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top20?
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Lithuania andy_ 
we're 9 months in, who's gonna make top20 in no particular order?
2021-09-11 23:22
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definately s1mple
2021-09-11 23:22
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#3
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Czech Republic Za1Lo
wow rlly? I didnt know that
2021-09-11 23:23
4 replies
Now you do
2021-09-11 23:24
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#5
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Czech Republic Za1Lo
yes
2021-09-11 23:26
2 replies
at least say thank you to him
2021-09-12 06:24
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+1 be nice to each other
2021-09-12 06:36
Guerri and Boombla each 10 times
2021-09-11 23:23
4 replies
NoobI4 bot
2021-09-11 23:27
3 replies
Greek_Ukranian bot
2021-09-11 23:28
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wokebrobansko noob
2021-09-11 23:28
1 reply
wtf true
2021-09-11 23:28
#6
FalleN | 
Brazil shere
1. s1mple 2. zywoo 3. sh1ro 4. Hobbit 5. ax1le 6. elige 7. ropz 8. jame 9. yekindar 10. cadian 11. teses 12. device 13. fallen 14. NiKo 15. electronic 16. nafany 17. kscerato 18. stavn 19. b1t 20. naf
2021-09-11 23:26
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unluss zywoo get mvp and wins epl, no way in hell he's getting no.2 nowhere near enough maps and achievements this year
2021-09-11 23:27
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he has good rating
2021-09-11 23:28
6 replies
that's not enuogh you need to have mvps, tourneys won and maps played for such a high placement he has 30 less maps that s1mple and no accomplishments to show that he is capable of top 2
2021-09-11 23:29
#22
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Sweden bevern
its not all about rating
2021-09-11 23:30
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#31
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Denmark pebblez
it mostly is also he has multiple strong evps and his team is good enough so he will only get more
2021-09-11 23:31
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#34
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Sweden bevern
Vitality hasnt been so good this year. few maps etc
2021-09-11 23:33
He fking played only 1 playoff. How the f he should get 2nd?
2021-09-12 02:33
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BLAST Global Finals Flashpoint IEM Summer EPL14 only 1 playoff?
2021-09-12 06:57
#16
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Ukraine VladX3
+1
2021-09-11 23:28
check rating man zywoo is 0.06 higher than #3
2021-09-11 23:29
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but (although now caught up) 10 less maps and no mvps or tropgies whatsoever
2021-09-11 23:30
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it's just too big of a rating difference, plus he gets evps in basically every playoffs event he goes to and the gambit mvp's are split between three players. mvps are only tiebreakers
2021-09-11 23:32
Do you realize how many maps zywoo needs to catch up with s1mple's number of maps? 1 or 2 events won't make a difference at this point...
2021-09-11 23:42
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he needs to get 30 to be on s1mple level of maps which won't happen since navi always get to the final
2021-09-11 23:44
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s1mple actually has 141 maps and zywoo has 98 maps (hltv.org/stats/players/compare/7998/s1mp..). But yea, I get your point!
2021-09-11 23:47
#52
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Brazil Bactuga
Everything is about Rating, HLTV barely cares about tournaments won anymore its just because since people win alot of tournaments they usually get good rating
2021-09-12 02:27
#62
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxyownz
plenty of maps left before year ends
2021-09-12 06:12
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yes but navi always get to the finls and vitality are not necesseraly as consistant
2021-09-12 10:57
hes gonna win the major, that will be enough for top 2.
