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TOP 5 HLTV 2021?
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Argentina franc1s 
IMO 1-s1mple (far far far far far far far far away) 2-Ax1le 3-ZywOo 4-Electronic 5-Hobbit/Sh1ro/Niko/ropz
2021-09-14 16:33
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#1
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Denmark pebblez
1. s1mple 2. ZywOo 3. Ax1Le/Hobbit 4. Ax1Le/Hobbit 5. sh1ro btw 4-Electronic LOL
2021-09-14 16:39
4 replies
electronic just wasnt too good in first half but he seems to be back as a top5-7 player now
2021-09-15 20:34
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all together he's like number 8-9 all year
2021-09-15 21:13
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#197
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India V1R33X
This.
2021-09-16 16:44
#143
shox | 
Finland wormi
I believe NiKo and/or electronic will conquer spots from top 5 but else like this for sure
2021-09-15 23:17
s1mple zywoo sh1ro hobbit ax1le/niko/ropz extremely unlikely electronic makes it
2021-09-14 16:56
9 replies
#123
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Taiwan T1dal
based on what?
2021-09-15 21:12
6 replies
his shit first half of the year lol
2021-09-15 21:15
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#129
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Taiwan T1dal
playing really well now
2021-09-15 21:19
4 replies
other top 5 players had a great first half and are still playing well now
2021-09-15 21:58
3 replies
Electronic will be top 6-10 this year I think
2021-09-16 06:49
#196
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Taiwan T1dal
niko ropz shiro axile hobbit are sub-par to their first half of the year performances, zywoo was shit first half
2021-09-16 15:35
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ropz is still 1.22 niko is still higher than electronic even now and same for hobbit they are all playing better and shit for zywOo is 1.27 rating which is still more than anyone whos not s1mple can dream of
2021-09-16 20:07
NiKo? Ropz?
2021-09-15 21:14
1 reply
thats just my wishful thinking a non-cis rifler makes it
2021-09-19 14:18
#3
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France WatZuki
1-s1mple 2-ZywOo 3-sh1ro 4-Electronic 5-Hobbit/NiKo 7-ropz
2021-09-14 16:57
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#92
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United States VShadow
Electronic has a lot of work to do in order to make top 5. He was really struggling for a while.
2021-09-15 20:40
3 replies
yeah electronic aint top 5 this year
2021-09-15 21:15
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#155
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United States VShadow
He could do it especially with how NAVI is doing. He just needs to start doing a bit better and hold it. A strong major performance could also do it.
2021-09-16 01:59
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Also if gambit doesn't make playoffs next events and the other teams like g2, navi, vita, mouz, will, then players like Niko, electronic, ropz might go higher
2021-09-16 06:52
would be great for Zy to make at least couple MVP's till the end of the year and get top2, otherwise need to be lucky to be in top3
2021-09-14 17:01
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lol no even if he keeps getting EVPs in the 4-5 events left he'll get top 2.
2021-09-14 17:05
#6
ZywOo | 
France Nwdn15
KEKW zywoo is easily top 2 gambit is finished, also if zywoo win major hes top 1 100%
2021-09-14 17:06
28 replies
gambit isnt finished LOL
2021-09-15 03:25
1 reply
Only time will tell
2021-09-15 12:29
haahahhahah negative IQ KekW
2021-09-15 07:38
#74
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Europe onepoint6
everything checks out xd
2021-09-15 12:21
Dumb
2021-09-15 12:29
imagine thinking that if zywoo wins a major he'll be top1,lmfao
2021-09-15 12:41
19 replies
he won't be top1, but i personnaly rather win a major than beeing top1
2021-09-15 20:29
18 replies
grand slam > major tho
2021-09-15 20:41
17 replies
XDDDDDDD
2021-09-15 20:53
10 replies
you can fluke a major,for grand slam you need consistency so idk why u're laughing,lmao
2021-09-15 20:55
9 replies
U are fucking delusional XDDDDD
2021-09-15 20:57
6 replies
and u have low iq,Literally a dogshit team like c9 fluked a major and u still think major > grand slam when for gland slam u need consistency to win more than just 1 event to win the whole thing,lmfao
2021-09-15 20:59
5 replies
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2021-09-15 21:01
4 replies
yeah,that's what i expected from a 13yo blonde from Denmark
2021-09-15 21:02
3 replies
XDdd rn
2021-09-15 21:06
2 replies
i don't mind,but if i were you i wouldn't call anything in ur parents house "yours"
2021-09-15 21:03
1 reply
Piss piss
2021-09-15 21:04
major > grand slam. Why? Because its a major. Thats it. Somethings in life we cannot understand. I agree with you, grand slam requires consistency, more difficult, but, ask any pro player, every1 will prefer a Major than a Grand Slam. Why? Because its a major.
