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Currently top 5 players
SkippeR | 
Serbia ezforSKIPPER 
1.s1mple 2.sh1ro 3.ax1le 4.zywoo 5.hobbit This is just my opinion so far in 2021, everysingle of them can change, even s1mple can change if zywoo goes crazy for the rest of the year.
2021-09-18 11:06
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Bro no way ZywOo is anywhere below #2 lmao Unless you change title to top 5 accomplished players in 2021
2021-09-18 11:08
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How can he be #2 when he didnt win anything this year? no mvp no title and also sh1ro has 1.26kd ofc zywoo has higher 1.34 but its not that big gap
2021-09-18 11:15
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#8
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Denmark pebblez
LMAO this guy basing it off of K/D LMAO, that's not a very smart thing to do, I guess his flag checks out.
2021-09-18 11:17
13 replies
delusional g2 fan from denmark says my flag checks out LMAO, i guess you were astralis fan until they became bullshit and now you switched to g2, so who’s next bcz g2 is complete bullshit
2021-09-18 11:23
10 replies
Zywoo 1.35 impact rating Sh1ro 1.14 impact rating. Nuff said.
2021-09-18 11:43
9 replies
sh1ro has 1.26 wtf you talking about
2021-09-18 11:45
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#84
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Sweden dinolinoxd
2021-09-18 12:14
5 replies
How many more trophies did device have in 2018 but still came second behind s1mple ?He even won a major that year. Zywoo is a much better individual than sh1ro and has performed better than sh1ro across the year.
2021-09-18 12:17
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#93
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Sweden dinolinoxd
0.05 rating "much better individually" biased much?
2021-09-18 12:35
3 replies
1.14 impact rating sh1ro 1.35 impact rating zywoo Top 5 rating Sh1ro 1.13 Zywoo 1.27 Top 10 rating Sh1ro 1.19 Zywoo 1.29 I don't know who's the biased one but it's deff not me.
2021-09-18 12:45
2 replies
bunch of idiots bickering don’t take the b8
2021-09-18 13:07
Maybe focus on MOBA since you don't even have clue about the things you're talking about S1mple won 5 events in 2018 and was pretty much top4 at the most of the events that year while Zywoo only 2 top4 placings this year
2021-09-18 13:52
Sh1ro has 1.08 impact rating vs top10 zywoo has 1.30
2021-09-18 12:41
#156
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United States urm@m
basing it off KD is bad but Zywoo isnt near #2 this year lol. Nothing to back that up (titles, mvps) whereas the top 3 do.
2021-09-19 15:11
#159
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Czech Republic imotfhere
+1
2021-09-19 15:14
If ZywOo isn't even winning events but still has a significantly greater KD than sh1ro... That says a lot
2021-09-18 11:17
27 replies
signifcantly 1.08 diff? bro no way zywoo #2 so far in this year unless its rigged and him and s1mple must be top2, just he doesent deserve it
2021-09-18 11:25
20 replies
Idk if you know much about CS, but that's pretty significant Take into account the fact that he hasn't won any tourneys yet, and that's a BIG gap
2021-09-18 11:27
19 replies
for me you have more space to have bigger kd when your team is playing bullshit than when you have 2 machines beside you like sh1ro does
2021-09-18 11:41
2 replies
No because you're losing more rounds, and your team can't buy you guns and set you up as efficiently EDIT: And you die more so you get far more kills
2021-09-18 11:45
1 reply
He is completely retarded
2021-09-18 16:50
#56
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Germany xSchons
the fact that he didnt win anything this year just means that he played less matches and against worse enemies
2021-09-18 11:46
15 replies
okay i respect all of your opinions, i will root for my boy sh1ro and we’ll see at the end of the year
2021-09-18 11:47
No? Vita have made deep runs in many tourneys, they've faced top-tier teams etc
2021-09-18 11:53
13 replies
I wouldn't call 4 playoffs from 9 events "many"
2021-09-18 11:59
12 replies
Since adding Kyojin, they got 2 rough events, which are to be expected. Then, they got semis in IEM Summer, won all their play-in matches for Cologne, and only got eliminated because a new FaZe showed up. They then made finals of EPL...
2021-09-18 12:04
11 replies
How tf does any of this refute what I said? You said they made deep runs at many tournaments. I just pointed out that's not true.
2021-09-18 12:09
9 replies
Summer? Cologne? EPL? Even Flashpoint?
2021-09-18 12:57
8 replies
? They didn't make playoffs in Cologne. Blast Global Final IEM Summer Flashpoint 3 EPL 14 That's 4/9 events. 20 playoff maps.
