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Astralis 2018 VS Navi 2021
Russia tonysh3 
How hard Astralis will demolish this Navi lineup? 16-9?
2021-09-12 12:18
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if all of navi playing good navi will win
2021-09-12 12:19
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#21
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Finland DTeeVee
gla1ve > Boombl4 Magisk > B1T Xyp9x > Perfecto dupreeh < electronic device < s1mple zonic > B1ad3
2021-09-12 13:36
54 replies
B1t>>>> magisk. Perfecto>Xyp9x S1mple>>>>>>Dev1ce Electronic>>>>>Dupreeh boombl4>>>>>>>>>>>>gla1ve Also impossible to compare coaches...
2021-09-12 13:38
44 replies
When you say boom > glaive, it shows how clueless you are
2021-09-12 13:40
30 replies
+9999999
2021-09-12 13:44
+1
2021-09-12 13:45
+1
2021-09-12 13:48
+1
2021-09-12 14:20
+1 lmao
2021-09-12 14:29
#54
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
+1
2021-09-12 14:43
+1
2021-09-12 15:07
If you want a serious Non delusional one B1t =< Magisk Xyp9x > GOATfecto S1mple >> dev1ce Electronic > Dupreeh gla1ve >>>> boombl4
2021-09-12 15:20
6 replies
Nah, B1t is godlike but peak Magisk was insane. He easily beats him.
2021-09-12 15:45
5 replies
Yeah As I Said, I don't really Know And didn't want to compare the two because It hasn't really been that long for b1t, so i would say equal at best but Magisk is better
2021-09-12 15:46
4 replies
That's true. Magisk so far is better but B1t is barely into his career. He has a lot of potential and a lot of time :D
2021-09-12 15:49
1 reply
yeah i just wanted to make a prediction for B1t's potential ability but didn't want to go too wild with it aswell so kept it to possibly the recent performances
2021-09-12 15:50
Peak magisk was a major mvp and a top 5 player no way bit is as good. I do respect bit and he’s a really good player but not as good
2021-09-12 17:38
1 reply
Yeah I know, But since he has played alot less i just tried to say he has the potential to be close to magisk but not better, Currently Of course Magisk is way better
2021-09-12 17:40
+1
2021-09-12 15:20
+1000
2021-09-12 15:28
#80
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CIS Tamoka
+11
2021-09-12 15:36
+1
2021-09-12 15:44
+1
2021-09-12 16:13
get a joke maybe
2021-09-12 17:04
2 replies
It's not a joke when he has boombl4 in his name. Maybe your brain thinks everything is a joke because you are one. Cya :)
2021-09-12 18:07
1 reply
ok
2021-09-12 19:44
+1
2021-09-12 17:24
+1 goat
2021-09-14 19:44
+1
2021-09-15 15:47
reported
2021-09-17 00:15
1 reply
For what?
2021-09-17 06:17
+1
2021-09-17 00:27
+1biilion
2021-09-17 00:33
+1111
2021-09-17 06:17
#65
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United Kingdom novaseer
uk brain
2021-09-12 15:15
1 reply
same flag why backstab(((
2021-09-17 06:15
"boombl4>>>>>>>>>>>>gla1ve" xDD
2021-09-12 15:17
Astralis all better except device
2021-09-12 15:36
6 replies
Prime elec >>>>>>> everyone on astralis. B1t is getting stronger with every torney
2021-09-12 15:52
5 replies
Yeah he wholeheartedly disagree, navi didn’t get a lot done when he was in his prime
2021-09-12 15:54
4 replies
Cuz two vs five is hard uknow ?
2021-09-12 15:55
3 replies
Yeah well I still disagree and that is not very much an excuse if they where so good haha it’s not like they literally play 2v5
2021-09-12 15:58
2 replies
Edward and Zeus might as Well have nerfed the rest of the Team.