2021-09-16 03:14
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i'd rather win grand slam anyway,for that u need consistency as mentioned.Major is just another big tournament which can be fluked,like c9 or gambit did,lol.
2021-09-16 11:10
by difficulty, yes, by achievement, absolutely not
2021-09-15 20:54
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by difficulty & by achievement yes,it's way harder and u can't fluke it like u can fluke a major
2021-09-15 20:55
2 replies
lol u are a casual
2021-09-15 20:56
1 reply
ok brainlet
2021-09-15 20:58
+1
2021-09-15 20:56
2021-09-15 20:56
device won a major mvp and didnt get top 1 so why would zywhoo lol he hasnt even won a event this year so far
2021-09-15 20:54
dev1ce had 2 major mvps in 2019 and still was behind s1mple with 2 normal mvps so not even close to be top 1, s1mple already has 5mvps+ 4evps and a lot of tournaments left theres no chance in the world s1mple cant lose top 1 this year
2021-09-15 23:14
Zywoo is top 2, but dont be so delusional
2021-09-15 23:14
i mean when they guys who make the hltv ranking say its a 2 way race between zyw0o and s1mple you know hes locked in 2nd so far
2021-09-15 21:16
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I think they don't know, especially when for top5 are competing 3 players from Gambit Thats just rivalry between players from 2019-2020 that was made by community due to comparing these two and baiting other csgo viewers Like the rivalry between Na`Vi vs Astralis clearly s1mple went to another level of their team goals, despite his previous targets, with that mentality Na`Vi are levitating under rest teams
2021-09-15 22:53
#7
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
If ZywOo gets just 1 MVP this year, I think that will be enough to confirm that number 2 spot. Ax1Le has two, sh1ro has one, I think Hobbit also has one, s1mple has 3... Think s1mple being number 1 is a good call but after that, it's complicated.
2021-09-14 17:23
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#8
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Denmark pebblez
I don't think he even needs to necessarily get an MVP if he keeps racking up EVPs as some of his EVPs could even be stronger than some MVPs people got lol.
2021-09-14 17:23
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#22
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
It's a different accolade altogether though...
2021-09-14 17:28
s1mple has 5 this year (MVPs I mean)
2021-09-14 17:25
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#12
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
He has 5? My apologies.
2021-09-14 17:25
3 replies
yeah, 3 in a row + Dreamhack and Blast Global Final hltv.org/news/32368/s1mple-claims-third-..
2021-09-14 17:26
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#17
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
I did read that and I think that's why my brain thought it was only 3...
2021-09-14 17:27
1 reply
no problem, mate
2021-09-14 17:28
#26
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Denmark pebblez
he really is the gaot, he's probably going to pass snakev1ce in most MVPs this year, fully deserved, idk honestly really delusional if people still deny he's not the goat
2021-09-14 17:29
8 replies
it's inevitable at this point, he needs only 3 more to surpass device and considering NAVI's current form, he might get it pretty easily. Hopefully NAVI will stay on this level and s1mple will finally get what he deserves and was dreaming about
2021-09-14 17:33
#33
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
"GOAT" is a subjective title. Even if s1mple does achieve all of those things, it is still subject to opinion what others classify as "GOAT".
2021-09-14 17:35
wtf you called me delusional pebblez((
2021-09-15 03:55
5 replies
he_car coming in with a based opinion! But I agree. It really does depend on what you call a G.O.A.T. I still think Device and Olof are the GOATs of CSGO. s1mple is top 5 tho. and s1mple has to be the best player in the world right? Who's your GOAT m8?
2021-09-15 12:15
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dev1ce, but im definitely changing my opinion when s1mple would win a major cause at that point he would have won everything.