2021-09-18 15:14
7 replies
Cologne was a deep run. They came from the play-ins to nearly qualifying for playoffs. That's a lot of matches. Deep run = staying alive long enough in a tourney to play a large amount of maps
2021-09-18 15:30
6 replies
holy fuck dude! Why is it so hard for you to understand that for HLTV, deep run = making playoffs? Why tf are you trying to assign your own personal definition for it? The "Big Event playoffs rating" stat used in the list considers only the maps in the playoff stage in tournaments.
2021-09-18 19:01
5 replies
Maybe because it's called 'Big Event Playoffs Rating' and not 'deep run rating' you imbecile
2021-09-18 19:06
4 replies
"Deep run" has always meant making playoffs you retard, not going out in group stage. Which Vitality did at Cologne.
2021-09-18 19:08
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Are you fucking kidding me? That would imply going out in Ro128 in some ESEA-hosted DHOpen cup is a deep run, because it's the playoffs. No. A deep run depends on the path you've gone through. It's like the SSS tourneys, if say Fnatic get an instant seed to the quarter-finals then lose their only match, that's not a deep run. If some t3 team plays stage 1, stage 2, and then goes all the way to QFs in a SSS tourney, that's a deep run. Really not that hard to understand but ig you haven't had an education worthy of that name
2021-09-18 19:28
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This entire thread is about how a bunch of players might place in the top 20 list. One of the ways they rate players is by seeing how they performed in deep tournament runs. For them, that means quarters, semis etc. NOT matches from group stage, no matter how narrowly they missed playoffs. You can give irrelevant ass examples all you want but this is their criteria for "deep run".
2021-09-18 19:52
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You sir are correct apart from the name calling. Deep run means playoff matches. Doesnt matter how long the journey is for a team. group stages do not matter in top 20
2021-09-19 16:21
gambit got eliminated by that same faze, if they didnt who knows what would happen
2021-09-18 12:11
Sh1ro - 1,44 kd hltv.org/stats/players/16920/sh1ro?start.. Zywoo - 1,35 kd hltv.org/stats/players/11893/zywoo?start.. (2021) No idea where this guy saw that Zywoo have higher k/d
2021-09-18 11:52
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lmao Whatever then
2021-09-18 11:54
This guy is retarded, no one cares avout KDA thats why rating / impact rating exist : sh1ro 1.22/1.10 Zywoo : 1.28/1.35
2021-09-18 12:43
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True Difference in ADR/impact/kpr is huge Also Zywoo 0,12 first kills per round on T side while baiter sh1ro only 0,07 hltv.org/stats/players/openingkills?star..
2021-09-18 12:48
That says he's playing less maps, to be fair
2021-09-18 13:05
+1
2021-09-18 16:49
He is clearly far above the rest individually... In my opinion, this overrides his lack of accomplishments this year (which can be attributed to his teams performance and not so much his own)
2021-09-18 11:18
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i dont agree with you, myb overall yes but this year that cant be true, idk we’ll see
2021-09-18 11:26
Zywoo cant win titles alone, no player can you retard.
2021-09-18 11:29
1. s1mple 2. zywoo 3. sh1ro 4. hobbit 5. ax1le fixed
2021-09-18 11:31
6 replies
tbh i think Niko should be in the top 5 instead of one of the gambit players. Most likely hobbit imo
2021-09-18 11:40
5 replies
He needs and MVP if he wants to place above hobbit in top 5. Top 6 for sure but top 5, he needs an event win or an MVP, both would be ideal.
2021-09-18 11:44
Based on what?
2021-09-18 11:48
niko has had a lower rating (1.16), 0 mvps and 0 tournament wins in 2021 hobbit has had a higher rating (1.19), 2 mvps and 4 tournament wins in 2021 hobbit is definitely better than niko
2021-09-18 12:49
2 replies
I think HLTV take into account how much higher your rating is in comparison to the rest of your team, i could be wrong
2021-09-18 13:46
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i dont think so cuz that doesnt mean anything except if u carry ur team harder or not and how shit ur team is. if it does take that into consideration i shall be surprised af
2021-09-18 13:49
you can be 2 without almost winning nothing look at s1mple 2019
2021-09-18 12:50
the guy hasnt done shit this year
2021-09-18 15:34
zywoo 2nd
2021-09-18 11:09
1 reply
How can he be #2 when he didnt win anything this year? no mvp no title and also sh1ro has 1.26kd ofc zywoo has higher 1.34 but its not that big gap
2021-09-18 11:15
#3
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Sweden sn1pie
Zywoo 2nd no way he is lower
2021-09-18 11:11
1 reply
How can he be #2 when he didnt win anything this year? no mvp no title and also sh1ro has 1.26kd ofc zywoo has higher 1.34 but its not that big gap
2021-09-18 11:15
#7
Hobbit | 
Kazakhstan znoob
1. hobbit 2. s1mple 3. zywoo 4. sh1ro 5. ax1le
2021-09-18 11:16
3 replies
+1 LMAO
2021-09-18 11:21
new gambit lineup?
