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aleskib mechanically worst in t1?
sam | 
Russia ple_baiter 
There are arguments that support it: *worst hs% in t1 *0 1v4 clutches recorded in t1 in a modestly long career Now before simpletons come spouting karrigan or some other...there's a thing called role and aleksib doesn't have the worst. Flamez entries & niko supports
2021-09-24 20:01
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2021-09-24 20:02
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2021-09-24 20:02
0/8 just trying to stir the pot, fuck outta here
2021-09-24 20:02
5 replies
The title doesn't read, "aleksib worst player in t1?" Does it?
2021-09-24 20:04
1 reply
never said it did, not sure where u got that from champ
2021-09-24 20:16
#13
Polin | 
Europe Daudy
+1
2021-09-24 20:04
+1
2021-09-24 20:55
+1
2021-09-25 23:01
his IGLing is shit... 2 years hes been in OG and they havent done a thing
2021-09-24 20:03
20 replies
#14
Polin | 
Europe Daudy
Please tell me how is team of basically rejects supposed to win? They are basically FPX with better fragging IGL.
2021-09-24 20:05
17 replies
sure people said the same thing about Gambit before they started dominating too. What excuse you got next for him
2021-09-24 20:07
16 replies
#31
Polin | 
Europe Daudy
Gambit was academy team completly different to what OG and FPX are... Gambit has been together for longer with much more stable roster mvoes compared to OG which was basically forced to kick issaa. Everybody in gambit speaks their native languague compared to OG where everybody speaks their second languague except mantuu. Not to mention ax1le and hobbit are arguably top10 riflers, sh1ro is top10 awper AND nafany is probably best IGL in CIS. So Gambit: together for longer time, more stable roster, better comms , better players, speaks in native languague so more comfortable, assembled form beggining with better fitting roles for players.
2021-09-24 20:16
10 replies
+1
2021-09-24 20:17
he has been in charge of this roster for 2 years LOL how many more years does he need. Valde, Niko, Mantu and Flamez are rejects though sure
2021-09-24 20:22
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#46
Polin | 
Europe Daudy
valde, niko and aleksi are 100% rejects lmao
2021-09-24 20:39
7 replies
Valde a reject lol clueless
2021-09-24 20:47
6 replies
#83
Polin | 
Europe Daudy
Everybody who had to resort to playing for north is basically reject.
2021-09-25 12:25
Unless you are a fakeflagging finn still salty about aleksib ENCE drama you are just clueless. OG would struggle to be in the top20 with these overrated rejects without a top tier IGL. This guy belongs in G2/liquid/faze but he probably wont get there unless he makes some ruthless moves in his career and he seems too "nice" for that. So the budget org gets to benefit having a top10 team with minimal investment and they're punching above their weight because of the IGLing they have but dont deserve.
2021-09-25 22:59
4 replies
Don't worry Niko will make that ruthless move for him. Or maybe he will just take up IGL role himself
2021-09-25 23:03
fake flag because AleksiB is overrated sure thing LOL 2 years of nothing and counting
2021-09-26 00:04
2 replies
Thanks for confirming my doubts.
2021-09-26 00:07
1 reply
so let me guess losing to Faze is more success. Keep up the good work Aleksi
2021-09-26 00:40
#35
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Albania Mgoldfish1
how the fuck are gambits rejects ???? 4 brand new up and coming players and 1 player who was out of it.
2021-09-24 20:18
4 replies
and how is Valde, Mantu, Niko and Flamez rejects
2021-09-24 20:21
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#45
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Albania Mgoldfish1
valde north reject niko heroic reject mantuu and flamez are new but thats 3 rejects compared to 1 your delusional
2021-09-24 20:31
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#47
Polin | 
Europe Daudy
+1 Edit: not to mention that issa and NBK were also rejects when this team was assembled and Mantuu played role he didnt play before
2021-09-24 20:42
How is he a north reject if he wasn't kicked?