2021-09-15 14:16
Olof goat? You must be kidding, with all due respect. Device, s1mple, coldzera and even Zywoo > olof. I guess olof is fifth on the list of goats
2021-09-16 03:19
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My personal list of goats: 1: s1mple 2: device 3: coldzera 4: zywoo 5: olof But Zywoo will be 2rd in a matter of time
2021-09-16 03:21
I am not kidding. I'm talking about a guy who won 3 majors, managed to play in a tier one team till 2020 and still plays superb for someone so old. And on Lan, we all saw how good he was. Olof is iconic af and to me is simply amazing.
2021-09-16 03:30
#10
NiKo | 
Latvia L1dm_
s1mple has already 5 mvp's this year so and h0bbit has one, u're right
2021-09-14 17:24
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#14
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
My apologies, that was my error. That only proves my aforementioned point even more of s1mple being number 1 as a safe prediction.
2021-09-14 17:26
nope. hobbit has 2 (epic league cis & blast spring finals)
2021-09-14 17:26
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#19
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
So Hobbit 2, Ax1Le 2, sh1ro 1?
2021-09-14 17:27
2 replies
yes
2021-09-14 17:28
1 reply
#23
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Thank you, friend. :)
2021-09-14 17:28
2021-09-14 17:27
#32
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Korea ramza72
s1mple 5 mvp blast dreamhack starladder cologne EPL14 most mvp in history
2021-09-14 17:35
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#36
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Yes, I was informed of this and I apologise for my error.
2021-09-14 17:36
wdym by most mvps in history ? he had 6 in 2018
2021-09-15 23:17
s1mple sh1ro Zywoo Hobbit SANJI
2021-09-14 17:24
6 replies
#27
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Taiwan T1dal
sanji has not been playing at a high enough level to enter the top-20 in my opinion
2021-09-14 17:30
3 replies
It’s not too late, Major is still up for grabs
2021-09-15 20:10
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#91
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Taiwan T1dal
unless he completely rekts everyone for the rest of the year, i dont see him making top 20
2021-09-15 20:37
1 reply
it was a joke man :p
2021-09-15 20:51
Sanji #15
2021-09-15 12:30
Delusional fan s1mple Zywoo Guerri Hobbit Ax1le Sh1ro
2021-09-16 03:23
far far far far far far far far away
2021-09-14 17:26
Was looking on the player rating page and to my suprise Jame was nr. 1 in most and ofc s1mple was almost always nr. 2 after Jame, but s1mple was nr. 1 in alot if them aswell. With that said my list is : 1.Simps 2. Zywo 3.ropz 4.jame 5.hobbit
2021-09-14 17:29
2 replies
where is jame #1 lol
2021-09-14 17:34
1 reply
They must have updated it like yesterday or something and now its post-EPL stats because Jame is completly erased from that page :D
2021-09-15 01:41
#25
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United States Valerence
1. niko 2. niko 3. Flamez 4. Stewie2k 5. S1mple
2021-09-14 17:29
depends on who wins the major if vitality win zywoo will prop be top 1 again
2021-09-14 17:31
12 replies
even if he wins the major he won't get top 1
2021-09-14 17:34
4 replies
it's possible if s1mple drops off and zywoo pops off, but very very unlikely
2021-09-16 03:15
3 replies
No. Its not possible.
2021-09-16 03:24
2 replies
zywoo wins iem fall, winter, major, fall finals, and blast global final all with MVPs, and s1mple drops dead last and gets like 1.1 rating or under at like all of those events, then yes but that requires a probability so low, that i dont even want to get into how low that is
2021-09-16 04:05
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Its not possible because Vitality will not win these tournaments and s1mple will never ever get 1.1 rating. This is maybe the best year from him in the whole career
2021-09-16 07:58
#35
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Korea ramza72
remember astralis ? 2 major win and device 1 mvp major still s1mple win top 1 2018
2021-09-14 17:35
5 replies
yeah buth thats device I really think if vitality win the major that will also implement that zywoos stats will increase and his stats are not that far of simples for 2021 so it could be a possability
2021-09-14 17:38
4 replies
Then you are dumb, major mvp isnt some kind of golden goal or some shit, that it literally negates everything what happend before and gives you autowin.
2021-09-15 23:00
3 replies
Youre acting like vitality is playing shit and that zywoos stats are way worse then simples buth its really close and anyone already disclosing a player when there is still 1/4 of the season left is delusional. It would most likely be simple buth you can not be 100% sure
2021-09-16 00:25
2 replies
Because they.... were playing like shit for half a year?
