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Most carried players of Tier 1
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Japan VeryWeebGuy 
Who is the new generation SmithZz of Tier 1 atm? My picks are: - Fallen - Sanji - apeX
2021-08-01 19:36
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yo les noobs
2021-08-01 19:36
karrigan and there is no one close
2021-08-01 19:36
18 replies
You mean the guy who just took faze to top 4 in the most stacked tournament we had in like a whole year? I arent think so
2021-08-01 19:38
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i.imgur.com/RVOFFzP.png seriously, those are probably the saddest stats i have ever seen, what a complete bot. inb4 he is igl he doesnt need to frag, well he still gets carried.
2021-08-01 19:41
14 replies
His stats are bot like and when you see him in game you think he is one too yes. But he thinks he is playing starcraft and does a good job at that !
2021-08-01 19:43
4 replies
i dont question his igl abilities, but the thread is about players who get carried, and karrigan is the definiton of a carried player.
2021-08-01 19:43
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#36
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Europe Daudy
Thats not really true tho. Faze without karrigan was clusterfuck. With him they actually look like decent team. On paper he might be carried but he deffinetly makes faze better.
2021-08-01 19:51
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when did faze last had a just an actual igl? the players karrigan is working with are all amazing players, but people act like karrigan with his calls dragged some bots into the semis of a stacked event.
2021-08-01 19:53
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#76
Polin | 
Europe Daudy
I am just saying that faze after niko left looked abysmal and since karrigan joined he managed to squeeze a lot out of palyers that people wanted out of the team. (on LAN) and i dont think it was fluke i genuinely think faze will be T1 team on LAN
2021-08-01 23:00
#53
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Czech Republic JameS_19
His stats don’t say a shit. He is the one who is opening the rounds. You have to watch the game to see his impact. On the T side against Gambit on ancient they got only few rounds, and all of them were only because of karrigan, without him they would have 0 rounds in the half
2021-08-01 20:16
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take him out and put him any decent igl who can actually outaim level 8 faceit players and they will do equally well
2021-08-01 20:17
4 replies
name checks out edit before you reply: f**k my name
2021-08-01 20:24
3 replies
am i wrong tho
2021-08-01 20:24
2 replies
idk but do read my name, and do have a good laugh
2021-08-01 20:25
yes
2021-08-02 01:31
hahhahah
2021-08-02 01:26
#103
zAAz | 
Canada wizQ
but remember bro. karigin is still a higher lvl player than you. lol
2021-08-02 03:16
you see goldens stats? literally all the bottom
2021-08-02 17:23
#104
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Australia ClydeIoF
"I aren't think so" has me chuckling. Well done.
2021-08-02 03:31
+1
2021-08-02 18:12
Karrigan
2021-08-01 19:36
#4
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Sweden AFCHannes
mens respect sanji pls ((
2021-08-01 19:36
12 replies
hes bad tho.. hes in vp because he is james bank
2021-08-01 19:38
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#31
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Sweden AFCHannes
yeah i cant deny that, he seems wholsome tho (
2021-08-01 19:46
#138
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Asia 333awp
James banks
2021-08-02 18:10
1 reply
HE HIS
2021-08-02 18:37
GOD SANJI has a 62.5% career HS ratio. Basically the Asian ScreaM being locked up by Jame. #ReleaseSANJI #NoNameJame
2021-08-01 22:56
3 replies
+1 SANJI is GOAT support
2021-08-02 03:43
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+99999999999999999999 I agree!!!!!!! SANJI GOAT SUPPORT
2021-08-02 13:47
+999999999999999999999999999999999999 SANJI is GOAT support
2021-08-02 13:47
yes but no He is quite bad but he is also literally jame's bank
2021-08-01 23:01
haha, press g drop gun lole!
2021-08-02 00:19
2 replies
But quickest at buying and dropping tho :O The human box stop they call him
2021-08-02 15:03
1 reply
You have 15 seconds to press 2 buttons, it's amateur hour isn't it.
