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TOP20 HLTV SO FAR
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Brazil spfcLK 
if the year ended today, would that be the top20 in your opinion? what would you change? for me is 90% what would be ideal. ***just a simulation***
2021-09-05 02:21
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#50
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North America Haydog322
where is elige tho in the stats
2021-09-05 03:36
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because liquid has been in na he hasn't played enough in top 20 to meet default filter. if you set map count lower, he appears hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2021-01..
2021-09-05 04:17
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hltv.org/stats/players?event=5554&event=.. actually this is the most correct link. hltv only display "notable events" stats on those pictures. top is based on that list and mvps/evps
2021-09-05 20:45
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#161
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North America Haydog322
so the one with no NA players and jks close to top 20 makes sense? They will probably make the lans worth more and especially the major
2021-09-05 22:10
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in 2020 they didn't make "lan" a special category, tho kato still stood out cos of how stacked it was before corona, they marked majors as highest-tier tournaments and they did matter the most of course so in 2021, they will probably treat major as a special tournament and the rest tournaments will have different value depending on how they are stacked. i don't think they'll draw the line between lan or online this time either what about na/sa players - if we reduce min map count, we'll see that kscerato, yuurih, elige and twistzz are somewhat top-20 contestants but only if their teams can post some result this season. if not - well, not like the top is unfair, they just don't deserve it jks with 1.03 rating and lack of achievements is pretty much out of the list, they should be completely crazy to include him this time p.s. besides notable events, actually blast showdowns/groups and play-in matter, as one fellow user corrected me. they don't impact too much anyway
2021-09-05 22:28
...i should prolly get a job, finally
2021-09-05 22:29
15th-20th
2021-09-05 06:31
#115
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Brazil LMZILLA
1. TACO 2. TACO 3. TACO 4. TACO 5. TACO 6. TACO 7. TACO 8. TACO 9. TACO 10. TACO 11. TACO 12. TACO 13. TACO 14. TACO 15. TACO 16. TACO 17. TACO 18. TACO 19. TACO 20. coldzera
2021-09-05 19:57
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Wtf no guerri?
2021-09-05 20:04
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#160
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Brazil LMZILLA
1. guerri 2. TACO 3. TACO 4. TACO 5. TACO 6. TACO 7. TACO 8. TACO 9. TACO 10. TACO 11. TACO 12. TACO 13. TACO 14. TACO 15. TACO 16. TACO 17. TACO 18. TACO 19. TACO 20. coldzera
2021-09-05 21:56
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+1
2021-09-05 22:29
This isnt good for top20 because some people play over100 map some of them under 100 map. For example zywoo played 76 map and thats not fair the other one.
2021-09-06 11:05
We all know Nivera top 1 2021
2021-09-05 02:27
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sh1ro will get top1, I think
2021-09-05 02:28
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0/8
2021-09-05 02:28
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-1
2021-09-05 02:28
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Hey mate as much as Sh1ro is a phenomenal player, I think it'd be a far stretch to predict sh1ro being number 1 in 2021. Not that he's a bad player but because s1mple is by far ahead of everyone else in terms of MVP and HLTV Rating.
2021-09-05 04:11
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#74
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Czech Republic lil_jahoda
+1
2021-09-05 10:03
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Cheers :)
2021-09-05 10:31
Top 1 is a stretch , I hope he gets top 5 though !! ^_^
2021-09-05 03:21
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+1
2021-09-05 04:13
+1
2021-09-05 06:44
btw where tf is this man?
2021-09-05 20:23
sh1ro top 1
2021-09-05 02:27
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#8
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France HoxjE
1.13 impact, 1.08 vs top10 and top5
2021-09-05 02:28
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hltv impact rating is just a number. anyone with two eyes and a brain can see sh1ro's impact by watching
2021-09-05 02:33
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thats why everyone know sh1ro is for now the biggest baiter of 2021 so far ?
2021-09-05 02:34
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they are just haters and baiters
2021-09-05 02:45
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impact rating exist for a reason, understand that
2021-09-05 02:48
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its just a number that doesnt mean anything. It only cares about opening kills and clutches and thats it. you cant measure impact with only datas and stats
2021-09-05 02:50
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stats are made for a good reason ,hltv ranking wouldnt exist otherwise and dev1ce would be top1 at least 3 times, unlukely stats did not accept that
2021-09-05 02:52
Out of all awp-ers i think Sh1iro baits the most. I've seen it a lot of times live. Those numbers mean everything for a player cause that's his rating.
2021-09-05 09:56
Lmao, true definition of deluded fan
2021-09-05 10:07
#114
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Mexico GiPaD
the numbers speak for themselves
2021-09-05 19:53
1. s1mple 2. Hobbit 3. sh1ro 4. ZywOo 5. Ax1Le 6. ropz 7. huNter 8. dev1ce 9. YEKINDAR 10. CadiaN 11. Jame 12. NiKo 13. mantuu 14. TeSeS 15. electronic 16. EliGE 17. valde 18. Frozen 19. stavn 20. TabseN
2021-09-05 02:39
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XDDDDD
2021-09-05 02:40
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Ez
2021-09-05 02:42
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One of the worst lists ever gg
2021-09-05 02:43
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Ty
2021-09-05 02:46
+1
2021-09-05 11:52
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#177
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Brazil yakd
1.simple 2.Hobbit 3.Shiro 4.axile 5.zywoo 6.ropz 7.Niko 8.jame 9.blamef 10.kscerato 11.device 12.cadian 13.twistzz 14.yekindar 15.frozen 16.yuurih 17.electronic 18.teses 19.naf 20.dycha mir Elige Hunter Syrson Valde Flamez Degster Mantuu Later half of the list would for sure depend on clutches multi kills and overall team sucess Electronic could be higher up since navis sucess
2021-09-06 06:47
I agree with top 5!
