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From 60hz to 240hz
Latvia pRopaaNS 
I've been looking for monitor upgrade for a year and longer, it's only now I finally found a deal worth taking. 240hz for 296euros, Dell s2522hg. Before that the price jump from 144hz to 240hz didn't make sense to take up, and didn't want to buy 144hz just to end up buying new monitor later and wasting more money that way. Another big factor why I held on is because I have yet to buy GPU capable for playing other games than cs at high refresh rate. I had stopped playing csgo entirely for months at this point. Because I felt like 60hz is unfair performance, where I can't properly control what I am doing. I felt like my 60hz monitor had something more than just low refresh rate, it felt like it had additional input delay on top of it. Maybe it's all me just being old and slow? Let's see how much of it is true and what changes. This 1st day though, tired after a job and not able to focus well for DM test runs. I'll update this thread whenever I crystalize any solid conclusions.
2021-08-03 20:35
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im just pissed i cant find a decent 240 hz, 1440p screen
2021-08-03 20:39
40 replies
pg279qm seems to be best at it based on reviews that I remember. I saw someone making a reddit thread about switching from aw2721d to pg279qm and feeling satisfied with the choice.
2021-08-03 20:42
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cheers. About 1k eur atm tho. :/
2021-08-03 20:59
why tf u want 2K for 24" monitor
2021-08-03 21:06
11 replies
i want a 27''
2021-08-03 21:26
5 replies
too big for cs/valo/dota/ too small for normie games ok
2021-08-03 21:28
4 replies
perfect for both. It's not like im ever going pro, im 29 bruh
2021-08-03 21:28
3 replies
i think best for cs 55 inch tv
2021-08-03 21:29
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thxmens
2021-08-03 21:29
Mens come on best for CS is a wall projector...
2021-08-12 11:14
He said He wants 1440p monitor, not 1080p (2K).
2021-08-05 19:55
4 replies
> 1080p (2K) Wrong
2021-08-15 18:46
3 replies
1440p=2K is a very common misconception, 1080p is a 2K resolution (or "2K resolution family"-resolution) for the same reason 2160p is a 4K resolution; The "K" (K=Kilo=thousand) comes from the approximate horizontal pixel count, 3840x2160=3840=4K, 1920x1080=1920=2K. Just like 5120 × 2880 = 5K, and divide both axis by half and you get 2560x1440, so 1440p is actually 2.5K (same relation as between 4K (2160p) and 2K (1080p), half the pixels per axis).
2021-08-15 19:42
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> 1440p=2K is a very common misconception It's so common, that when you say 2K everyone will automatically assume 1440p. It doesn't matter if you're using The Right Term, when literally every single person misunderstands you
2021-08-15 20:26
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That's exactly what's so annoying about it, the ignorant always think they know what 2K means, but people who actually know can never be sure (could stumble upon someone else who knows what they're talking about by chance, but sadly unlikely).
2021-08-15 20:33
those monitors are very expensive, i'd recommend you just go for a 24" 240/280hz 1080p monitor
2021-08-03 21:21
9 replies
nah got a 27'' 240hz 1080p already. Need the 1440 for rust
2021-08-03 21:27
8 replies
Waiting is probably better choice then. Monitor market is shifting around to put focus on 4k, while next gen gpus next year are going to be monsters based on leaks. So monitor prices are going to shuffle around, 1080p is gonna phase out and 1440p is gonne be the new low end. Or it seems that way to me.
2021-08-03 21:33
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Europe Vallon4
Leaks on 2022 GPUs? Can you link some, all I find are obvious fakes.
2021-08-04 21:29
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Not specific leaks, but that's what tech enthusiasts/journalists that I follow are guessing, based mostly on insider info. On youtube "Moore's Law Is Dead", is the main guy in my eyes to keep track of.
2021-08-04 21:36
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#61
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Europe Vallon4
Ok, thanks.
2021-08-04 21:51
Who cares, when there's people playing csgo at 480 stretched because it's how pros did it on cs1.6
2021-08-04 22:34
3 replies
How could someone aim for headshot with pixels 3+ times larger than enemy heads on screen. Dismissive hyperboles, that I'm not fan of.
