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M4A1-S
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Norway mYRTcool 
Is it op now? Should i switch?
2021-09-23 14:48
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Faster time to kill
2021-09-23 14:49
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#45
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Norway mYRTcool
Damn
2021-09-23 15:43
2 replies
2021-09-23 16:24
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#135
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Lithuania andy_
2021-09-27 12:09
not if you dink+bodyshot
2021-09-26 01:58
4 replies
same for mp9, then not use a4
2021-09-26 02:29
3 replies
Mp9 dink+bodyshot = kill?🤔
2021-09-26 03:04
2 replies
Mp9 dink+dink=kill
2021-09-26 10:39
#129
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Spain N0Love
dink + 2 bodyshots I think
2021-09-27 11:58
#2
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Poland mich34
its aight
2021-09-23 14:49
1 reply
#44
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Norway mYRTcool
Ait
2021-09-23 15:43
it wont help if you can't aim :)
2021-09-23 14:50
2 replies
not wrong
2021-09-23 15:11
#34
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Norway mYRTcool
I can aim and brain
2021-09-23 15:38
#5
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Brazil NaNDO4j
To strong
2021-09-23 15:12
12 replies
two*
2021-09-23 15:14
11 replies
twice*
2021-09-23 15:16
10 replies
#18
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Czech Republic Squeezy7
double*
2021-09-23 15:23
9 replies
two times
2021-09-23 15:26
#25
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Denmark Ju1cek
duo*
2021-09-23 15:26
7 replies
#43
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Norway mYRTcool
Pair
2021-09-23 15:42
6 replies
duplet*
2021-09-23 15:46
5 replies
#54
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Brazil NaNDO4j
Nani?
2021-09-23 15:58
2 replies
both
2021-09-23 16:05
1 reply
oba
2021-09-26 12:50
dual
2021-09-26 01:50
1 reply
second*
2021-09-26 02:32
yes its the best thing since sliced bread
2021-09-23 15:13
4 replies
#35
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Norway mYRTcool
Not better than kebab
2021-09-23 15:38
#49
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United States byucatch22
you mean silenced bread
2021-09-23 15:47
2 replies
#142
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South Africa Kirchir
+1 made me laugh hehe Have a great day further mens)) xx <3
2021-09-27 15:56
1 reply
Well then mission accomplished! Have a good one mate!
2021-09-27 18:24
#8
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India pokedyo
so m4a1-s>m4a4 now?
2021-09-23 15:14
6 replies
yes
2021-09-23 15:33
2 replies
#42
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Norway mYRTcool
Interesting
2021-09-23 15:41
1 reply
facts
2021-09-23 15:52
statistically, yes
2021-09-23 18:48
#93
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Europe Daudy
That really depends. I guess most anchors will keep A4 you need the faster ROF and ammo... But more fluid role players and awpers will probably play A1S for some time
2021-09-26 01:57
1 reply
+1
2021-09-27 15:41
not really, its more viable now, if you hit headshots then a4 should be better for you
2021-09-23 15:15
16 replies
but it's impossible cuz m4a1s is better for landing headshots
2021-09-23 15:21
15 replies
#94
Polin | 
Europe Daudy
follow up shot is much slower
2021-09-26 01:57
14 replies
but if you position yourself good you'll kill him anyway and you won't give so much info about your position, +spraying through smokes with a1s is so op rn, 4bullets in body=kill +enemies don't see bullets so they don't know where they should shoot back
2021-09-26 02:19
9 replies
I didnt say which is better but a4 is still faster if you dink thats just a fact and thats why #17 is "wrong"
2021-09-26 10:29
8 replies
it's not wrong, it's true, i don't know anyone who would say that one taps are easier with a4 than a1s
2021-09-26 12:43
7 replies
Did you even read what i wrote? this isnt about onetaps but ttk if you dink and a4 is just better there. WHat dont you get? Dinking with a1 is pretty much the same as a4 the follow up shot is fatser in a4 hence why ttk IF you dink is better with a4...
