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why is it sad?
2021-09-23 21:55
5 replies
sad because they totally threw the round
2021-09-23 22:08
1 reply
i think he just talking about the update, not this clip
2021-09-23 22:10
Bro, everything will be sad for this ex pro. I wonder if his last team failure is also that sad for him
2021-09-24 10:38
1 reply
i dont think he is ex pro yet
2021-09-24 14:45
new update is bad and good at the same time
2021-09-24 13:47
"Expert" xd
2021-09-23 21:55
1 reply
yeah. How is it "easy to read" when you candouble fake it and just go to the same site.. Lmao
2021-09-24 18:11
#3
B1T | 
Greece Noocklas
the bad thing is that they changed it now and not 8 years ago
2021-09-23 21:56
2 replies
exactly, such a change is very drastic for those who follow and participate in the competitive scene, of course it has its positive points, but it changes the essence of the game
2021-09-23 21:59
1 reply
#154
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Hungary Mitomen20
+1 Launders with logic
2021-09-24 18:04
30 replies
completely agree
2021-09-23 22:01
+1 MSL acting like hes having a good take while this is actually harmless
2021-09-23 22:12
17 replies
“Acting like he’s having a good take” ??? He stated his opinion on it, how is that acting?
2021-09-23 22:28
5 replies
1. saying it 2. mentioning @CSGO 3. “what we want it to be” as if he speaks for everyone
2021-09-23 23:15
4 replies
dont care tbh, its just straight up dumb to say that he is "acting like he has a good take" when he's simply stating his opinion. Honestly sounds like something spunj would say
2021-09-23 23:46
2 replies
He made this post like he discovered smth crazy while he made himself look dumb af
2021-09-24 10:45
1 reply
Not at all. Dude stated his opinion xD R U actually acting like u have a good take?🤔🤔🤔
2021-09-24 20:27
He said "is this really what we want it to be?" it's a rhetorical question.... jesus
2021-09-24 09:10
see both lau and MSL are right. lau is right in that it will be used only in t94 hell, and MSL is correct in complaining since he plays in t94.
2021-09-24 00:59
9 replies
#76
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Argentina Frannnnnnn
hahahahahaha +1
2021-09-24 01:14
LOL +1
2021-09-24 01:28
fuckin butchered so true tho
2021-09-24 09:02
Rekt xD
2021-09-24 09:03
#101
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Finland jakem0n
OUCH xD
2021-09-24 09:09
#107
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Finland kalza1
+1
2021-09-24 09:41
Murderer
2021-09-24 09:48
#114
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Czech Republic _VetriX
+1
2021-09-24 10:04
CHRIST LOL
2021-09-24 10:35
#126
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Israel selukvey
+1. creative people will find a nice use for it, and if its good probably all csgo players will use it, just like brax improvised that glock fake drop and tons of people use it. same goes with fnatic buying 5 autosnipers in dust2 t-side to spam mid, if it works or w/e people with use it, but if it won't people will forget about it, just like revolver.
2021-09-24 10:44
+1
2021-09-23 22:20
Trash argument
2021-09-23 22:22
4 replies
Very nice counterargument you make there
2021-09-23 22:48
2 replies
There's no argument to dissect in the first place. Not only do people care about how it looks, the fact that he's implying that it will only happen in the lowest tiers is also questionable at best. And what does it matter if it's only there, is Pro CS the only angle that should matter when you look at changes Valve does? Launders arguments are fucking stupid.
2021-09-24 10:25
1 reply
TRUE. when will people stop agreeing with launders just because he is from pakistan?
2021-09-24 17:27
#73
Polin | 
Europe Daudy
Since when was more options in CS has been trash argument? MSL is acting like some elitist tard who dislikes something new and is describing it in way where everybody who likes that new thing is coloured as tasteless idiot.