2021-08-04 23:07
2 replies
+1
2021-08-11 20:32
a few years ago I played on a shitty laptop which only got 40fps on 640x480. When I changed to my PC I tried playing on 1024x768 and I just couldnt. It didnt work for me. Obviously i adjusted over time but 640x480 the heads are so much bigger XD However the downside is the quality is dog shit, you can make out everything fine on the map but the chat for example is nearly unreadable.
2021-08-12 11:17
bro thousands out here pissed they can't get GPU's, at least you aren't sitting with great cpu placeholder gpu waiting for prices to drop
2021-08-04 20:51
2 replies
nah I wanted the 3080 but got my hands on the 6800 XT so im happy anyway
2021-08-04 21:10
i just bought from ibuypower. built my last 2 pcs but i got placed in evga's queue for 3000 series in december and still haven't gotten an email back so i just full sent on a prebuilt lul
2021-08-13 02:18
Samsung galaxy odyssey 32 Inc curved just got it . Used 60 hz global never been able to scout or awp.... since getting monitor due to smoothness and refresh rate I'm hitting insane headahots.
2021-08-10 13:00
11 replies
hmm, im only finding 144hz 27'' tho :/
2021-08-10 15:32
3 replies
Oops try g7 in search
2021-08-10 15:47
2 replies
neat! Thanks man. You happy with it?
2021-08-11 14:20
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Very very happy , can't wait to try some immersive games. I originally had doubts about it being curved but instantly got blown away. I'll link some clips when back home. I'm not a sniper user but the difference just made me actually a threat with scout and awp
2021-08-11 17:32
why you buy VA monitor wtf
2021-08-12 14:52
6 replies
Unless you're a pro you can't say much tbh ... wad ge on 60hz I'll be ge when you reach le 🤣🤣
2021-08-13 11:27
5 replies
you are probably blind then, but that's ok.
2021-08-13 16:02
4 replies
Blind man better than you, ok for me sad for you
2021-08-13 16:43
3 replies
i mean you must be a bot if you are talking MM ranks unironically
2021-08-13 16:51
2 replies
You use the word bot, and comment about what other people use 🤣 probably a child with the income of a price of string
2021-08-13 20:50
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 truuue
2021-08-13 22:56
I've got an AOC AG273QXP with 1440p resolution and 170Hz refresh rate and it's very good. There's also the Dell S2721DGF and the LG 27GP850; all of these use the same 27'' LG panel and I think they're the best compromise if you want a good 27'' experience but don't want to break the bank.
2021-08-12 15:02
Yeah im gona do same soon
2021-08-03 20:39
3 replies
Planned upgrade from what monitor to which one?
2021-08-03 20:45
2 replies
from 60 to 144 atleast
2021-08-04 21:00
1 reply
For monitor deals in Latvia, other than the s2522hg, gigabyte g24f seems to be great value deal too.
2021-08-04 21:28
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Finland LuverNecky
did u remember to go into your computers monitor settings and changed the 60hz option to 240hz. I myself and many others have not remembered to do that. Just reminding so don't be mad if you have done it. :D
2021-08-03 20:39
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Second thing I did, after setting monitor's ui to very strong overdrive and disabling freesync.
2021-08-03 20:43
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Morocco Snafuuu
this guy wrote an essay describing the circumstances of his decision to buy a monitor as if anyone wants to know. I respect your confidence and i'll be waiting for your next post
2021-08-03 20:40
3 replies
u need to learn what a forum is.
2021-08-13 10:27
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#150
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Morocco Snafuuu
you need to get a fucking life instead of replying to 10 day old posts
2021-08-13 13:00
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#163
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United Kingdom b00ka
chill bro
2021-08-13 16:37
#21
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Poland ethereal0
if it only costs 300 euro it hast bo be horribly shit
2021-08-03 20:57
3 replies
It's AW2521hf display parts put into different model. Solid stand with adjustable height pivot and tilt.