2021-09-18 15:01
#157
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United States urm@m
flag/flair
2021-09-19 15:12
s1mple zywoo hobbit sh1ro Niko and no way s1mple doesnt finish top 1 regardless of what Zywoo does
2021-09-18 11:21
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bro niko doesent deserve top 5 this year myb not even top 10
2021-09-18 11:21
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Niko doesnt deserve top 5 but you think Zywoo could replace s1mple... delusional
2021-09-18 11:26
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ofc any of these 5 can if they go crazy for the rest of the year winning major and every other big tournament with mvps and big impact
2021-09-18 11:27
1 reply
Nikos been slapping this year wym? not to mention axiles been kinda dog the last couple months, maybe he pulls it back but if not he'll fall to lower part of the top 10
2021-09-19 15:14
#30
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Biske
2021-09-18 11:30
#118
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Hungary zy_k
he will be top 10 thats for sure
2021-09-18 13:54
#13
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Biske
niko 5th rest good
2021-09-18 11:21
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2021-09-18 11:22
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#18
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Biske
you crazy bro? he is literally carrying g2 first lan he was top performer besides s1mple obviously best in the world he had most impact even though they bombed out of groups rest tournies was always top6 top5 even top3 idk what do you mean?
2021-09-18 11:23
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this online thing just isnt his thing and it doesent suit him well, ofc he’s better on lan and i love niko he’s balkanian but he just doesent deserve it this year, even if he does so far he wont get it in the future bcz g2 wont be top 5 + he’s igl now and we know how niko plays when he’s igling
2021-09-18 11:36
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#66
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Biske
they were trolling about igling he isnt and if g2 wins one tourney they will be top3 if they win major (somehow) ez top3 for NiKoVAC
2021-09-18 11:54
3 replies
g2 wont even win blast/fall, they wont probably even place top 4
2021-09-18 11:55
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#68
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Biske
as you say brudda will comeback to this thread :)
2021-09-18 11:56
myb top 4 on fall because its lan but above that NO
2021-09-18 11:58
well at this point I think even if zywoo goes crazy mode, he can't steal 1st spot unless s1mple goes consistently 0.95 rating or sth for the rest of the year xD
2021-09-18 11:23
4 replies
i honestly think that its impossible to replace s1 this year
2021-09-18 11:28
He would have to be absolutely perfect to steal the number one spot. He loses even one MVP, that's it.
2021-09-18 11:31
2 replies
exactly that's why I'm saying that the only way is if s1mple somehow stops performing
2021-09-18 11:33
#160
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United States urm@m
even if s1mple sucked for the rest of the year zywoo has NO chance. performing for 9 months of year != performing for 4/5
2021-09-19 15:15
3 top players from gambit in the year of navi era :monkaS:
2021-09-18 11:24
17 replies
year of navi? they’re less on #1 than gambit was?
2021-09-18 11:28
16 replies
Are they?
2021-09-18 11:29
15 replies
yes they are, and its gambit’s year so far not navi’s but we’ll see in the future
2021-09-18 11:32
14 replies
weird considering navi have won more trophies and more mvps i think, also winning the only lan.
2021-09-18 11:35
13 replies
not true, they have the same amount of trophies in 2021 , and i dont understand what mvps you mean?
2021-09-18 11:39
12 replies
gambit got 5 t1 trophies? kato summer blast and the clown fiesta of the 1st cir rmr is what i rememeber.
2021-09-18 12:02
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2021-09-18 12:03
If you consider only tier-1 events, then Na'Vi has won 5 and Gambit 4
2021-09-18 12:03
9 replies
what five? cologne, starladder, dh, epl s14, is all they got
2021-09-18 12:06
8 replies
Blast Global Final? The first big tournament of the year?
2021-09-18 12:11
7 replies
bro its called bgf 2020 for a reason, yes it was played in 2021 but its 2020’s tour and also gambit didnt even exist back then lmao they were youngsters
2021-09-18 12:13
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Doesn't matter. It was played this year. It will be considered for this years ranking. > and also gambit didnt even exist back then lmao they were youngsters so?
2021-09-18 12:16
5 replies
it is considered already how can team of youngsters play thst tour for which you needed to qualify in early 2020 LMAO
2021-09-18 12:17
4 replies
So what? Na'Vi's win is void because they weren't there? foh with that logic. Also teams didn't "qualify in early 2020" for this event. You're clueless.