2021-09-17 00:34
1 reply
The hate people gave and still do is unreasonable
2021-09-17 00:36
#132
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Portugal cyn1cal
maybe boombl4>gla1ve on size
2021-09-12 17:32
1 reply
LMAO
2021-09-17 00:28
b1t= magisk s1mple better than device gla1ve better then boombl4 elec better than dupreeh perf= xyp9x and coaches dunno
2021-09-12 17:41
bit on a good day is crazy
2021-09-12 13:39
2 replies
#39
gla1ve | 
Denmark JKTP
Magisk was just good even on a bad day.
2021-09-12 14:13
1 reply
nio
2021-09-12 14:16
peak dupreeh is the same lvl as peak electronic imo men))
2021-09-12 14:22
4 replies
+1 but overall I'd agree that Electronic is a better Rifler
2021-09-12 15:46
3 replies
dupreeh has a cleaner/better aim, electronic has better sprays))
2021-09-15 15:05
2 replies
Dupreeh's crosshair placement is vv underrated Also Dupreeh as an overall player imo is more versatile than Electronic. Electronic is/can be a better second star but Dupreeh beats him in pretty much every other role
2021-09-15 15:09
1 reply
true!
2021-09-15 15:10
xyp9x > perfecto lol?
2021-09-17 13:01
Yeah but if astralis is on a good day they would destroy them too, I don’t think a comparison like that works
2021-09-12 15:37
1 reply
+1
2021-09-12 19:46
#2
B1T | 
Greece Noocklas
maybe, but navi on pgl vs astralis 2018: navi 16-8
2021-09-12 12:20
18 replies
#3
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Denmark pebblez
navi on pgl doesn't even exist yet
2021-09-12 12:22
17 replies
#7
B1T | 
Greece Noocklas
its easy to predict how easily they will destroy everyone
2021-09-12 12:29
14 replies
Oh no it isn’t and there are plenty of dark horses
2021-09-12 15:37
13 replies
oh I see, you want to belieeeeve, you want your name to be a fact. sorry but wont happen. S1mple cant wait any longer
2021-09-12 15:38
12 replies
Yeah so? This isn’t the last major and it’s not the only potential dark hose
2021-09-12 15:39
11 replies
idk how many majors are left, csgo is slowly dying, if big update doesnt show up or valve comes out with a new game. most of the players will probably stop playing. Maybe I am wrong and some lan with crowd its all thats missing to super motivate the teams
2021-09-12 15:42
10 replies
I couldn’t disagree more with you
2021-09-12 15:49
9 replies
final question, who do you cheer for at this final?
2021-09-12 15:51
8 replies
I like zywoo: someone send me this once’s imgur.com/4EPF4zS Lol
2021-09-12 15:53
7 replies
#154
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Netherlands SpiceNut
Flag doesn't check out
2021-09-15 06:38
6 replies
why does it?
2021-09-15 13:06
5 replies
#161
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Netherlands SpiceNut
*doesn't it It's just quite new to me that a Dutchie is appreciative towards a Frenchie Most Dutchies I know like the food and nature of France, but not the people
2021-09-15 14:46
4 replies
oh yeah ur spot on 0_0 well i dont have hate for entire peoples group )
2021-09-15 15:57
3 replies
#170
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Netherlands SpiceNut
Yeah me neither (in general), but I kinda like to stick to this train of thought 😇
2021-09-16 23:14
2 replies
nice comment amount) but i try to not do that yeah)
2021-09-16 23:17
1 reply
#190
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Netherlands SpiceNut
Tyty, didn't even realise it lol - made a screenshot of it :P But yeah I work in a branch where you can't prejudice, so formally I don't prejudice, but when it's informal, I kinda like it, with no intend to really hurt someone, just banter ;)
2021-09-17 00:40
navi on pgl eliminated in group stage hltv.org/events/2720/pgl-major-krakow-20..
2021-09-12 14:17
1 reply
#63
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Denmark pebblez
I know but I think he is talking about the upcoming PGL Major in Stockholm.
