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Why cant I study? (poker)
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United States KKonian 
I bought a 1 month premium membership to a poker training site (50% off for $50) that has a lot of courses and learning content. I said I was going to do it for like 4-5 hours a day like a job or school course because I want to get good at poker. After 8 days I'm only 10% through with the masterclass course I've been doing for only like 30 mins-1 hour per day . I've never been able to study or pay attention in school so my brain isn't good with shit like this. After a little bit I just turn it off and watch twitch, play chess, or listen to music instead while playing poker instead of studying
2021-09-16 19:14
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paying to study poker wtf
2021-09-16 19:16
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Its really not that far fetched. It pays for itself if you get better. There is also a lot to poker. Its not just doing whatever you think seems good like playing csgo
2021-09-16 19:51
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#61
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Russia Trueteller
Non poker players will never understand the complexieties of poker. That's why most normies think poker is gambling, and the people who understands poker (and math) think just the opposite. What are you playing, MTTs, STTs or cashgame? You really should not study for different game types at the same time. It's better to study to improve one part of your game. Contrary to popular belief, they play a lot different from each other in very key situations. Sitting down and actually studying and using Equilab or whatever program you are using to analyze ranges is hard and it takes discipline. For people that can not force themselves to sit 5 hours and analyzing, I'd recommend watching the absolute top tier of Twitch streamers for the specific area you want to get better in. And top tier doesn't mean the most popular by the way. Lex Veldhuis is a huge donkey (it's not insulting, it's a poker term mods), while I find some people with 50 viewers who are absolute beasts. They talk a lot about how they think when they are playing, and you might have an easier time to learn by listening and seeing what they do, rather than to read and study concepts. If you tell me what game mode you want to improve in, I will give you my personal favorites for streamers to watch for that area. Honestly I must say I think it was most likely a mistake to buy access for training, or poker coaching. If you are a losing player in general, then you are making too many mistakes for even training to help. First you must learn some general ideas, poker in that way is similar to chess, if you don't know any openings, you have no use of learning end game strategy because you will never even have a chance to use that knowledge in a game. If you have a smartphone, there was an app called DTO, where you get a hand and you decide how to play it and the app gives you feedback after the hand is over how well you did on every street of action. The free verison allowed like 20 hands per day, but when I used it a few years ago, you just had to close the app and re-open it to get 20 more tries (it's probably fixed now).
2021-09-16 21:08
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copy paste
2021-09-16 21:07
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#64
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Russia Trueteller
It's not copy paste. I used to make a living from poker, and still have friends in the high stakes community, so I'm trying to help this guy get his poker play in order to become a winning player, no matter what type of poker he is playing.
2021-09-16 21:13
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What resources would you recommend if you were to start from ground up these days? Does it make sense to study Sklansky/Harrington? Are modern books like modern poker theory of any value compared to some private coaching or sources like raiseyouredge? To be more concrete what would be the best way and what sources do I need to learn the game if I want to become mid stakes reg? I started to learn poker long ago, but I found that other activities I was doing have better return/time+effort invested. Now I have some free time, which I would like to devote to studying poker.
2021-09-17 13:04
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I was never much of a poker literature guy so can't recommend any specific books. Of course guys like Brunson, Sklansky and Harrington are absolute beasts (especially Sklansky imo), but compared to modern standards, they would get beaten by the high stakes regs that plays today online (in a live setting they would still hold their own easily because their knowledge is deep and experience is unmatched). Modern Poker Theory seems like a very good book, I haven't read but looks helpful. Anything that can teach you the concepts of GTO is going to benifit you if you can learn to understand and implement it to your game. Even watching some breakdowns from Doug Polk like he used to do on his Youtube channel can be very helpful, Doug is probably the most GTO-player when it comes to heads-up poker, and just hearing him analyzing hands is both entertaining and educational. Mid-stakes cash game or mid-stakes MTTs by the way? Private coaching is better for cash game and courses like RYE better for MTTs (bencb is a true tournament beast). For tournament I say the most important thing is ICM, because it changes up how the game should be played. If you are a shortstack, it doesn't change but with a middle stack, you want to bluff a lot less, and hope to climb the prize ladder without losing chips. When you're shortstack it plays different and when you're chipleading you are supposed to put pressure on the others. Back when you played poker it was probably standard to raise 3x-4x BB in both cashgame and MTTs and nowadays, the preflop sizes and also the continutation bets are a lot smaller. Look twitch-streamers who play poker, guys like innerpsycho for cashgame