2021-09-26 12:49
6 replies
bro ik you're right that headshot +bodyshot with a4 is still faster but noone is scream that shoots only headshots, a1s is less random weapon which means you can be more consistent with it and land some headshots you wouldn't land while using a4
2021-09-26 12:55
1 reply
Lots of duels won by m4 happen with dink. And when i am spectating players like elige i almost always see dinks. I mean i know that nobody has 100% headshot % but the whole debate started by #9 was about hitting headshot... if you have high hs % you should probably still use a4
2021-09-26 13:00
i don't disagree with a fact that with a4 it's faster to kill someone, i just wanted to say that a1s is better in so many aspects outside of this one which makes it just better
2021-09-26 12:56
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#106 "I didnt say which is better but a4 is still faster if you dink thats just a fact"
2021-09-26 12:58
2 replies
bro wtf? i'm not trying to convince you or something, we aren't arguing, i just wanted to add this to the conversation, it's not an attack on your person or some other shit, i just wanted to say that except a4's faster time ti kill, a1s is better
2021-09-26 13:01
1 reply
I dont think its attack or argument but even #9 acknowledges the a1 is good he just thinks that if you hit HS a lot you should keep a4 which seems like solid line of thinking. No offense but everybody is calling a1s OP, we know its good.
2021-09-26 13:02
It's easier to aim with weapons with slow fire rate imo. Don't know about other people but I'm much more accurate with sg , m4a1s than with ak and m4a4
2021-09-26 04:12
3 replies
That seriously depends on recoil... If the weapon has high fire rate but low recoil it will be easier to aim than slow fire rate high recoil... For you m4a1s is better (i guess because of hte first few bullets are slightly more accurate) but that doeant mean that m4a4 is harder to get headshots. If anything - getting ding - m4a1s , getting KILL - thats where m4a4 is still faster
2021-09-26 10:28
2 replies
Yeah maybe but sg has higher recoil than ak and I still find it easier to kill opponents with sg
2021-09-26 11:04
1 reply
Try spraying with SG vs AK and you will not find it easier. With both m4s you basically have to spray you cant afford to tap with m4 in better ranks and this is MM we are talking about not even faceit or esea.
2021-09-26 11:07
same shit
2021-09-23 15:16
3 replies
better then the a4 atm in terms of ttk. Only thing that M4 is superior atm is one HS and one body shot time to kill cause of the higher firerate. Also 30 > 25 bullets. But all in all when considering the price, the A1s is deffo better now and there is almost no point in using the other.
2021-09-23 15:25
average silver 2 player spotted
2021-09-23 15:32
1 reply
i dont talk whit green level on GC
2021-09-23 15:37
Pretty funny to use rn, but it will get nerfed again soon lol
2021-09-23 15:16
8 replies
+1 m4a1s always get nerfed in the end
2021-09-23 15:31
4 replies
omg its the future president of winland
2021-09-23 16:01
3 replies
yea fuck that man. winland will be sold to Sweden in 2050s cuz we are broke.
2021-09-23 16:38
2 replies
Thats good because it's Swedish land and Sweden is the real superpower of Scandinavia
2021-09-25 23:31
1 reply
+1 I like Sweden so I have no problem with that, taxes are lower in Sweden also "easier" to become rich
2021-09-26 10:41
#92
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Finland kalza1
maybe price increase to 3000 or 3100 would be good, maybe even make it truly balanced?
2021-09-26 01:53
2 replies
#96
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Europe Daudy
with current CT economy just make them both 3K or swap prices
2021-09-26 01:58
1 reply
#126
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Finland kalza1
true
2021-09-26 18:33
Not op but good
2021-09-23 15:18
1 reply
#41
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Norway mYRTcool
Works for me
2021-09-23 15:40
#14
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Estonia nordjoker
50/50 i think
2021-09-23 15:18
2 replies
#40
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Norway mYRTcool
Enough to give it a try
2021-09-23 15:40
1 reply
#127
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Estonia nordjoker
well why not?