2021-09-13 10:08
1 reply
you wish
2021-09-13 16:54
#10
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Italy PhilD06
i dont think fallen can make top20, and elige shouldn't be that high but he can make it in top 20
2021-09-11 23:28
4 replies
fallen is easily top20 I think
2021-09-11 23:28
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#18
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Italy PhilD06
no bro, I know ur fan of FalleN and u want him to be top20, but his stats aren't that good that he can make top20
2021-09-11 23:29
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you can expect this from 90% of the br fans, unfortunately people cant realize that fallen isn't the same that he was in 2017, but honestly he maybe can do it in top 20-18
2021-09-11 23:40
fallen 1.01 player this year
2021-09-11 23:30
snuck in shiro
2021-09-11 23:28
bruddah move elige out of the top 10 and replace him with electronic lmfao
2021-09-11 23:29
#23
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Finland epeape15
Stavn Teses and cadian but no refrezh. No one from heroic will be in t20 anyway
2021-09-11 23:30
-fallen-naf for me but others probably more possible than not
2021-09-11 23:31
#35
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United States !Flash
HUNTER?
2021-09-11 23:35
#36
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Europe Zinn0
devve and not rez wtf
2021-09-11 23:37
nafany is far from Top 20, B1T and FalleN probably not making it. Instead huNter-, blameF and mantuu perhaps.
2021-09-11 23:38
elige should be a bit lower
2021-09-11 23:46
zywoo, s1mple, NiKo, hobbit, sh1ro, yekindar, KSCERATO, ropz, elige, tabsen im pretty sure but other 10? stavn/teses? konfig probably, mir/degster, device, maybe electronic? hunter also probable imo, dupreeh? idk its easy to say first 10-15 but then for me its hard. and i might sound dumb but its hard for me to choose more players than 15
2021-09-11 23:29
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zywoo wont be #1
2021-09-11 23:30
2 replies
its random order, i personally think s1mple top1 easily
2021-09-11 23:31
1 reply
ok then
2021-09-11 23:31
I think theres No place for k0nfig
2021-09-12 02:14
b1T
2021-09-11 23:30
1 reply
B1t good, but right now Perfecto better, he deserving a top 15
2021-09-11 23:37
#33
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Romania xypperz
1.xyp9x and rest
2021-09-11 23:32
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#48
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Portugal weirdlion2
+1
2021-09-12 00:44
1-s1mple 2-sh1ro/zywoo 3-zywoo/sh1ro 4-niko 5-ax1le 6-cadian 7-hobbit 8-elige 9-electronic 10-teses 11-hunter/kscerato 12-kscerato/hunter 13-yekindar 14-ropz 15-stavn 16-jame 17-tabsen 18-naf 19-b1t 20-mantuu/refrezh/device/many options
2021-09-11 23:52
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#45
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Croatia ufsine
why do people always put elige so far up. like he hasn't won anything this year (it's not really his fault tho but you still have to take it into consideration) and his rating has been pretty bad. putting him over electronic or ropz or even hunter is just insane to me. i get hes a nice guy and a legend in the scene but cmon we have to get real
2021-09-12 00:24
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ok, it's fair to put electronic or hunter over elige, but elige wasn't really bad this year, ofc he's not as good as he was some years ago, but he's still at least a top 10-15 player in my view
2021-09-12 00:38
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#49
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Croatia ufsine
true dat but now the scene is filled with so many young talented players and most of these legends like niko, elige or fallen will fall into obscurity. eventually the top 20 will just be filled with young awpers who have no actual game snese and are just given kills on a sliver platter
2021-09-12 02:06
#53
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Brazil Bactuga
- Cadian shouldnt be that high, could be debatable he shouldnt even be top 20 - TeSeS should be top 15-20 max - Jame Debatable to be even on this list - Naf Debatable aswell - B1t should be top 10 - Stavn shouldnt be on this list - Electronic top 15-20 max, i see him not even being in top 20 this year - Hobbit should be on top 5 - ZywOo should be 2nd and Sh1ro 3rd - Ropz deserves top 10
2021-09-12 02:32
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why are you underrating so hard heroic? b1t is good, but not enough to top 10 out of that, most of what you said is really debatable, we still have some months to watch, the major can change many things
2021-09-12 05:13
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#61
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Brazil Bactuga
CadiaN is good but he did nothing crazy i dont know why you put him in top 6, he shouldnt even be in the top 20, Stavn is really incosistent and some games he just whiffs everything, TeSeS is the only one who you can say he could be in the top 10
2021-09-12 06:09
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#81
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Brazil yakd
All heroic core is hard to rank because they are close to each other. They are all around 1.08-1.13 rating, so you would need to look closer into evp, mvps and ratings against top teams. Electronic will prob make top 10 and b1t or perfecto makes top 20. I agree hobbit till this point should be top 5 and rops top 10 Zywoo more matcjes played and results to be top2, if he wins today and get mvp one more similar result might be enought.