2021-09-12 15:12
#4
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Europe Joebama
idk navi are one of those teams that can beat any team depending on the day but hypothetically in a few bo3s i think 2018 astralis will definitely come out on top
2021-09-12 12:22
Well the level of CS goes up every year so hard to tell
2021-09-12 12:24
6 replies
Level of cs 2018 astralis played is unmatched to this day
2021-09-12 13:57
5 replies
+1
2021-09-12 16:14
+1
2021-09-12 16:16
+1 their cs was a scientific marvel
2021-09-17 00:38
+1 domination on an another level
2021-09-17 00:41
+1
2021-09-17 02:04
#6
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Sweden AFCHannes
Navi has b1t now instead of bot flamie
2021-09-12 12:25
Depends on the day. 2018 Navi beat 2018/19 Astralis on a number of occasions, like ESL One Cologne 2018 semi. B1T seems like an upgrade over flamie, and perfecto + boombl4 are far far better than edward + zeus. The scoreline would be like yesterday's Navi vs Heroic, most likely.
2021-09-12 12:29
6 replies
Onlineroic doesn't even come close to peak Astralis lul. And i wouldn't say that Navi from 2018 with motivated Zeus are much worse than current NaVi
2021-09-12 12:50
5 replies
NaVi from 2018 with motivated Zeus are much worse than current NaVi easily,what are u smoking bro
2021-09-12 13:09
Yes, Astralis peak >> Heroic. However, 2018 Navi only had s1mple + electronic hard carrying. 2021 Navi can have s1mp + elec + b1t + perfecto carrying. That's a whole new level compared to 2018 Navi, even if electronic is not that good anymore. If 2018 Navi could win 4 LANs, make 10 LAN GrandFinals, even against Prime Astralis of 2018, 2021 Navi is better than 2018 one. The team is balanced now. Also, motivated Zeus showed up in like 1 out of 50 games, so, let's not get into that.
2021-09-12 13:33
You do realise that duo of s1mple and electronic from 2021 would destroy astralis lol meta has changed
2021-09-12 13:36
2 replies
#41
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Sweden AlphaSwede
Lmao nice delusion. I dont like Astralis but if peak Astralis played todays Na'Vi Astralis would 16-4 them.
2021-09-12 14:15
1 reply
no way dude do you think they could keep up with the current meta imo no way they could
2021-09-12 15:10
Peak Astralis was the scary Astralis. Look at the their play-offs stats back in 2018. They have 0-2'd almost every team in big events and majors.
2021-09-12 12:45
7 replies
#30
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Korea ramza72
sorry but 2018 esl cologne navi rekt astralis and win trophy
2021-09-12 13:46
6 replies
Bro, Astralis won 4 majors and navi won 0 what's your point if navi can't show up on majors
2021-09-12 13:50
2 replies
#77
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Korea ramza72
yeah but final major against navi too , astralis and navi 2018 is rival
2021-09-12 15:30
1 reply
One-sided rivalry.
2021-09-17 02:09
#37
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Pakistan hawrU
cant win them all they are cursed not to win Esl one cologne
2021-09-12 14:02
Tables turned at Faceit London Major. That final was brutal.
2021-09-12 15:01
fluke navi was nowhere close in results or matchups in terms of the rest of 2018
2021-09-17 00:43
Na'vi any day. Astralis were the most efficient utility users back then. No other team were used to it.The other teams relied heavily on fragging and got destroyed by astralis. Nowadays every team focuses on efficient utility usage , so astralis doesn't have the same edge anymore.Props to them for evolving the meta tho.
2021-09-12 12:50
4 replies
0 IQ take
2021-09-12 16:12
1 reply
flag checks out.You and your brothers below.
2021-09-12 18:22
lol k
2021-09-12 16:15
0/8
2021-09-12 18:20
A tie to be fair - this Na'Vi is facing better teams than Astralis did in 2018
2021-09-12 12:52
8 replies
+1
2021-09-12 14:17
Non biased opinion, however it is wrong The teams Na'Vi are facing atm are struggling to perform consistently
2021-09-12 16:16
1 reply
Can agree to some point on this, but not quite sure what you mean. Gambit is very good and on a consistents level as well as Heroic and mostly Vitality. The international trend is however hurting CS:GO. The national (languaged) teams are more consistent than FaZe, mouz, G2 etc
2021-09-12 17:20
? More like Astralis were way ahead of everyone else AS THEY WERE CHANGING THE META Just like s1mple and ZywOo are on another tier that even someone on their peak day probably couldn't match.
