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TOP 5 IGLS EVER
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Latvia YungPan666 
1. gla1ve 2. Zeus 3. Xizt 4. karrigan 5. FalleN
2021-09-02 15:24
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karrigan gla1ve dont car
2021-09-02 15:24
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Karrigan kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk Fallen and Zeus >>>>>>>>>>>. Abiss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karrigan
2021-09-02 15:30
26 replies
Fallen hasnt done much since 2018, Zeus was good then bad then gambit fluke then underperformed with a lineup with 2 top 5 players.
2021-09-02 15:40
19 replies
And Karrigan is bad almost his whole career Imagine considering the last 2 years good for Karrigan
2021-09-02 15:42
7 replies
0/8 btw fallen had the same core his whole career (when he was winning)
2021-09-02 15:42
2 replies
so did gla1ve????
2021-09-02 17:33
1 reply
thats why he is under carrygan
2021-09-02 17:38
#213
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Portugal jsousa941
if you going by individual ye he is bad but if going for igl and how good he was leading the team he is top 5 igl
2021-09-02 19:12
#222
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Canada Femtal
Karrigan top 2 2020 with mousesports Fallen?????
2021-09-02 19:36
2 replies
1 title Awesome year for Karrigan
2021-09-03 04:02
Fallen top 2 player in 2016,Karrigan where?
2021-09-03 12:19
He took an splited MIBR roster to an major semifinal in 2019
2021-09-02 15:44
3 replies
beating coL isnt that much of an achievement men. they also lost 16-0 to ast that tournament lul and lost to tylul
2021-09-02 15:47
2 replies
wrong tournament bro
2021-09-02 15:48
1 reply
oh lmao i forgot mb btw RNG was the worst team in that top 8 so still a favourable draw. also C9 lost 16-0 to ast lul
2021-09-02 15:51
how can you proove that Gambit Major win was fluke? You can't cuz Zeus left after they won it, 4/5 arent 5/5 roster, so everyone matters, coach included ofc! If you say how he couldn't play well with 2 top 5 players, tell me then how Karrigan can't do anything with Niko Guardian and top1 player and double major winner in their team? you can't underrate Zeus achievements and his contribution btw Zeus 5 majors(4 of which in a row) > Karrigan 0 major
2021-09-02 16:27
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#270
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Denmark psntsn89
Idk what you mean by "btw Zeus 5 majors(4 of which in a row) > Karrigan 0 major". Zeus has only won 1 major... Played 15, Karrigan has played 13, so no idea what that sentence means.
2021-09-03 12:10
2 replies
Zeus as Karrigan started their career in cs 1.6, where Zeus won 4 in a row biggest tournamets, that count as majors in cs 1.6 so overall in his career he got 5 majors 4 majors in a row is very difficult achievement, noone team except Na`Vi cs 1.6 roster
2021-09-03 17:13
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#287
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Denmark psntsn89
Oh ok, thanks for info. HLTV doesn't count cs 1.6 majors so couldn't see those.
2021-09-03 20:33
and the question is for all time no past 2 years
2021-09-02 19:41
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fallen was good 16-18 and a bit of 19 not that much really. karrigan since TSM days so like 2014 gla1ve was decent in the past then igled the goat team
2021-09-02 19:52
That is why the word "EVER" as used. Fallen has done a lot and in some events he is a star player even being the IGL.
2021-09-03 13:46
#47
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Brazil diGzN
no. any team karrigan joined has improved. most recently faze 2017, mouz 2019 and now faze again
2021-09-02 15:50
5 replies
oK, BUT he i still a loser. Never got a Major and most of tournaments his teams get out befor coming to semis. He is specialis on being kicked on group stages.
2021-09-02 15:52
4 replies
#64
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Brazil diGzN
basically what you are saying: ''yeah, karrigan is an awsome igl, but i don't care lol''
2021-09-02 15:57
2 replies
+1 haha yeah he is a great igl, but i hate him, so he sucks
2021-09-02 19:55
1 reply
Where are u reading that? He is a loser specialist in being kicked on group stages.
2021-09-03 04:03
such a baiter lol
2021-09-02 19:35
#28
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Czech Republic TECHNICKER
+1111
2021-09-02 15:42
why karrigan higher?
2021-09-02 16:12
5 replies
There are brains that are beyond human comprehension.
2021-09-02 16:45
4 replies
you mean people?
2021-09-02 16:48
3 replies
No, this person in particular.
2021-09-02 16:49
2 replies
and his brain? makes sense i guess
2021-09-02 16:53
1 reply
Yes
2021-09-02 17:21
Bad luck? xD
2021-09-02 19:12
#2
FalleN | 
Portugal 3dent
Xizt 3rd lol
2021-09-02 15:25
2 replies
Yeah, despite my flair that is complete nonsense.
2021-09-02 15:36
#77
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Sweden Skunk2
never pick cache against me motherfucker
2021-09-02 16:09
1. gla1ve 2. Karrigan 3. FalleN/Zeus 4. Zeus/FalleN 5. Pronax/Happy maybe?