2021-08-03 20:59
1 reply
I have th AW. Solid 240Hz monitor
2021-08-13 16:14
#143
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World DolphinfK
my monitor cost 61 euro and it's amazing, lul
2021-08-13 07:53
you should return it and buy 300x300cm monitor 60hz because more pixels = bigger head = easier to aim = ez game
2021-08-03 21:01
1 reply
I can just squish my head into monitor like I usually do. Eyeballs right on top of crosshair, true 60hz100p experience!
2021-08-03 21:03
i better buy 144hz used monitor and sell it for same price,rather than sit on 60hz... even if its 3months, well im willing aswell buy 240hz
2021-08-03 21:11
2 replies
If csgo is the only game to play, then that sounds like a good plan. For me though, I shifted my focus to playing other games that doesn't require a high refresh rate. Playing lot of minecraft. Sucked still, can't count blocks properly with the 60hz blur.
2021-08-03 21:18
1 reply
True 60hz or 144 for cs:go is mega difference, its like if you dont have 144hz screen you dont wanna play, atleast i feel like that.
2021-08-03 21:18
like gaining new eyeballs
2021-08-03 21:35
From using it for second day, so far what I can tell are 2 things. 1st is that I suck at game, due to the extended break. 240hz doesn't help that much if I don't have moves to take advantage of that. 2nd is the glimpse in what I can do. Before, with 60hz, I recall not being able to take out any targets during movement. But with the new monitor I'm even hitting headshots on targets in motion. I can now actually see the process how someone peeks and the moment when peeker stops. Before with old 60hz I had to use anticipation+ knowledge about angles to narrow down the exact spot at which enemy is going to counterstrafe. Now I have means to counter players whose uses actual skillful movement.
2021-08-04 20:04
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by accident I just before found out that I can actually use awp now. I basically never used it, with the old 60hz monitor, because my performance with it was horrible compared to my rifle skills. Ability to track and hit moving targets is a huge difference for awping.
2021-08-04 20:37
#45
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Canada JC_123
if you have a good GPU or plans to get one, buy 1440p 144-165hz for future proofing))) You monitor can stay with you for a few PCs if you get a good one
2021-08-04 20:41
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I made that conclusion a month ago, seeing how 1440p screens keeps getting cheaper, while 240hz monitors refused to drop in price. However now a single good 240hz1080p monitor did drop in price unexpectedly, so I decided to go with it. Not the best choice maybe, but who knows how many months it will take for RTX 3060/3060 TI to drop to an actually sane price.
2021-08-04 20:52
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#52
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Canada JC_123
yeah and I guess 1080 240hz + eventually something like an IPS 100hz 4K display may be a better setup that will be reasonably available in 1 or 2 more GPU generations.
2021-08-04 20:54
'll upgrade when 1440p at 240Hz becomes the norm.
2021-08-13 16:15
2 replies
if you're just doing that for CSGO you might as well just have a 240hz or 360hz 1080p and a really solid 4K display beside it for everything else
2021-08-16 09:22
1 reply
THat's what I have but I wouldn't mind the extra crispiness you get with a bump in resolution.
2021-08-16 19:28
this is a huge + I also have 60 hz monitor and feel unfair when I know my friends are using 144 hz and 240 it actually matters a lot
2021-08-04 20:42
2 replies
you can boost it to 75hz on 1024 res
2021-08-05 19:16
1 reply
what a fucking boost brother
2021-08-12 23:38
Upgrading from 60hz to 144hz, I never thought about buying a better monitor. 144hz is still pleasing to the eyes and more cost effective. Buy whatever you want, all I'm saying is that I was happy just upgrading from 60 to 144hz before buying a 240hz one, but, to each his own :D
2021-08-04 20:49
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I did think that way last year, was considering getting a 144hz monitor. I put my thoughts about it on hltv, then superappelflap messaged me to give arguments why 240hz would be yet better choice. Iirc in he claimed something along lines that from his experiences 144hz wasn't quite good enough for him, compared to his 240hz monitor.
2021-08-04 21:26
24 replies
Comparing 240hz to 144hz, it's pretty obvious who the winner is. If you want to stay cost effective, I'd say go for 144hz. 240hz, without a doubt, will always be better, but only if you can actually afford one.
