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The NA CS hate is dumb
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Hungary Mitomen20 
The game has a lot to gain from NA CS staying alive. Exposure, more players, sponsors, prizes, events. I really don't get why some EU and CIS neanderthals actually WANT NA CS to disappear completely. If you're russian and NaVi beats Liquid, sure celebrate, but cheering on as a heavy portion of the scene just dies out...makes no sense mens((.
2021-09-18 13:39
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#1
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Denmark pebblez
NA CS is already dead, It's just Liquid.
2021-09-18 13:40
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nope. ES was playing in final vs BIG and take 2 maps. Pain gaming is good too. You will see this
2021-09-18 13:54
5 replies
ES and Pain would lose to some random tier 4 team in EU
2021-09-18 14:01
#15
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Netherlands RC1XBET
And ES is like... a tier 3 team. So NA cs is dead.
2021-09-18 14:02
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#48
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Europe danzydan
so is eternal fire xd
2021-09-18 17:01
eternal bots are tier 5 NA CS
2021-09-18 18:56
Extra salt had a good run of form maybe a month ago but that lasted a really short time. NA are literally down to Liquid maybe Furia in a couple weeks
2021-09-18 15:22
#12
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Bangladesh Santho
Its far from dead. Liquid are in very good form. They also have some really solid t2 teams with t1 potential like roxicsss said (ES for example). Evil Geniuses have potential too. Both oBo and MICHU are great players, if they manage to get at least decent IGL + Brehze can get his motivation back after the break they can be top 10 again.
2021-09-18 13:59
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"EG have potential" got 4 maps in the last 14 games and 2 are against asian team
2021-09-18 14:03
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Bangladesh Santho
Hah that's why people like you will never achieve anything in life. Potential is not about current results with broken roster. Potential is about what they CAN achieve in THE FUTURE. They are fuckin playing with coach AND a stand in now. Both MICHU and oBo can get 30 frags vs top tier EU teams. Potential fix: Brehze come back after his break with his previous motivation so they get another strong rifler. Either cerq go back to his previous form or kick him and buyout Woro2k/maybe even give junior a try (Cheap and in NA) Fix IGL problem - idk if there is any decent igl in NA but i'm sure they can get someone better than stanislaw.
2021-09-18 14:15
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keep dreaming atm they do not have any potential even with all the changes and theories you mentioned above
2021-09-18 14:34
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I mean, I dont like his changes but there is a chance. These changes would be better. -stan +tarik igl -cerq +smooya if brehze can get back in form team would be really good because tarik played all the shit roles for the team before. if brehze doesn't get in form you can get floppy which preformed decently in Europe with C9.
2021-09-18 16:14
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Doubt tarik want to live a competitive CSGO life anymore. Maybe next year. I can see him enjoying his 24hour stream right now with a lot of subscribers everyday.
2021-09-18 17:03
the players have the potential for sure, they were a sick team not that long ago, think the issue is the level of practice in NA and hype for tournaments, having to fly to EU for online tournaments would piss u off after a while.
2021-09-18 17:00
isnt Pain SA?
2021-09-18 15:58
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#46
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
Yes, they are from Brazil hltv.org/team/4773/pain
2021-09-18 16:59
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Ireland Sodaking
yea if NA Cs is active the overall game will be doing better but idk some people just hate the NA for Cs if this game is dying in an entire Continent that's not looking good
2021-09-18 13:43
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Spain Tool40
Because they don't deserve the spots they receive at international events nowadays, they receive them for being from NA but they deserve much less, at the asian level. It's a shame that many EU teams can deal with EG's garbage but can't get in because they compete in a much more competitive region.
2021-09-18 14:25
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#20
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Spain Tool40
They also have tournaments where EU teams are not allowed to enter, like ESEA cash cup, but then they want equal treatment in EU tournaments, fuck them.
2021-09-18 14:20
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#23
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Spain Tool40
I don't hate them btw, it's just unfair.