2021-09-02 15:25
19 replies
+1
2021-09-02 15:32
+1
2021-09-02 15:43
#99
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United States TrashPanda
+1
2021-09-02 16:19
#110
TACO | 
Brazil DvD__
+1
2021-09-02 16:21
Why Karrigan above FalleN and Zeus? after Gla1ve, no IGL has won more and picked higher than FalleN, guy was #2 and #6 2 years in order, won everything in CS twice.. and Zeus lead NaVi in deep runs at majors also won tier 1 trophys, and even prof his IGL leading a youngster team to win a Major.
2021-09-02 16:26
2 replies
>dosia andren and mou >youngster team
2021-09-03 12:13
1 reply
true lmao but i mean they was youngster in international experience
2021-09-03 17:06
fallen above karrigan.
2021-09-02 16:40
8 replies
#230
ropz | 
United States Goob
fallen had success with one team
2021-09-02 19:55
7 replies
Karrigan has not won a major, Katowice or cologne with any squad. Also, he always had insane team and still choked in most important tournaments. Bringing every team to top 5 is not equal to winning the above mentioned tournaments. Karrigan also got kicked from Astralis and then Faze. And karrigan is awful fragger.
2021-09-02 20:36
6 replies
#253
ropz | 
United States Goob
you’re right if anything it’s more impressive than winning some tournaments, and karrigan does it again and again year after year. and wow simple was kicked from teams too does that mean he is worse?
2021-09-02 22:02
5 replies
S1mple was only kicked once because of some Racisms comments in Hellraisers and he was very young. And if karrigan is so good why does not he win a Major or Katowice or Cologne? Don't tell me he didn't had good team or players. I am not saying he is bad but FalleN is better in terms of trophy cabinet and individual fragging prowess.
2021-09-02 22:25
4 replies
#258
ropz | 
United States Goob
what about liquid lol
2021-09-02 22:39
3 replies
man has had less than a year on the team which has just been hit hard by covid bc of NA/EU divide. what fallen is doing now doesnt even matter bc he has been so much better on LG/SK/MIBR than karrigan has ever been. 2 colognes, 2 majors, 1 sydney, #2 and #6, 1 border-line era, another somewhat recognized era, 2 epls, and not to mention his contributions to the brazilian cs go scene karrigan has 0 colognes, 0 majors, 1 sydney, no hltv top 20s, no eras, not nearly as much inspiration to the danish scene. The only thing that he has done is a good run with tsm/astralis(which ended up winning 0 majors then picking up gla1ve and winning 4), a good run with faze(where they choked a major but they won a new york and a sydney so i'll give him that), a decent run with mouz(where they won epl, summit, ice challenge, and a 2nd at epl s11 eu and then they fell off), and 1 semifinal run with faze at iem cologne karrigan hasn't won anything meaningful aside from an epl and an iem sydney you might go on to say that karrigan has igl'd more teams to the top, but teams are judged by their success, and karrigan has no big success
2021-09-03 03:12
2 replies
#263
ropz | 
United States Goob
no majors last 2 years so mouz era would’ve happened if we stayed on lan
2021-09-03 03:35
1 reply
doubt it would've lasted 6 months considering that navi was beginning to start looking really good at the very back end of LAN(1st in blast groups and 1st at katowice) while mouz didnt even make playoffs at katowice, losing to a surging g2 and 100t
2021-09-03 04:40
#194
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France poulpup
+1 but I would have put 3 fallen 4 zeus/happy 5 zeus/happy as happy and zeus were both fluke winner majors and karrigan lower because he came back to faze so he isn't as smart as he looks so - karrigan + pronax
2021-09-02 18:31
1 reply
wouldnt say that neither of Happys majors win were flukes and no matter that karrigan had a really bad start in FaZe the second time around it doesnt take away all his success and all the great teams he has led in the past
2021-09-02 18:42
+1
2021-09-02 21:49
1. gla1ve 2. karrigan 3. pronax rest irrelevant /closed
2021-09-02 15:27
1 reply
name checks out
2021-09-02 15:30
If you use the metric of purely achievements. It has to be: 1. Gla1ve 2. Pronax 3. FalleN 4. Karrigan/Zeus? – Karrigan hasn't won the major yet but given the fact that he's been able to win tournaments with multiple teams is astounding and a rarity. Zeus won a major with Gambit which is something that has to be respected.
2021-09-02 15:27
8 replies
Pronax 2nd LUL
2021-09-02 16:15
7 replies
Like I said in terms of achievement. He won 3 majors. And the fourth major he could've won he was in the grand finals placing 2nd in the tournament.
2021-09-02 16:17
6 replies
He obviously didn’t watch CS back then.
2021-09-02 16:19
1 reply
Ye, he doesn't understand how dominant Fnatic was during their time. Obviously SK/LG dethroned them later. But like I emphasised above, in terms of pure achievement as the metric to measure whose the best IGL, Pronax has to be the second one, but if FalleN wins a major under the Liquid banner then I think I'd have to put FalleN above Pronax given the fact that he's able to win 3 majors under a time which is more competitive than Fnatic's dominance.