2021-09-24 01:06
#59
JW | 
Sweden EntonXD
MSL is scared because he is in t94 hell
2021-09-24 00:49
2 replies
LMAO
2021-09-24 08:52
#100
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Czech Republic Poloolpp
+1111
2021-09-24 09:07
Totally agreed
2021-09-24 11:02
Well cuz it is a pro scene every little detail matter, i dont mind whether they changed it or not
2021-09-24 11:16
he isn’t
2021-09-23 21:57
#6
JW | 
Switzerland Titan))
+1 if u wanna make nades dropable, restrict it to buy time
2021-09-23 21:58
9 replies
+1
2021-09-23 22:22
true, easy fix. maybe.. unless you manage to throw a HE at mirage t spawn so perfectly to make the dropped flashes land where AcilioN was standing, hmmmm
2021-09-24 01:25
3 replies
on d2 you could drop 5 nades close to ct spawn for example and just chain nade short when the opponents decide to go there, imo that seems kinda op. Or nade side when they are planting. Or you drop a flash each outside long and 1 guy flashes long 5 times so you have an extra body there This update is either gonna be not used or broken af in certain situations and i think the 500 IQ IGLs and coaches will figure out ways to abuse it for maximum success. Im looking forward to astralis for example
2021-09-24 11:04
2 replies
it's definitely going to make for some interesting new strats. but I'm really not sure whether to like it or not... your examples do seem a little OP lol
2021-09-24 17:09
1 reply
I like the idea, i like valve trying it but im not sure if ill love the feature either. It gives ur team some cool new strats tho, especially at a non professional level you might get away with some mindgames
2021-09-24 17:16
#104
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Finland jakem0n
+1 this could be good. Doesnt change the game that much but tbh I dont mind the current state either. Now my friends can give smokes to me and I can do executes since none of my friends know any other smokes than default A smokes on Mirage or something xD Lets see how this changes the professional play. Might be interesting to see some epic stacks with utility. (this 100 flashes on A is probably most silver thing I've seen)
2021-09-24 09:13
1 reply
#106
shox | 
Finland wormi
unless you are very very fast that reduces smoke time though so it is not best solution, but surely helps for like one smoke for professionals I think only effect will be sometimes stacking molotovs to one site (like mirage or inferno B sites) with a risky moves, as someone must carry the molotov there anyway first, or then low HP player getting another set of utility from high HP player in clutch, so that high HP guy can take better gun and peek when low HP guy flashes
2021-09-24 09:39
+1
2021-09-24 09:52
#128
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Israel selukvey
I was thinking about limiting it to freezetime only, and increase slightly the amount of nades/mollys purchasable, like more than 1 nade and 1 molly, so people can lets say drop 2-5 nades and go nade mid or something in eco's. but its also sucks because people will just leave tons of nades in spawns like 15 smokes or something. so maybe dropped nades has a time limit?
2021-09-24 10:55
#7
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Ukraine Alexandro21
No he's not. Please stop crying.
2021-09-23 21:58
#9
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Czech Republic haix_cs_god
i almost never like launders and his attitude overall what he says but he just makes too much sense
2021-09-23 22:00
i think dropping greanades should be only allowed during freezetime
2021-09-23 22:01
4 replies
#22
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Czech Republic JameS_19
+1
2021-09-23 22:14
that is actually great idea.
2021-09-23 22:15
+1
2021-09-23 22:36
+1
2021-09-24 10:36
#11
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North America 007DBR9
keep nade limits ez fix
2021-09-23 22:01
13 replies
agree, allow dropping the whole round, but limit the amount of nades each player can buy (1 nade, 1 smoke, 1 molly, 2 flashes)
2021-09-23 22:04
12 replies
#15
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North America 007DBR9
+1
2021-09-23 22:03
but thats...how it is rn?
2021-09-23 22:20
10 replies
#34
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Bulgaria IosiG
I think their idea is that you can't have more than 2 flashes during a round. So you can't pick up a dropped flash
2021-09-23 22:25
7 replies
#35
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Bulgaria IosiG
Ofc applied to other grenades too
2021-09-23 22:25
then the feature is kind of useless, if you can drop the flash, but nobody can pick it up :D Or I kind of dont understand. :D Right now for example if you survived with HE grenade, you can´t buy new one. The amount of nades within the team is the same as before. If there was restriction that you can USE only 1 mollo, 1 nade, 2 flashes, 1 smoke and 1 decoy, that feature would become useless. Im not sure how to feel about this, could spice the game up. Only thing I know I disagree with right now is the timing of the update. They should have released it in players break and not right before RMR events.