2021-09-27 11:56
best weapon ever.
2021-09-23 15:24
1 reply
#37
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Norway mYRTcool
Imo pp-bizon is bestest
2021-09-23 15:39
I dont have a1s skin so I wont use it
2021-09-23 15:29
3 replies
#32
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Brazil gucarletto
+1
2021-09-23 15:35
#39
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Norway mYRTcool
Sell m4 and Get cooler a1-s skin
2021-09-23 15:40
+1
2021-09-27 11:57
its good rn as good as ak but easier to aim im using it
2021-09-23 15:30
1 reply
#38
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Norway mYRTcool
I giv try
2021-09-23 15:39
Not good enough that it'll mute A4, but you'll probably see it more in pro games
2021-09-23 15:30
2 replies
im sure s1mple zywoo will only use silencers and others who already did that wont change i think
2021-09-23 15:38
1 reply
yea totally agree
2021-09-23 16:55
Not OP but surely better than M4A4 now.
2021-09-23 15:43
2 replies
#47
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Norway mYRTcool
Wow fr?
2021-09-23 15:44
1 reply
I mean, body damage of M4A1-S is better. The legend of "98 in 4 hits" is no more.
2021-09-23 16:13
Its perfect, must be like this from forever
2021-09-23 15:47
#51
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Finland kalza1
isnt a4 still faster fire rate? so it should be kinda balanced
2021-09-23 15:50
8 replies
#52
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Finland kalza1
2 taps to the head are faster with a4 right?
2021-09-23 15:51
3 replies
#68
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China HEIDASHUAi
Yes since the A4 still has the faster firerate of 666 rpm, and the damage buff to the A1s obviously isn't enough to 1 tap a player with helmet and kevlar
2021-09-23 16:46
2 replies
#77
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Finland kalza1
yea so it does balance out nice!
2021-09-23 18:09
1 reply
#79
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China HEIDASHUAi
Very nice))
2021-09-23 18:45
#58
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Sweden Lagge15
666 rpm for A4 660 rpm for a1s
2021-09-23 16:08
3 replies
False. M4A1-S has a 600rpm
2021-09-23 16:29
2 replies
#69
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China HEIDASHUAi
+1
2021-09-23 16:46
+1
2021-09-26 13:43
#57
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Sweden Lagge15
Higher damage per second Higher damage per bullet No tracers Less firerate Silencer Cheaper You decide As someone who has used the A1s for years I thought it was balanced before the update. I can't see a single reason more than spray pattern comfort for using A4
2021-09-23 16:08
10 replies
#76
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United States byucatch22
makes sense
2021-09-23 17:10
#78
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Finland kalza1
m4a4 fas a faster double tap headshot so "technically" still has the faster ttk
2021-09-23 18:09
8 replies
yes but if you exclude headshots, m4a1-s is better in every single way, no more 98 in 4 etc and dont act like everyone are a 2tap headshot god with a4 lol, you almost almost spray or burst you dont go for 2 taps xd
2021-09-25 23:34
7 replies
#84
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Finland kalza1
yea yea ofc I know, im just saying that it isnt like a 100-0 to the a1-s currently
2021-09-25 23:45
5 replies
No but its like 85-15 dude... if m4a1 is better in everything except 2 shot hs then clearly the bigger majority will use it
2021-09-25 23:47
4 replies
#87
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Finland kalza1
ammo
2021-09-26 00:02
3 replies
yeah but if you need 25 bullets for 1 or 2 kills then no gun will save you
2021-09-26 00:04
2 replies
#90
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Finland kalza1
well you can spam through walls and smokes more carelessly with the a4, also longer sprays are good (btw, im a a1-s user myself, im still just saying that its not like a completely one sided choice)
2021-09-26 01:49
1 reply
#141
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Sweden kresso
Not really through smoke cuz u have no tracers with a1
2021-09-27 15:53
Is not better is preference as other guys mentioned a4 fires faster but also bigger spray and for some players is better if they good sprayers or spray transfers feel better for fast multikills while a1 is good in smokes or 1v1s usually. u get 5 rounds more per clip and u get 4 clips of 30 while u get 4 clips of 25 on a1
2021-09-26 13:08
I was using it before anyway, because if I wanted something closer to the A4 I'd just use the AUG.