2021-09-02 16:21
1 Achievement in 2019 value as 2 in 2014 Same with majors
2021-09-02 16:26
3 replies
That's your opinion. A major is still a major. You definitely didn't watch Fnatic's dominance.
2021-09-02 16:28
1 reply
1000000$ prize pool major > 250000$ prize pool major
2021-09-02 17:23
Russian brain
2021-09-03 02:55
1. gla1ve 2. fallen 3. zeus 4. pronax 5. happy
2021-09-02 15:29
2 replies
#83
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
+1
2021-09-02 16:13
+1
2021-09-02 18:58
#9
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Germany Xxrorikx
gob b ?????
2021-09-02 15:30
4 replies
#43
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Germany Nachofish
hard to respect him after he turned down coaching or manegement to play valorant
2021-09-02 15:49
1 reply
+1 VA LUL RANT
2021-09-02 16:22
what has he won?
2021-09-02 16:22
1 reply
My heart
2021-09-02 18:31
1. gla1ve 2. karrigan ?. Aleksib rest who cares
2021-09-02 15:30
4 replies
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2021-09-02 16:01
did u start watching csgo 2019?
2021-09-02 16:55
1 reply
no, I started watching in 2021 blast
2021-09-02 16:56
pronax? fallen? your skull is empty like karrigan's major trophy cabinet
2021-09-03 12:23
1. gla1ve 2. FalleN 3. Karrigan 4. Zeus 5. Pronax
2021-09-02 15:31
1 reply
Good list.
2021-09-02 16:01
1. Xantares 2. NiKo 3. MaJ3r 4. Booml4 5. Glaive
2021-09-02 15:31
3 replies
You hate yourself?
2021-09-02 16:20
1 reply
cmon, this doesnt even qualify as a bait. but yes
2021-09-02 16:21
#147
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Turkey TheTurks!
+1, this can be the only unbiased comment in the whole thread
2021-09-02 16:35
1. gla1ve 2. karrigan 3. FalleN 4. cadiaN 5. blameF
2021-09-02 15:32
30 replies
blameF kkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2021-09-02 16:02
29 replies
achieved more than fallen since 2017 kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2021-09-02 16:04
28 replies
I opened blameF's stats here, he has won throughout his career a Blast Premier Spring 2020 Europe Finals.
2021-09-02 16:13
27 replies
and what did Fallen win since 2017?
2021-09-02 16:14
26 replies
Where did I quote FalleN? There are several better igls than this baiter called blameF. Boombl4 etc.
2021-09-02 16:17
25 replies
blameF is individually much better than Fallen and a much better caller since fallen havent been able to win a trophy for the past 4 years
2021-09-02 16:18
24 replies
I’m terms of achievements. Blame hasn’t done shit to be even in the conversation wtf
2021-09-02 16:20
4 replies
he has done more than Fallen since 2017 by winning blast premier spring finals
2021-09-02 16:21
+1
2021-09-02 16:21
This guy is bizarre, I don't know how I'm responding to this weird being, I'll stop responding if I don't stay the same.
2021-09-02 16:22
1 reply
peanut brain brazilians are acting up on HLTV again since Liquid with 1 brazilian player won a group stage online match KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
2021-09-02 16:23
The guy is still citing FalleN, and I didn't even mention him in that context. As I said, there are several better igls than baitF, boombl4, etc.
2021-09-02 16:21
18 replies
blamef >>> Fallen since 2017, that's just a fact And stop saying "citing" and "quoting" and learn basic english u absolute fucking moron
2021-09-02 16:22
17 replies
i mean, the topic are about all times right? not "best IGL after 2017 to now" and in all times terms BlameF well.. there's no chair to him in a table with Gla1ve and FalleN.. sry
2021-09-02 16:32
16 replies
If we're talking all time then Xizt, Karrigan and Pronax are all waaay above Fallen who havent achieved anything outside the 1 team he had succes with for a very limited time period. Don't put glaive and Fallens name together, those 2 can never be compared lmfao
2021-09-02 16:35
14 replies
bruh, you know that FalleN has won more trophys than everyone but Gla1ve in your list right? also FalleN got #2 at his peak. i dont think any other IGL made it.
2021-09-02 16:41
13 replies
bruh he literally have not LMFAO. Fallen 11 trophies + 2 majors hltv.org/player/2023/fallen#tab-trophies.. Pronax 10 trophies + 3 majors hltv.org/player/41/pronax#tab-trophiesBo.. Xizt 23 trophies + 1 major hltv.org/player/884/xizt#tab-trophiesBox Karrigan 16 trophies hltv.org/player/429/karrigan#tab-trophie.. And as i said Fallen have only had succes with one team in his entire career, while the others have had succes with several teams. Individual ranking doesn't make a good IGL.