2021-09-12 20:35
#55
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Japan MiCOOL
Mantuu>Hunter 1000000%
2021-09-12 02:36
It is stupid to talk about top20 before the major
2021-09-12 00:29
I only can see S1mple as 1st. Rest of the top 20 will be stacked with young blood
2021-09-12 02:16
1. s1mple 2. sh1ro 3. Ax1Le 4. Zywoo 5. Hobbit 6. Ropz 7. Jame 8. Twistz 9. mantuu 10. Elige 11. teses 12. device 13. cadian 14. NiKo 15. YEKINDAR 16. REZ 17. stavn 18. BlameF 19. nafany 20. kscerato
2021-09-12 02:37
top 1 - jackinho top 2 - s1mple top 3 - guerri top 4 - guerri again top 5 - Michu
2021-09-12 02:46
3 replies
joking right?
2021-09-12 07:20
2 replies
No, Jackinho is the new coldzera and guerri appears twice because of his big cock
2021-09-13 00:47
1 reply
i see
2021-09-13 10:06
1. Godsutaaa 2. Godwoo 3. Simple 4. Who cars 5. Who also cars
2021-09-12 02:49
1. Tobey Maguire 2. Tom Holland 3. Andrew Garfield
2021-09-12 02:57
1 reply
+1
2021-09-12 06:59
#63
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Portugal Hmikas
1-stadodo 2-just 3-mutiris 4-rmn 5-story 6-stadodo 7-just 8-mutiris 9-rmn 10-story 11-stadodo 12-just 13-mutiris 14-rmn 15-story 16-stadodo 17-just 18-mutiris 19-rmn 20-story
2021-09-12 06:18
7 replies
fox???????????
2021-09-12 07:00
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#77
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Portugal Hmikas
?? what?
2021-09-12 19:38
3 replies
where is fox.
2021-09-12 19:39
2 replies
#79
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Portugal Hmikas
in the forest
2021-09-12 19:39
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what is he doing with nip forest
2021-09-12 19:39
#72
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Europe GumGuyHLTV
I clapped mutiris so hard in FFA few days ago man didn't know where my m4s was coming from.
2021-09-12 07:49
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#76
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Portugal Hmikas
sad :(
2021-09-12 19:38
1. Flamie 2. GuardiaN 3. Zeus. 4. Edward. 5. Seized. 101. s1mple
2021-09-12 07:00
thats how i think current top 20 looks like, major will significantly affect on this list: s1mple, zywoo, sh1ro, hobbit, ax1le, niko, blamef, ropz, cadian, hunter, teses, jame, electronic, broky, twistzz, mantuu, elige, naf, frozen, valde: close to top 20: yekindar, mir, degster, flamez, b1t, stavn, device, rez, syrson, tabsen.
2021-09-12 07:09
SHOCK
2021-09-12 07:50
1.s1 2.woo 3.sh1 4.hobbo 5.ax1 6.NiKo 7. elec 8. Jame 9. ropz
2021-09-12 11:01
s1mple flamie zeus edward seized guardiaN electronic b1t perfecto boombl4 markeloff starix..............
2021-09-13 10:07
1. s1mple 2. sh1ro 3. Ax1Le 4. Zywoo 5. Hobbit 6. electronic 7. Jame 8. NiKo 9. hunter 10. NAF 11. Teses 12. device 13. cadian 14. Elige 15. YEKINDAR 16. REZ 17. stavn 18. nafany 19. blameF 20. kscerato
2021-09-13 10:28
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