2021-08-04 21:47
23 replies
I remembered the main point of conversation, which was difficulty of handling spraydowns/the jerky csgo screenshaking mechanics. How would you gauge difficulty of spraying through your 144hz monitor?
2021-08-05 19:10
22 replies
If you know the spray control you'll be fine. The difference between 60hz and 144hz won't make your spray better. Just practice your spray in death match.
2021-08-05 19:15
21 replies
So you mean you still can't control spray in real time on 144hz?
2021-08-05 19:19
20 replies
If you practice spray control in game, you'll be able to do it in real time regardless of what monitor settings you have.
2021-08-05 19:20
19 replies
The point of controlling spray in real time is so you don't have to necessarily memorize the pattern, so you can just observe behavior of crosshair during spray and keep it vertically aligned with enemy's model. I have to play more to get more clear feedback on this, because I've memorized the patterns of ak/m4 and hard to say how much of it is real time action from me.
2021-08-05 19:26
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I was just fine memorizing recoil recoil on both types of monitors 60hz and 144hz when I've came back from breaks by just looking at them. If you really care about spray control, I'd say just practice in dm, but I digress. You should be fine feeling the spray by looking at it no matter your monitor settings.
2021-08-05 19:26
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you have different idea over what I am asking. By "in real time" I mean reacting to recoil behavior in real time and adjusting your aim in that moment, not just repeating a memorized pattern. At some point it becomes feasible to control recoil in real time and maybe 240hz is around that point and 144hz not so much.
2021-08-05 19:31
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I know exactly what you mean and my last response is a direct response to it. Controlling recoil in game via deathmatch will help 100% with spraying in a faceit or mm game. Deathmatch just helps you feel the recoil without having to worry about the many other aspects of csgo as much.
2021-08-05 19:32
15 replies
To me what I want is fine tuned details for spray, not just to have a successful spray. Otherwise what does it matter, I'd be just another rifler.
2021-08-05 19:35
14 replies
You aren't getting a fine tuned spray just by looking at it. I mean eventually, just not in a reasonable amount of time. And besides, your muscle memory will probably just forget about it if you don't practice spray every day.
2021-08-05 19:36
13 replies
No, the fine tuned details exactly reflects in how smooth the spray looks. The less hz the easier to miss the small details.
2021-08-05 19:39
12 replies
OHHHHHHHH, my apologies lmao. Spray looks 100000000x better on 144hz XD
2021-08-05 19:45
11 replies
Why is this conversation going nowhere? What is that I'm failing to convey?
2021-08-05 19:47
10 replies
tl;dr 240hz > 144hz > 60hz price is always a factor
2021-08-05 19:48
9 replies
That's a simplification, not the meat of the point. Yes 240hz more frames, but how much fps/hz is needed to attain fine tuned control of spray. You're just making point back that 60hz is enough if you memorize it.
2021-08-05 19:53
8 replies
60hz is enough if you memorize it. 144 and 240hz just make it feel a lot better.
2021-08-05 19:54
7 replies
Oh my God. So what you're saying I must be delusional in me having problems controlling spray when on my old 60hz monitor. I wonder why it's so much easier now, 240hz placebo I guess
2021-08-05 19:58
6 replies
You can control 60hz spray nicely, but having a 144hz and 240hz monitor makes your spray feel a lot better.
2021-08-05 19:59
5 replies
Possibility and practicability are 2 different things.
2021-08-05 19:59
4 replies
Memorization and feeling are two different things. You can memorize a spray and do fine with it, but being able to feel your spray makes it a lot nicer.
2021-08-05 20:00
3 replies
Again, what are you on about? Let's step back, make your point about spray control. I feel like I'm missing some concept from you.
2021-08-05 20:03
2 replies
It is about spray control. I don't know how to phrase it another way, sorry.
2021-08-05 20:03
#121
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Brazil Bactuga
You do get a advantage above the spray in 144/240 hz above 60, EVERYTHING you do, including movement, pre-aim, awp, taps, crosshair placement etc gets better with a better monitor, i probably spent 1 hour, from like 1800 hours in CSGO in practicing recoil, i just react to it like you said, so it obviously helps.
