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Is deko CHEATING ? THIS VIDEO PROVES?
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Brazil STREEEEEET 
You be the judge youtube.com/watch?v=V3-ifoBUdpc I'll cast my vote. Cheater.
2021-09-25 04:06
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didn't watch because flag
2021-09-25 04:08
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#32
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Brazil STREEEEEET
Genetic fallacy - Wikipedia The genetic fallacy is a fallacy of irrelevance that is based solely on someone's or something's history, origin, or source rather than its current meaning or context.
2021-09-25 04:55
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nt bra71l
2021-09-25 07:37
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#83
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Brazil Fan_do_Trk
vodka talking about soccer? xD
2021-09-25 12:45
12 replies
2021-09-25 13:13
5 replies
yeah 5 world cups
2021-09-25 13:32
4 replies
3 of them are stone age world cups
2021-09-25 15:33
3 replies
and?? pele best off all time
2021-09-25 18:36
2 replies
He is equivalent of Get_Right in CSGO so not goat
2021-09-25 18:56
1 reply
stop bait man
2021-09-25 18:58
#119
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Italy real_bob
:D:D:D your country is dying when it comes to s0cc3r
2021-09-25 13:34
5 replies
yeah 5 world cups xd
2021-09-25 13:35
2 replies
#122
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Italy real_bob
RIP bra71l
2021-09-25 13:37
1 reply
where are italy in the last world cup? KEKW
2021-09-25 18:37
It kinda is. Brazilian soccer sucks so much nowadays. At least we have a good team in volleyball
2021-09-25 14:28
#170
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Czech Republic _VetriX
And Russia was never alive
2021-09-25 18:50
Yeah just an ad hominem right?
2021-09-25 19:39
choro
2021-09-25 04:08
#4
nafany | 
Sweden hoey
didn't watch because flag
2021-09-25 04:09
1 reply
WICH FLAG BRAZILIA,
2021-09-25 19:23
#6
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United States dangalange
Checks flag and flair closes thread
2021-09-25 04:11
6 replies
+1 for flag -1 for flair
2021-09-25 06:12
5 replies
I'd rather do the other way around
2021-09-25 17:50
4 replies
no
2021-09-25 18:43
3 replies
You can't disagree with what I think, cause you can't change that. You can just have a different opinion
2021-09-25 20:33
2 replies
ok, I CAN disagree, but I cant change it.
2021-09-25 20:49
1 reply
Yes, that if correct
2021-09-25 20:58
Well these clips are fishy, but they also prove nothing On the other hand I hate this "pro players are not cheating" thinking so...
2021-09-25 04:13
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#29
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Brazil STREEEEEET
I agree. You can't ban a player based on these 2 clips but i think it has some utility to expose things that look weird. What's the alternative?
2021-09-25 04:51
Pro players 100% are indeed not cheating in Tier 1 and tier 2 LANs and "probably" the online competitions (because stuff like Coach Bug and those streamsnipings etc, you can never be sure) Beyond that, even cheat makers have alleged that they've sold cheats to semi pros or Tier 3-4 pros.
2021-09-25 06:00
17 replies
#68
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Other nacslul1
word.exe PepeLaugh
2021-09-25 08:08
#69
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Belgium EmVee
A K U M A
2021-09-25 08:17
Yeah KQLY only tried in some matchmaking
2021-09-25 12:41
3 replies
#88
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
To this day, it's unconfirmed KQLY cheated professionally and he got caught cheating in non-professional games. Emilio cheated in professional games, I'm unsure if sF^ ever did...
2021-09-25 12:51
2 replies
Then maybe Emilio is a better example, but I am sure KQLY wasnt dumb enough to cheat in a fucking matchmaking on his main account
2021-09-25 13:31
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#172
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Czech Republic _VetriX
That's how he got banned?
2021-09-25 18:52
#90
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
We can't really say "100%" but I agree with what you've written overall. The only case of that happening recently is Akuma and that verdict is contested to this day.
2021-09-25 12:52
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#95
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Europe Daudy
I mean akuma was obvious as hell but you cannot prove anything so you cant do anything. This is like if some criminal gets freed on technicallity or stuff like that everybody knows but because of how the system works you cant do anything. (not that i am shitting on the system but i am just pointing it out)
2021-09-25 13:10
1 reply
I get your point, that's the issue with cheating and why it must always be treated as a possibility.