2021-09-12 17:10
1 reply
#47 s1mple and ZywOo can carry their teams but not in every match. s1mple has been a beast lately tho I do think that the team play of Astralis 2018 > s1mple beastmode
2021-09-12 17:17
better team LMAO most of teams looks like fpls mixes who goes run and gun
2021-09-12 17:31
1 reply
2021-09-12 17:34
untrue top-10 has been weak all year outsde of top-3, in 2018 top-10 actually means something cuz teams had to stay consistent on LAN conditions
2021-09-17 00:46
Astralis mostly demolished Zeus+Edward and spineless liquid, once strong squads risen up danish powerhorse slowly dissolved into the void
2021-09-12 13:00
#14
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Russia Soawii
NaVi win easily. Even current Astralis(without Lucky though) could probably beat 2018 one just because competition gets much stronger every year
2021-09-12 13:02
3 replies
Don't forget that Astralis basically wrote the meta from 2017-2020
2021-09-12 14:20
2 replies
#74
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb
Thats what happened in 2012-13 by NiP, 2014-15 fnatic, 2016-17 by sk and 2018-19 by astralis.
2021-09-12 15:25
its 2021 bro
2021-09-17 02:16
#15
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Australia Torres_
Navi would clap Astralis
2021-09-12 13:07
Dude, meta was different of course NaVi would win
2021-09-12 13:23
such a stupid thread, how much brain you have to get to understand that level of cs is always growing lul
2021-09-12 13:35
#25
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Both teams were very different, so it would be impossible to say given the different meta game shift.
2021-09-12 13:41
#26
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Korea ramza72
ONLY NAVI AND S1MPLE 2018 CAN DESTROY ASTRALIS 2018 , but navi 2021 more very easy
2021-09-12 13:43
1 reply
Expected answer from peanut brain. Where is s0mple ? Even Edward stats and impact more bigger than him.
2021-09-12 13:48
Even iam fan of navi, i would say Astralis 2018 would win versus NaVi 2021. #besmartuser #usebrain
2021-09-12 13:44
1 reply
#59
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Ukraine Sla1ter
yeah prime astralis > prime navi but this is close matchup
2021-09-12 15:06
it would be much closer than in 2018 I know that much because the biggest issue then there was no consistent 3rd star. Now with s1mple, electronic, b1t/perfecto (well theoretically unless Heroic game happens again) it will be generally close, but I wouldnt know which team would consistently beat the other. AST/TL did destroy NaVi so consistently because edward/zeus were trash and flamie rarely showed up.
2021-09-12 13:55
2-0 no sweat astralis was unbeatable in 2018 this Navi is beatable by a lot of teams
2021-09-12 13:58
2 replies
#38
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Denmark LJSI
+1 Astralis even rekt them hard in the faceit major final, idk how this is even a discussion. Yes navi won that one time on esl cologne, but astralis at that time had 4 top 15 players which navi today does not have at all
2021-09-12 14:10
1 reply
Well tbf Navi players >>>> astralis players Astralis players had good stats because their team was so good , look at device now lul
2021-09-12 15:48
#40
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Spain Nepomu
Prime astralis was unbeatable, Navi has lost to many teams this year
2021-09-12 14:15
prime Astralis - prime Na'Vi Dust2: Na'Vi Mirage: Astralis Inferno: Astralis Nuke: Astralis Overpass: Astralis Vertigo: Astralis Ancient: Na'Vi Cobble: Na'Vi cs_Office: Na'Vi fy_pool_day: Na'Vi de_Rats: Na'Vi Asstrasheesh 5-6 Natus Winsire
2021-09-12 14:19
2 replies
+1 I think Navi wins on fy snow bsp
2021-09-12 15:49
train?????