2021-09-24 23:53
#102
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North America 007DBR9
solid top 8 team and consistant playoffs isn't considered doing anything? nice brain and before you say ThEy'Re OnLy ToP 9 astralis and vp don't deserve their spots and faze is clearly a worse team
2021-09-25 23:04
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NA brain thinking thats success
2021-09-26 00:03
#5
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United States xcalibot
same as zeus but still manage to win a major
2021-09-24 20:03
#6
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United Kingdom Jerry2805
Didn't he get a 1v4 against the avangar / vp core a while back on mirage b bombsite?
2021-09-24 20:03
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#28
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United Kingdom Jerry2805
It was a 4k, that's why I was confused / thought it was a 1v4 mb
2021-09-24 20:14
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#51
JUGi | 
Finland Khroni
Yea its just one of those rounds that feels like a much more impressive clutch because he did most the work early round as well as clutching it after
2021-09-24 20:43
didnt know roles defines players being mechanically good also Boombl4 or karrigan are worse mechanically.
2021-09-24 20:03
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I suppose I vastly overstimated the language skills an average european posseses. By referencing roles I was explaining aleksib's ok stats as compared to mechanically better players such as boombl4 or karrigan who have worst stats
2021-09-24 20:06
#8
chrisJ | 
Germany _PH1L
i guess he kinda lurks too often - dies mid round and doesnt "go" for hs
2021-09-24 20:03
You're so bad at thinking in general
2021-09-24 20:03
1 reply
lmao +1
2021-09-24 20:15
top fragging against navi and you call him bad lol
2021-09-24 20:03
4 replies
#15
Polin | 
Europe Daudy
#3 sums it up
2021-09-24 20:05
That is a rather small sample size. And rating is not an exclusive indication of good mechanics. Also good mechanics doesn't define good players. Roles, gamesense and positioning also contribute in frags
2021-09-24 20:09
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#103
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North America 007DBR9
good mecahnics also includes movement which he is great at
2021-09-25 23:06
1 reply
Honestly didn't know that prior to this thread. Should've simply written aim
2021-09-25 23:08
Bro, because of you Russia don't have average iq 100<
2021-09-24 20:04
#16
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Estonia Sn4pzhat
what do we define as tier 1
2021-09-24 20:06
1 reply
im guessing top 10 for him since og is 9th?
2021-09-24 20:52
#19
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United States Rayduh
Everyone loses to Navi At this point they’re winning the major
2021-09-24 20:09
#20
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India BOTFergus
Dude don't compare Aleksi with Karrigan, Aleksi apart from Major Final didn't show anything. And people still call him one of the best IGL smh.
2021-09-24 20:09
11 replies
I don't think you understood what he meant correctly
2021-09-24 20:10
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#29
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India BOTFergus
I understood what he said but just wanted to point out. People say the IGLs can compensate their lower mechanical skills with their calling, but Aleksi is not actually doing it. Why do people still call him Top IGL? I don't get that argument. Apart from major run with ence with AUG meta, I haven't seen him doing things than other IGLs.
2021-09-24 20:14
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Even if he hasn't won a tournament with OG, aleksi has a history of making less than ideal teams work. With Ence, they managed to end Astralis' nuke streak and win blast pro series Madrid, with a team that doesn't have some of the biggest fraggers in the game tbh. If you look at Ence after aleksib, or xseven and aerial in Havu nowadays, there's no arguing that aleksib's influence as an IGL was important. Even with OG, the first roster lacked firepower but they still managed to pull upsets and be threatening. With this new OG roster, they have managed to be a good contender in the top20. I think saying that Aleksi didn't show anything is definitely wrong, he has a place among top IGLs, not top1, but he's in the top for sure
2021-09-24 20:23
2 replies
OG last year was overperformance on papers based on players
2021-09-24 20:47
1 reply
Yeah, the most you could blame him on is inconsistency, but he definitely managed to make things work with a non-optimal roster (and more than once)
2021-09-24 21:02
they dominated basically all tournaments made it to finals and lost to liquid back then, first team to beat astralis and won blast against them in finals
2021-09-24 23:56
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But after he got kicked, aleksib hasnt really achieved anything except a few 2nd places. Overall karrigan>aleksib as an IGL. But aleksib obviously has many years ahead of him so he definitely can achieve a lot more.