2021-09-02 16:41
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Fair enough, Pronax are equal but +1 major, Xizt like plent of trophys but less major, and Karrigan.. bruh, guy has being consistent in a high lvl but has choked in so many crucial moments that he dsnt achivied yet the greatness to be along those names in my opinion. but none of them peak higher in individuals skills, that's why i think FalleN and Gla1ve are the best's ever. Btw what you mean "only" had succes with one team? i mean wtf, is that matters? He had success back in Brazil with multiple line up's and built that team wich ended best in the world. it look's like you are trying to bellitle his achievements and greatness
2021-09-02 16:49
11 replies
Karrigan have won t1 trophies with more teams than any other IGL. He alone was one out of 5 in teams, if you blame him for the loses of his team alone, then i guess i should blame Fallen for how awful mibr was with Fallen as well right? Also the fact that he has remained capable of winning t1 trophies since 2014 shows he is able to adapt to changing metas which a lot of IGL's have failed to do. As i said individual skill doesn't mean you're a good IGL, if that was the case blameF was the best IGL last year since he was the highest rated IGL. It matters since it shows you can lead different types of lineups with different players. That's what's being a good leader is. For all we know SK/LG was a success because of coldzera, Fer or Taco. I'm not belittling anyone, i'm giving you a reality check. Brazilians seems completely delusional when it comes to any1 from your own country, you mention him as a top2 IGL OVERALL which he just isnt, that doesn't mean he wasnt a good IGL but not top2
2021-09-02 16:56
10 replies
Bruh what? LG SK just get togethers because of FalleN what are u talking about, Coldzera was nobody as Fer and Taco until they started to play with FalleN, and under hes lead they build an ERA something that Karrigan dream about yet youtube.com/watch?v=J3brp6Srp6M
2021-09-02 18:52
9 replies
an "era" where they ended up becoming irrelevant losing to tier4 european teams that lead to them finally disbanding LOL. Karrigan have remained at the top scene with several teams and didnt drop off a cliff just because of 1.5 year with succes. We have yet to see Fallen lead any other team with success
2021-09-02 18:53
8 replies
Like all the top teams from two years ago, hater gonna hate, see TL playing today shut up your *****
2021-09-02 21:54
6 replies
relevant for 1.5 years and now thinking ur relevant in CS:GO LMFAO. Ur scene is fucking garbage so stfu
2021-09-02 21:56
5 replies
Now that astralis is over, welcome to the garbage too LMAO I know this story well.
2021-09-02 22:00
4 replies
Astralis was the best team of the year as late as 2020. My country has more players in top20 than any1 else, don't compare ur trash scene to mine k? thx
2021-09-02 22:00
3 replies
Yeah man "was", will never be print this HAHAHHAHA dont cry. We already had the Brazilian era, the Danish era ended in 2021 and now we will have the Russian era... But rest assured, device will have other opportunities to be overshadowed by the fallen. BYE
2021-09-02 22:05
2 replies
Fallen been overshadowed by CPH Flames LOL, no trophies since 2017 go away
2021-09-02 22:06
1 reply
i mean, old NIP won nothing since 2016 or below and they are still legends, same for VP, Fnatic, SK and soon Astralis none gonna be forever the best bruh, what matter's in the end its what they actually had done at their peak.
2021-09-03 17:12
Yes an era wich had over earlier than MIBR times, every legendary team will fall at some time #281 "Karrigan have remained at the top scene with several teams and didnt drop off a cliff just because of 1.5 year with succes." Yes he remained on top scene just as FalleN, but without rule the CSGO scene, btw great player i like himl, just that your arg wich is bad. "We have yet to see Fallen lead any other team with success" Gla1ve had succes with Astralis only, same for Pronax and Fnatic, Xizt and NIP... so all of them need to.. why FalleN and Gla1ve need to win everything again ? they already had done it. Arg denied sry stop being hater, open your eyes my HLTV fellow
2021-09-03 17:21
Yeah, I put blameF in to make a sandwich 2+1+2 - a lovely brazilian between danes ;)
2021-09-02 20:27
#14
i am | 
Finland iBait
did y'all miss the last 4 years of fallen's career?
2021-09-02 15:32
11 replies
Wdym?
2021-09-02 15:34
3 replies
#25
i am | 
Finland iBait
there's no chance he's a top 3 igl mate
2021-09-02 15:38
2 replies
I'm not arguing here, but it seems like he makes some pretty good calls, so why not?
2021-09-02 15:41
1 reply
#165
i am | 
Finland iBait
his only good call in the last 4 years was letting mibr disband
2021-09-02 16:47
nt fan of snake allu
2021-09-02 15:35
2 replies
#22
i am | 
Finland iBait
>Fan of teams >HAVU >OG >GORILLAZ bruh
2021-09-02 15:37
1 reply
allu best player on gorrilaz
2021-09-02 18:30
#36
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Brazil SkirlsEx37
Did you miss the first 4 years of Fallen's career?