2021-09-23 16:11
#60
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United States LemiTZzZ
Been using A1-S anyway, hehe
2021-09-23 16:12
game is ruined.. gg
2021-09-23 16:15
you should've switched even before this buff, it's good gun, definitely switch (or maybe switch both M4 guns up depending on a map you play, for example: m4a4 for mirage, inferno, vertigo, ancient (close range maps...) and m4a1s for dust2, train, overpass, etc
2021-09-23 16:19
wont use a1s even if it can 1 tap. a4 gang 4lyf
2021-09-23 16:23
no brainer this is , cheaper gun does more damage, that cheaper thing already is great, also better accuracy, and gun is silent, standing in smoke can really be dangerous this is such meta in a way that you wanna buy extra silencer on ground if possible :D
2021-09-23 16:59
#72
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Lithuania Jaguaras
Sound Silencer Price
2021-09-23 17:00
If it was the same price as the A4 I think it would be balanced. But because it is $200 cheaper I think it will be the preferred choice.
2021-09-23 17:01
1 reply
#74
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Norway mYRTcool
true
2021-09-23 17:06
The spray feels easier so go for it)
2021-09-25 23:47
m4a1s is better in all ways except that it has less bullets, spray is very easy to learn as well, switch as soon as you can
2021-09-26 01:38
#97
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Other jatakk
☝ Haram!
2021-09-26 02:03
Love this new buff
2021-09-26 02:32
#102
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China CantBanMe
I dont know if it's placebo but it feels so good atm.. but honestly both m4s are strong and in a great spot so you choose whichever you prefer
2021-09-26 02:39
#109
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Europe Nuskel
I think I'll stick to the m4a4 for the time being.
2021-09-26 10:46
3 replies
I love the m4a4, but now a1s is cheaper, same damage, has silencer There's no reason to stick to m4a4 except maybe fire rate which is slightly better
2021-09-27 12:00
2 replies
#136
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Europe Nuskel
Yeah, it's doesn't make much of a difference in my case. It won't make me good all of a sudden.
2021-09-27 15:39
1 reply
ct economy is tough enough, it's a welcomed upgrade Won't make you better but this is the best choice atm
2021-09-27 15:44
#112
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Finland shadenn
It feels rly easy wep. I never used m4a1-s before the update but after the update I haven't used m4a4 anymore. Great wep.
2021-09-26 11:09
#117
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Netherlands n3wH0p3
No
2021-09-26 12:55
Who cars
2021-09-26 13:47
Yes, new meta
2021-09-27 11:59
#132
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Asia Kiyago
depends on your role, yes m4a1-s will replace in almost all scenarios now but Im not so sure on anchor roles
2021-09-27 12:05
I switched, everyone should
2021-09-27 12:06
A1s era incoming -A1s has the superior skins -A1s has faster ttk -A1s has silencer, no bullet tracers so smoke spam is very effective -A1s has higher first shot accuracy -A1s tags for the most amongst all rifles -A1s has smaller recoil, tighter spray so practically a laser -A1s has lowest damage drop off (1% per 500units) -A1s is cheaper -A1s sounds sexy af -A1s looks sexy af Hot damn that's a beautiful rifle
2021-09-27 12:14
Fix inc in a few months after crying pros, just like with aug and sg
2021-09-27 15:42
A4 still more versatile imo
2021-09-27 15:50
It's not OP, since it's up against AK.
2021-09-27 15:55
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