2021-09-05 02:41
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Ty ty
2021-09-05 02:42
#17
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Finland SunMutsi
Quite solid but im gonna predict b1t or perfecto to be on that list also. And yekindar is too high up, he is good yes but not #9...
2021-09-05 02:43
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#24
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Finland SunMutsi
Also wheres BlameF? Id also put konfig there but now with his injury aint sure if he makes it
2021-09-05 02:46
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Actually, my bad. I forgot about complexity lmao
2021-09-05 02:47
kscerato????????
2021-09-06 02:56
True about perfecto or b1t, also there is a slight chance mir or degster make like 20 or 19
2021-09-05 02:46
0.1 rating difference is just way way too much to be placed top2 even if hobbit is super good
2021-09-05 02:44
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We shall see. He does have 2 mvp's this year
2021-09-05 02:52
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look at dev1ce 2019, 4 mvp and major mvp with 1.23 rating, didnt get top2 over s1mple tho
2021-09-05 02:53
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True. We'll see. We still have 4 months of play
2021-09-05 02:55
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i would still put hobbit over sh1ro any day, even ax1le
2021-09-05 03:00
3 mvps much worse stats Visit a doctor please, u are lying about dev1ce and ZywOo stats in evry single thread sick fuck ofc dev1ce not gonna be second when his only achievement of 2019 is playing for Astralis LOL. maybe if his stats were somewhere close to s1mples who played with a dogshit team and still won mvp, he would be able to beat him. s1mple ; 1.28 rating 1.33 impact rating 1 mvp playing for top8 dev1ce : 1.22 rating 1.29 impact rating 3 mvps playing for top1 XDDD clown. 0.06 rating and 0.05 impact rating difference based on 100+ maps lol
2021-09-05 17:59
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and so what ? you made a thread where you think hobbit and sh1ro will be top2 in 2021 with 1 mvp and 1.18/1.22 rating compared to 1.28 for zywoo, Sh1ro even have 1.13 impact rating and 1.08 vs top10 and top 5 LMFAO so those guy with 1.18 rating/1.10 impact rating and 1/2 online mvp deserves nb 2 spot and dev1ce with 1.22 rating/1.29 impact doesnt deserve it with 3 mvp and 1 major mvps which is similar to 5+ online mvps ? s1mple only won a shitty not even S tier chinese mvp with 0 good team and had in comparaison 4 less mvps than dev1ce with only 0.04 impact diff and navi was still a top10 team in 2019, vitality in 2021 isnt even a top15 team overall ahah. Keep saying thing that makes you happy, you re just anuseless fanboy + fakeflagger /close
2021-09-05 18:08
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AHHAAH WHAT AN IDIOT U ARE ZywOo has played 17 FUCKIN MAPS AGAINST TOP-5 THIS YEAR U SICK CUNT HIS STATS ARENT EVEN SHOWED BECAUSE HE HAS PLAYED 76 MAPS IN 9 MONTHS WHAT ARE U TRYING TO COMPARE HERE. s1mple and dev1ce both played AT THE HGHEST LVL THE WHOLE YEAR AGAINST BEST TEAMS IN THE WORLD ZywOo this year : 0 mvps, 76 maps against top-20, cant get out of the group stage. He played at 8 events and was in semi finals ONCE. talk about his rating more now. farmed in the group stages against top50-100 teams Gambit : 140+ maps which is double as much, they played at 9 events and were in finals 8 times playing against best teams in the world AHAH, more mvps. TAlk about rating now.
2021-09-05 18:17
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keep talking about maps ahahah 2019 s1mple had only 25 maps vs top5 the ENTIRE year while zywoo still has like 6 big toornaments and majors coming, he will have more maps than s1mple and way more vs top5 + there will no be a dev1ce 2019 behind him.
2021-09-05 19:30
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Why are u talking about braindamaged facts taken from ur ass? hltv.org/stats/players/events/7998/s1mpl.. s1mple 2019 played in semis 7 times won 1 final lost 1 final zywoo in 2021 hltv.org/stats/players/events/11893/zywo.. 9 events - 2 times they managed to go out of their group 0 finals Great comparison once again. Destroyed once again.
2021-09-05 19:46
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i will rectify, Navi in 2019 which was a top8 team won 1 random final on shangai vs teams like panda gaming, vici, tyloo, spirit, north, pain, nrg, renegades and nip lost 1 final ??? AHAHAH are you taking into account fun toornaments that teams play for fun without groupStage where they troll and win 20K dollar in final ? xdddd + still talking about 2021 when there is literally 6+ big toornaments coming + the major, how delusional are you, as i said at the end zywoo will have more maps vs top teams, more maps overall, more EVPs, better stats and there wont be a dev1ce with 1.30 impact rating and 3 mvp/major mvp, keep staying mad about this and dont accept the truth
2021-09-05 19:58
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Ok, I wont reply to you form now on because u started baiting now. hltv.org/events/4240/starseries-i-league.. 500k starladder tournament with fnatic, NRG, NiP, North, Ence, VITALITY AHAH, FaZe etc = "random final in Shanghai" Say whatever u want s1mple 2019 6 semis 1 S tier trophy + final 129 maps against top-20 zybot 2021 9 events 7 times eliminated in group stages 2 semis 76 maps against top-20
2021-09-05 20:05
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you have serious maths problem typing like if HLTV top20 is released tomorow when there is literally 6+ big toornaments left + major xDD zywoo has 40 maps less and 7 maps less vs top5 than s1mple 2019 and still has a tons of maps : toornaments to play, zywoo didnt play fun toornaments with 20£k cash prize to boost his stats so you re final isnst even exist xd write it like that : navi 2019 : 1 win final, some semis lost. S1mple 2019 : 1 silver mvp and silver / bronze evp ( 2 more than zywoo in 2021 with zywoo having 7 toornaments left) zywoo in 2021 : for now 91 maps, 7 maps less vs top5 than s1mple 2019 and 2 EVPs less with for him 6 Big toornaments coming and major, already better stats than 2019 s1mple and it will keep growing. Going to have more maps, more Evps, better stats. You keep forgeting once again that you re not talking about 2021, you re talking about septemebre xd and you keep forgeting a guy named dev1ce with 1.30 impact that could have been top2 but did not and you think a guy named with sh1ro with 1.10 impact and only 1 mvp compare to 3 mvp with major mvp will get top2, good job in your life to surpass this level of delusional
2021-09-05 20:15
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TLDR sorry u are not answering but only repeating ur own words that arent related at all the season is almost over and ZywOo has only 2 playoffs out of 9 meanwhile Gambit has played in 8 finals already and got x2 more maps than ZywOo. nothing gonna change that. overall he will still have x2 less maps and almost 0 playoffs matches compared to Gambit. "6+ big events left" 😂🤣😂 blast fall iem eu stockholm major 6+ big events. mentally ill cnt. go visit a doctor.