2021-09-02 15:45
3 replies
+1
2021-09-02 16:26
#167
i am | 
Finland iBait
You mean the 2 good years when he had the best player and the best entry fragger in his team
2021-09-02 16:48
1 reply
2 entire years of Fallen's domination... LG/SK era just lose to Astralis era and that true, you like it or not
2021-09-02 20:37
Ex6tenz?
2021-09-02 15:33
1 reply
#38
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France IRVINGx9
+1
2021-09-02 15:48
xzist top 5 igl axaaxaxaxa he had the 3 top 5 players in the world had no tactics and playd in the worst era of cs
2021-09-02 15:36
#21
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Europe elefiveS
gla1ve pronax zeus fallen karrigan seangares
2021-09-02 15:37
1 reply
Nitro > Tarik > seangares lol
2021-09-02 16:21
You said ever so I'll include all the versions 1.TaZ 2.Zeus 3.Gla1ve 4.Fallen 5.Karrigan or Ex6tenz
2021-09-02 15:37
5 replies
Name checks out
2021-09-02 16:21
4 replies
That's all you've got
2021-09-02 16:28
3 replies
Still checks out
2021-09-02 16:29
2 replies
Ok
2021-09-02 16:29
#264
ropz | 
United States Goob
cure him wtf
2021-09-03 03:46
FalleN, Zeus, TaZ, gla1ve, Cadian
2021-09-02 15:37
2 replies
cadian? nt
2021-09-02 16:16
1 reply
+1
2021-09-02 16:27
#32
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Poland Astoner55
1. gla1ve 2. FalleN 3. Zeus 4. Karrigan 5. Pronax
2021-09-02 15:43
1 reply
+1
2021-09-02 19:01
1. gla1ve 2. Two-Face Toledo 3. Zeus 4. Others
2021-09-02 15:45
Imagine thinking that Zeus, Karrigan (That doesn't have any major) and Xizt is better than FalleN. The correct list that follows the TRUTH would be, 1- gla1ve (the best igl in the entire history of cs go) 2- FalleN the second best igl in the history of cs go (which was top 2 hltv being an igl), 3- Zeus 4 - Xizt 5- Karrigan. Remembering that I just corrected your list.
2021-09-02 15:50
5 replies
EDIT: sorry i read bad xD
2021-09-02 15:50
4 replies
What you wrote?
2021-09-02 15:51
3 replies
Zeus no major? XDDDD
2021-09-02 15:51
2 replies
ok
2021-09-02 15:55
1 reply
okn't
2021-09-02 15:56
1. gla1ve 2. Zeus 3. Ex6TenZ 4. FalleN 5. TaZ
2021-09-02 15:49
26 replies
FalleN 2 major, 2 on hltv 2016 6 on hltv 2017, your list is trash. 1- gla1ve 2- FalleN 3- Zeus 4- Taz
2021-09-02 15:53
25 replies
zeus and ex6tenz better
2021-09-02 15:54
9 replies
Don't be a crazy fanboy, statistics say otherwise, if you want to live in Alice in Wonderland, good luck.
2021-09-02 15:56
8 replies
fanboy? Of who? XD
2021-09-02 15:57
7 replies
My friend, you need psychological treatments.
2021-09-02 15:57
6 replies
oh fallen fangirl gonna cry cuz i didnt put him as top2? Sad life also #65
2021-09-02 16:01
5 replies
You don't need to put him in the top2, he's the top2 in the stats, your opinion is worthless. :) And being a girl you understand well, you are a little girl for Russians to have fun.
2021-09-02 16:04
4 replies
ur both delusional SPUNJ TOP 1
2021-09-02 16:32
2 replies
+1
2021-09-02 16:36
+1
2021-09-02 16:37
2021-09-02 16:36
with that logic pronax should be higher than Fallen. Fallen was only relevant with one lineup and then trash for the rest of his career
2021-09-02 16:03
14 replies
See that I didn't just consider the major, read it again.
2021-09-02 16:11
7 replies
You think individual ranking should matter the most as an IGL, so you think blameF is was the best IGL last year as he was the highest rated IGL LOL?
2021-09-02 16:13
6 replies
No, it's the union of two things, read it again, you can't seem to read.
2021-09-02 16:14
1 reply
ah right, let's take this retarded measure of individual ranking and ignore everything that doesn't speak in favor of Fallen. Fallen has never achieved anything apart from his 1.5 year of succes with lum/SK. Pronax won 3 majors Karrigan has won more trophies than Fallen with several teams as well. Xizt has won more than twice the amount of trophies as Fallen. A lot of IGL's are waaay better than him, i mean just look how bad MIBR was when he was there
2021-09-02 16:17
You're dumber than I think, amazing.
2021-09-02 16:15
3 replies
Peanut brain brazilian, your arguments are as trash as your scene
2021-09-02 16:17
2 replies
Your scene is dying too, brain dead. :)
2021-09-02 16:19
1 reply
my scene has more players in top20 than any other country, your scene has been dogshit for the past 4 years ;)
2021-09-02 16:20
“ Fallen was only relevant with one lineup” Glaive was relevant with only one line up. This is not a argument.