2021-09-18 14:29
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#35
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Ireland Sodaking
i mean i get it but at this stage there needs to be something to try and revive the game in NA because there is literally only 1 Relevant team in NA anymore and that's Liquid for a region that covers over 350 Million people yet only has one Relevant team insane what's even sadder is Liquid has been top of the NA rankings since the 21st December 2020 nearly 9 months Unchallenged in NA being honest what a shit show
2021-09-18 16:03
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#44
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Spain Tool40
If the players do not win the orgs leave, they should have focused on winning when they were TSM, Misfits, C9, 100T, and a long etcetera, now crying because there are no orgs that have gotten tired of throwing money on shitty players. They have what they deserve and US players who compete at a much higher level than NA players do not deserve not to be able to compete for the region. Look at the ESEA Cash Cup, why do they give 15k prize pool in NA and only 4k in the US? Should we do the same if for example TL wins the ESL and only give him 200k instead of the 700k prize pool? This is the same.
2021-09-18 16:54
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#58
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Spain Tool40
By US I mean EU btw
2021-09-18 17:28
it's trolling lmao. they don't actually want the scene to disappear. it has always been like this
2021-09-18 13:43
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#4
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Austria Ostmark
+1
2021-09-18 13:44
#7
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Hungary Mitomen20
I get the meme part, and enjoyed it for years , but I've seen many actual serious comments being happy about the recent drop off of NA in the past weeks.
2021-09-18 13:47
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no one is
2021-09-18 14:28
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#24
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United States SYM3iOTiC
kappa
2021-09-18 14:33
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noKappa
2021-09-18 15:22
U point is dumb For cs to stay on top valve needs to develop weaker regions sure cis and eu deverve more spots but they need to give up some spot for other regions even id they are bad, because is the only way to them to get better Just look al valo KR and asian team where FORMER CS PLAYERS specially koreans are highly skilled but valve and vs never help their region Now More than ever we need more regions and help na to back on track Again look at valo Last masters lan JP AND latam teams sucks but they keep giving them spots and they where better this masters CS NEED more regions specially na cuz sponsors amd viewers :)
2021-09-18 17:13
I don't want NA CS gone:( As an EU girl there's a lot of pride involved, and I want EU to be better than NA, but NA is so useful for eSports
2021-09-18 13:44
the problem I think is: we don't want NA dead, but we also don't want high tier events filled with bad teams just because NA has spots for it this also holds true for SA, but SA quality is a little better right now
2021-09-18 13:47
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I'd say the high tier is the same pretty much, as in you have one pretty good top 15 team that can do damage and one 30~~ with a few good players but just doesn't really hold up overall. Where SA prevails whereas NA lacks is in grassroot tier 4-5 teams where you can find new prospects
2021-09-18 15:16
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Nvm forgot about oplano, they're better than mibr
2021-09-18 15:54
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Ireland Sodaking
i know this sucks but it has to be this way otherwise the sport will die completely in NA it's in dire situation rn but imagine how much worse it would be if Liquid was not a team they are literally the last stand for NA Cs rn vrs Valorant that is still on the rise in NA this is a problem as one day Europe could go that route
2021-09-18 16:04
#8
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Italy I_like_csgo
People shitted on NA even back when NA were alive and well, they just don't realize that this is a terrible time to keep shitting on NA as NA is seriously struggling
2021-09-18 13:49
#9
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CIS elefiveS
isnt hate. just rivalry
2021-09-18 13:49
#11
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Brazil Willpc
Yes, people are really dumb, look Valorant, is getting bigger at NA, TR, JP and many others regions, that's bring hype for the international events, sponsors that will likely see their brand adversitesed in the whole world. And u liking or not, NA is the biggest market out there, do u really think they Valorant would be as big as is today if NA wasn't the main region of the game? CS unfortunately is not handled by a company smart enough to realize this, if Valve was 10% of RIOT is, CS would be the most popular esport by far a long time ago, just look what the game achieved without almost any support.
2021-09-18 13:58
my entire drive for wanting to go pro is so that i can help put NA CS back on the map, i want to prove that we're skilled enough. also its ironic because usually when a pro in game misses a molly or something, its usually an EU player and everyone spams "NA MOLLY"
2021-09-18 14:01
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because its twitch chat lol
2021-09-18 14:28
Dear North Americans. There is no hate towards NA. Why would a normal sane person from EU hate a csgo fan or a pro player from NA? It simply doesnt exist. What exists however is a rivalrly between those two regions and a form of banter and trolling. People here pretend they hate NA to make you triggered. The real justified hate doesnt exist.
2021-09-18 14:13
1 reply
+1
2021-09-18 15:18
#30
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Germany mainak90
NA cs is in a tough spot true, but that will be a sad day if NA cs dies out. Lots of talented players on the NA scene. Big esports orgs like EG, Liquid and NRG should lead the way and keep the scene alive in these tough times. Its almost over, LAN will be back next year as a normal thing.