2021-09-05 20:19
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esl s14 blast premier fall iem fall 2021 blast premier fall shodown pgl major stokolm blast premier fall final iem winter 2021 blast premier world final 2021 "3 events coming" xDD you re the one who should book something with a therapist, zywoo will have way more maps tha 2019 s1mple especially vs top5, way more EVPs, maybe Mvp of big toornament to become top1, impact rating near to 1.40 while sh1ro has 1.10, sh1ro wont even be in the top5, dev1ce in 2019 had 1.30 impact and major mvps + others, you re level of delusional is insane
2021-09-05 20:28
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6 events left (naming the current ESL s14 LOL) so basically 5 Blast Premier is for low tier teams u dumb idiot, Vita and other teams are in a higher tier. just check it before posting ur shit. so basically 4 and how does it change the fact that ZywOo will still have x2 less maps than everyone else? 😂🤣 Gambit players have 8 finals already and ZywOo struggled in the group stage for 9 months :D how are u going to beat Gambits 140+ maps and 8 finals? or u think that they will stop playing and let ZywOo get out of groups LOL delusional. they will have the same map difference in the end and ZywOo will still have no playoffs maps and no top-5 maps because Vita wont be able to win everything in those last 4 events lol 4 events left = ZywOo has 0 mvps, 2 playoffs out of 9 events Gambit - already 8 finals, x2 more maps, at least 1-2 mvps already 😂🤣🤣😂🤣 Keep dreaming.
2021-09-05 20:42
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what the actual fuck are you talking about : hltv.org/events/5605/blast-premier-fall-.. blast premier literally has all the best teams in the world participating AHAHAH, ESL 14 still has the most important part where zywoo is already in the playoffs and will already has more maps vs top5 than s1mple 2019 only with this playoffs, so zywoo lietrally has 8 toornaments left with playoffs in it and THE MAJOR, biggest event of the year zywoo will literally have way more maps than s1mple 2019 + sh1ro will never get constant 1.50 impact rating until the end of the year to get 1.30 like dev1ce 2019 and hobbit will never have the rating and mvps of dev1ce 2019, meanwhile zywoo will have more maps than s1mple 2019, way more vs top5, more Evps maybe MVP to get top1 and better stats ahahah, you just cant accept it i am laughing my ass off on how you re delusional xd
2021-09-05 20:49
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hltv.org/events/5606/blast-premier-fall-.. u ok mate? why do u name all the possible blasts even though this one is for low tier teams? 6+ events huh? :D Why do u keep mentioning s1mple 2019 and how the hell do u know the amount of maps played? :DD::D ZywOo played in 7 group stages and 2 semis this year s1mple 2019 played in 6 semis, won a 500k Starladder, had an MVP and more maps against top-20 in general Are u mentally sick or what? :D stop replying please. 2 playoffs in 9 events. and u keep calling him the second best of 2021 even though gambit players have x2 more maps, 8 finals and 2 mvps LOL Wake up, retard. Getting eliminated and playing at group stages the whole year with laughable 76 maps doesnt make u a better player Gambit played in 8 finals, ZywOo managed to reach playoffs twice in 9 months. Good luck beating that, braindamaged sick cnt,.
2021-09-05 21:18
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#142 it makes 7 toornaments left so its 6+, you re good in maths i guess, + you keep mentioning team results with forgeting that sh1ro has 1.10 impact rating not even top20 and hobbit 1.18 rating with 1/2 mvp vs dev1ce with 1.22/1.30 impact 3mvp/major mvps, individually dev1ce was way better than hobbit / sh1ro 2021 with more achievments and major mvp while for now s1mple2019 only have one mvp and 2 evp more than 2021 zywoo with 7 toornaments/playoffs left with tons of evp and some mvp maybe for zywoo + zywoo already has better stats, just stop being delusional xd
2021-09-05 21:23
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how is it 6+ / 7 events left if ESL started 20 days ago? blast premier fall groups (seems like u forgot to write groups, I wonder why lol) iem fall 2021 pgl major stockholm blast premier fall final iem winter 2021 blast premier world final 2021 (only if Vita wins the prv blast) so u just basically count blast groups as an event and blast world final as play offs even though they will not even reach this blast stage? ok nice 6+ events basically blast groups + blast final Vita loses the groups -- > vita wont playing in finals 6 + events LOL
2021-09-05 21:33
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#145 + playoffs oh sorry even group stage of esl s14 are still being played so yeah 7 events left, quik maths but you cant understand it, and "groups" of blast are not groups, they are played as playoffs and as individual toornaments as you can get mvp from it : hltv.org/events/5605/blast-premier-fall-.. just learn how cs works retard
2021-09-05 21:36
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how is it 7 u sick fck? :D u said 6+ left. ESL started 20 days ago. there are exactly 6 events left if Vita will manage to qualify to them and ZywOo will still have x2 less maps and playoffs maps because NaVi and Gambit will keep playing and getting more maps. Keep dreaming though!