2021-08-02 15:04
#5
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Poland humen))))
junior when he was in FURIA
2021-08-01 19:37
3 replies
+1 same for honda now
2021-08-01 20:09
2 replies
+1
2021-08-01 23:01
#121
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Poland sosiad
+1
2021-08-02 15:17
Flamie when he was in navi
2021-08-01 19:37
14 replies
#9
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Hungary galameister
+1
2021-08-01 19:37
he was almost never bottom of the scoreboard like rpk was... idk why people gave him hate
2021-08-01 19:52
12 replies
Flair doesnt check out Well he was inconsistent af
2021-08-01 20:07
5 replies
but he was never worst?
2021-08-01 20:09
4 replies
Arguably he rly was
2021-08-01 20:11
3 replies
for every game you find of flamie being bottom fragging I will find you 3 where he was not
2021-08-01 20:11
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#54
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Czech Republic JameS_19
From 2018?
2021-08-01 20:17
1 reply
from whenever
2021-08-01 20:18
#62
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CIS zMo_z
yeah, practically. he was always 4th with negative rating. zeus was always last.
2021-08-01 20:36
5 replies
I mean even after zeus he averaged 3rd blyatfecto and boobla took turns botting
2021-08-01 20:41
4 replies
#67
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CIS zMo_z
well, boombla took zeus's excuse "igl". perfecto was bad at the beginning, but then turned into clutch-meister and now he's a great anchor. and b1t is better anyway, don't you think so? he's top 5 player on cologne: hltv.org/stats?event=5469 then what is it, human factor? flamie played the most in the team, from 2015 to 2021, so he probably did the most bank after s1mple. only if you like his personality maybe..
2021-08-01 20:50
3 replies
B1T is actually very similar to flamie. Both have great aim but B1T is MUCH more consistent and is only 17 so he will only get better.
2021-08-01 20:53
bit is better no question, but there is no reason to say that flamie was a bot
2021-08-01 20:57
1 reply
On average he was not like an actual bot but he was mediocre for years and its not like he had some really tough role that didnt allow him to do anything.It is clear now that he was just not good enough and held the team back,b1t is miles above him even with very little experience
2021-08-02 03:46
apex, shox, rpk, misutaa, kyojin, nivera
2021-08-01 19:37
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nivera did decent, misutaaa is definetly getting better cant talk about the others since they are getting old but apEX is definetly the worst element, being the biggest rager in the scene while also being the igl.
2021-08-01 19:40
then who carried them?
2021-08-01 19:39
4 replies
1 element is missing.
2021-08-01 19:40
guess
2021-08-01 19:49
2 replies
dev1ce?
2021-08-01 22:52
maikelele?
2021-08-02 18:40
boombl4
2021-08-01 19:37
#12
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
s1mple sh1ro zywOo dev1ce syrsoN broky jame amaNEk etc
2021-08-01 19:38
4 replies
You like going fishing mens)))
2021-08-01 19:39
2 replies
#19
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
actually yes lol
2021-08-01 19:40
1 reply
I think you will catch a lot!
2021-08-01 19:43
HeY iDiOt s1Mp lUl bEsT pLaYeR oN eArTh
2021-08-01 23:03
acor, bymas, dexter
2021-08-01 19:38
13 replies
that hurts my feelings
2021-08-01 19:40
12 replies
why does it? Ropz, frozen carry = potentially they will get to sign to an actual good team. If they do so frozen can achieve a lot of things, would make slovakian fans proud.
2021-08-01 19:44
11 replies
bymas still little kid with lack of tier 1 experience, sexter had to adapt to EU cs but currently in good form.. acor actually got carried i agree
2021-08-01 19:47
10 replies
i know, bymas was supposed to be the permanent stand in, but everyone except the now 2 carries left from the karrigan lineup that was winning all the tournaments. ChrisJ got kicked, woxic left for c9, karrigan left for FaZe. -bymas +szejn/JDC -acor + torzsi
2021-08-01 19:50
9 replies
i guess -acor +chrisJ and mouz back in top 3
2021-08-01 19:52
7 replies
why do people love ChrisJ so much, he is over 30 washed up AF. Please don't resurrect these players from the grave, just keep the new blood coming.