2021-09-17 02:07
I think skillwise Navi has a little edge over Astralis 2018
2021-09-12 14:21
Stupid thread with a lot of people suffering from amnesia. This isnt even debateable
2021-09-12 14:26
16-12 astralis on danish worst map
2021-09-12 14:33
Astralis dominated 2018 & won 3 back to back majors, Gambit and Navi dominating 2021 so far Anyway 2018 astralis >> 2021 navi (Achievements wise)
2021-09-12 14:44
Astralis is the only team that has ever reached the ceiling of succesful professionalism by performing to the level they did.
2021-09-12 15:04
#57
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Ukraine Sla1ter
i would prefer astralis to win this matchup but match would be hella close
2021-09-12 15:05
Astralis by far.
2021-09-12 15:05
32-0 for navi and not even close, astralis so overrated.
2021-09-12 15:09
4 replies
#107
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India Arenston
ah yes the team with 4 fucking majors is overrrated.... fucking navi fans man
2021-09-12 15:56
3 replies
how much?
2021-09-12 15:56
1 reply
#110
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India Arenston
never made a bet in my life, too poor for that shit. your opinion was just that bad.
2021-09-12 16:01
4 majors without dropping a map
2021-09-12 16:06
I'd say it depends on if 2018 Astralis is aware of the meta/tricks used in 2021 (e.g. the one-way smoke on Nuke). Astralis in their prime had scary aim. Magisk could single-handedly anchor A-site from pit on Inferno. So if 2018's Astralis had today's strats? Probably them.
2021-09-12 15:14
Navi is bot team Watch them get pawned by vitality
2021-09-12 15:17
2021 navi. All of the teams improve.
2021-09-12 15:19
I'd say 60% Na'Vi 40% Astralis.
2021-09-12 15:20
wait the same navi which got hardcore destroyed by a big who antistratted navi? something, which the 2018 astralis was best at?7
2021-09-12 15:20
Astralis would win of course, Navi hasnt even won that much with this lineup that is supposed to be their best. Astralis was better.
2021-09-12 15:20
5 replies
They've gotten 1st or 2nd in every major tournament except an RMR with this lineup?
2021-09-12 15:32
4 replies
yeah but astralis won 4 majors lol and not counting everything else they won
2021-09-12 16:16
3 replies
Yeah of course, but the level of competition has only gone up since then right. They were so dominant because they were ahead of their time, now most teams are catching up
2021-09-12 16:34
2 replies
probably not as much a you would expect, there are of course optimizations of how things are done but in 2018 the game had already evolved a long way. I think the increase in general level of competition probably has much more diminishing returns especially after 2017 2018 compared to 2014-2017
2021-09-17 02:16
1 reply
I would disagree with you on that. Watching games today I think it's easy to see how smart teamplay has gotten. In 2018, Astralis were ahead of their time. In 2021, it seems like if you want to crack the top 5 you can no longer rely on individuals carrying, but the team as a whole. You HAVE to play at the level of 2018 Astralis to break the top-5. I think putting any top-5 team from today against Astralis in 2018 would be a 50-50 match.
2021-09-17 12:59
I think it's honestly really hard to say. I think it would be a close match if Na'vi were playing at their top level
2021-09-12 15:30
Are u smoking? Astralis would overstrat them any day.
2021-09-12 15:35
2018 astralis would destroy everyone, even 2019 astralis :)
2021-09-12 15:37
this navi is the best csgo team in history
2021-09-12 15:40
3 replies
#89
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France d0py
barelly winning over heroic, losing to big, 0 majors, relying hard on one player
2021-09-12 15:42
0/8
2021-09-12 15:47
No more LSD for you my friend
2021-09-15 15:26
I think some people are forgetting how good astralis were in their prime. I love Navi but I think astralis would win if both are in their prime
2021-09-12 15:47
Until Navi wins at least 1 major without dropping a map in the playoffs this isnt even a conversation
2021-09-12 15:54
Astralis would probably win, Na’Vi almost got beat by Heroic yesterday Na’Vi good, but not same performance as Prime Astralis Remember, Astralis was king at shutting down star players on Enemy team
2021-09-12 16:05
#120
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Brazil zzzzzzznt
not that easy cuz s1mple learned how to play against astralis
2021-09-12 16:21
1 reply
so that's the reason astralis isn't #1 anymore???? lol
2021-09-12 17:11
2018 astralis > any team ever
2021-09-12 17:02
2018 Astralis > 2015 Fnatic > 2013 NIP > idk i guess we can start talking navi, gambit, liquid (grand slam) now sorry but NaVi has a LOOOOOOONG way to go to even be comparable