2021-09-05 21:46
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you re delusional when its so simple to understand : 7 toornaments left, of course you count esl s14 when group stages are still being played and playoffs hast even started + zywoo is for now the best rated player of this toornament, mvp inc ? xd most likely and : zywoo 2021 will have way more maps than 2019 s1mple, more maps overall, better stats, more EVP, a good chance of more MVP, so zywoo 2021 will be > s1mple 2019 and the other contender are : dev1ce 2019 being top3 and being >>>> of shiro 1.10 impact and 1.18 rating hobbit so even tho you have zywoo 2021=>2019 smple hobbit and sh1aro will never be > dev1ce 2019 and they are far from it, just so s1mple to get it.
2021-09-05 21:48
imagine comparing 2019 maps that were played to 2021 with much more events LOL the numbers are different from year to year if u dont understand that :D And ZywOo will still have x2 less maps than everyone else in the end of 2021 lol. or u think that if zywoo will reach 100 maps against top-20 and others will have 200+ it will help him somehow? Lol literally no finals this year 2 semis 7 groupstages good luck winning the n.2 award against 8 finals and deserved mvps form Gambit lol delusional zywoo cock sucker. Cya. wont reply anymore.
2021-09-05 21:45
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#156 imagine winning the n 2 award with 1.10 impact rating not even top25 in 2021 and 1.18 rating vs 1.28/1.37 impact rating, even dev1ce 2019 with 1.30 impact vs 1.33 s1mple and 3 mvp / major mvp didnt make it but sh1ro with 1.10 impact or hobbit with 1.18 rating will make it, you brain just doesnt work i cant do anything for you /close
2021-09-05 21:52
May I ask when did dev1ce win 3 mvps this year? even a major? wow. 1.22 rating? 1.30 impact rating? wow. My sources say that dev1ce has 0 mvps this year and 1.12 rating / 1.19 impact rating
2021-09-05 21:34
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i am talking about 2019 dev1ce vs 2019 s1mple retard... and also 2019 dev1ce vs 1.10 impact 2021 sh1ro 1 mvp and 1.18 rating hobbit
2021-09-05 21:37
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ok
2021-09-05 21:39
"6+ BIg events" basically named the current event that is almost over a low tier event that Vita wont even participate in "6 PLUS" EVENTS CHECKS OUT lol Thats how delusion looks like.
2021-09-05 20:45
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"low tier event" when literally the best teams in the world participate to it and that you mentionned the final of s1mple 2019 in GG BET ice challege fun toornament EVENT AHAHAH
2021-09-05 20:52
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I wasnt talking about ESL I meant ESL that is almost over and fall showdown for low tier teams so basically 4 events left. and no, I did not count the GG Ice challenge after I saw only 4 participants.
2021-09-05 21:12
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yes you talked about GG ice challenge when you said navi lost a final in 2019, esl 14 alsmost over when the playoffs hasnt even started yet and that zywoo is in it ?? XD nt, remake the count: esl s14 blast premier fall iem fall 2021 pgl major stokolm blast premier fall final iem winter 2021 blast premier world final 2021 =6+ toornaments left, 6 total new and 7 playoffs in total, learn how to count /close
2021-09-05 21:19
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Oh, now the amount becomes less esl s14 isnt "left" though and why do u count those events as "playoffs" ? Vita went out of groups twice in 9 events? and u count this as 6 playoffs for ZywOo?> AHAH How many maps against top-5 top-10 this year? 1? ?2 :D Gambit has 8 finals this year and u count all the left events as "playoffs" for zywoo? delusional :D I mean reaching 1/8 isnt something that can help u to beat Gambit LOL
2021-09-05 21:27
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wtf are you talking about, zywoo has 7 maps less than s1mple entire 2019 vs top5 with 7 toornaments left for him, of course he will have way more maps than him in 2019 and also more overall, + everytime you talk you keep forgeting about ratings xd, a player can have 1000 maps a year, if he gets 1.10 impact rating vs someone with 1.36 or 1.18 rating vs someone with 1.28 he wont be ranked higher, even someone like dev1ce who had same impact as 2019 s1mple with 3 mvp more and major mvp wasnt ranked higher ahahahah, and this zywoo 2021 will even have better stats, more evp, more maps than this s1mple with nobody having the stats/mvp of dev1ce, you ve just lost the debate dude, accept it, 1/2 mvp 1.10 impact vs someone who will have a better year than s1mple 2019 and without a dev1ce contender xd
2021-09-05 21:32
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TLDR But I still see u mentioning s1mple 2019. Here is s1mple 2019 hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2019-01.. 6 semis 1 final + trophy 1 mvp 3 evps same amount of maps as others zywoo 2021 hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2021-01.. not in the list 2 playoffs 7 groupstages lost 0 mvps much less maps than everyone else
2021-09-05 21:39
U can stop replying now. I have already proved in front all the users how braindamaged u are. s1mple in 2019 : 129 maps (good number) much higher stats, deserved top 2 ZywOo in 2021 : 76 maps meanwhile all the pros have 100+ (1 semi final) 0 mvps Stats arent even showed hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2021-01.. Gambit - 146 maps, 8 out of 9 finals, at least 1-2 mvps go get a brain, delusional anime virgin zywoo cock sucker
2021-09-05 18:24
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+1 Zywoo will end up like s1mple in 2017 godlike stats but too small amount of playoff games and playoff placings to outrank Gambit trio unless he will enter godmode and scope some MVPs or he will end up fourth of fifth at best
2021-09-05 18:38