2021-09-16 00:50
1 reply
If youre talking about top 20 players the team placement doesnt matter the stats of a player matter
2021-09-16 00:52
Lmfao KekW even if zywoo win 2 majors in 2021 ( impossible ) , he wont be top 1 and i would say that navi will defenitely win the major :) and then s1 become the goat to his damn haters
2021-09-15 07:44
s1mple
2021-09-14 17:35
#38
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Argentina atriX^
Depends A LOT on how ZywOo fares for the remainder of the year. If he gets more deep runs like EPL then he can clinch the 2nd spot. Otherwise, the Gambit players have a lot more maps and all their players have more MVPs, EVPs and event wins. The current gap in rating ZywOo has isn't enough if he can't go deep in playoffs. IF ZywOo (Vitality) can do it then: 1. s1mple 2. ZywOo 3. Hobbit 4. Ax1Le 5. sh1ro If Vitality can't then: 1. s1mple 2. Hobbit 3. Ax1Le 4. ZywOo/sh1ro 5. sh1ro/ZywOo Unless he goes nuclear, Electronic is definitely not making the top5. I'm not even sure he'll make the top10. He hasn't had a great 2021 as of today. I'm also not sure where to rank NiKo and ropz. They've been great. Idk, sh1ro's inflated rating due to ridiculously low DPR messes everything up.
2021-09-14 17:39
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#41
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United States miragessbm
zywoo has 2nd free off stats, 1mvp and that 2nd place in Pro League also strengthen his case
2021-09-15 02:35
4 replies
#42
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Argentina atriX^
1 MVP? From where? EPL has been Vitality's best placement since January. hltv.org/stats/teams/events/9565/vitalit.. IEM summer was 3-4th as well but It's a tier below Blast Finals. So at best, he's got 3 EVPs. Ax1Le and Hobbit have 2 MVPs each, sh1ro has 1 and too many EVPs to count off the top of my head. A 1.28 rating isn't enough if your team can't reach playoffs.
2021-09-15 02:43
3 replies
+1
2021-09-15 20:12
+1
2021-09-15 20:54
+1 thanks
2021-09-16 03:25
i dont think that zywoo needs more deep runs. in 2019 navi reached literally 1 grand final, they were even skipping events, they were 8th best team of the year, s1mple got only 1 mvp and yet he was second. imo zywoos evps will be enough. and about that stat part. dont look only at overall rating bcs its not based only on that at all zywoo - 1.28 with 1.35 impact and 83.1 adr, 1.27 vs top5, 1.29 vs top10, 1.28 vs top20 sh1ro - 1.23 with 1.14 impact and 75.5 adr, 1.13 vs top5, 1.19 vs top10, 1.21 vs top20 hobbit - 1.19 with 1.22 impact and 82.5 adr, 1.13 vs top5, 1.18 vs top10, 1.17 vs top20 ax1le - 1.19 with 1.18 impact and 81.3 adr, 1.13 vs top5, 1.14 vs top10, 1.14 vs top20 that difference especially in impact rating and rating vs top5/10 is just massive and i just dont see(based on how hltv ranking works last 2 years) hobbit/sh1ro/ax1le being ranked above zywoo just bcs of achievments
2021-09-15 08:00
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+1 ZywOo is simply levels above everyone except s1mple :)
2021-09-15 12:18
#82
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Argentina atriX^
I consider deep runs as top1-top4. NAVI had 7 top1-top4 runs in 2019. s1mple had 1 MVP and 5 EVPs. HOWEVER, you are probably right because Device had an even better year than Gambit players with higher stats, Major MVP and he still didn't outrank s1mple. The only difference is that NAVI 2019 had a much better year than Vitality 2021 and device & s1mple were very close in terms of maps played which certainly isn't the case between Vitality and Gambit. But yes, I forgot 2019 because I took a break from CS for the better part of that year.