clues (he speaks russian/english but you can still see how he plays, he's pretty ABC player but very solid, winning NL500 reg), guys like bencb (Raiseyouredge on twitch) bigbluffzinc for MTTs, both very solid highstakes MTT regs. I wouldn't recommend coaching until you are a winning player but want to win even more. If you are losing player coaching can't really help. Sure it can fix a few mistakes but most likely you make a lot more. Best tool for me to get back into the grind was just watching the top-regs and copying their playstyle. Pay attention, and grind a tourney/cash game table on the side and try different concepts as you go along. Listen to what they say when they explain their thought processes, and don't be afraid to ask if you think they play weird, because with 99% certainty it's not weird, but they have valid reasons for what they do. Sometimes it can be small details like "blockers", this is a concept from Omaha, but the old guard like Brunson & co never really knew about these details, that's why I go for something more modern books over the old ones. Also back in the days they didn't really float flops a lot with backdoor draws, but since times have changed and betsizes got smaller, it's very often worth considering even backdoor draws, 4% chance for a backdoor flushdraw doesn't sound like much but when you a millions of hands, we're talking about 40 000 flushes. Buy that modern theory book (and let me know if I should buy it too)), a poker HUD like Pokertracker or Holdem Manager (this is for getting fast info on how often people enters pots, bets, raises etc), and then save your money and instead use the free tools accessible, like Equilab for understanding how different ranges plays against each other. Update your knowledge around pot odds, realizing equity and listen to the pros who give all this free info while streaming. It's a lot of work, but you just do it little by little and you will get better and better. Use the PT or HEM software to save any interesting hands you might not be sure if you played correctly or not, and you can analyze it later with Equilab or later if you decide to speak to a coach. And for cashgame the absolute most important thing is table selection. Unless you play zoom/fastforward you need to be very careful who you decide to play. Back in the days you probably (like me) just joined any random table and sat there until no one was left or you got bored and left. Nowadays the regs basically are hunting fish. As soon as a the fish is busted from the table, the other 5 regs on the table just leaves. It's simply not worth the time or effort to play against equally strong players, the money comes from spotting and exploiting the fishes. If you make a comeback be ready you will be hunted by regs every time you sit down until they either realize you good enough to hang with them, or until you are busted. Definitely wouldn't recommend just jumping on midstakes cashgame, it's way harder than it was 15-20 years ago.
2021-09-17 15:53
I disagree that’s it was a mistake to buy access to a training site. I’m probably not as bad or new as the post makes it seem like I would be and I’m not a losing player in micro mtts. Glad I was able to get a response from someone who actually knows about poker
2021-09-16 21:12
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#68
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Russia Trueteller
So you are a winning micro-MTT player? And want to improve your MTT play to reach low- and then mid-stakes, is that correct? In micros you really don't have to play GTO (I assume you know the meaning of that term) to win, so courses like RYE (Raise Your Edge) is not really necessary (but of course helpful). But it's one thing to understand a concept and another to be able to remember it and implement in your game. In micros there are so many bad players that you have more use of understanding exploitative plays than GTO. To answer your question "why I can't study", everyone has different strenghts and weaknesses when it comes to studying, that's why I think the school system mostly everywhere is primitive. It only rewards the theoretical people that can read a text and remember facts, but the people who are more practical and learn more from seeing and trying themselves are "bad students". So are you more of a practical learning type of guy or a theoretical? If you are more practical, I will happily look up my old computer for some nice streamers you can watch and you can see how they play, at the same time I'd suggest you play 1 or max 2 micro-MTTs on the side and try different concepts they talk about and you studied as soon as you see a similar spot. If you are more theoretical, then if you can't study for 5 hours in a row, do like 1 hour of studying, and take 1 hour break to relax and think about the concepts, maybe even play some cheap 180 player SNG (plays similar to MTTs) while trying to implement different ideas you read about. Playing and implementing the concepts you study about will greatly help you remember and making your brain really used to the idea that some things that might seem risky or bad, is actually a huge +EV boost. And lastly never be results oriented in poker. The outcome of the hand it's never the deciding factor whether you played good or not. If you fold the best hand in a three-way pot and you see at showdown that someone else would've hit a flush and beaten your hand, then that doesn't mean you made a good fold. If you were ahead, it was a bad fold, simple as that. Same if you are all-in as a 10% underdog on turn, and hit one of your winning cards, that doesn't mean it was a good play. Focus on playing every hand as good as you possible can. In micros you will have a lot of crazy bluffers, but there are also a lot of nitty players who practically never bluffs, that's why I would never recommend a course or poker coaching for micro-players, but instead invest in a program like PokerTracker or HoldEm Manager, that shows a HUD and keep tracks of how frequently players enters the pot, how often they bet, etc etc, which can help you make exploitative plays against those specific people.