hltv.org/stats/players/11893/zywoo?start.. hltv.org/stats/players/7998/s1mple?start.. much higher stat when they literally have the same rating and zywoo have better impact rating/kast and you re talking about 129 maps for s1mple in 2019 ? with every toornaments coming zywoo will even have more maps than that at the end of the year ahahah and zywoo doesnt have a dev1ce with 3 mvp 1 major mvp and 1.30 impact/1.22 rating behind him, he has sh1ro with 1.10 impact and 1 mvp and hobbit with 1.18 rating, keep dreaming about ur fantasies there is way more chance that zywoo endup top1 by winning major mvp + another than sh1ro sudenly get 1.50 impact rating every game or than hobbit rankup his rating to 1.25, and all of that with zywoo playing with top20/15 vitality while s1mple had top8 navi in 2019 :)
2021-09-05 19:28
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TLDR jesus, I wasnt comparing their stats. I was saying that s1mple 2019 had much higher stats than dev1ce and played same amount of playoffs etc. ZywOo in 2021 has higher stats than Gambit but only 76 maps played in 9 months, 1 playoffs out of 9 events. There is no way somebody will give him the second place for playing group stage, having 76 maps (too little compared to others) and no mvps, just stop with ur stupid shit idiot ;)
2021-09-05 19:33
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you re comparing stats of maps played by 2019 s1mple the entire year with the entire maps of zywoo 2021 which is 91 btw with 6+ big toornaments left and major. so 40 maps difference with more than 6 big toornaments left and major and 7 maps diff vs top5, zywoo will have even way more maps than s1mple 2019 who got top2 with only 1 B tier MVP in china that no one care with dev1ce being major mvp and 2 other S tier one. Hltv will never get top 2 a guy with 1.10 impact rating, just imaginz 1.10 IMPACT its not even top30 and hobbit with only 1.18 rating is just way too low. zywoo would have to stop playing right now every next toornament for them to have a chance to be top2 thats why he has way more chance to have way more maps than 2019 s1mple and top1 than stopping cs rn
2021-09-05 19:39
hltv.org/news/22421/top-20-players-of-20.. s1mple 2017 1mvp 2evps #2 1.24 rating #1 kills per round #1 damage per round #1 t side rating #2 1.30 impact rating And he was only #8 this year :) Omg bro how? s1mple had 58maps against top-20 but nobody cares about maps and playoffs right? :D Same will happen to ZywOo this year. now stop crying. by ur logic s1mple 2017 shouldve been a top-3 player at least..
2021-09-05 19:39
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i am taking into exemple the most recent HLTV way of ranking which is 2019, zywoo will have more maps, more EVP way better stats vs top5/top10 and there wont be a dev1ce behind him with 3 major and major mvp, btw s1mple 2017 top20 filter rating : hltv.org/stats/players/7998/s1mple?start.. he has "OKAY" stats, just imagine OKAY STATS xd and 1.22 raiting/70 kast. S1mple 2019 has way better stats than that and zywoo 2021 will even have better stats than s1mple 2019 with more maps and EVPs
2021-09-05 19:45
9 replies
I see a great skill of using filters, using "all matches" for 2017 static.hltv.org/images/galleries/1693-fu.. hltv.org/news/22421/top-20-players-of-20.. Open this, braindamaged cunt. s1mple was the second highest rated player of 2017 having the next highest impact rating, highest ADR, T rating. and only #8 in 2017 because he had too little amount of playoffs maps just like ZywOo in 2021 who went out of his group 2 times at 9 big events getting last places like 10-12 13-16 etc. :)
2021-09-05 19:54
7 replies
#107 still hasnt figured it out how a year is composed, i am sure you re the type of guy making hltv thread for s1mple top 2019 and 2020 after 1 toornament at the start of the year xd + you re the one using top20 filter in all your agrgument even for your "76 maps" of zywoo and when i use it for s1mple 2017 you re mad about it AHAHAH, then accept the fact that zywoo have 91 maps in 2021 and will have way more maps than s1mple 2019 with more EVPs, better stats, not 1.22 rating like s1mple 2017 and without a dev1ce contender behind him that you tend to forget everytime you re typing, i repeat dev1ce 2019 1.30 rating / shiro = 1.10, dev1ce 2019 = 3 mvp + major mvp, sh1ro/hobbit = 1/2 mvp and 1.18 rating.
2021-09-05 20:04
6 replies
U just literally sent a link of s1mple 2017 using "all matches" u sick imbecile. I just literally proved u that s1mple 2017 had #2 highest rating, impact rating, the highest ADR and T rating and u r still denying that lol when there is basically an article from HLTV stating that. Same will happen to ZywOo 2021, imagine playing playoffs 2 times in 9 events lol But u can keep proving that a player who has 76 maps and 2 playoffs can beat Gambit players with 8 finals, 1-2 mvps, 146 maps 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
2021-09-05 20:10
5 replies
#109 i literally send you a top20 link with s1mple having okay Stats 1.22 rating and 70% kast xD, and #121 for your asnwers, zywoo will literally have better stats more maps everywhere than 2019 s1mple and there wont be a dev1ce contender as i ve told you 10 times but you cant read
2021-09-05 20:19
1 reply
ok
2021-09-05 20:20
i can also named you a tons of players with 1.10 impact rating in 2021 and they wont make it to the top20 even ahahaha, you re so delusional
2021-09-05 20:19
2 replies
hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2021-01.. cant see ZywOo here, where is he? chilling in the group stages? sad imagine having 76 maps not playing a single Final and talking about sh1ros impact who played in 8 finals this year AHAH
2021-09-05 20:21
1 reply
2021-09-05 20:29
I feel sad for u, u are still trying to prove that u are right even though I just literally showed u s1mple having the next highest stats from 2017 but with much less maps/playoffs maps which was the main reason he was only #8 that year. But u can keep denying that. mr. 76 maps, 2 playoffs LOL hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2021-01..