2021-09-15 17:16
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You have a point with maps played for sure and yea, vitality this year is meh but I still think that Zywoo will take that second place bcs his stats are nuts and he is relevant enough imo. Either way your arguments make sense and it will be pretty interesting
2021-09-15 20:02
i can see your flair but you are stupid if you think zywoo doesnt deserve 2nd place and you know it
2021-09-14 17:44
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#44
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Argentina atriX^
If we ended the year today, ZywOo not getting the #2 is equal to s1mple not having won a major. CS is a team game and Vitality hasn't been able to help ZywOo get it. Doesn't mean that it's all on their teammates but you get my point. Of course he "deserves it" but the reality is that: Hobbit: 2 MVPs, 3 or 4 EVPS (at least), 4 event wins, 3 runner-ups. 1.19 rating, 1.22 impact, 186 maps Ax1Le 2 MVPs, 3 or 4 EVPS (at least), 4 event wins, 3 runner-ups. 1.19 rating, 1.18 impact, 186 maps ZywOo 0 MVPs, 3 EVPs (at least), 1 runner-up. 1.28 rating, 1.35 impact, 103 maps. I don't know where the line between stats and placings is drawn but ZywOo has a super high rating but without the wins nor the deep playoff runs to go with it. In the end, this conversation is pointless because Vitality seem to have pulled their shit together and he'll probably get at least the deep playoff runs he needs to go along with his rating.
2021-09-15 03:15
1. s1mple 2. zywoo 3. sh1ro 4. Ax1le 5. Hobbit order can change, but these 5 are inarguably top5 right now
2021-09-15 02:49
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sh1ro /ax1le/ hobbit are 3,4 and 5 without any order rn
2021-09-15 08:55
#46
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Russia k0wkuH
if NaVi wins major: 1. s1mple 2. Ax1le 3. H0bbit 4. ZywOo 5. B1t/electronic If Vitality wins major (lol) 1. s1mple 2. ZywOo 3. Ax1le 4. H0bbit 5. sh1ro If Gambit wins major: 1. s1mple 2/3/4. H0bbit/Ax1le/sh1ro (depends on MVP) 5. ZywOo If other team wins: 1. s1mple 2. Ax1le 3. ZywOo 4/5. can be all of these players depends on who goes deeper in major
2021-09-15 03:40
1. NiKo 2. s1mple 3. ZywOo rest irrelevant
2021-09-15 07:23
16 replies
KekW
2021-09-15 07:46
15 replies
:D
2021-09-15 07:46
14 replies
But defenitely Niko >>>> zywoo
2021-09-15 07:47
13 replies
yep imo ZywOo is more impactful while NiKo is more mechanically skilled
2021-09-15 07:51
3 replies
Zywoo better all around player NiKo better mechanically
2021-09-15 08:38
2 replies
+1
2021-09-15 09:03
+1
2021-09-15 12:10
0/8
2021-09-15 20:13
8 replies
0/8
2021-09-15 20:40
7 replies
Why do you think NiKo is better than ZywOo?
2021-09-15 20:40
6 replies
Niko > ZywOo mechanically ZywOo > Niko all around player
2021-09-15 20:42
5 replies
Mechanically means what exactly?
2021-09-15 20:42
4 replies
Skill wise , niko is more skilled aiming wise but zywoo is more useful to a team
2021-09-15 20:44
3 replies
Yeah that's a weak ass bait.
2021-09-15 20:50
2 replies
No
2021-09-15 20:54
1 reply
Prove it then.
2021-09-15 20:54
#54
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Brazil Bactuga
1. S1mple 2. ZywOo 3. Hobbit 4. Shiro 5. Ax1le
2021-09-15 07:48
#56
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Czech Republic Poloolpp
1. s1mple 2. zywoo 3. hobbit 4. sh1ro 5. electronic
2021-09-15 07:59
Ax1le has huge achievements, but ZywOo's rating is too high. However, if Ax1le wins a couple more MVPs with high rating, ZywOo's spot is in trouble....
2021-09-15 08:10
6 replies
zywoo hasnt won an mvp or a title this year. the only relevant he has done is making semis at iem summer(which isn't even a top t1 event) and 2nd at epl(which is pretty good, but needs more) ax1le tho(2 mvps+ 1st at iem summer, iem kato, epic league cis, blast spring finals, 2nd at epl, starladder cis rmr, and made playoffs at every big event this year)
2021-09-16 03:16
5 replies
And? Hltv top20 isn't about achievements that much anymore
2021-09-16 05:00
4 replies
only reason that looks like the case is bc s1mple was #2 over device. Problem is, s1mple had much better results than it seemed. Vitality doesn't have that: they have 2 semifinal+ finishes and no event wins.
