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why is team spirit not better?
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Sweden EntonXD 
i fully see them being above teams such as vitality, mousesports, big and maybe even virtus pro they hit top 5, but then just slowly fell off. they have all the pieces mir - one of the best riflers in CIS and CONSISTENT. Hes been better than electronic by margin the past 12 months. degster -have been inconsistent in the past but still among the best awpers in CIS. chopper have shown he brings alot of smarts in the team, even if their leadership looks lacking on less puggy maps. a decent support sdy and magixx are the questionmarks. magixx entries alot even though it looks like mir does just as much work while having the stats behind him, but he plays better roles too.
2021-08-05 23:54
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I haven't watched alotnof them but they felt like they had a really good run for a while, good morale, momentum etc, not saying it's a fluke but I think they need better talent, at this level it really is hard to stay at the top
2021-08-05 23:56
all frags no tactics
2021-08-05 23:57
#3
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France evelynski
They can shoot heads very well but the teamplay/reactions/adaptations must be lacking. No wonder they are so good on D2.
2021-08-05 23:57
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Well said.
2021-08-06 00:09
#33
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Asia M@GNU5
D2 is a clusterfuck for individual skill
2021-08-06 01:41
that's the thing i also dont understand they have great roster, great stuff but they always poop in pants on important events idk why maybe because of lack of experience
2021-08-05 23:58
cause other teams do it all better
2021-08-05 23:58
I was asking myself the same question many times. It's not a problem relating to players. The thing is, they have all components to become a stable T1 team, that's my personal opinion, even though my flair checks out. Magixx is so underrated at this point. He usually puts up a decent numbers while playing not the most favourable roles/positions on certain maps. He can't release his full potential due to role clash. In my opinion, he needs to be given more freedom to work with. He likes playing aggressively, so if you put him passively, he'll not perform that well most of the time. It's tough for him to open the round with an insane entry-frag just because of the fact that mir loves getting openings, degster also is a great example of doing such a thing despite being an awper. Coming back to the main topic of this thread, they have issues with closing games out and issues in terms of overall preparation. They're playing simple cs and always when the particular game is being played longer than expected they seem to run out of strats. They just need to exceed their stratbook and stop choking in the most important moments. They lost so many opportunities this year and even nafany said if they used all chances, they would have been even in Gambit's shoes (A little bit of exaggeration - however, I need to admit that they would have been in a different place if they used at least half of lost prospects)...
2021-08-06 00:07
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I think one of there main thing is they seem to be really puggy they don't have any great strats to pull out when they need to win a round I think if they got a new Igl instead of chopper which would be hard they're isn't many good cis igls or maybe even a coach like blad3 would really help them
2021-08-06 01:03
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Yeah, they're FPL gods, so maybe puggy habits are affecting them adversely? :P
2021-08-06 01:03
Role clash between mir and magixx... both insane , but both want to go for entries... also magixx shit anchor , he needs to be more on the middle of the map , always trying to make plays... but then if you change him , you have to put mir anchoring , which he is not good also... so its fucked up.. also degster very inexperienced , he does alot of bad moves , overpeeking etc, no very smart rotations sometimes.... basicly to much skill , but bad synergy and role clash faze 2.0 I would love magixx to go to VP instead of yekindar.
2021-08-06 00:20
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Well said, yet again. I was getting into a discussion with you about magixx/Spirit a few times. Definitely, you're right.
2021-08-06 00:21
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Yeah , i think i remember we talked the same exact thing other times. Definitly this change would make VP more structured, they are relying to much on yekindar opening sucess to win a round. And yekindar maybe a good anchor , idk don´t watch to much ct-sides of him
2021-08-06 00:25
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Yeah, however I wouldn't like to exchange magixx with YEKINDAR since magixx has probably been my favourite player in Spirit so in my case it would be heartbreaking even though he deserves to play a better spots/roles...
2021-08-06 00:28
Why would VP kick their best player though
2021-08-07 20:12
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Best player? lul He does so many mistakes by not having alot of experience. Just because he frags while being agresssive does´t mean he is the best player lmao Even nafany who IGL´s while doing the same , does the job 2x better.
2021-08-07 20:14
#10
Deffo | 
Russia CYETA
same with forze, that roster should be in top 10 easily
2021-08-06 00:25
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Top 10 is asking too much, Zorte and Almazer aren't that good and Kensi isn't even top 5 CIS awper.
2021-08-06 00:55
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But KENSI isn't an awper.
2021-08-06 01:00
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Ah my bad, I mixed up both Zorte and Kensi
2021-08-06 01:14
#25
Deffo | 
Russia CYETA
0/8 you don't even know who their awper is, and zorte has best stats together with fl1t
2021-08-06 01:05
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#26 And he may have good stats but as I implied, not even the top 5 awp in his own region. Little his own fault cause CIS got other beasts.
2021-08-06 01:15
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Deffo | 
Russia CYETA
hes still insane though, plays support like fallen and still frags out, cant really compare to other awpers because very different playstyle
2021-08-06 08:56
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+1 just like iDISBALANCE I would say
2021-08-06 17:51
electronic past 3 months has been better than mir easily
2021-08-06 00:27
#14
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Australia Kuunto
They just have hard tournament runs and never actually go against easy teams
2021-08-06 00:34
#15
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Panama bakedcs
Magisk sucky, degster literally doesnt have a brain, chopper washed unfortunately he was a beast.
2021-08-06 00:35
Guys make so many mistakes as a team. They chocked about 8 rounds in single map against Vitality and still made it close. I think if not that many mistakes, they would be decent top 10 team, they should consider changing coach. Kane is free btw
2021-08-06 00:48
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The thing is all games during the IEM were winnable. They made too many mistakes against Vitality and especially Heroic which resulted in losing both series (Ancient vs Heroic still hurts...) They messed the veto up against FaZe, huge props to karrigan tho on having balls and leaving Vertigo as a decider, that was a move which allowed FaZe to win a whole series.
2021-08-06 00:58
Yeah, new coach could really help. Where is lmbt btw?
2021-08-06 01:40
They choke, alot. They struggle to close maps and have a habit of giving away advantages. But the names on the team and their talents are Top 5 worthy for sure, better than VP on paper at least.
2021-08-06 00:57
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+1
2021-08-06 00:59
Only frags, lack map pool and the mid round calls were mediocre. Teams watched their demos. Now they changed 2nd coach and before softik arrived they were top 5
2021-08-06 01:01
#28
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Estonia Eduzera
degster is a skilled awper but he is so dumb like s1mple in 2015-16 chopper so inconsistent: a god and following map a bot sdy and mir: nothing about magixx: much inconsistent but very skilled, sometimes he can destroy a match
2021-08-06 01:17
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I think sometimes he has too much ego with awp,repeeks and dies. But sometimes miracle happens and 4k 3 noscope fragmovie on
2021-08-06 01:20
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Yeah, that's another issue. He just needs to be a little more passive and he needs to stop overpeeking, his overpeeks are just unnecessary in many cases.
2021-08-06 01:29
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#31
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Estonia Eduzera
+1
2021-08-06 01:34
mir the best rifler and in the mf world imo degster can be good but really dumb chopper inconsistent af + they have really good players like mir and magixx but their team play isn't the greatest
2021-08-07 20:09
Guys, magixx is just 18 years old according to HLTV. And degster 20. Let them get experience.
2021-08-08 18:40
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