2021-09-25 13:21
+1
2021-09-25 13:01
#94
Polin | 
Europe Daudy
When villiG got banned for cheating in Cluj qualifier he said most teams had somebody with cheats in that qualifier. liquipedia.net/counterstrike/DreamHack/2.. If you look through the teams you will see names like : Styko, Oskar, Rez, Alex (UK), Sunny, Niko (danish) , B0rup , Tizian , HS , Mir , Lekr0 , Cruc1al , s1mple , bodyy , SNappi , magisk So all of these palyers COULD have been cheating at 1 point as PRO players OR they COULD have played with cheaters...
2021-09-25 13:07
6 replies
That is if you opt to believe the words of a cheater. KQLY himself stated that he never once cheated in professional games but nobody believed him because he was a cheater; same principle applies to villiG.
2021-09-25 13:23
3 replies
Well VilliG didnt name anybody and I said they are hypothetical cheaters or played with cheaters thats why i put it in capital letters. Difference between villiG and kqly is Kqlys statement tries to "fix" his reputation. VilliG just was like "yeah i cheated because i set it up wrong but have your eye out there are other cheaters too" the tone of the message is very different
2021-09-25 14:23
they can say whatever u want but both villiG and KQLY were banned for cheating with the evidence beyond reasonable doubt.
2021-09-25 16:55
1 reply
His point wasnt about them being clean but about them being trustworthy
2021-09-25 17:03
There's a world that is true but as Jonty stated, your trust of words ends the day you've been caught cheating. You can disagree, but I strongly believe in this opinion.
2021-09-25 16:49
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2021-09-25 17:00
how much?
2021-09-25 04:15
2 replies
we dont have money for bets over here dude, but yeah he's just malding
2021-09-25 04:20
1 reply
#20
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Brazil bruxo!
kkkkkkkk say for yourself
2021-09-25 04:26
Doesnt seem like it based off watching most of his games. 2 undoubtedly fishy clips but both can be explained by chance, especially the first. Maybe at least, to be kept in mind
2021-09-25 04:16
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#12
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Estonia myrhh
btw even in cis there are rumors from close people that he or his team is playing w radar :(
2021-09-25 04:19
9 replies
There were also rumours about Ropz. Rumours usually start for a reason, just whether or not its someone salty or genuinely suspicious. For now, id like to think he doesnt cheat as i like watching 1Win.
2021-09-25 04:22
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#98
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Europe Daudy
Rumors about ropz were festered by salty pros getting wrecked in FPL. I dont think its really comparable to this.
2021-09-25 13:13
4 replies
Every pro has had fishy clips at some point. Just that these ones from Deko were caught on stream in a tournament match. Look on the forums and at least once a week there is a suspicious clip of a pro. Ropz was just the first one to come to my head
2021-09-25 15:41
3 replies
No i mean this guy says that CIS high tier community thinks he cheats or something like that. Which is not really comparable to Ropz where only people that he shat on in FPL were calling him cheater.
2021-09-25 15:52
2 replies
Didnt alot of pros think Ropz cheated? clips.twitch.tv/InnocentSuccessfulLyrebi.. JW and magisk seemed to think so in this clip and i know there are alot of other clips. Just dont remember exactly what was said.
2021-09-25 17:47
1 reply
Well thats my point. Pros that got fucke dby him in FPL is much different to "CIS scene" thinks he is cheating
2021-09-25 17:49
fake
2021-09-25 06:09
It's not entirely unbelievable to say betting companies rig tourney that they host
2021-09-25 15:39
dont spread bullshit
2021-09-25 19:15
#27
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Brazil STREEEEEET
I definitely agree with you., If i were in charge i'd investigate further but there's not enough proof from these clips for any action. However it does look very suspicious and it's not a bad thing to talk about it.
2021-09-25 04:49
#10
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Estonia myrhh
didn't watch because flag
2021-09-25 04:17
#11
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Brazil NotJuan
xiter
2021-09-25 04:17
#13
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Estonia myrhh
xiter
2021-09-25 04:19
not this again
2021-09-25 04:19
#15
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Sweden DonGatsby
Idk but he came out of nowhere and became a fucking god, would make sense
2021-09-25 04:20
6 replies
#26
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Brazil STREEEEEET
Yes., My reasoning here is that if i see this from a random FPL player i'd think he is cheating so i just apply the same criteria here. It's not clear to me i should have a different criteria for a pro player.