2021-09-12 17:17
2 replies
2018 Astralis > 2017 SKG >< 2015 Fnatic?
2021-09-12 19:58
1 reply
#166
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb
skg didn't won a priod of 8-9 months when they were top. they were nowhere near peak fnatic
2021-09-15 15:30
#130
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Denmark Xipingu
3-2 Astralis or 3-2 Na'Vi It's a 50/50 for me, and I know it would be a 5-mapper. But can't determine the winner.
2021-09-12 17:28
4 replies
i disagree XD they are not as dominante as astralis was, only s1mple would be able to go crazy and frag
2021-09-12 19:49
1 reply
#146
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Denmark Xipingu
Maybe, but I could see b1t and electronic pop off if the match was important enough. If none of them would step up, sure, it would most likely be a 3-0.
2021-09-14 19:34
And which map would NAVI win? Astralis had a big win streak on nuke(navi s best map), dust 2 was astralis's playground and on every other map (even mirage) astralis would crush them
2021-09-17 00:32
1 reply
#219
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Denmark Xipingu
Nothing but a feeling really. I don't know.
2021-09-20 17:57
navi now isnt much more scary than back then, now there just isnt a team at Astralis' 2018 level so they can dominate
2021-09-12 19:49
1 reply
word my man, i don't get how people don't get this, must've not been watching the games
2021-09-15 07:03
NAVI have better individuals but Astralis had better team play and co-ordination that would probably give them the edge
2021-09-12 19:53
Astralis lan > Navi online era lmao
2021-09-14 19:38
2 replies
imagine calling NAVI onliners kek
2021-09-16 23:25
1 reply
B1t, Boombl4, and Perfecto are not proven in front of big crowds on LAN. Assuming we are talking a grand final match at a real LAN, Astralis thrived in that environment and this NAVI roster has never had that experience before
2021-09-17 02:54
Navi Lan >>>>>>>>>>> Astralis objectively
2021-09-14 19:40
2 replies
Wrong!! Astralis won more matches against Navi on lan in 2018. And as far as I can see, they neither lose a single match on lan against Navi in 2019. So it just seems like your make stuff up. Where is your proof that navi were undefeated against Astralis in 1,5 year?
2021-09-15 15:46
#213
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France FanchD
BAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA This is pure bullshit
2021-09-17 09:44
Keep in mind prime Astralis decided to change its line up because of Navi...a navi that didn't have its best line up yet kinda proves that Navi is better...specially considering they were winning astralis for a year and a half with 0 loss against them
2021-09-14 19:41
1 reply
Astralis are not eager to win after 2 seasons of full domination and 4 consecutive major wins. They Just dont give a fuck 2 of them take a pause from competetive to not burn out, device Just left to steal checks in top5 team without pressure.
2021-09-15 06:28
Navi with its worst line up was literally challenging prime astralis so image with that current line up...they would have raped Astralis, no question about it
2021-09-14 19:42
1 reply
I believe you forgot the faceit london major final where astralis were raping the shit out of navi, chill out cuz not a single navi line up could beat prime astralis
2021-09-17 00:35
prime Astralis could still probably win, you are deeply underestimating how good prime Astralis actually was
2021-09-15 06:30
#155
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Russia lpz126
Prime Astralis is LAN Prime Navi is online 2018 Astralis >> 2021 Navi I’m not saying 2021 Navi is bad, but 2018 Astralis is the strongest CS:GO team in history (we probably not gonna see any team reach that level in years)
2021-09-15 06:56
3 replies
Na'Vi as of now isn't even playing that well, they're just better than the rest of the teams, if only by a small margin They could've have been beat by either Vitality or Heroic, only a small RD
2021-09-15 07:02
2 replies
#158
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Russia lpz126
+1 cannot understand why Navi fanboy so delusional, just winning a few online events and try comparing to 4 majors Astralis, delusional
2021-09-15 07:06
1 reply
Na'Vi still a good team tho, just not the best that ever was
2021-09-15 07:07
i think it would be a stomp for navi in 2018 competition was a lot smaller then now in 2021
2021-09-16 23:17
4 replies
#177
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Brazil hugoooo
LMAO really!??? Are you comparing a full year of lans with a 100% online era?