2021-08-12 11:03
From what I understand, spray control to you seems to be based entirely on memory, no need to actually see it play out in real time. It's just a feeling, did I get it right?
2021-08-05 20:07
6 replies
Pretty much, that's how it is for me when I play.
2021-08-05 20:09
5 replies
So let's assume it's true. Let's forget my point about controlling recoil in real time, I might be wrong about that part. Question. How did you obtain that memory/skill?
2021-08-05 20:14
4 replies
Experience, practice on dm helps out a lot. Nothing beats out experience, it's the hard truth. Might I add that having a 144hz or 240hz monitor will make csgo so much more enjoyable to play just because it feels better.
2021-08-05 20:16
3 replies
Why though you would necessarily improve through experience? Why not let's say instead develop wrong recoil control through practice? Nothing is easier than making bad habits.
2021-08-05 20:17
2 replies
Then pair it with workshop maps, dm, and in game experience.
2021-08-06 00:38
1 reply
Again, dancing around the point. Have to go back and try from different angle again. I mean specifically, what is the mechanic that causes you to learn recoil mechanics. So you mean it isn't the immediate visual feedback on as in what you see as result of you controlling recoil in game? It's instead some kind of magic detached from your actual in game performance itself?
2021-08-06 05:49
i got a 60hz monitor and wish i could have a 144hz
2021-08-05 19:19
1 reply
reasons why you can't?
2021-08-13 16:17
Waut for some more time and get 360hz
2021-08-05 19:37
4 replies
1000 hz
2021-08-11 14:22
#110
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Turkey Herbx
8500 turkish liras for one 360hz minimum wage is 2700 tl 4 months to get one fuck man no chance
2021-08-11 17:52
2 replies
Damn Ok my bad Get 240 But tbf 4months can lead you to future proof
2021-08-12 07:17
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#120
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Turkey Herbx
i have acer nitro ed270x 27” 240hz veri gud for me
2021-08-12 10:55
lol its ltrly so big fkin difference gl
2021-08-11 20:33
#115
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Asia M@GNU5
bruh I reached MGE with just 60hz
2021-08-12 07:25
3 replies
who says all 60hz monitors are the same? I thought that my old 60hz monitor had some weird input delay or something. Either way, whichever the case, I was unable to become able to track moving targets, only was able to play by anticipating where enemy would counterstrafe. Whenever I was able to get a kill or not was dependant on enemy's movement.
2021-08-13 16:21
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#161
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Asia M@GNU5
I didn't say that?
2021-08-13 16:34
1 reply
In past this was the counterpoint against me complaining about me being bad due to being limited by 60hz monitor. The idea that if I can't get a certain rank with 60hz then higher refresh rate monitor would not help much, the people that have attained high ranks using 60hz.
2021-08-13 16:41
144hz is pretty cost effective if you play games other than cs. 240hz if you only play cs, valolrant, siege
2021-08-12 07:27
#117
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Poland Aiko_
Im playing on 60hz 10yo monitor and it is 5:4 not 16:9 (XD) and when i had shitty pc I got around 40fps and get LEM after upgrading pc I got 150fps and get lvl8 on faceit and I feel the same like you, I can't get higher lvl cuz my monitor reaction time is pretty shit
2021-08-12 07:45
#118
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Latvia Zigis
Is pr0n also playing more smoothly? :D
2021-08-12 07:49
1 reply
Link me some 240fps pr0n and I'll check.
2021-08-13 16:16
#122
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Brazil Bactuga
If you are playing in a decent level (Faceit 10) and is trying to be a pro you should do it, but if you are playing for fun/casual, you should just focus on getting other stuff like upgrades to your pc etc etc.
2021-08-12 11:04
2 replies
Do what, buy an overpriced 240hz+ 1080p monitor? You mean should have just bought 144hz one? Didn't buy overpriced, but one for decent cost. I agree there are other things as or more important than just monitor. Good mouse, headphones, keyboard, ssd, other things that improves experience. But so what, I already have it all prior to buying the monitor, except for GPU. Ironically the inability to buy new GPU means I'm stuck at playin games like cs go and minecraft. Where I can reach 240 fps with my old gtx 1050.