2021-09-18 15:23
smart user and +1
2021-09-18 15:57
who celebrating when Na`Vi beats Liquid? can you remember last time they played was 7+ months ago and why would Na`Vi fans celebrate Liquid beating? weirdo
2021-09-18 16:02
#36
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United States Rayduh
Liquid only team left
2021-09-18 16:04
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#38
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Ireland Sodaking
honestly tho if they fall the scene is officially dead in NA
2021-09-18 16:05
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#42
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United States Rayduh
If elige switches to Valorant I’m leaving too despite having 5k hours in CS (so about 4 hours per day for 3 years)
2021-09-18 16:14
I have always only like Liquid, because they are taking CS more seriously than other NA teams
2021-09-18 16:06
NA cs < Asian CS
2021-09-18 16:08
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nt Na 1 grand slam and 1 major asia 0
2021-09-18 16:10
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asia 1 major hobbit/adren/mou are from kazakhstan
2021-09-18 16:58
Asia 1 major NA?????
2021-09-20 04:02
its a meme u dip
2021-09-18 17:02
#51
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Mongolia tyqexe
they dont talk about asia LMAOOOO
2021-09-18 17:05
It's a meme bruh. Calm down. Peoples make jokes about NA scene is dead. But deep down, they still want to see NA compete on highest level. Who the fook going to compete against EU other than Navi & NA? Gambit is fake. Their fans is fake. Gambit isn't going to win anything for the rest of this year, and next year all of their fans changing their flair.
2021-09-18 17:06
#53
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Sweden 0sko
It's just a meme I don't think anyone thinks that NA dying would be beneficial for the game
2021-09-18 17:06
#54
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United States Phamous3k
This community is stubborn and instead of rectifying an issue by being vocal to TOs, orgs and developers well... Hltv instead says stupid shit like "Ohh we dont need NA, they suck".. "Female CS is garbage, tell them just play with men" etc. So, then entire regions and communities leave and they act like somehow it benefits the scene as a whole. NA vs EU/CIS is one of the biggest viewed rivalries in all of esports... So, if Liquid leaves all you have left is some regional powerhouses. Na'Vi v Vitality 20 times a year lol. Good job Europe. You won! lol Idk... People are just stupid.
2021-09-18 17:08
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It’s not that deep, don’t take it too personal, there is and has always been a competition between all the regions and countries, trashtalking is part of esports and it brings excitement to the matches, stop trying to look like a victim
2021-09-18 17:14
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#59
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United States Phamous3k
No one is looking like a victim lol where did you even get that idea. Read the comments... People genuinely think the scene will do better with vital pieces missing. But lol Here goes the "Let me create this nonsense narrative instead of focusing on the issue". Forget this victim crap you on and look at the actual issue lol. Like I said, this community can be stupid and stubborn...
2021-09-18 18:15
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Ofc there will be some people acting like cs will do gr8 without NA but that’s the minority, exception does not make the rule, most of us who jokingly trashtalk, don’t actually think that getting rid of NA is a good idea, it’s obviously not true, obviously we need NA like we saw from MLG columbus 2016 which set record for most live viewers on a esport stream or something like that, it’s really not that deep, most of us just fucking around and the samll exception who actually think that getting rid of na is a good idea are delusional or just too young
2021-09-18 18:20
It’s not that deep lmao, trashtalk is and has always been part of esports, people trashtalk every team and region there is, some more than the others, it’s all fun and games it’s their fault for taking it too seriously, it’s literally not that deep
2021-09-18 17:10
all hate is dumb, everyone should just be friends
2021-09-18 18:19
#62
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Russia Trueteller
yeah it's dumb but it's mostly a meme at this point, I don't think (regular) people hate their CS or their players but it's objective facts they probably shoudn't have as many spots as CIS region for majors at this moment.. if EU throws bad molly I say EU moly if NA throws bad molly I say NA molly so not all bullying is serious, it's memes
2021-09-18 18:54
#65
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Brazil Bactuga
I Would say its already dead, almost all of the NA Teams have ATLEAST 1 person from Europe, Brazil or South Africa, the best FULL NA team is BNB and we saw how they did in EPL S14...
2021-09-20 04:04
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