2021-09-05 19:53
Cant wait too see ZywOo being out of top-3 this year to laugh at u, braindamaged delusional cock sucker I will wait for 20th of september like never before There is only one problem. I destroyed millions of people like u before and they always ignore, hide and create new accs afterwards. U are one of them who talk the most and then disappeares when everyone sees the results Keep dreaming though! ZywOo top 1 for sure! s1mple baiter noob! ZywOo was unlucky this year but totally deserved in 2020 LOL
2021-09-05 18:30
Where NAF :(
2021-09-05 02:45
3 replies
I don't think anyone from the americas will make it apart from EliGE. Maybe TwistZz is a possibility
2021-09-05 02:50
2 replies
#42
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Brazil yakd
Kscerato of you consider br na roght now.
2021-09-05 03:12
1 reply
I don't think he's gonna make it. Furia haven't done anything this year.
2021-09-05 03:29
good list but sh1ro top1 I think
2021-09-05 02:45
1 reply
Not yet son
2021-09-05 02:49
wheres kscerato???
2021-09-05 03:09
2 replies
2021-09-05 03:30
1 reply
just see the stats
2021-09-05 06:41
no kscerato no baitf shit list
2021-09-05 03:17
2 replies
Kscerato isn't making it, forgot about blameF
2021-09-05 03:30
1 reply
why not? hes a machine has 1.14 hltv this year or something
2021-09-05 10:39
Made a top 20 awper list. NiKo higher, sh1ro lower, naf? Overall the list just ignores statistics for each player and his current rankings
2021-09-05 09:58
1 reply
#82
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Biske
+1
2021-09-05 10:40
jame, device, hunter, yekindar over niko? xaxaxaxaxa nice joke man :DD hobbit is not top 2 lmao
2021-09-05 10:07
#89
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Brazil kaioamorim
KSCERATO????
2021-09-05 18:03
#158
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Spain Pollete
-frozen +syrson Niko<--->huNter electronic<--->Yekindar
2021-09-05 21:52
1. aleksib 2. guerri 3. mantuu 4. valde 5. flamez 6. niko
2021-09-05 02:45
2 replies
#97
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Europe X1gma
mantuu > guerri. Rest good
2021-09-05 18:30
1 reply
idk guerri's knife kills bring a lot to the team
2021-09-05 18:30
1. s1mple 2. ZywOo 3. sh1ro 4. Ax1le/Hobbit 5. Ax1le/Hobbit 6. NiKo 7. ropz 8. Jame 9. EliGe 10. device 11. cadiaN 12. TeSeS 13. electronic 14. huNter 15. YEKINDAR 16. nafany 17. blameF 18. b1t (maybe) 19. Twistzz 20. NAF
2021-09-05 02:49
11 replies
electronic surely higher
2021-09-05 02:53
1 reply
electronic bad year 13 is right position
2021-09-05 10:01
naffers and naffaners would be disappointed. I'm a big nafany fan, but I don't think he'll make it :(
2021-09-05 02:53
2 replies
I would be disappointed if nafany didnt make it. He has so much impact as an entry fragger
2021-09-05 03:07
I think he definitely should be on a top 10 right now, However there is alot of the year left so everything can change. But i doubt he will be top 10 unless his 2.0 stats are top 10 ish. Because these list tend to never give certain type of players the recognition they deserve. IGL, Entry Fragger, or Hyper aggressive players, more Defensive players never get on top 10 unless they frag like CRAZY. Which is way harder for them then a typical Awp role player or a more free role player like Zywoo, Olofm, Simple, Niko typem
2021-09-05 04:22
wheres kscerato???
2021-09-05 03:09
jame 8 8/8 bait
2021-09-05 03:31
kscerato 15-ish nafany and naf wont be top 20, i wouldnt include b1t too maybe sm1 from spirit would be there (mir/degster) or frozen/valde good list overall tho
2021-09-05 04:18
3 replies
#93
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Canada Dubsyy
NAF deserves to be in top 20, he has better stats than elige right now
2021-09-05 18:22
2 replies
low impact kills
2021-09-05 22:57
1 reply
#176
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Canada Dubsyy
higher rating, better k/d differential NAF is better than elige by a close margin. NAF is always stepping up when Elige is having an off game. check the game today.
2021-09-06 06:18
s1mple top 1, zywoo top 2. Like literally anyone not named s1mple or zywoo has a miniscule chance of making it to the top 2. Also no way shiro gets ranked higher than axile. Hard to determine the rest of the rankings because a lot of players have very high ratings but no large achievements.
2021-09-05 03:33
1 reply
im pretty sure sh1ro will be 3rd, ax1le will compete with hobbit
2021-09-05 04:21
Aleksandr "s1mple" Kostyliev top 1 the rest is irrelevant
2021-09-05 04:00
1 reply
#100
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Germany tilted_up
forgot about Guerri. But the rest is irrelevant
2021-09-05 18:36
Impossible to know now, because there is alot of tournaments left, but also the biggest of them all is left. And that will definitely mean more then the rest. Winning a Major, becoming MVP, or just contribute enough to win can impact alot But as of right now i think S1mple, Shiro ,Ax1le, Cadian, Hobbit Are the top 5. But honestly anyone on top 10 ish can surpassed each other. As of right now i think S1mple and Shiro are so close to each other that they can surpass each other every tournament. And then Ax1le, Hobbit and Cadian are a little bit after but in reach. Winning a major and a MVP can change alot. What ppl tend to do is stare to much on stats sometimes, while obv stats matters, there are roles that makes it insanely hard to win MVP, or to get amazing KD ratio o 2.0 stats numbers. Cadian has one of the best stats in the world while still leading his team, and still can win some tournaments or come top 3. That is definitely way harder for him to get his stats than for many others. Also for a typical old fashion JW, or Friberg typ player its impossible almost to get insane stats because of the entry fragging roles or just being "in your face aggressive" like JW or Stewie2k always was Then there are ppl with great stats that rarely win with team, hard to put everything together and compare every different aspect. But im very sure about my top 5.