2021-09-16 21:43
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Also heres my sharkscope graph. That would probably give you a better idea about me as a player imgur.com/a/hToZPmY I went on an ungodly losing streak around the 1250 game mark where I could hardly even min cash a micro mtt and the game wasnt even playable I do watch Spraggy and Lex on twitch occasionally. I just bought pokertracker4 yeserday. Exploitative play is the best for micros and knowing GTO is what allows you to know what adjustments to make to exploit. I'm just trying to build a solid foundation to where I can feel comfortable buying into $11-$33 tournaments and be a winning player then go from there with advanced learning and study to improve further. Because all the information I have learned so far is incomplete. Like only watching 10 seconds of information on a 1 minute long video if that makes sense.
2021-09-16 22:18
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#77
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Russia Trueteller
You're doing very well mens. Now I got a lot less worried about you! Thought it was gonna be flat or down, maybe even zig-zaggy patern, but looks like you are going in the right direction. Just a minor downswing but you made it up and then some very fast. What average ROI you have? And how many tournaments played (the count)? Do you use PT or HEM, if not I really recommend in investing in that.
2021-09-16 22:19
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my total ROI is 38% and average ROI is listed at 101% but I played freerolls when I first started playing cashing for like $10 $20 and $20 and cashing in free rolls gives crazy ROI so I dont know what it would actually be without them. My game count is listed at the bottom of the graph
2021-09-16 22:24
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#79
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Russia Trueteller
it's not important and really not telling anything about your play, was just curious anyway. How about my 2nd question, do you have a HUD, maybe even Sharkscope HUD? I think HUD is very very very very important if you want to climb to higher stakes. If you play 4 tables or more like most people do, then it's almost impossible to keep track of who are lunatics and who are nits.
2021-09-16 22:26
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I just bought PT4 yesterday. Was rolling with no hud for a month or 2 now because my hard drive broke and the free hud I was using just stopped working
2021-09-16 22:28
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#83
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Russia Trueteller
Mens you are set for success. I got HEM myself but PT4 is better. See on you midstakes when I get back to poker! Try to force yourself to study and take some breaks and stuff, go 50/50, so you don't waste your month and your 50 bucks. But after seeing graph and hearing you talk I'm not scared for you, I think you will be richer than me soon.
2021-09-16 22:29
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Thanks I hope. Right now there are 2 timelines in two worlds being split. One where I find a way to study and become really good at poker and one where I dont and stay where I am forever
2021-09-16 22:37
#88
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Russia Trueteller
You should look in your course material for ICM course. That's what makes you money in micros. In a tournament with $1 buy-in with like 3000 players and you finish 10th place you get like $13, while the winner takes $300 in his pocket. Studying concepts about ICM will be the difference from barely making a living to advancing to higher stakes.
2021-09-16 22:37
i dont understand shit but i read it and it seems like you put up rly high quality advice, keep up the good posts :D
2021-09-16 22:29
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#87
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Russia Trueteller
Yeah, I wrote way too much though I noticed afterwards. This guy wasn't as noob as I first thought, he can play and win. But thanks for compliment, I'm passionate for poker that's for sure. For all houses I lost on betting I won back at poker haha.
2021-09-16 22:34
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:DDD
2021-09-16 23:04
#125
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Poland Hanse
I played poker for almost 10 years now and you talk shit, this is gambling with some extras, just quit lying to yourself
2021-09-17 21:55
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Its gambling because there is money involved but over a long period if you're a winning or losing player will be determined by skill instead of just spinning a slot and having it being completely up to RNG
2021-09-17 22:04
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#129
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Poland Hanse
yes exactly, but still gambling
2021-09-17 22:13
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Yeah but its not "just gambling" Because there is skill involved. Rolling a dice and getting paid if it lands on 4-6 and losing your money if it lands on 1-3 is just gambling. Playing a game with money involved isnt in the same tier as playing a pure RNG machine with money involved. Assuming your poker experience over the 10 years you played is more than just going to a casino once a month and losing $300 playing poker you should know this
2021-09-17 22:20
played poker for 10 years and still not understood it's a skill game more than a luck game you must've lost a lot lol always losing players say it's about luck, and say they are unlucky :)
2021-09-17 22:43
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#139
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Poland Hanse
cry lmao
2021-09-17 23:25
poker is gambling, anything that involves money is gambling.