2021-09-23 22:29
5 replies
#52
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Bulgaria IosiG
I think I didn't phrase myself correctly mens (( Let's say you start with 0 flashes. Teammate drops you 2 flashes. You use them. Now you can't pick up any more flashes I don't think this would be an ideal change, just explaining the other peoples idea Also ye I think this shouldn't have been before major, but it will make it more of a shitfest which might be fun to watch lol
2021-09-23 23:27
4 replies
but the player who dropped the flashes can't buy any more so what's the point?
2021-09-24 01:18
Bad idea, so if u found a smoke mid round u will not be able to use?
2021-09-24 01:21
1 reply
#105
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Finland jakem0n
+1
2021-09-24 09:14
okay you kill an enemy he drops a flash now what?
2021-09-24 09:49
It's not? You buy a smoke, drop it and buy another one. The suggestion is to limit how many of each you can buy, but you would surely be able to pick up a smoke if somebody dropped it, but that's about it.
2021-09-23 23:30
1 reply
If you try that, you get the "You can only buy one grenade of this type" message. The only way you can manage to drop one and buy one is if you had one on the previous round.
2021-09-24 00:54
#14
gla1ve | 
Denmark JKTP
Wow it really worked so well gamechanging really
2021-09-23 22:03
8 replies
one round one day after the update did not work, must be useless then, no way people are gonna exploit this anyhow XD
2021-09-23 22:21
7 replies
#39
gla1ve | 
Denmark JKTP
If you are going to use an example, then atleast show me an example where it actually was OP because i haven't seen a single one yet Just because a new thing was added doesn't mean it's op.
2021-09-23 22:30
4 replies
Im not saying its OP in the current stage, because the whole thing is new and is yet to be played at tournament, Im saying that it is too early to say it is not op. Maybe it is, maybe not, but only time will tell, you cannot really say after a few days.
2021-09-23 22:46
there aren't many examples yet, because not many livestreamed higher tier tournaments use the new rules yet. there will be examples when the update is fully in place. just not sure if they will be good or bad though.. only time will tell
2021-09-24 01:28
2 replies
In my eyes something is only OP once proven so i think MSL is wrong. It's like a criminal case. "Innocent until proven guilty".
2021-09-24 15:24
1 reply
yeah as i said only time will tell. there will be examples of how this is used and it's on the players to deal with it
2021-09-24 17:08
things look bad one day after that update. Wow this must be a garbage update valve pls fix. Do you even listen to your own argument?
2021-09-24 01:00
1 reply
Tf are you talking about? I never said anything like this? What is your point literally?
2021-09-24 08:21
He isn't. it's a whole new meta change, things will adjust with time, maybe it won't be used if it isn't effective (which wasn't in this particular video). Only thing bad about this change is the timing, it should be released after the major.
2021-09-23 22:05
1 reply
i think this update was meant to release in summer but was delayed for some reason. the theme really tells it - the sea, beaches etc. valve just couldn't hold it any longer so they decided to release yesterday - just my thoughts
2021-09-23 22:24
I hate danish cs nerds who try to always play some smart cs. This is gonna be fun to watch, pro teams can troll and have fun.
2021-09-23 22:11
completely harmless update MSL just malding (literally)
2021-09-23 22:12
what people laughing at msl dont understand is wait until u see teams figure out the full potential of this nade change
2021-09-23 22:22
2 replies
We all understand that and we are all waiting for it to finally happen. If ppl like you were in control we would still play 1.6
2021-09-24 10:59
1 reply
this change lowers the skill gap, its no longer an advantage to be able to count and comm utility use by the enemy, no longer an important decision as to whether u save util for late round or not (as a teammate could just give u a nade to set up a retake / play afterplant), and the ability to fake became much easier (yes I know it is readable as util can be thrown 1by1, but its still enough to delay a rotation by 10 secs or so), meaning that its no longer a risk to commit 2 people to a fake. Hard entrys / cts that play positions that dont need util can just dump their util for someone else, meaning that playing that role is no longer as much of a risk as it was before, and imo reducing the risk reward factor of the game makes it less interesting and reduces the skill gap in decision making
2021-09-24 13:42
#30
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Brazil setsz
2021-09-23 22:22
#31
OK | 
Peru TheJuan
Again with that clip
2021-09-23 22:23
WHO THE FUCK IS THAT 40YO DAD COMPLAINING ABOUT CS:GO UPDATE??