2021-08-01 19:56
6 replies
Bro torzsi is literally sucking even in tier55 academy league, just look at acoR stats when he played in MAD Lions he was literally 1.20 rating player at tier2/3 it's ropz fault he is great player but he is just taking too much space
2021-08-01 23:05
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name doesn't check out you have really small brain. Acor is 23, he should peak rn, yet he missed a shit ton. Torzsi is only 19 and has a lot of good years ahead of him. Plus torzsi is the highest rated player in mouz nxt, who have the first spot in the Academy Lan Event. Checkmate
2021-08-02 13:41
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not even 23, he is 24. Amanek (27) was secondary awp, and was made main awp out of necessity, is 2 times better than acoR is in mouz as a main awper.
2021-08-02 13:43
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Umm no, Amanek barely have 1.00 rating while acor is on 1.10? Smth like this ofc he is not that good but it's ropz who takes a lot of space
2021-08-02 17:06
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its like saying zywoo needs a lot of space, LIKE YEAH OFC BC HE NEEDS TO CARRY HIS SHIT ASS TEAM
2021-08-02 17:32
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Yeah yeah like i said ropz is great player and probably the second best in terms of raw skill besides s1mple/zywoo but he takes a lot of space and add to this frozen space, Acor is good but it seems he also needs a lot of space to shine I'm not so sure torzsi would be much better considering he is inexperienced
2021-08-02 18:11
Bymas was good on LAN tbh. acoR whiffed so many shots. Actually kinda unreal how many sitters he missed
2021-08-01 22:58
#20
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Netherlands Lacerta
Boombla Apex Shox Karrigan Bubzkji
2021-08-01 19:40
LNZ and sh0ro
2021-08-01 19:43
3 replies
y sh1ro? he is a really good awper
2021-08-01 19:44
2 replies
Angle holding more than device and getting carried by hobbit and ax1le
2021-08-01 20:29
1 reply
And? 1.21 rating while syrs0N?
2021-08-01 23:06
boombla electronic B1T perfecto flamie apex shox misuta kyojin rpk
2021-08-01 19:44
2 replies
xaxaxaxaxa
2021-08-01 23:02
0/8
2021-08-02 18:08
#28
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Norway jarhil
Boombl4, apex
2021-08-01 19:44
Apex, chopper, karrigan, interz, plopski
2021-08-01 19:45
4 replies
Interz is actually criminally underrated i mean Forester and Perfecto are better supports than him but he is still quite good
2021-08-01 23:07
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#97
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Brazil _pedrin
I don't think Forester is a support. Isn't Nickelback the supporter/Igl of Entropiq?
2021-08-02 01:42
2 replies
Nah it's Krad actually but Forester is Perfecto-type player as he was offered to NaVi some time ago
2021-08-02 17:09
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#133
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Brazil _pedrin
Ok, i got it. Ty
2021-08-02 17:35
All igls are carried.. in astralis 2020 days..maybe xyp9x
2021-08-01 19:46
karrigan, fallen, tizian
2021-08-01 19:51
3 replies
Wtf tizian is still playing?
2021-08-01 19:52
2 replies
i think yes lul
2021-08-01 19:52
not enough young german players means no replacement. At least now they have an academy team
2021-08-01 19:57
fallen
2021-08-01 19:57
1 reply
Explain this then: 2
2021-08-02 02:25
#51
saffee | 
Brazil uezu
Honda for sure
2021-08-01 20:12
Blad3
2021-08-01 20:13
#61
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Brazil veinnN
nt baiter
2021-08-01 20:34
FalleN stanislaw
2021-08-01 20:44
1 reply
+1
2021-08-01 23:02
#65
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Pronax is the most obvious choice. Karrigan was actually a fairly decent fragger on TSM/Astralis before heading into FaZe and becoming a weaker fragger all-round. Now, it's hard to say... Xizt was actually an insanely good fragger back during the NiP era but easily became the weakest player even with Friberg's decline back in 2015.