2021-09-17 21:58
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stocks?
2021-09-17 22:19
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in a sense, yes
2021-09-17 23:07
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Very simplistic view of the world, but I wont argue with you. Enjoy your evening
2021-09-18 22:02
if I offer you this deal we draw 1 card from a deck if 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, or 7 comes up I win $10k from you if 8, 9, 10, Jack, Queen, King, Ace comes up you win $10k from me if you do it one time, then it's a gamble (you have almost 54% chance to win) in this scenario I understand if you don't want to gamble, if we only draw 1 card but if I offer you the same deal, but instead of just drawing 1 card, we will draw 1 million cards, then you would be a fool to not accept. The more hands you play, the less gambling it's about, and eventually it becomes a certainty you will win. That's why poker is classified as a skill game, not a luck game. Luck is a big part on hand to hand basis. But over the course over millions of hands, it's more about skill than luck.
2021-09-17 22:40
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i get your point, but still people will risk against all the odds and maths
2021-09-17 23:08
+1 That's why I stopped playing poker (for fun) - when I found out how bad I was and how much it would take to become good = math
2021-09-18 23:06
+1 XD
2021-09-16 20:47
poker = wasted time
2021-09-16 19:16
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Its something fun to do and can make money
2021-09-16 19:18
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but u can lost everything, imagine u winning money 1 month and in one day u lost everything
2021-09-16 19:20
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Thats where bankroll management comes in
2021-09-16 19:21
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and that's where all the fun ends
2021-09-16 19:22
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bankroll management is having 100 tournament buy ins worth of money instead of just buying into huge tournaments or whatever
2021-09-16 19:23
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oh than kk but still poker is a bit risky game, same with betting but in poker u definitely must have strong nerves
2021-09-16 19:26
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#35
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Brazil JaoLauton
"risk comes from not knowing what you're doing" ~~ Warren Buffet
2021-09-16 20:17
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what kind of food is on a Warren Buffet?
2021-09-16 20:40
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#63
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Brazil JaoLauton
warren sprout soup? Money nuggets? maybe?
2021-09-16 21:09
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sounds nice
2021-09-16 21:21
#41
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Ukraine Masak0vske
even with bankroll management lots of pro players can lose a few million dollars in one year
2021-09-16 20:40
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#71
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Russia Trueteller
Yeah, it can happen, and then they drop down to play lower stakes and win it back easily, or they stop playing versus other pros and go play live versus rich business owners and make it back in a week.
2021-09-16 21:55
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You're acting as if poker ain't just luck and out raising your opponents lol
2021-09-16 22:43
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#99
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Russia Trueteller
I wish I had the time and energy to explain just how wrong you are but I already written a bunch of long messages today and I'm exhausted. But I'll do a small message for you at least to give you an idea at least: First of all, not all hands go to showdown (showdown is when both players turn over their hands to see who is better). The majority of hands ends before showdown, meaning no one have to turn there cards over, meaning luck is not really a factor. It's more your possible range of cards versus opponents range of cards, and the board cards that decide that outcome. In that scenario it comes more down to if one of us hits anything at all on the flop, if no one does, the one with the balls to bet wins the pot more often than not. Luck is a part of the game, absolutely, but there's a depth to poker that makes sure people who understands probability theory and poker fundamentals will always win in the long run against someone who doesn't. If you want to learn, there's the concept of GTO (Game Theory Optimal) where for every possible combination of hands both you and your opponent can have, and for every possible combination of cards that can come on flop, turn and river, there is actually a best way to play every hand, even as specific as the size of the bets. Poker in this sense is already solved. There are bots that if you play them for a long time, will always win. Even if you are more lucky than the bot. It might be hard to understand, but the main takeaway is that you can win 1 hand or 10 hands or even a tournament by simple luck. But in the long run, the person that needs that amount of luck to win, will actually be a losing player (assuming he plays against competent poker players). Sorry got a bit longer than I wanted but hope you got something useful from it. And hope you didn't bait me, then 8/8 credit because I wasted this time writing.
2021-09-16 23:15
When its people who have no idea and have no understanding of how to properly play its a lot of luck. Skill will give you a huge edge
2021-09-17 01:29
#69
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Russia Trueteller
Tell that to Timofey Kuznetsov mens He is probably crying every day for all the time he wasted learning and playing poker Sure, poker is a hard way to make an easy living, but video gamers calling poker a waste of time is somewhat highly ironic If you become top 5% of some video game that still doesn't make you a single penny, because you are still far off from the top 0.1% that can go pro. If you become top 5% in poker you can make a living.