2021-09-23 22:23
5 replies
IGL who has won big events, outstratted prime astralis
2021-09-23 23:34
4 replies
still wrong with this update
2021-09-23 23:35
Still an opinion is an opinion)
2021-09-23 23:56
Happened only once and he barely ever won anything considering in how many tourneys he played, he's not qualified to speak for everyone or seriously complaining about it
2021-09-24 09:00
1 reply
many pros will go their entire career without winning many trophies,. nowhere in his tweet does he try to speak for anyone but himself. why is he not qualified to post complaints on the internet? who tf is qualified to criticize gameplay changes if not pro players?
2021-09-24 15:21
I couldn't agree more with him
2021-09-23 22:26
#40
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Denmark Zorrondo
csgo players always acting like boomers hating everything that changes a little bit the game. that's why valve only cares about dota 2 patches.
2021-09-23 22:31
Im sorry but these entilted pros who think they own CS and say what is good or not, should stfu. Reminder that these pros (the older ones so MSL comes in), also said back in the early days of CS:GO that mollys should be banned from competitive play. now look where we at. (yeah mollys were broken i remember, but stuff gets tweaked, Valve listens, but if u act like that, there is nothing where valve can listen to, and improve the feature).
2021-09-23 22:37
1 reply
+1 change was needed, now valve introduced change, people complain like always
2021-09-24 10:31
another "brightest mind of csgo" tweeting bullshit Why don't he find a clip of a tier25 team playing with 5 m249 and say 'this is not how I want CSGO to be played'
2021-09-23 22:40
3 replies
What you mention can't be compared. People buying certain guns isn't changing the whole meta, unless the weapon is overpowered when it shouldn't be, which isn't the case in your example :)
2021-09-24 00:46
2 replies
how is buying nades and dropping them to your teammate at one site, then rushing opposite site without nades and losing the round because of it - overpowered?
2021-09-24 11:56
they literally lose the round because of it
2021-09-24 11:56
They did infact deserved to lose this round , karma knows its job.
2021-09-23 22:48
#47
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Europe GumGuyHLTV
And this is how valorant kills CSGO for real.
2021-09-23 22:50
#49
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Europe GKDNZ
msl is MAD but wh0 cares
2021-09-23 23:18
Mad cause bad
2021-09-23 23:20
This clip has been shared too many times
2021-09-23 23:22
#60
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Poland Hanse
What's sad here? Creating team then disbanding after one month?
2021-09-24 00:49
#61
JW | 
Sweden EntonXD
its an overrated change thats mostly going to just be someone lobbing 6 flashes over b apps on mirage.
2021-09-24 00:50
#62
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Brazil Karlogaria
Get a real team first, then you can cry about the grenade changes in pro CS, MSL
2021-09-24 00:52
Oh wow, I didn't even think about this, hhhmmm.
2021-09-24 00:54
#66
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Russia k0wkuH
csgo will be a joke omfg
2021-09-24 01:00
#68
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Russia Trueteller
the nades thing I like, fun to see these nerdy strats (and ppl overestimate how often it will work) I hate the new d2 though haha. so they will remove the iconic place which has a graffiti, it's just dumb.
2021-09-24 01:01
1 reply
they can put it somewhere else, the positive side is that no one will be able to repeat the move again
2021-09-24 01:02
We have to wait and see how it happens. We ask Valve to bring changes and when they come do we criticize before testing them?
2021-09-24 01:01
2 replies
we criticize because they release BEFORE testing
2021-09-24 01:02
1 reply
I also thought it was kind of wrong to release something so different right before an important championship, they should apply it to the comp only after
2021-09-24 01:04
I agree with MSL this time
2021-09-24 01:06
1 reply
+1
2021-09-24 01:10
who asked?
2021-09-24 01:14
1 reply
Valve asked
2021-09-24 01:16
He is right. CS is a joke with these kind of plays. youtube.com/watch?v=i_UBj9mAY4w
2021-09-24 01:19
2 replies
pro matches definetly wont have this kinds of shit trust me bro...
2021-09-24 01:23
1 reply
tier 2 will, tier 1 won't, yes
2021-09-24 01:31
do u remeber when Valve added 2 new maps 14 days before major? what a days...