2021-09-25 23:07
4 replies
karrigan is way more experienced with better players tho. i still want aleksib sergej jamppi jimpphat doto team
2021-09-25 23:08
3 replies
Yeah, its kinda hard to compare karrigan with aleksib since they have a huge difference in experience. That team would be interesting to see for sure, but sadly i think Jamppi will stay in Valorant :/
2021-09-25 23:10
2 replies
nah he wont, legit valorant players are coming in huge and they will pass these csgo players soon and then come back to cs, jamppi already said he wants to come back to csgo at some time (within 2 years) and his liquid contract isnt too long probably and he signed it before he knew he got unbanned.
2021-09-25 23:14
1 reply
Well, maybe he will leave after the Valorant major is played at the end of the year. Would love to see him back and AWPing on a good team
2021-09-25 23:17
1/8 there's some grounds to your mediocre bait
2021-09-24 20:11
bullshit lmao watching and analysing 1 game of alexsib shows that there is nothing "bad" or "the worst" seen in his aim and movement typical dumbo looking at stats LMFAO
2021-09-24 20:09
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Incredible ignorance. It's the people replying to my threads who are looking only at stats. And in this game aleksib overperformed (0.98 avrg rating to 1.04 rating). I suppose if I made this thread after aleksib dropped some stellar 0.60 rating then yall would be cheering on
2021-09-24 20:12
9 replies
idk i dont watch the game rn but i remember him having very good -to sick movement, and his aim is also solid idk what the fuck ure talking about him being mechanically the worst lmao
2021-09-24 20:14
8 replies
Worst mechanics =/= worst player. Just sparking a discussion over a simple observation
2021-09-24 20:16
7 replies
but you didnt give anything to discuss just a hs% and a clutch stat. funny how you mention people only looking at stats #25 yet your only argument you make in the post is stats?
2021-09-24 20:19
6 replies
I didn't bring hltv 2.0 rating? Why are you falsely equating subjectivity with objectivity? Clutches & hs are objective numbers. Also mechanics is not something that can be quanitified. I merely spoke on eye test and provided some additional info just for people to discuss
2021-09-24 20:26
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again i never said you did bring in the hltv 2.0 rating idk why you keep imagining things im not saying. hs% and clutches are still a stat, they come under the umbrella of stats and thats all you added to your argument in your post so saying people are just bringing up stats is outrageously contradictory
2021-09-24 20:48
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Why are you willingly acting obtuse? I mentioned observable numbers. Others brought up hltv 2.0 rating.
2021-09-24 20:53
"I merely spoke on eye test" I can concluded from this post that you have no eyes
2021-09-24 20:53
2 replies
Ad hominem. Is that the only way you can respond with your limited vocabulary?
2021-09-24 20:54
1 reply
Here is a legitimate skill metric: Aleksib 4 launders demo reviews Karrigan, Boombl4 1 Sanji 0
2021-09-24 23:51
Aleksib is actually underrated in terms of the value he brings to a team. losing 2-1 to one of the best team of all time is actually ok, dont be so harsh bro
2021-09-24 20:20
More than 20 replies and 0 counter arguments. Ezpected nothing else but just wanted to stir the pot as #3 said. Some more arguments: *Aleksib is the first player to get kicked from a team on an upward swing for low fragging output *Aleksib's teams perform incredibly poor against super stars (remember zywoo clip against ence?). Can't remember a single time s1mple niko or zywoo went negative against OG
2021-09-24 20:29
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wasnt kicked for low fragging output and your 2nd point has nothing to do with his individual skill, og/ence have never had superstars players unless you count valde who is in a small slump rn. you should just stop posting lmao you clearly have 0 brain power, cant even keep a consistent argument smh
2021-09-24 20:51
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There wasn't an official reason given by ENCE but they did say sunny was a firepower upgrade and hence the meme. The second point wouldn't hold up if aleskib was a coach but as a player he's 20% of his team. You seem to miss the point from the get go. This isn't an argument for the courts; cs mechanics is not something that can be quanitified
2021-09-24 21:14
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you say that like all 5 players are meant to be equal in terms of firepower when theyre not, he's 20% of the team yes, he's also 60% of their tactics, playstyle, reads etc
2021-09-24 22:10
stopped reading when saw the flag
2021-09-24 20:28
Not the worst, just really really average
2021-09-24 20:40
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Then who gets the crown of the worst? Karrigan? From eye test he seems slightly better and also plays the role of hard support. I think he has also won the h2h the few times he has played against aleksib
2021-09-24 20:47
#49
doto | 
Finland Jutila
aleskib is a god :33
2021-09-24 20:41
Boombl4 has a worse hs% lol what is your point
2021-09-24 20:42
2 replies
so does zywoo, s1mple, and so many legends. reading their name explains the thread though
2021-09-24 20:48
1 reply
yeah, but they're awpers so you expect them to have a lower hs s1mple even has a higher hs% than boombl4 and he's an awper lol
2021-09-24 20:54
karrigan by far lol
2021-09-24 20:43
#53
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Bangladesh Santho
aleksib is fine...What about niko? What about -niko cheater +MICHU/oBo?