2021-09-16 21:57
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+1, don't know what percentile I'm in poker nor in cs but I've spent way more time with cs than poker. My cs winnings are $50 and poker winnings $400
2021-09-17 13:01
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Grats to the poker winnings (and small CS winnings as well)!
2021-09-17 15:56
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Thanks, don't play a lot of poker anymore, mostly invest in stocks instead. Cs winnings are combined from esportal tournaments where you win $10 each lol and challengermode where you win like nada
2021-09-17 21:01
why tf would you pay
2021-09-16 19:17
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Because or else I would need to go and find information in bits of pieces at a time on youtube videos. I want to get a solid base foundation and go from there
2021-09-16 19:18
If you're gonna use anything use DTO spot practice, or, a GTO solver to review hands you've played yourself. Courses suck.
2021-09-16 19:20
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Yeah courses suck for advanced players because they already know everything on the course
2021-09-16 19:27
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you should try DTO app if you havent yet, I also would recommend
2021-09-17 22:44
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Yeah I looked at it. I used an app similar to it called postflop+ and I think it made me play a lot worse in real game situations at micros at least
2021-09-17 22:45
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yeah in micros, not needed with GTO! but it's good practise to understand bet sizes when you eventually go higher in stakes!
2021-09-17 22:46
broooo if you went on playing poker on small stacks like 0.25 cent and spent your 50$ you would have learned much more than this
2021-09-16 19:21
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Dude I have played plenty of poker. Its not a matter of experience its about learning and getting solid base fundamentals
2021-09-16 19:22
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hmm how you have played plenty of poker but at the same time you dont have solid base fundamental knowledge of the game? Play more and eventually you will get it.And watch pro players play
2021-09-16 19:28
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Compared to average standards of someone you would see playing live poker my fundamentals are probably very good. But I want to be much better. So compared to my standards my fundamentals are not solid
2021-09-16 19:29
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go to local poker tournies? entry fee about 200$?if its any arround there you will meet a lot of poker ppl with the knowledge you seek
2021-09-16 19:33
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I dont like live poker. I tried it once and thought it would be fun but it was pretty boring. I'll play them if I become really good and would be able to crush them
2021-09-16 19:34
#70
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Russia Trueteller
Very false statement You learn absolutely nothing from players who don't know how to play Playing 25 cent is like playing play money, people don't care, and thus, they play like absolute donkeys, meaning you still wont know what works and what doesn't. OP is trying to build bankroll from micro and then go higher up to actually play versus good players and hold his own and even beat them. To do that he needs studying. No poker pro ever has just played some small money tables and then suddenly can hang with the best. Even on mid-stakes, such a player would be slaughtered.
2021-09-16 21:52
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you think there are no bad players in high stakes? KEKW there are tons of ppl who dont care there too who have tons of money of what you think is a high stakes to them is probably just a trolling arround
2021-09-17 12:52
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"you think there are no bad players in high stakes?" What did I write that made you think that I suggested this mens? Of course there are donkeys on highstakes, they are hunted like deer. They sit down and 5 regs sit down and stay until he is cleaned out. As soon as he is busted, the other 5 leaves, and wait for the next rich bad player to do the same mistake. That has literally nothing to do with the things I said. "OP is trying to build bankroll from micro and then go higher up to actually play versus good players and hold his own and even beat them" = those bad players you talk about can not hold their own or beat the regs (in the long run) so you basically proved my point more than disputed it. "KEKW"
2021-09-17 16:01
actual trueteller POGGIES
2021-09-17 12:56
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I wish, he would crush me blindfolded probably (( But I love his nickname so I stole it. It's one of the best pokernicks for sure, and pretty funny forum name as well!
2021-09-17 16:03
i think in poker u play against other players instead of the house, you need an interest in mathematics(probabilities, counting rapidly), a good memory, perfect understanding of every aspect of cards, and good at reading people, if you wanna study the course you bought, get rid of distractions and devote yourself to it, set a time table which includes studying in a major part, for me especially studying in the early morning helps a lot. Anyways, Good Luck !!