2021-09-24 01:22
Why don't just copy Valulrant buying-system , that's perfect system imo
2021-09-24 01:25
#86
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Spain Nepomu
His career even more sad
2021-09-24 01:26
Well to be fair Valve has not done anything good for CS for many years. The best they could do is to step down and let in new leadership, so things can change and all the old bad habits of ignoring and supporting cheating of different kinds and bad choices can be washed away. Real change will never come from these people who have allowed cheating and cheaters to roam free because they fear the scandal of ending it all more than having it in their game. This also effect the meta changes and the other changes they put into the game or change about the game, because they do it from a point of protecting the dark past, rather than creating the future of what CS should, could and can be.
2021-09-24 01:41
2 replies
holy shit cry more pls
2021-09-24 01:53
1 reply
Not sure if you just have trouble reading or you meant to answer someone else in a bad way. What you said do not fit anything in the message you choose to reply to.. If you want to try again I will see if you do better and there is some actual "content" to reply to or if its just more empty air. If the latter, ( most likely will be looking at what little you could manage in the first reply ) I do wish you a good night.
2021-09-24 02:55
shitty take, It clearly didn't work and won't at high lvl of cs, maybe in dmg mm it will.
2021-09-24 01:51
MSL worrying about the future of csgo when his days on a top 20 team are numbered 😭
2021-09-24 02:05
1 reply
he got outplayed by spirit academy lmaooo he can be happy if they let him coach an academy team for himself
2021-09-24 09:11
msl is not right its not easy to read at all actually even on low lvl smurf account i already had some hard to read nade exchange maybe it was by miscommunication and solo anyway still was impossible to read
2021-09-24 09:44
Msl is right though, before this faking a bombsite was harder, but now like 1person can fake an entire site hit with rotations
2021-09-24 09:44
still waiting MSL's team to reach top 5 when he said that in 2018
2021-09-24 09:57
1 reply
what that have to do with MSL said in the tweet wtf
2021-09-24 10:29
#115
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Korea jin67300
I agree with MSL this time
2021-09-24 10:15
i totaly agree
2021-09-24 10:26
If it will be so obvious for you then why cry about it? Use it to your advantage, you clearly need one.
2021-09-24 10:33
if people think this is broken or something, the best solution would be able to drop utility directly to teammates only, not on the ground. Imagine people drop 4 mollies in inferno b and 4 smokes for 1 guy to hold it and the rest stack A. Going to be fun
2021-09-24 10:40
2 replies
Smoke the molotov, do the default B execute with molotovs on orange and quad, smokes on CT and coffins and then flash into the site and kill the one guy. Alternatively, go A against a CT side that doesn't have any smokes or nades. ez gg
2021-09-24 14:51
1 reply
Yes but then how do you know there is no 4 people b? Or 5? Do default execute and then push through smoke and then if the guy is camping in front of smoke with mp9 or shotgun this will be rough
2021-09-24 20:05
Its cringest and most unright twitter cs:go post this year. Idk what is this weirdo crying about xD
2021-09-24 10:40
msl is is washed up bot so idc what he says
2021-09-24 11:13
2 replies
then if was s1mple tweeting that would you agree?
2021-09-24 18:01
1 reply
#155
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Hungary Mitomen20
s1mple will adapt not cry. Even though I'm not even a fan of him, but he'll definitely will make the best of the situation.
2021-09-24 18:06
msl grabbing onto this for his dear pro life. Washed bot.
2021-09-24 15:23
Msl irrelevant since 2018
2021-09-24 17:18
2 replies
Oh, so you have to be recognized as someone special for you to respect an oppinion. Where I come from, we call people like you suckups. Sheep. His knowledge about the game is still far better than most pro's, and that should weight a bit heavier than his current relevancy as a player.
2021-09-24 17:28
1 reply
How do you call people that respond with an essay and watery eyes to a semi serious answer? I call that a r****d.
2021-09-24 17:59
1 change in 100 years? nooo fk men so sad
2021-09-24 17:20
I think it's very nice. Support players will shine a bit more now.
2021-09-24 17:25
1 reply
meanwhile 5 cts will be made by idiots and the logic of using the grenades is totally useless
2021-09-24 18:03
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