2021-08-13 17:43
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#174
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Brazil Bactuga
Thats exactly why i said ''if you are trying to be pro, and is at a high level already you should do it'', if you want to play other games you can just buy a new GPU those kind of stuff, but for CSGO Competitive, if you dont have a 244hz you are just gonna be dead without even seeing the guy, 240hz you dont notice too much when you first get it, but if you get a 240hz then go back to 144hz you wont be able to play on it again, its a big difference, it basically makes everything you do in CSGO Better, your aim, your movement, crosshair placement, reaction time, reflexes etc
2021-08-13 22:22
#124
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India slavloli
checkout 27” UltraGear FHD IPS 1ms 240Hz G-Sync(27GN750-B) ; IPS monitor with 240hz at a good price I use it and it's pretty good
2021-08-12 11:12
4 replies
Didn't consider it, because by numbers it seems to be too large for 1080p. Don't want to have pixelated screen. But pretty cheap too, yes.
2021-08-13 16:25
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#177
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India slavloli
I use it, and I notice zero pixelation unless your eyes are literally glued to the screen Do you own it? Or are you just guessing?
2021-08-15 18:38
2 replies
No, it's just smart decision to not spend my cash on something I might regret. I recommended friend to buy aoc 24g2, and it seemed already pretty large for 1080p monitor. With this 25'' new one I got for myself, I start to see pixels from around 40cm distance, which is just 20cm closer from where I usually look at it from. edit: oh, and I can see jagged edges on my cursor from where I stand. Have to lean back to like 1m to fix that.
2021-08-15 19:15
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#191
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India slavloli
I sit at around 50 cm, and I see no pixels I stream content and play games at 1080p, and pixelation never bothered me. And the colors are spectacular, I can enjoy any content in its native form, Thanks to IPS :)
2021-08-16 13:34
#139
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Brazil Brunoow13
/closed
2021-08-13 02:05
ugh thats depressing that in eastern Baltic 60hz is still around. Some 2010 shit
2021-08-13 02:06
3 replies
baltics is low tier cs, i join to play in comunity server i havent played long ago, my rank was global there, all kids screaming that my ears hurt :/ they scream omg chiter chiter call admin fast i made 0 kills that far
2021-08-13 10:30
why is it depressing?
2021-08-13 16:13
1 reply
threshold is 120hz, with that you can keep up with everyone even with 300+ hz.
2021-08-13 20:04
it didnt make a big difference to me and to kliksphilip. But kliksphilip explained once that when he went BACK to 60 hz it was AWFUL. So maybe its like a reverse-benefit type of thing. I dont know though. Strange.
2021-08-13 16:29
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The major noticable difference is capacity to track mobile targets on screen. With 60hz, I was basically given up on having any expectations to kill moving enemies. Majority of deaths came from when opponent was moving. More so, when enemy crouches it becomes impossible, don't recall ever getting a single kill against enemy who suddenly crouched while peeking. And I was entirely trash with awp and any sniper. Those problems that have suddenly disappeared with this new 240hz monitor. Also keeping discipline on spray control was a huge pain, because it's so hard to keep check on performing spray correctly on 60hz monitor. Instead I was using image training externally from cs to practice drawing recoil patterns.
2021-08-13 16:46
wää wää
2021-08-15 19:11
I'm waiting for 1024hz. Will keep my 60hz monitor until it's out for sale
2021-08-15 20:35
too much money for me :(
2021-08-16 09:24
1 reply
i think 140hz is becoming cheaper and cheaper, and that's already an improvement
2021-08-16 09:27
i went from 60 to 140, not even the biggest difference but also a decent computer that has good fps when having high graphics, the difference is hugggghe
2021-08-16 09:26
1080p ew
2021-08-16 09:37
i bought a used alienware 240hz for €200. Im very happy with it
2021-08-16 09:39
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