2021-09-16 19:21
#15
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Poland xMBTx
You are not motivated to do it
2021-09-16 19:23
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Yeah I dont get it. I want to get better but I dont have motivation per say to do it. Like if my family was locked away and they needed $10,000 to be freed and the only way I could earn the money was from playing poker then that was be "motivation" to get better
2021-09-16 19:32
Just play chess instead. Chess players are hotter, smarter, and cooler than poker players anyways
2021-09-16 19:25
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#21
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Canada firtlast
i mean with a name like MAGNUS carlssen how can the ladies resist you
2021-09-16 19:28
Even for grand masters theres hardly any money there
2021-09-16 19:30
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It’s not about money. It’s about being HOT SMART AND COOL
2021-09-16 20:26
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Well I dont think the chess makes any difference in that department
2021-09-16 20:37
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Chess makes a huge difference in making you HOTTER SMARTER AND COOLER
2021-09-16 22:38
#31
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Russia kI|
as i know succesuful chess players are often been playing and studying it from childhood dont know if its ever possible to compete against people with dozens years of experience
2021-09-16 19:43
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You can certainly compete. You’ll probably lose, but hey what’s the fun in life if you only ever succeed?
2021-09-16 20:26
#48
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Ukraine Najara
chess is boring cuz opponent has full info
2021-09-16 20:46
Stop fucking allowing yourself to sabotage your goals.
2021-09-16 19:25
#25
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Germany Fan_do_Trk
nt ptr
2021-09-16 19:33
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xaxaxa I actually saw ptr in one of the tournaments I was in
2021-09-16 19:33
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#28
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Germany Fan_do_Trk
he win?
2021-09-16 19:33
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Probably not. I didnt know he played poker at the time so I was surprised to find out it was actually him
2021-09-16 19:38
Have you ever been suspected of having ADHD/ADD?
2021-09-16 20:12
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I do have symptoms of it and I'm sure adderall would serve me quite well for studying
2021-09-16 20:16
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Don't have a medical degree, but just reading the post felt like looking in the mirror so couldn't help but ask, as I was diagnosed with ADHD as an adult, that went unnoticed due to leaning highly towards the ADD in terms of symptoms. I'm just saying it's worth looking into if you have any concerns, as treating your attention deficit will make a world of difference. Fun fact: roughly 2/3 of children with ADHD grow up to be adults, and still don't know it.
2021-09-16 20:33
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+1 Got diagnosed as an adult literally 2 days ago. Started same way, just reading casually then a "HOLY SHIT" moment. youtu.be/ouZrZa5pLXk This is KKona friendly link about ADHD if interested in more info!
2021-09-16 22:13
are you taking meds and if so are they helping you? ive had difficulties finding the right dosage
2021-09-17 21:42
If your focus is bad, try reading books and avoiding social media. Reading long books increases your attention span, and social media destroys it. Outdoor activities like hunting and fishing will also increase your focus. Avoid alcohol, caffeine, sugary drinks (except 100% fruit juice), and erratic sleep patterns. But reading books will show the largest improvement the fastest. You'll find that you'll have to reread some sentences and paragraphs at first, but by the time you make it through a few hundred pages that will be minimal.
2021-09-16 20:27
forget everything, come to brazil, we can drink caipirinha together
2021-09-16 20:42
try to find a place that you can asociate with only that, not sitting in the same place as you play games ect for example i go to the library to study, less distractions
2021-09-16 20:42
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That would be nice but not really an option for me
2021-09-16 20:43
#46
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Ukraine Najara
try to increase your study time start from 30 min every day then 40, 50, 60 min
2021-09-16 20:44
Try half an hour studying then have a 10 min break, rinse and repeat.
2021-09-16 20:45
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Ill try this. Strictly setting a 30 minute timer then 10 minute break to do something else
2021-09-16 20:46
WTF
2021-09-16 20:47
11 replies
hm?
2021-09-16 20:50
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2021-09-16 20:51
9 replies
Then what do you suggest?
2021-09-16 20:52
8 replies
Idk but that's a waste of money, 50 bucks may look like shit but it's a ton of money like hello?
2021-09-16 20:54
7 replies
Its not a lot of money in the context of playing poker and spending money on buy ins every day. But $50 for a game like csgo where you're not spending any money is a lot. For example a few days ago I won $40 and yesterday I lost $30
2021-09-16 21:01
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Well you can do good inversions with not that much money. My first case ever was a Case-Hardened Ursus WW worth 120-150 USD (yeah lucky AF but it's insane profit).
2021-09-16 21:02
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Yeah I play in tournaments with a low buy in. From $1-$5 if thats what you mean
2021-09-16 21:03
4 replies
Nice but not really worth it imo
2021-09-16 21:17
3 replies
What is not worth it? Buying into tournaments or paying for training?