2021-09-05 04:18
14 replies
i dont think hltv would put zywoo under top 5. he might be top 2, top 4 max
2021-09-05 04:22
2 replies
Yes iknow they wont, but this was my list. I think many fans and the ppl that decide these list are way off when they choose. Its like the typical Football (best player awards) We always give it to the guy that score the most goals. Its the same here, best 2.0 stats win strategy. While obv that sometimes can be right, being super IGL can be the difference between a bad team and a good team. I remember when Fnatic struggling alot, and the kicked Moddi, and brought in Pronax, and they instantly won a Major. Fnatic was bad before and when Pronax came him everything changed. But still he got no top 20 because of that. Without Cadian Heroic would never peform like they do. Without Hobbit and Nafany i doubt Gambit would peform as well. Thats why it would be so cool if a s1mple typ player could play in a perfect function team like a Heroic or Gambit. Because they would almost be unbeatable. Navi is beatable because they arent a perfect function team. They are obv a good team but definitely not a perfect one. Remove S1mple and they are probably not a top 10 team.
2021-09-05 04:33
1 reply
how do u know it would be unbeatable? s1mple plays in specific roles, he rarely does trash positions and this might clash with his teammates. zywoo has really good stats although his team had poor performances so far, so he might be top 5 at least.
2021-09-05 15:40
#63
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Denmark hanigod
"S1mple and Shiro are so close". Uhh, not that close lmao. S1mple can just AFK till the end of this year and still easily claim his #1.
2021-09-05 04:41
10 replies
Actually no he cant. Gambit wins alot, have better overall players, play more teambased. Which basically means that getting lots of frags is harder on a Gambit team than for a Simple in Navi. Having best 2.0 rating isn't what top 20 should be about. Being the best overall player is what we are looking for. Winning is a big part of it, making ur teammates better are a big part of it, fragging is a big part of it. Something Sh1ro obv have alot of and so does S1mple. But S1mple is put in a role were he obv can get more freedom, more opportunities to get frags. Something that Sh1ro doesn't get to the same level. Thats why they are close. And the major will definitely give a few players a big bump.
2021-09-05 06:26
9 replies
sh1ro literally has 1.10 impact rating in 2021, i doubt he will be top5, hobbit deserve way more but wont be top2 sadly with 1.18 rating, Mvp are used when players are very close in rating, thats why dev1ce 2019 didnt get top 2 over s1mple in 2019 with s1mple having the same stats as zywoo 2021 and dev1ce who had 1.23 rating/1.30 impact and 3 mvp with major mvp
2021-09-05 20:33
6 replies
Iknow how they rank ppl. Im just telling you that they ranked them wrong. This is my opinion, and its okey for you to have yours brother.
2021-09-05 22:42
5 replies
no, i also think that Dev1ce 2019 should have been top2
2021-09-05 22:44
4 replies
hltv.org/stats/players/compare/7998/s1mp.. 😂🤣😂😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣 clown, nobody asked u literally 0.10 impact rating difference and u were the guy crying about sh1ros impact. jesus u are the most twofaced dog ive seen in my life go get a life adopted bullied kid
2021-09-06 02:51
3 replies
of course man : device impact 1.29 : hltv.org/news/28864/top-20-players-of-20.. s1mple impact 1.33 : hltv.org/news/28874/top-20-players-of-20.. literally only 0.04 impact rating diff with dev1ce having 2 more mvp + mvp major + more Evps + more wins and you re comparing dev1ce 2019 to 1 mvp sh1ro with 1.10 impact rating having a difference of 0.25 impact with zywoo having 1.35+ AHAHAH, you re an absolute animal, get back into your cave and stay mad the rest of your life xd : hltv.org/stats/players/11893/zywoo?start.. hltv.org/stats/players/16920/sh1ro?ranki.. hltv.org/stats/players/16920/sh1ro?ranki.. sh1ro even have "poor" adr vs top 5 AHAHAH just like karigan and Apex XDD
2021-09-06 03:37
2 replies
only 0.04 go do ur homework kid only 0.04 based on 100+ maps only 0.04
2021-09-06 05:25
1 reply
You re the one who should do your homework and use your brain you re a guy thinking that at the end of the year with both zywoo and Sh1ro with 100+ maps sh1ro will be top 2 while having a difference of nerly 0.30 impact rating, you re not shocked by 0.30 impact diff but shocked by 0.04 whith a dev1ce who had in more 2 mvp than sh1ro and major mvp + way more Evps, you re pathetic
2021-09-06 13:24
#178
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Denmark hanigod
lol this logic had been use by some Astralis's fan since 2018. And it's irrelevant unless you can show how you evaluate and quantify all of those qualitative variable in your model. You said: S1mple has more freedom, yeah i cant agree more, but how much? By number, can you tell? By number i can tell you S1mple dominate everyone, A LOT. Yeah you can have your own opinion, everyone can, but you dont have anything to back it up... You said Gambit have better overall players? Actually not, Perfecto, Electronic and B1t are performing so great, and they even won the only LAN event this year so far, by style. To conclude: in your opinion Sh1ro might be close to S1mple level, but by numbers, and i can tell you HLTV ranking virtually rely on those numbers, S1mple can AFK till the end of this year and claim his #1 easily, period.