2021-09-16 06:11
3 replies
Navi was 8th best team of the year in 2019 and difference in stats between device and s1mple was waaaay closer than it is between Zywoo and sh1ro/ax1le/hobbit... Zywoo is relevant in big events, he has some deeper runs and his performance in numbers is just superior. I'm like 100% sure that he will be second
2021-09-16 07:18
2 replies
Not necessarily. HLTV doesn't use a "Top20" filter for the cover page rating. They choose all relevant Tier1 events as the filter for ratings. In that, ZywOo is like 0.05-0.07 higher than sh1ro/Hobbit/Ax1le. However, ZywOo has half as many maps as them (reason why Stavn and BlameF were lower-ranked in 2020, even with high rating and multiple events victories). Basically 3-4 playoffs appearances in total, and 2 semifinal+ finishes after 9 months. Not to mention 0 MVPs + 0 trophies, barely a few EVPs. His playoffs rating also would be kinda insignificant, because he's played very few playoffs maps, several times lesser maps than Gambit. Also, bombed out last-place many times. In Contrast, Ax1le/sh1ro/Hobbit's ratings are for actual important playoff matches, rather than group stage ratings. That's because Gambit made 9-10 total grandFinals, won 7 events, 5 big ones, including Katowice, have many MVPs, and EVPs for almost every event. In addition, all of these stats after double as many maps as ZywOo, and on playoffs. As for 2019 s1mple, Navi made playoffs of literally EVERY single event in 2019, including the majors. They had 8 Top3/Top4+ overall finishes, 1 victory. s1mple had 1 MVP + 5-6 big event EVPs, including Major EVPs. In addition, s1mple's rating on big events and higher opponents was even 0.10 higher than device. So, it's not the same case, yet. These last 3 months can change a lot for ZywOo and Gambit players.
2021-09-16 09:22
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Rating of s1mple was only 0.05 higher than rating of device and his impact rating was actually only 0.01 higher in big events. Now look at impact rating of gambit players and compare it with Zywoo. You can also compare difference between s1mple and device in stats VS top5/10/20 and then look at sh1ro/ax1le/hobbit VS Zywoo. That difference is just massive... I agree with that maps played argument but I still can't see Zywoo not being ranked 2nd tho
2021-09-16 09:34
TOP EVENTS 2021: hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2021-01.. 1. s1mple 2. ZywOo 3. sh1ro 4. Hobbit 5. AxiLe 6. electronic 7. NiKo
2021-09-15 08:28
#60
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Latvia heywire
well this is my feelings and i havn't looked at stats at all. 1.s1mple 2. Zywoo 3. electronic 4. hobbit 5. Ax1le
2021-09-15 08:22
4 replies
electronic will surely not be top3, not even top5 for like 95%
2021-09-15 08:27
3 replies
#62
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Latvia heywire
yeah but he got like so many mvps in finals he always steps up when it matters.
2021-09-15 08:28
2 replies
thats true but its still from whole year and its based on stats. he is top3 caliber player without a doubt but like i said there is no way that he will make hltv top5
2021-09-15 08:29
1 reply
#64
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Latvia heywire
yeah im just saying it is for feelings i think he top 5 player due to this.
2021-09-15 08:29
1. s1mple 2. Ax1Le 3. ZywOo 4. sh1ro 5. electronic 6. Hobbit
2021-09-15 08:32
#67
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Korea Shazil
s1mple zywoo sh1ro hobbit ropz
2021-09-15 08:48
you can tell this game is slowly dying when all the first worlders left. i remember when the top 20 was full of danish/swedish people, now its mostly eastern european
2021-09-15 09:05
#78
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Bulgaria Gazellex
1- s1mple 2- ZywOo 3- sh1ro 4- hobbit 5,6,7- electronic/ropz/ax1Le
2021-09-15 12:39
me 🥇 S1mple 🥈 Ax1le 🥉 Sh1ro 🏅 Zywoo 🏅 Nafany
2021-09-15 14:19
3 replies
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2021-09-15 20:07
Nafany??? WTF
2021-09-16 03:33
0/8
2021-09-16 05:00
1- KennyS closed
2021-09-15 20:35
#101
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Sweden AFCHannes
will blameF be in top20 this year?
2021-09-15 20:52
1 reply
Yes
2021-09-16 03:33
ax1le has been having a rought time since Cologne, I dont think he will get top 5 this year
2021-09-15 20:53
I realize that Zywoo is great player with highest personal skill, but wtf, he is having 0 MVP this year, how can he be placed above Ax1le and Hobbit who have 2 MVP each?