2021-09-25 04:45
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#28
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Sweden DonGatsby
I could probably find some fishy clips of fallen to, that must make him a cheater aswell
2021-09-25 04:49
4 replies
#41
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Brazil STREEEEEET
Those 2 clips doesn't make him a cheater. That he is cheating is my opinion based off those 2 clips. I could be wrong. I don't understand your logic here. You seem to think that i only think this dude is cheating because i'm BR? because 1WIN beat a BR team? I bet on 1WIN same as i bet on CPH flames and If you search my posts here you'll find me saying over and over that i believe Fallen needs to be replaced on Liquid for instance. So yes., find me a clip of Fallen that you believe it's suspicious and if i agree with you i'll let you know.
2021-09-25 05:20
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#42
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Sweden DonGatsby
Oh so you are just a salty bettor lmaaao xD
2021-09-25 05:44
2 replies
#70
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Belgium EmVee
Weak attempt at making it out of this discussion.
2021-09-25 08:20
1 reply
#179
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Czech Republic _VetriX
+1
2021-09-25 19:02
never heard about him , need more evidence to say he is cheat, only 2 clips? so no, and you only crying because he won against your favorite team
2021-09-25 04:21
1 reply
#24
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Brazil STREEEEEET
You have a point about more evidence needed but since i'm not responsible for suspending a player i'll go with my observation here. You're wrong about the rest. I don't really care.
2021-09-25 04:41
#19
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Japan Yuichiro
didn't watch because flag
2021-09-25 04:25
his cheat here
2021-09-25 04:28
omg what a XITER, I must be from brazil
2021-09-25 04:26
1 reply
#36
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Estonia myrhh
xd
2021-09-25 05:04
#25
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United States qoietsammy
2nd one smoke is fading so he's checking if the guy is hiding in edge of smoke
2021-09-25 04:44
5 replies
#202
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Brazil zzzzzzznt
by aiming exactly on the T head behind the wall, yeah sure
2021-09-25 19:30
4 replies
cry more br
2021-09-25 19:34
3 replies
#204
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Brazil zzzzzzznt
kkk NA, go play valorant kid
2021-09-25 19:37
2 replies
valorant is for pussies who claim cheats over 1 crosshair movement like you
2021-09-25 19:59
1 reply
#214
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Brazil zzzzzzznt
2021-09-25 20:19
nobody is cheating?
2021-09-25 04:52
crisp clean lock boys
2021-09-25 04:58
#48
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United States xcalibot
flag, flair checks out
2021-09-25 06:01
not again, stop shaming a whole nation ffs
2021-09-25 06:07
3 replies
+1
2021-09-25 06:10
why do they hate brazil?
2021-09-25 12:51
1 reply
who?
2021-09-25 18:54
deko: grinding 4k elo prem 3 years with insane stats random favela enjoyer: CHITER!1111
2021-09-25 06:10
6 replies
#84
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Brazil Fan_do_Trk
really?
2021-09-25 12:46
ok russian brain
2021-09-25 13:18
1 reply
>finnish incel
2021-09-25 17:03
4500_ELO_GOD > deko?
2021-09-25 14:26
2 replies
your mom
2021-09-25 17:02
1 reply
why
2021-09-25 17:08
No
2021-09-25 06:12
no
2021-09-25 06:20
Guess what, olof and dosia also had this kind of moments, are they cheaters?
2021-09-25 06:27
4 replies
#185
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Czech Republic _VetriX
Is Olof or Dosia a random Tier3 player?
2021-09-25 19:10
3 replies
That makes their clips even more blatant
2021-09-25 19:13
2 replies
#189
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Czech Republic _VetriX
took me a while to realize u r baiting tbh
2021-09-25 19:14
1 reply
It was like... half-baiting you know. If someone calls me stupid, then I pretend it's bait, but it's true olof and dosia had some sus clips tho
2021-09-25 19:16
#58
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United States Jeebur
Ill give him benefit of doubt since its only 2 clips but theyre def sus
2021-09-25 06:54
Weird, mens((
2021-09-25 07:13
#61
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Ukraine Sla1ter
he is 4000 elo player stfu brazil
2021-09-25 07:17
3 replies
#86
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Brazil Fan_do_Trk
how much majors in 4000elo?
