping stone to learning to be fluent
2021-07-30 03:54
I would want to learn Japanese but weebs made it weird for every other person who was actually interested in learning it.
2021-07-30 03:58
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China fu22Y
tbh watch 50-100 animes and you'll be good enough to understand most animes without sub. from there if you want to learn non-anime serious japanese it'll take some other effort but not hard at all
2021-07-30 04:00
I've just been binging anime for the past 7 year so I can't speak Japanese but I'm quite fluent in weeb. I can watch raw anime and understand, around 80-90% of what's being said if it's a basic anime or closer to 50-70% of what's being said depending on how technical or in depth it is. Though I did also study it for a bit on my own time just for fun.
2021-07-30 04:02
did BrazilianKawaii (your main) get 10 yeared or what
2021-07-30 04:01
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