2021-09-06 11:01
1 reply
First off, stats aren't everything, but if you wanna go with ur stats, then you proven ur own mistake by saying Perfecto, Elec and B1t are just as good or better then gambits players. If only look at stats you will se that Gambit players peform better. Now i dont care that much about stats, so even if they have better stats wouldn't necessarily mean they would be better. Shiro is definitely close to Simple when it comes to who is the best player. I However think Simple is number 1 right now, but to say that he can be afk til end of the year when the most important, biggest tournament is left. Plus MANY other big tournaments are left is purely dumb. Lets say there is 4 really big tournaments left, 4 medium plus the major. Let say Gambit win 2 out the big ones, plus the major and 2 of the medium ones. Shiro gets 2 MVPs and plays good in all those tournament. Navi wins 1 big and Simple gets 1 MVP. Gambit gets ranked number 1 again. And hold it for 1-2 months. Thats how he can become number 1. Simple have struggled for years and years of being a good teammate. But the last 1,5-2 years he actually improve so much on that. This is why Zywoo was number 1 because he was better at most aspect of the game. Now finally Simple starting to get it done, and if he continues like this for the rest of the year then yes he will be number 1. But he isnt so far ahead of the top 4 ish that they cant go past him.
2021-09-07 00:50
s1mple sh1ro ax1le/zywoo zywoo/ax1le hobbit/b1t b1t/hobbit TeSeS elige NiKo electroNic Jame/Device Device/Jame KSCERATO/Yekindar Yekindar/Kscerato Ropz/BlameF BlameF/Ropz huNter Stavn Perfecto/CadiaN Cadian/Perfecto yuurih/Frozen
2021-09-05 04:21
1 reply
sh1ro has 1.10 impact rating in 2021, he wont be top5
2021-09-05 20:30
gary SENSEi Sergiz j3kie Psycho DemQQ HUNDEN (Coach)
2021-09-05 04:38
1 reply
XEPPA???
2021-09-06 02:58
I think the rankings this year are going to be very different
2021-09-05 06:32
this would be the 1st time after so long when device isnt in top5 anymore
2021-09-05 09:59
1 reply
it is what it is.It s his fault anyway.
2021-09-05 18:23
device top21)))
2021-09-05 10:03
Well simple is probably locked for top 1 no? :D
2021-09-05 10:04
stats for top20 at end of the year are counted from top20 matches?
2021-09-05 10:12
#83
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Estonia Sn4pzhat
no, sadly atm valde wont be there. Degster fell off, also yekindar but he might make it. Kscerato shouldnt be there aswell imo, add elige, mby konfig. Mantuu on my paper should be top 10 or top 12 sth like that
2021-09-05 10:49
tabseN gotta be somewhere in there
2021-09-05 10:49
I feel like perfecto deserves a top 20 spot if he keeps up his form he has been phenomenal
2021-09-05 18:01
dev1ce top 5 zis year? i hope not, the move to nip was a shit idea.
2021-09-05 18:11
lmao no
2021-09-05 18:30
#102
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Germany tilted_up
Guerri. Simply got to love this guy. He's so hyped when he plays a good round, I totally love it. Barely haven't seen a dude that puts up so much good vibes in professional csgo :D
2021-09-05 18:38
wow actually niko is top 3 on only ct side, that's crazy, but on T side he kind of fell off pretty far
2021-09-05 19:44
Aleksandr "s1mple" Kostyliev top 1 the rest is irrelevant
2021-09-05 19:47
1.s1mple 2.zywoo 3.sh1ro 4.hobbit 5.ropz 6.ax1le 7.niko 8.jame 9.blamef 10.kscerato 11.frozen 12.device 13.yekindar 14.twistzz 15.electronic 16.cadian 17.hunter 18.broky 19.syrson 20.yuurih no elige this year.
2021-09-05 20:18
2 replies
but we can kick cadian out of there and add elige.
2021-09-05 20:19
Elige > Niko and Jame
2021-09-06 02:59
So far, it looks like (based on what we've seen) (1) s1mple (2-5) sh1ro / ZyWoO / hobbit / Axile (6-10) NiKo / Bit / electronic / ropz / device (11-15) EliGe / perfecto / CadiaN / yekindar / hunter (16-20) Jame / blamef / valde / kscerato / tabseN The players in each bracket can shuffle, but I think atleast 75% of this list will make the top 20. Players I think could make it / narrowly miss out : Perfecto, degster, konfig, Rez, Twistzz, Jackz, Yuurih.
2021-09-05 21:09
2 replies
Elige 1.17 rating and 1.25 impact Eletro 1.12 and 1.11... Ropz: 1.15 and 1.10... Bit: 1.11 and 1.12 .................
2021-09-05 21:40
1 reply
Honestly I wanted to keep EliGe higher. But then I didn't refer to numbers, so the list isn't reflecting that
2021-09-05 21:49
#153
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Romania xypperz
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2021-09-05 21:40
#165
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Canada skoobydoo
For me it goes something like this: (1) s1mple (2 - 5) zywoo, sh1ro, Hobbit, NiKo, blameF (6 - 10) ropz, Ax1le, electronic, tabsen, Hunter (11 - 15) Jame, Kscerato, syrson, device, Elige (16 - 20) k0nfig, frozen, mantuu, REZ, Perfecto depending on their performance for the remaining tournaments (especially major), I can see the following players making it: Yekindar, b1t, Twistzz, nafany based on a mix of stats, how valuable they are to their team, eye test and overall consistency. I consider that awpers have a very high rating 2.0 so their actual impact may be lower (e.g. Jame) than their ranking suggests if you only look at that).
2021-09-05 22:39
2 replies
REZ? NAFLY? TABSEN 6-10??? WTF SKKKKKSKSSKSKSKKSSKSK
2021-09-06 03:01
man, ax1le is better than sh1ro, sh1ro just had a brief prime, but now he is kinda average. Furthermore, k0nfig is better than tabsen as well. In general, it's a good list
2021-09-07 01:02
i would change sh1ro by ax1le and hunter should be in a higher position
2021-09-07 00:58
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