2021-09-25 12:50
2 replies
How much? Can't even speak English bot...
2021-09-25 13:24
1 reply
how much know u country
2021-09-25 13:32
#65
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Japan Feruna
Flag check
2021-09-25 07:51
He played with Messi which should count as cheating.
2021-09-25 08:00
Wow I haven't seem these types of locks in quite some time, we used to see these all the time in tier 1 cs.
2021-09-25 08:27
Cs noobs shouldnt be aloud to judge pros
2021-09-25 09:00
1 reply
#102
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Denmark HypaboliK
+1
2021-09-25 13:15
no
2021-09-25 09:42
Who
2021-09-25 09:43
Sus
2021-09-25 12:41
Ok this is something not normal
2021-09-25 12:42
1WIN, AVE, EC Kyiv and Akuuma. Just some of the extremely skechy CIS teams recently
2021-09-25 12:51
10 replies
what do you mean lol. EC Kyiv and 1win were grinding since last year.
2021-09-25 13:12
9 replies
grinding in tier5 suddenly beating top30 teams lmfao
2021-09-25 13:20
8 replies
they won against spirit almost a year ago
2021-09-25 13:20
5 replies
let me guess in some scuffed tournament hosted by relog media or bet365??
2021-09-25 13:22
4 replies
i think it was blast qualifier. And it was nuke ended with something like 19-17
2021-09-25 13:23
2 replies
i just find it very suspecious a team can in one year go from struggling in esea main to this level.
2021-09-25 13:23
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#118
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Russia CYETA
they never were in esea main, they smurfed in esea open and got to esea advanced directly btw
2021-09-25 13:33
I remember that i lost money on that match.
2021-09-25 13:23
#134
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United States Bhu_Tang
What do you mean? 1Win have had some pretty consistent growth ever since signing deko and Polt in 2020, and they've just signed the right players when the opportunity arises, signing glowiing after he left trident and getting another young player in Raven, replacing their two worst performers in DavCost and Propleh.
2021-09-25 15:57
Yea that's what grind usually does dude.
2021-09-25 19:22
#91
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Typical witch-hunting video... Inconclusive and subject to opinion. I respect your opinion, friend.
2021-09-25 12:54
this guy would have a melt down watching cheating accusation clips of flusha and shox.
2021-09-25 12:57
#97
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Russia diphrel
LMAO silver post
2021-09-25 13:12
3 replies
silver post? very sus clip?
2021-09-25 13:19
2 replies
how is that sus
2021-09-25 16:54
There are players having 4 minutes videos of sus clips. These are 2 clips, where 1 can be just prefire on sandbox hold and 2nd can be anything from crosshair position if he crossed to vent, to conversation about where he could be.
2021-09-25 19:29
Idk
2021-09-25 13:14
xitado?
2021-09-25 13:13
flag
2021-09-25 13:35
But he even didnt hit model with crosshair
2021-09-25 13:40
didn't watch because flag
2021-09-25 14:26
worst bait. still here for your mind and its attention-craving.
2021-09-25 14:37
Lulululul
2021-09-25 14:42
no wtf its just prefire or some shit no
2021-09-25 16:50
flag
2021-09-25 16:51
flag and flair checks out but no, i don't think he's cheater, those 2 clips prove nothing
2021-09-25 16:52
stupid newbie, stop embarrassing our country
2021-09-25 16:54
#145
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Asia Augustooo
no
2021-09-25 16:57
nah
2021-09-25 16:59
cheater
2021-09-25 17:03
Ez aimlocks
2021-09-25 17:12
That isn't anything near what you could call evidence. LMAO
2021-09-25 17:48
#160
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Sweden cslipo
no csgo have anti-cheat (vac)
2021-09-25 18:05
#161
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Finland Eestu
The first one is a bit weird but I don't think even that one is because of cheats and there's nothing suspicious about the second one. He was most likely just holding a bit further away from the vent in case someone is hiding behind it and peeks him.
2021-09-25 18:10
1 reply
To me it looks like his aim drags and crispy locks on targets that are hidden.
2021-09-25 19:06
Well, it certainly doesn't look good.
2021-09-25 18:12
OMG this pathetic video again kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2021-09-25 18:46
1 reply
I'm sorry, i haven't seen this video before so to me and i think for some others ( rotating audience) these clips are new. I've seen the second one once and i thought it looked suspicious, but i've never seen the first one.