2021-09-24 20:44
#54
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Europe GKDNZ
who says he's t1 LUL
2021-09-24 20:44
1 reply
#55
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Finland Hasbulla
#9 team in the world
2021-09-24 20:46
braindead thread
2021-09-24 20:49
the mechanically worst in t1 is your mom
2021-09-24 20:54
0/8
2021-09-24 20:59
0/8 apex
2021-09-24 21:01
karrigan is the worst
2021-09-24 22:00
No way, though I think his mechanics are hindered by him having to constantly micromanage the team. I think he would be fragging fairly hard if his style of IGL-in would change
2021-09-24 23:55
name checks out
2021-09-24 23:57
#82
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Italy real_bob
Rounds contributed 70.8% . (?) whats point of this thread
2021-09-24 23:59
#84
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Europe PiapA
0/8 aleskib bestest
2021-09-25 12:27
0/8
2021-09-25 12:28
#86
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Finland KieZuZ
All aleksi fault even if being topfrag. He forgot to add "win all duels" to his tactics?"
2021-09-25 13:06
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2-9 h2h against karrigan rn. Ik 1 game doesn't prove anything but this is hilarious. Your point falls apart on the same principle - sample size of one match lol
2021-09-25 22:53
aleskib no results found
2021-09-25 22:52
#89
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United States Azaqa
stanislaw. Oh wait hes not tier1 anymore because his mechanics are so bad KEKW
2021-09-25 22:53
#87 this is way too funny. People were clowning me just because aleksi top fragged against navi. When was the last time a player went 2-9 against karrigan?
2021-09-25 22:55
3 replies
did he really went 2-9 aganist karrigan?
2021-09-25 22:58
2 replies
Yep I am definitely sure. Stopped counting afterwards but it's more than 8 times he got killed by karrigan
2021-09-25 23:00
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omegalul
2021-09-25 23:01
#91
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Italy steven513
Yes overrated bot
2021-09-25 22:57
It’s not even that he’s mechanically bad, he’s along the best players when it comes to movement skills and jumping. It’s just that his aim is bad
2021-09-25 22:59
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I never once said aleksib is a bad player. He's better than karrigan (just a bad game today) but people were dismissing my point without even considering it. Recency bias at its finest
2021-09-25 23:03
4 replies
So it was a bait after all and we fell for it? Damn
2021-09-25 23:11
1 reply
Gotta keep my English sharp. The pandemic has locked other avenues of social interaction so I waste time here
2021-09-25 23:17
I never once said you said Aleksib is a bad player. You asked if he was mechanically worst, and no he is not. Aim is not the only mechanical factor. Movement is another one and on that field he is literally in top20 players. So there you go.
2021-09-25 23:30
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2021-09-25 23:35
0/8
2021-09-25 23:03
#101
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Sweden AFCHannes
I'd say karrigan
2021-09-25 23:04
name checks out
2021-09-25 23:08
he is body shot abuser anti 1v4 clutch abuser and think too much tactic abuser
2021-09-25 23:16
#112
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Sweden Akoulad
+1
2021-09-25 23:16
#117
OK | 
United States Bioax
when blamef have lower hs...
2021-09-25 23:35
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