2021-09-02 19:04
5 replies
sure but at least gla1ve remained relevant for a lot longer than Fallen who just dropped off a cliff as soon as his 2016-2017 strats stopped working. Gla1ve will have his time now to prove his leadership with new players now. And for the record im not arguing glaive should be considered the best IGL
2021-09-02 19:09
4 replies
Only device left Astralis. Gla1ve still has the same players in hand. And if you think 2 changes (if xyp leaves) count for “a new roster”, Fallen reach major semi final with new line up. And Fallen never was irrelevant lol dont win tournaments didnt mean irrelevance
2021-09-02 19:29
3 replies
changing 2 players means u have just as many old as new players to play with. Fallen ever only changed one player in his lineup, he was always with Taco, Fer and coldzera. He never reached SF with any other players than those and he never won anything without them. What did he do in 2013-2015? what did he do in 2018-2021? Nothing but getting clowned on by tier3 EU teams and now he got picked up by Liquid who's carrying him.
2021-09-02 19:32
2 replies
Semi final with stewie and tarik lol wtf are you talking about? 2013-2015 he was building br csgo scene 2020-2021 no one did nothing, even glaive, its online, no one cares 2018 semi final major with new line up You just another retard in hltv, i will not spend my time
2021-09-02 19:36
1 reply
The usual retard respond. "hE wAs bUilDiNg tHe sCenE" right..... 2020 glaive literally won 4 trophies with Astralis more than anyone else and got the team of the year award for the 4th time You're just a retarded Fallen and brazilian fangay. absolute trash scene
2021-09-02 19:40
Fallen is def higher than 5th. he built brazilian csgo scene from nothing.
2021-09-02 15:49
1 reply
+1
2021-09-02 15:54
if garry becomes furria's igl ez major
2021-09-02 15:50
#46
NiKo | 
Sweden Rifile
1. glave 2. karrigan 3. fallen 4. pronax 5. Zeus
2021-09-02 15:50
1. Aleksib 2. Glaive 3. Karrigan
2021-09-02 15:54
2 replies
KKKKKKKKKKKKKK
2021-09-02 15:54
more like it but slightly biased maybe
2021-09-02 16:19
#54
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Norway 2kayn
Ex6tenz
2021-09-02 15:54
stopped reading at zeus
2021-09-02 15:56
5 replies
Don’t know shit about CS history then.
2021-09-02 16:22
4 replies
+1
2021-09-02 16:28
sorry but just because you're an igl doesn't mean you can be completely pisslow at shooting people, the strats aren't the only thing you should be looking at when ranking igls
2021-09-02 16:41
2 replies
All the top ranked IGLs were good fraggers (for an IGL) idfk what you’re on about.
2021-09-02 19:02
1 reply
2021-09-03 11:47
1.Gla1ve 2.whocars
2021-09-02 15:56
who would include xizt and exclude pronax? lol
2021-09-02 16:02
1. gla1ve - best 2. fallen - made BR scene, won 2 majors back to back and introduced awp igl meta to t1 3. zeus - been on top with 3 different rosters and won a major with Gambot, been somewhat relevant from the start of csgo till 2019 4. TaZ - major winner, been relevant for 5 years in csgo, basically without him Poland top tier scene died 5. karrigan - only one majorless dude who deserve to be in top 5 (Although I think he's just lucky to always have best players) Why not pronax u may ask? Well, that's because he fucking sucks, he was nothing before and after Fnatic. His luck stat is even higher than karrigan's, he had 4 best players in 2014-2015 and strongest roster ever in terms of firepower but as soon fnatic kicked him, he wasn't been able to build good team with 4 different rosters, he must be luckiest dude in csgo.
2021-09-02 16:13
#75
Snax | 
Poland xBG1
in cs1.6 kuben/loord - top in csgo 1.gla1ve 2.fallen 3.pronax 4.happy 5.neo/taz Why not zeus ? navi strats arent ultra smart
2021-09-02 16:07
1 reply
who cares about strats, if IGL isnt only strategic maker, he is as well moral keeper, game focuser, caller and much more things man, its not so easy as it may look like everyone on top lvl has coach and analyst, which does great tactics against enemies, but a lot doesnt work, cuz players and igl, not so ez man
2021-09-02 16:44
1 - gla1ve 2 - FalleN 3 - Zeus 4 - Aleksib (i know this is questionable, but he does a lot with weird teams) 5 - Karrigan
2021-09-02 16:09
7 replies
i dont think ence was a weird team and OG also
2021-09-02 16:13
6 replies
ENCE was weird, basically just bunch of nobodies from finland (except allu) going to major final and top 2 in the world.