2021-09-15 20:55
1 reply
Why was s1mple above device and elige in 2019?
2021-09-16 05:01
1. rain 2. s1mple 3. tenZ 4. ropz 5. dexter
2021-09-15 22:00
top 10 will be fuuuuuuuuuull of cis players, mark my words
2021-09-15 23:04
4 replies
no doubt lol, top 2 teams in the world are CIS
2021-09-15 23:10
3 replies
i wonder where will perfecto be, he won soo many clutches this year
2021-09-15 23:14
2 replies
Not even in top 20 bro(( HLTV only watch on rating not on true impact
2021-09-15 23:15
1 reply
damn, seeing NiKo over Perfecto will be painful af man, all aim no brain not my thing xd
2021-09-15 23:19
1. s1mple 2. zywoo 3. Should be hobbit but he won't because HLTV only watch on rating
2021-09-15 23:10
I think with lan coming back zywoo will still be a solid #2 for this year
2021-09-15 23:11
#148
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Japan Legoshi
1.snax 2.s0mple 3.zyw00 4. Me 5. Art
2021-09-16 00:51
1 reply
Oh yeah s1mple = 0 majors my grandpa = 0 majors thus s1mple = mygrandpa
2021-09-16 00:54
s1mple ZywOo sh1ro NiKo ropz
2021-09-16 00:53
1.s1mple 2.ZywOo 3.sh1ro 4.electronic 5.Hobbit
2021-09-16 01:00
s1mple sh1ro zywoo ax1le hobbit so far this is how it should be for me but there is still so much time that everything can change myb except #1
2021-09-16 01:10
#154
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Brazil thim0
1 guerri 2 s1mple 3 i 4 dont 5 care
2021-09-16 01:46
1 reply
+1
2021-09-16 03:33
1. p0mple 2. hobbit (underrated af) 3. zywho 4. electronic 5. god try
2021-09-16 03:07
1 reply
+1 GOD try
2021-09-16 03:32
#157
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Portugal H3NR
1. s1mple 2. s1mple 3. s1mple 4. Ax1le 5. Zywoo Anyone that gets the 2nd spot doesn't really deserve to be "so close" to s1mple. He's just on a whole different level.
2021-09-16 03:10
s1mple hobbit sh1ro zywoo ax1le
2021-09-16 03:11
#159
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Brazil ramonzin
s0mple sh0ro zywho
2021-09-16 03:11
ZywOo Hobbit Ax1Le sh1ro NiKo
2021-09-16 03:23
Ax1le is not even close to Top 2, neither is electronic to 4, but they will still probably place inside Top 10
2021-09-16 03:32
Zywoo will be most likely 2nd. Honestly no idea why are people putting sh1ro or ax1le above him lol...
2021-09-16 05:03
1 reply
Many people here don't know how the list works and overrate team achievements while rating players.
2021-09-16 06:25
I think top 5 is set already with s1mple being top and the top 2-5 is between zywoo and gambit trio. By rating zywoo should be 2nd, but due to few number of maps played compared to Gambit, some of the gambit players might be placed ahead of zywoo, also they have mvps but zywoo does not. Maybe like this for now 1 - S1mple 2 - Hobbit 3 - Ax1le 4 - Sh1ro 5 - zywoo I don't see any other players coming to top 5 unless gambit underperforms massively till the end of the year and don't go to playoffs and other players like electronic, Niko, ropz if they perform really well in the next events and their respective teams go deep in the playoffs then they might be higher than top 5
2021-09-16 06:47
1 reply
Zywoo 2nd
2021-09-16 07:16
EliGE top 10?😥
2021-09-16 07:17
2 replies
Maybe
2021-09-16 07:59
I hope so. But: s1mple, ax1le, hobbit, sh1ro, zywoo, ropz, niko, jame... we already have 8 in front of him
2021-09-16 08:00
Me Me Me Me Me
2021-09-16 08:00
1. Rez 2. Dev1ce 3. Hampus 4. Plopski 5. LNZ
2021-09-16 09:40
#198
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Canada Dubsyy
idk about that but all i know is naf and elige are on top20 dont @me
2021-09-16 16:48
#199
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United Kingdom LeMonkke
Navi will have 3/5 players in top 10 imo, s1mple at 1, bit at idk like 9 or 10 and electronic 7 or 8, maybe 6 at a push
2021-09-16 16:49
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