2021-09-16 23:25
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who won last 2 lans?
2021-09-17 00:14
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#196
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Brazil hugoooo
Na'Vi won the last two lans in a spam of more than a year, what an amazing sampling. Astralis won multiple lans (and majors) on an era full of lans, with lots of competitive teams. Thanks for proving my point. s1m.. I mean, Na'Vi is very good but they are not even close to prime Astralis, hell Na'Vi is not even the clear #1, Gambit is still #1 by some people / analysts. Let's not forget that Gambit won 4 of their last 5 matches vs Na'Vi.
2021-09-17 02:02
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bro why you live in the past and when i say past i mean like 4 years ago...when did astralis win their last lan event ? like at the start of 2020 that was almost 2 years ago...all who say that events that are "online" should not count are sometihng thats just an excuse and you say astralis won a lot of lans but navi won a lot of lans aswell....2018 navi vs 2018 astralis,astralis are better but 2021 navi vs prime astralis, navi destroy them... just because of a simple fact : those strats are all outdated...if you dont agree then why didnt just astralis use all their tactics and stay #1 forever ? because there is someone who will always be better maybe not at the moment but in the future...so stop living in the past
2021-09-17 02:13
This is such a non-argument lol. It's like saying 2019 liquid vs 2018 astralis, who would win? I DUNNO! and we'll never know. saying peak x player is better than y because blank is so stupid in such comparisons.
2021-09-16 23:18
Astralis would just kill 2/3 navi members with nades and then it will be insta 3vs5
2021-09-16 23:20
#175
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Brazil hugoooo
Astralis would win by like 16x10 and s1mple would end up +23, all other Na'Vi players would end up negative
2021-09-16 23:24
1 reply
Yeah
2021-09-17 00:37
#193
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Tunisia Sk1zo10
Astralis 2018 is the strongest CS:GO team in history (LAN) Navi 2021 ( Online ) is good but not at the level as astralis was ! 65-35 % for astralis
2021-09-17 00:44
even 2019 summer liquid would beat this navi, it is no way near as strong as people think. it is good and the best at the moment obviously, but not in contention with all-time peaks
2021-09-17 00:48
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+1 2019 Liquid was forged by prime astralis
2021-09-17 02:58
2019 liquid was good but it didnt felt a lot of domination Navi have shown the potential since last year katowice lan In the span of these 2 years navi look much more dominant
2021-09-17 06:19
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they won 22 bo3/bo5 games in a row on LAN navi lost to big and definitely did not dominate this playoff bracket
2021-09-17 09:36
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Thats why it was a spicy one for navi. Liquid just came dominated and went far Much more emotions with navi
2021-09-17 20:23
astralis in 2018 were extreme utility tryhards but realistically their pure skill level was nowhere near what navi are today "omg but they won 3 majors in a row" yeah ok delusional
2021-09-17 02:16
Navi has a stronger map pool tho it may not seem to be , bit play wise they are way better as team and navi as the name says pulls insane 2vx clutches and now they have perfecto as a very valuable player for clutches And better firepower Astralis just abused the metas too much whereas navi are quite dynamic
2021-09-17 06:17
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astralis in 2018: 30 map nuke streak and the best on train and overpass navi is only dominant in nuke currently
2021-09-17 09:40
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Thats what i said they abused nade metas
2021-09-17 20:21
Lan vs online LAN =/= online
2021-09-17 13:02
#220
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Sweden Akoulad
16-5
2021-09-20 17:58
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