2021-09-02 16:17
1 reply
yeah i think we can give a lot of props to allu
2021-09-02 16:20
#274
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Finland kalza1
OG is weird as fuck bruhda, aleksiB top1 ever actually, put glaive in OG and they tier 5 insta
2021-09-03 12:27
3 replies
If they got the chance they would prob get glaive instantly))
2021-09-03 13:03
2 replies
#277
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Finland kalza1
aleksib gla1ve comparison: looks aleksi charisma aleksi overall igl aleksi enough said
2021-09-03 13:31
1 reply
glaive wins all imo :) just opinion düde
2021-09-03 13:42
#86
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France HippzZ
Happy is definitively top 5
2021-09-02 16:14
7 replies
not anymore, maybe in the past
2021-09-02 16:21
6 replies
If he makes DBLpony a top team, he’d be in discussion.
2021-09-02 16:23
3 replies
#133
RpK | 
France HippzZ
He is washed up now x)
2021-09-02 16:27
1 reply
it was for all time but still...
2021-09-02 16:36
he isnt in dblponey?
2021-09-02 16:29
#143
RpK | 
France HippzZ
I give him top 5 for what he achieved and how he impacted the meta back in the days (so I look at the context), but ofc if you compare him with current igls it is not the same.
2021-09-02 16:30
1 reply
no i mean its all time but still
2021-09-02 16:36
no order: Karrigan Fallen Glaive Zeus pronax
2021-09-02 16:15
blamef boombl4 niko jerry sjuush against spirit
2021-09-02 16:15
#98
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Russia mshkoda
glaive zeus fallen pronax happy
2021-09-02 16:19
2. zeus 8/8
2021-09-02 16:19
Worst bait of the year
2021-09-02 16:19
#106
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb
fallen glaive pronax karrigan zeus
2021-09-02 16:20
glove fallen zeus pronax aleksib (karrigan)
2021-09-02 16:22
idk about the others but 1 you surely need is fallen in top 5
2021-09-02 16:23
1. god pronax /closed
2021-09-02 16:25
1. gla1ve 2. Fallen 3. Karrigan 4. Zeus 5. Aleksib (didn't see fnatic's era with pronax)
2021-09-02 16:26
Any list without Pronax is a list that isn't worth reading
2021-09-02 16:29
1. Gla1ve(long term success) 2. Zeus(long term success including 4 majors in a row in cs 1.6) 3. Fallen(short term success) 4. Pronax/TAZ(short but notable success) 5. Boombl4/Nafany(lasting success)
2021-09-02 16:33
Karrigan best , no discusion about that . He made 3 teams at lest compete at the top while others excpect Zeus played with one roster.
2021-09-02 16:36
3 replies
honestly its not difficult to ''compete'' at the top lvl, when you have org that have insta invite to big events, even if they are top200, somehow you beat somebody and ez top 40, one more and top 30, you got my logic mouz and faze one of those orgs, Gambit aren't so Gambit had way more long way to reach top events than just being member in org, which have insta invite
2021-09-02 16:42
2 replies
Zeus has my respect getting thrown away from ChokeVi and winning the major with Gambit , as one of the biggest upset in the history of the sport. But FalleN was only relevant in SK with the same lineup for 2 years , and became irrelevant since then . Gla1ve made the biggest Era CS ever knowed but it was with the same line up , who can assure me that any other IGL wouldnt create that era with astralis line-up knowing that all of them was in top20 two years in a row . Pronax is just a myth , happy is just a myth ; they was good because the level of CS was way lower than now. This is my point.
2021-09-02 17:40
1 reply
man, how Na`Vi can be choke if they repeated over and over again great results, thats not choke man, for example Faze Eleague Major was choke, 1rst time they went far than 1/4 and throw it Na`Vi have 3 times 2nd place and 3 times 3-4 place in different rosters, but in same core, which means they were prepared to win major, except winner mentality in final You can remember comeback on Cache from Luminosity vs Liquid, brasilians screamed af and took round after round by having higher mentality, for example thats how Gambit did vs Astralis and in final vs brasilians, they throw it, took sh1t in their hands You can't see that in Faze and most of the teams
2021-09-02 19:31
Gla1ve Fallen rest irrelevant
2021-09-02 16:41
#161
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Luxembourg TheBudi34
TaZ kRYSTAL Ex6tenz rest irrelevant
2021-09-02 16:42
Gla1ve Fallen Zeus Kerrigan Nitr0
2021-09-02 16:43
1. gla1ve 2. pronax 3. karrigan 4. Zeus 5. FalleN 6. Happy 7. TaZ 8. Xist 9. nafany 10. Aleksib Honorable mentions: nitr0, nexa, jame, TabseN, BlameF, gob b, CadiaN
2021-09-02 16:47
Ex6TenZ most handsome player and best IGL
2021-09-02 16:53
1. gla1ve 2. pronax 3. FalleN 4. Zeus 5. Happy
2021-09-02 16:56
How could you forget Aleksib? Or maybe he's just on another lever compared to other igls so you left him out in this list. Otherwise he would be number 1.