2021-09-16 22:49
2 replies
paying for training
2021-09-16 22:50
1 reply
If I went on to make $300 with the knowledge I gain then would it be worth it? Poker isn’t like csgo where you can become really good just by playing and I don’t think you can find all the information needed for free
2021-09-16 22:56
While there are certainly fundamentals to learn with poker, I find the most important to be calculating percentage chances of your hand as well as learning to set betting limits on said given hands to be the most important. I'm not sure about whether the website you are using are teaching you those things, but that would be what I would focus on if I were you. And even then it might not guarantee success due to the RNG nature of poker. You can have the most solid fundamentals and still lose to someone who just takes a risk and gets a lucky draw. Statistically it should work though but when it doesn't, you'll be bashing yourself over the head and feel you misplayed your hand even if your bets/raises/calls etc were optimal.
2021-09-16 20:54
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Yes these are things that come with being fundamentally good and I am learning more about them in the course
2021-09-16 20:56
#73
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Russia Trueteller
You don't really need to calculate much. Just making general estimations works well. 1 out is about 2,5% chance to hit. Flush draw = 9 outs = 22,5% (actually is more like 19,6% from turn to river) but it's very good approxiation, and you don't have to think for 5 hours to get the exact percentage). And betting limits on a given hand, no, that's not a thing. Sometimes it's correct to go all-in with nothing based on factors in the hand. Setting a limit gives you nothing but a disadvantage. Your poker chips are your ammunition at the table. Setting a limit is like going to war and only use a certain amount of shots in your rifle, that would be insane. Never heard a single poker player, neither pro or non-pro talk about this kind of limit, where did you get this idea from? This is where experience and studying comes into play, to recognize those spots where it is correct to put everything on the line. It feels like a huge risk, but it's actually very profitable in the long run. And the last thing you talk about, is referred to as "tilt", you play well, and someone gets lucky. The only lesson in that is that don't be result oriented. You have to be a psychopath at the poker table. If you lose with the best hand, you say to yourself "shit happens, well at least I played it correctly" and then 1 second later you have 2 new cards and keep playing. Never get emotional. Emotional players are very easy to beat.
2021-09-16 22:10
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Betting limits is evaluating your hand and estimate how much of a possible raise or call you can do with said hand, to avoid getting caught with too many chips on the table. Every player does this and calculates how much of a bet size is appropriate according to his/her hand. Getting emotional and betting too much is what catches a lot of players sacrificing too much on a hand that's unlikely to win. You do the same form of calculation when analyzing the betsize of your opponent. If someone bets half their chips on the turn, chances are they have a decent hand they believe in and you are left wondering whether you think it's worth a call or not.
2021-09-16 22:28
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#95
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Russia Trueteller
"Betting limits is evaluating your hand and estimate how much of a possible raise or call you can do with said hand" This concept sounds like you have mixed up a few other concepts to create your own concept. What you are describing is not really a thing I ever heard before and played poker before poker boom in 2003. Bet size is important, evaluation is important, but thinking about limits is not. (It's called no limit for a reason). In a spot when you want to call with a draw for example, you are evaluating pot odds and implied odds, not limit. And when you raise or bet you are thinking size (how much) not limit. "If someone bets half their chips on the turn" then I mark them a fish because their river bet would be like 25% pot bet or even less. I'm not thinking about calling in that spot, it's either shove or fold, because if I call turn I basically have to call my whole range on river. Betting size is very important and everyone should think about while betting limit is for degenerate gamblers and not for poker players.
2021-09-16 22:53
#72
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Denmark fuze^
If nothing else in this thread works for you, I would look into the possibility of having a neurological disorder such as ADHD. I have aspergers autism and struggle with studying. Knowing your limits will vastly improve your life, should it turn out that you have any that are more specific than others.
2021-09-16 22:01
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#75
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Russia Trueteller
ADHD makes it hard to study things you are not interested in for sure. But the ADHD people I know have absolutely no problem with studying for 10+ hours on a subject they are interested in. So I think it's not that.
2021-09-16 22:11
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#101
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Denmark fuze^
I think he should definitely look into it, but you may be right. I guess what the people you know are experiencing is hyperfocus?
2021-09-17 09:19
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Not sure about the specific term and it might be worth looking into as well. It's always good to know yourself and your limits, it will make life easier being self-aware like that! And I only know 2 people with ADHD so I can't speak for how others feel, I saw now that it sounded like I knew more than I actually do in my first comment.