2021-08-01 20:47
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I think TaZ was even worse than pronax but it's could be by prism of fnatic being so good back in 2015 But back to 1.6 times i think ceh9 would also be good pick cuz when Zeus is higher rated player in a team that was probably the most dominant in history of entire CS franchise then you're really "bad" by pro standards
2021-08-01 23:09
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#92
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
I completely forgot about TaZ... To be fair, Snax and Byali hard-carried prime-Virtus.Pro back in 2014 and even in 2016, Snax was a Top 5 player when nobody else on VP was to be seen.
2021-08-02 01:18
TaZ was not worse for sure. TaZ actually had pretty decent aim, most of the guys on VP had back then. Just look at the major they won how all of them dominated. pasha looked like friggin' s1mple with AWP back then owning up everybody. I remember pros frequented DMs back then quite often and just from playing vs them and getting a feel for it I can safely say that pronax in terms of raw skill was very average. He made that up with his ability to read the game and to keep his cool and play well off his teammates. And the fact he had possibly the 4 best individual players in the game at the time in their respective positions (kennyS might've been the better AWPer back then but JW was close 2nd).
2021-08-02 01:29
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Yeah you could be right, It's like Taz being better aimer and player skill-wisely but pronax was better IGL but yeah on other hand Pronax had Prime JW, Flusha and Olofmeister and probably one of the best versions of KRIMZ so he could look better by that prism while TaZ had only byali and Snax But i disagree it was GuardiaN who dominated 2015 AWP scene GuardiaN > KennyS > JW
2021-08-02 17:18
#125
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Austria Ostmark
he said atm but also fifflaren was way more carried than pronax
2021-08-02 17:07
2 replies
I can agree to that, though I think Fifflaren is better than Pronax individually.
2021-08-02 17:48
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#135
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Austria Ostmark
the thing is, pronax was an igl and a really good one making him a crucial part of fnatic success fifflaren on the other didn't bring as much and could have been replaced with little to no downside
2021-08-02 17:59
stanislaw (Tarik still carries him from the EG bench)
2021-08-01 20:48
Guardian 2019
2021-08-01 20:51
Shox without a doubt... Fnatic finally found a brain and kicked JW but Vitality keep paying this bot
2021-08-01 20:55
interz obviously
2021-08-01 22:57
everyone on Vitality Except ZywOo.
2021-08-02 00:14
Sanji? Cmon mens he is dropping every round
2021-08-02 00:21
1 reply
not kills tho ahahaha
2021-08-02 03:04
k1to maybe But then once every 5 maps he obliterates everyone
2021-08-02 01:30
1 reply
SH1TO!!!!!!!!!!
2021-08-02 18:13
Stewie10AM for sure
2021-08-02 01:48
#99
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Canada DeFeCtO_
stewie2k after 2019 k1to kennyS after mid 2020 misutaaa, apEX, Rpk since 2019 shox, kyojin 2021
2021-08-02 01:59
glad no one mentioned TACO.
2021-08-02 02:28
smithzz 1 major s1mple 0 major just saying
2021-08-02 13:45
1 reply
Facts!
2021-08-02 15:04
peine that insecure british guy with the ugly voice uk man
2021-08-02 15:09
2 replies
Who is he playing for ?
2021-08-02 15:09
1 reply
idk ask jonathan e. i am no hltv admin i dont know these things
2021-08-02 15:09
#123
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Brazil Elakk
Comparing sanji and apex to fallen, don't do that
2021-08-02 15:17
1 reply
#141
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Russia CYETA
fallen would have worse stats than both of them had he not been an AWPer
2021-08-02 18:12
curious cause those 3 players are top tier on support stats
2021-08-02 17:08
Stopped reading at sanji. Support player = carried fix up
2021-08-02 17:23
Pronax
2021-08-02 17:35
junior and honda
2021-08-02 18:07
s0mple
2021-08-02 18:13
#145
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Netherlands m1nimal
GOD SANJI carries his team
2021-08-02 18:39
#147
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United States Rayduh
FalleN
2021-08-02 19:06
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