2021-09-02 16:58
3 replies
#180
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Finland r1CEsT1CK
He hasnt played for very long compared to the others. But ez top 4th minimium
2021-09-02 17:08
2 replies
0/8 b8 m8
2021-09-02 17:10
1 reply
#183
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Finland r1CEsT1CK
bruh
2021-09-02 17:11
#178
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Finland r1CEsT1CK
Glaive Fallen karrigan
2021-09-02 17:07
why still discussing Aleksib = top1 IGL /close
2021-09-02 17:07
1 reply
+1
2021-09-02 17:10
#184
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Finland Venvau
Overrated all exept Gla1ve
2021-09-02 17:11
#185
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Finland KieZuZ
1. Alkulima
2021-09-02 17:21
#188
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CIS imixiu
1. boombl4 2. nafany 3. zeus 4. jame 5. glaive
2021-09-02 17:27
1. Glaive 2. Fallen 3. Karrigan 4. AlekskiB 5. Zeus 6. Pronax
2021-09-02 17:29
1. gla1ve 2. doesnt matter
2021-09-02 18:02
1 glaive 2 fallen/zeus 3 fallen/zeus 4 pronax 5 karrigan
2021-09-02 18:32
1. Gla1ve 2. Pronax 3. FalleN 4. Karrigan 5. Taz
2021-09-02 18:37
#200
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Czech Republic Luckjeen
karrigan top 1 on my list
2021-09-02 18:42
#202
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Russia _ygims_
why Xizt instead of karrigan?
2021-09-02 18:48
#209
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Chile jotler
1-Gla1ve 2-Karrigan 3-FalleN 4-Zeus 5-Aleksib
2021-09-02 19:04
1. Gla1ve 2. FalleN 3. karrigan 4. Zeus 5. pronax
2021-09-02 19:06
pronax FeelsBadMan
2021-09-02 19:16
#216
NAF | 
Canada Dubsyy
karrigan does not go on this list lol 0 achievements with top players fallen>karrigan
2021-09-02 19:29
In terms of achievement 1. gla1ve 2. pronax 3. happy 4. zeus 5. karrigan in terms of BIG BRAIN IGL 1. gla1ve 2. aleksib 3. karrigan 4. zeus 5. FalleN
2021-09-02 19:33
1 reply
#242
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Argentina cheapdeed
+11111
2021-09-02 20:50
1.neo 2.taz 3.snax 4.karrigan 5.zeus
2021-09-02 19:37
1 reply
can't be snax, cuz i dont even know he is/was igl like ever
2021-09-02 20:35
1. gla1ve 2. pronax 3. FalleN 4. karrigan 5. Happy
2021-09-02 19:38
gla1ve (obv) karrigan (brought every team he played in to the top and won alot of tourneys) pronax (has achieved so much, but he doesent have as much time on top as karrigan and wasnt as dominant as gla1ve. fallen (2x major winner, reviver of br cs) zeus (either a great igl or a fluke major, idk, cant tell)
2021-09-02 20:27
zeus obv not top 10 IGL lol
2021-09-02 20:28
#234
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Sweden Zeepter
EVER: cArn Pronax gla1ve ElemenT Zeus
2021-09-02 20:31
how the fuck is xizt up there? did he lead traditional nip lineup? why do i think it was f0rest lul
2021-09-02 20:34
People in the comments are hating on karrigan hahahahaha Sit down fucking idiots
2021-09-02 20:38
gob b gob b gob b gob b tabseN
2021-09-02 20:39
#241
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CIS kofilzz
1. gla1ve 2. Zeus 3. TaZ 4. nitr0 5. Fallen
2021-09-02 20:39
1. me 2. aleksib 3. who cars 4. who cars 5. who cars
2021-09-02 21:45
Fallen on top5 should be a crime 1.Gla1ve (Just 4 majors) 2.Fallen (2 majors, still killing people while igling) 3.Pronax (3 majors, one of the best og`s of all time ... Karrigan(0 majors, good igl, but can`t get more than 10 kills p game)
2021-09-02 21:53
1 reply
whot?
2021-09-02 22:05
#250
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Bosnia and Herzegovina hyrox1
1.gla1ve 2.FalleN 3.karrigan 4.pronax 5.Happy
2021-09-02 21:58
#260
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Turkey gozgoz43
where is XANTARES
2021-09-03 03:00
Fallen 2nd for sure. 2 majors and ton of top tier tournaments won. It's literally a crime to not vote him second. Third would be zeus and fourth karrigan. Fifth happy / pronax.
2021-09-03 03:05
5. FalleN 4. pronax 3. pashabiceps 2. Karrigan 1. gla1ve 0. maldpEX, GOAT 4 ever, the person who gave s1mple his middle finger, MALDPEX BEATS EVERYTHING
2021-09-03 04:05
1 reply
Did you mean neo/taz because when was pasha ever igl? :S
2021-09-03 17:17
Didnt see pronax = didnt bother too look at the order.
2021-09-03 12:32
Pronax should be in this.. Probably instead of zeus. He was great but this was suppose to be top5, less then top5 is still good ;)
2021-09-03 17:16
Fallen top 3 for sure. He managed to put selfish cold and braindead fer together and even made a small era.
2021-09-03 17:19
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