2021-09-17 16:06
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#140
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Denmark fuze^
:D Youre absolutely right.
2021-09-18 07:02
I guess you found out that you dont enjoy poker that much? and dont want to do it?
2021-09-16 22:27
keep grinding sir! 👊👊 you will get there! see you at the casinos 😎
2021-09-16 22:52
#98
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Europe DoktorEgg
I think you're probably putting yourself under too much pressure. Nothing kills motivation like the feeling that you *should* do something. What you're describing sounds exactly like how I behave when I'm feeling too much stress and pressure to get something done. I don't have a magic bullet solution unfortunately since I still struggle with this but just relax, try to eliminate distractions and focus on the fact that this is something that you want to do. And if you really aren't feeling it then don't do any of those things that you listed that you normally do that distract yourself, do something like housework or going for a walk. Something to get you moving and out of that space. You could also try going and studying somewhere else like a cafe or library to move yourself out of this space in which you too easily slip into these other procrastination behaviours. Good luck!
2021-09-16 23:05
I have the same problem with every kind of studying, no matter how interesting the topic is. I'm hardworking but not so at studying, especially without deadlines Perhaps try studying in a different environment as well (as mentioned above), library/different room/peaceful cafe etc, if it suits you. If not, try to make your studying environment as suitable as possible (more comfortable with less distractions) I find it easier to start studying if I brew a coffee and make light breakfast/snack and start browsing the days work while I sip the coffee and put on appropriate background music. If I'm feelind a bit tired to start, some very quick exercise or a shower first might get me energized. Regarding the music while studying or playing poker, I find it often easier to concentrate while listening to non-vocal music (or foreign music that I don't understand). Especially while studying/reading! Slower tempo music might work better when you find it harder to concentrate, but if you feel getting tired, switch to some heavier and/or faster tempo stuff. And well, when playing many tables (like 5-9 simultaneous MTTs), I often find it easier to concentrate without the music BTW while playing the tournaments when I know that I'm a bit stressed or find it difficult to concentrate (not a good time to play poker, of course), I find it even easier to concentrate while playing more than a few tables (tournaments). Applies mostly when playing Tight/aggressive though, and you don't have tournaments in the late stages. Even close to final tables or late stages the other tables might ease taking your mind off the bad beats, or getting impatient while waiting for the cards. Hope you find some way to concentrate and motivate yourself!
2021-09-17 10:09
Poker isnt for everybody u have to love the game personally i study about 3hrs a day theory and trying understand why solver prefers certain action with certain holding i find studying theory more interesting than playing im a big GTO guy and i hate explo noobs))
2021-09-17 12:55
Same when I took a course on c++ 2 years ago, just finished like 10% after a month cause it got boring af. I regret not doing the full course but at the same time I can finish at any moment but to lazy to do it.
2021-09-17 13:04
why not just study an actual thing like trade, coding, school degree where you will almost certainly earn more with none of the risk
2021-09-17 21:10
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I cant do school. Boring. I'm even proving to myself that I cant even do "school" on a subject I have an interest in so if its a subject I dont have an interest in its impossible
2021-09-17 21:13
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poker is going to be infinitely more effort studying and way more boring. good luck either way
2021-09-17 21:16
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Yeah but its at least on a subject I would care to learn about. Its not even possible for me to learn about a subject I dont care about. My brain just thinks about other things while "learning" about it
2021-09-17 21:18
Good luck
2021-09-17 21:20
study programming then make a program for poker maybe. it will help u understand poker more deeply and have some programming experience
2021-09-17 21:21
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like a program which tells u the best move to make idk how poker works
2021-09-17 21:21
eh if I was going to make a program for poker I would just use one that is already made instead. A program that tells you the best move to make it called a solver and they are out there
2021-09-17 21:48
7 replies
I dont have a gambling problem. I'm a poker player not a gambler
2021-09-17 22:13
6 replies
Stop lying to yourself man
2021-09-18 21:33
5 replies
Then tell me about my poker habits if you think you know and I have a problem?
2021-09-18 23:03
4 replies
You play poker on a daily basis and lose money. Thank you signatures later.
2021-09-18 23:23
3 replies
I'm a winning player and I play micro stakes. Both of which eliminates the possibility that I have a problem especially when combined
2021-09-18 23:24
2 replies
Classic American 😎
2021-09-18 23:25
1 reply
What's supposed to be classic american about that?
2021-09-18 23:27
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