2021-09-18 12:22
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no its not avoidable just this win cant count in comparasion between gambit and navi 2021. from early 2020 to almost end of 2020
2021-09-18 12:24
2 replies
Even if you ignore that event, Na'Vi's 4 wins are more impressive than Gambit's since theirs were a little more competitive + they won Cologne.
2021-09-18 12:31
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But Gambit dominated much more than NaVi Gambit at their peak had like 95% winrate
2021-09-18 13:59
1. s1mple A literal cliff(yeah that's how far the gap is right now) 2. ZywOo 3. Hobbit 4. sh1ro 5. Ax1Le/NiKo
2021-09-18 11:29
2 replies
okay i wont argue about zywoo being #2 for ya but check my #44 about niko being #5
2021-09-18 11:36
1 reply
I get your point, but last year he was in a similar position, and yet he still got #4. The same thing goes for s1mple in 2019.
2021-09-19 15:08
you give too much credit to gambit players they may have won a few tournemants but if they continue the performance like this....
2021-09-18 11:30
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yea you’re right but if they get on track and play like when they were #1, i think they just deserve at least 2 spots in top5
2021-09-18 11:33
kennyS flusha get right shox olofmeister
2021-09-18 11:31
2 replies
time traveller spotted
2021-09-18 11:31
bro its about 2021 not 2015
2021-09-18 11:34
1. s1mple 2. SHOCK
2021-09-18 11:32
ZywOo 2nd
2021-09-18 11:32
hobbit should be no.3
2021-09-18 11:35
1.xantares 2.issaa 3.woxic 4.imorr 5.calyx but probably until the end of the year there will be some changes between this 5
2021-09-18 11:37
7 replies
Yes in their bootcamp room and there can be some changes due to their coach being probably better than all of them LMAO
2021-09-18 11:44
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i said between this 5. but if we gonna include the coach it probably would be 6. s1mple 7. bishop/zywoo 8.zywoo/bishop
2021-09-18 11:50
4 replies
disband incoming until the end of the 2021
2021-09-18 11:52
3 replies
why would they disband right after winning the major?
2021-09-18 12:06
2 replies
sadly they didnt qualify even for rmr not major…
2021-09-18 12:07
1 reply
just trying to cheer you up m8
2021-09-18 12:13
#161
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United States urm@m
xantares not even top 1 in his team
2021-09-19 15:15
ZywOo 2nd, far away from sh1ro or hobbit. Think different=brain dead.
2021-09-18 11:37
1. s1mple 2. ZywOo 3. sh1ro 4. Hobbit 5. ropz don't @ me
2021-09-18 11:52
1) S1mple 2) Zyw0o 3) Sh1ro 4) Electronic 5) Hobbit
2021-09-18 12:11
1.s1mple 2.zywoo 3.hobbit 4.sh1ro 5.ropz
2021-09-18 12:11
#91
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Romania alexinio05
wtf is that dude. first thing: hobbit > ax1le second thing: hobbit, ax1le > sh0ro
2021-09-18 12:28
1 reply
Ax1Le far more consistent tho
2021-09-18 14:00
1.S1mple 2.ZywOo 3.Hobbit 4.NiKo 5.a lot of people can get 5th
2021-09-18 12:37
3 replies
NiKo has had a poorer rating, fewer playoff runs, and no MVPs. Definitely will be top8 or so, but I'm doubtful he can pass Ax1le and Sh1ro
2021-09-18 13:05
2 replies
His team is trash
2021-09-18 13:50
1 reply
Unfortunately true
2021-09-18 14:21
Ax1le/sh1ro/Hobbit have just 1 or 2 MVPs more than ZywOo, but significantly lower stats. I understand that they have almost double of the maps ZywOo has, and many more playoffs maps than ZywOo, but still, ZywOo would be favoured for 2nd place.
2021-09-18 12:40
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I don't think so, I would understand if it was slightly more maps but Gambit has played nearly SIXTY more maps than Zywoo, and more than double the amount of playoff maps. I agree that Hobbit and Ax1le have no chance of passing Zywoo, but Sh1ro is only behind by 0.5 rating points WITH an MVP, five more titles, and double the playoff maps... Remember that in 2017 S1mple held the second highest rating across all players, but only got EIGHTH in the HLTV rankings
2021-09-18 14:27
Hobbit has had better stats across the year than Ax1le and equal number MVPs Zywoo > 1.28 Rating, however low maps and few playoff runs Sh1ro > 1.22 Rating, +1 MVP Hobbit and Ax1le both share 2 MVPs and nearly identical stat lines across the year (hltv.org/stats/players/compare/8528/hobb..), Ax1le being slightly higher across top30, Hobbit being slightly higher across top20. With that being said, Zywoo is 0.10-0.11 rating and impact points higher than them. Hobbit and Ax1le will take 5 and 4, with Ax1le being 4th because he's been slightly better in the final half of the year. Zywoo will be 3rd, UNLESS Vitality can make deep playoff runs the rest of the year like in EPL. Despite having better stats and much higher impact than Sh1ro, they just haven't reached playoffs enough If Vitality don't make many more playoff runs, I definitely see Sh1ro #2. Crazy to see how close the race is right now. Who knows, if Mousesports win something by the end of the year Ropz could definitely kick Hobbit or Ax1le out of the top5
2021-09-18 13:03
11 replies
ou nice you agree with me, thanks mate, twistzz in top 10
2021-09-18 13:15
3 replies
Ehhh I don't know about Twistzz top10 mens, obviously I love him as a player (flair) but Faze has had quite possibly the most disappointing year of the entire org's history (other than Cologne dream run to semis) Maybe with a good showing in the Major, as it is LAN afterall!
2021-09-18 15:07
2 replies
faze will perform on fall and major cuz they’re diff beast on lan
2021-09-18 15:13
1 reply
Surely hope so. If S1mple doesn't get his Major, the next player I'd like to see lift the trophy is Karrigan
2021-09-18 16:40
Ropz? You mean the eternal shift* hold player? If player like him would make top5 it means that CS:GO is in very disgusting condition
2021-09-18 14:03
6 replies
What? He's definitely the best lurker in game right now if that's what you mean, and one of the best riflers
2021-09-18 14:21
5 replies
Yeah i agree his movement and aim is absolutely top notch but his playstyle is really disgusting, Always when i play similar or got guys who play similar teammates starts using not the nicest words
2021-09-18 14:23
4 replies
Why? It's effective?
2021-09-18 14:28
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No, no my own teammates starts to screaming at me cuz they think i'm baiter But lurker role is completely different in pro matches but still if someone says that sh1ro stats are inflated it's the same story about ropz And tbh Ax1Le or Hobbit have pretty much same stats so unless he goes nuclear or CIS guys stop to turn on cheats i don't see ChoKo, Ecovice or Ropzinho anywhere near top5
2021-09-18 14:59
2 replies
Device definitely not, with an MVP the only player I could see that's been consistent enough to crack top5 is Ropz
2021-09-18 15:04
1 reply
sorry but shiro will lift it 😄
2021-09-18 16:43
I just saw ZywOo destroying Lucky's career with that pick in the end of last map yesterday I've never seen anything like this on pro scene What I want to say is that ZywOo isnt only statistically #2 this year, but whenever you watch him play he is making insane plays
2021-09-18 13:11
4 replies
how the hell that shit production didnt replay that from zywoo perspective that looked so fucking insane
2021-09-18 13:16
3 replies
they replay that but after the end of the match i stayed and i saw that
2021-09-18 13:24
2 replies
they didnt? i stayed for like 7,8 mins after the game for that replay
2021-09-18 14:48
i just rewatched it again and they didnt replay from ZYWOO perspective
2021-09-18 14:54
1. s1mple 2. ZywOo 3. sh1ro 4. Hobbit 5. Ax1Le /closed
2021-09-18 13:21
#115
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Romania xypperz
1.xyp9x 2.dupreeh 3.magisk 4.gla1ve 5.dev1ce
2021-09-18 13:52
#116
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Poland iOFF
1.s1 . . . . . . 2.me 3.zywoo 4.Niko 5.Hobbit
2021-09-18 13:52
not having ZywOo #2 is just dumb. and I'm a s1mple fan
2021-09-18 16:44
i dont understand why people put ax1le over hobbit hobbit 1.18 vs top 10 ax1le 1.14 vs top 10
2021-09-18 16:47
-HOBBIT +REFREZH
2021-09-18 19:08
2 replies
Africa stays together
2021-09-18 19:19
1 reply
wakanda forever
2021-09-18 20:20
s1mple zywoo refrezh b1t niko/electronic/sh1ro
2021-09-18 19:26
1: S1mple 2: Zywoo 3: Hobbit 4: El1ge 5: Ax1le
2021-09-18 19:28
1. NiKo 2. s1mple 3. ZywOo 4. sh1ro 5. Hobbit
2021-09-18 19:35
1. S1mple 2. Zywoo 3. NiKo Everyone else irrelevant
2021-09-19 15:09
zywoo is easily second. not even debatable...
2021-09-19 15:18
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