2021-09-25 19:08
resets crosshair for peek = cheating good to know
2021-09-25 18:47
1 reply
#175
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Sweden Akoulad
reseting crosshair involves shooting? there is no reason for a snap like that
2021-09-25 18:54
#169
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Brazil anolopa
are you silver? good crosshair placement = cheater BR brain LUL
2021-09-25 18:50
4 replies
To me it looks like his aim drags and crispy locks on targets that are hidden plus the shooting. It has nothing to do with crosshair placement.
2021-09-25 19:10
3 replies
#191
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Brazil anolopa
nah you could get clips like this from literally every pro player out there, it's just unlucky (or lucky?) mouse movements/crosshair placement. you can download the demos and see it for yourself.
2021-09-25 19:15
2 replies
Well, maybe you're right. I do not watch demos tho i watch a lot games but these things are hard to catch live. Honestly i don't think neither one of us can be sure about this.
2021-09-25 19:25
1 reply
#205
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Brazil anolopa
yep, it's very hard to catch this live but once you pay attention to a players' point of view you'll notice this happens a lot. fallen himself used get cheating accusations just like this one when he was not as famous.
2021-09-25 19:38
#171
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Italy ProudT
fishyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy hmm
2021-09-25 18:52
#173
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Sweden Akoulad
textbook cheating
2021-09-25 18:53
lol not even close to being definitive
2021-09-25 19:01
1 reply
I agree with you. It's not definitive but it's suspicious AF. If more clips emerge from him it's a good thing that we know about these ones too.
2021-09-25 19:13
usando cheat?
2021-09-25 19:09
let me guess, some brazilian dogs lost to this player?
2021-09-25 19:10
1 reply
Arguments and evidence stands on it's own. It doesn't matter who presents them i.e if you have your reasoning skills well calibrated.
2021-09-25 19:14
#186
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South Africa CRMN1
I don't generalize but bro you guys gotta chill out when it comes to accusations like these. Your fanbase is way too harsh in lack of proof and sometimes on those togs' videos I see the dumbest arguments ever in the comments. Let the guy be, that wasn't even a lock, it seems to me that he was preparing a prefire but he missed the strafe or the angle by a bit, it didn't even cross his body. I don't know what it is in the brazilian scene but you guys are all very easily inclined to accuse someone of cheating even if the play in question isn't even that shady at all.
2021-09-25 19:12
2 replies
I partially agree with you., we need to be careful and all but i think the clip is suspicious and we ought to shine a light on suspicious things and let people decide for themselves. I'll eat a humble pie tho and admit that i should've elaborated my opinion to reflect better what i think. If i had to vote, i'd vote he is cheating here. I could be wrong tho.
2021-09-25 19:21
1 reply
#207
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South Africa CRMN1
I understand what you're saying. I'm not talking specifically about you, but I see many people on the comments/twitter be so sure about what they're saying. I find it completely ok finding a clip suspicious (even though for me this one isn't that much because his crosshair never really locked onto his body) but I see many people on a daily basis talk so much shit on upcoming players whether it's in the BR scene or out and not realizing that can affect a career heavily, especially when people point out the stupidest things ever and aimlocks that don't even exist.
2021-09-25 19:39
toggler 100%
2021-09-25 19:16
#195
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Sweden mullgull
2021-09-25 19:16
#208
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United States Azaqa
First one: didnt even lock on his head mens... also most common position after he peeked Second one: Looks like moving his crosshair placement to hold someone being behind first vent? idk pretty strange one
2021-09-25 19:41
LOL 2021 and so many retards still believe theres no cheating in pro scene if you really think those clips are clean you probably also still believe in santaclaus
2021-09-25 19:42
#210
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Brazil k0utz
NOT GOING
2021-09-25 19:43
Yes. I also believe that leaf and xeppa were cheating, akuma were using some radar exploit and heroic (dogs) are not legit too. Cheating imo is fairly commonplace in the pro scene unfortunately
2021-09-25 20:01
Is the brazil scene become a detective agency the only time i see you guys posting something from gaullis he acuses someone of cheating
2021-09-25 20:05
idk about this guy but there is definitely cheating going on below the tier 1 team. You have a bunch of teams that float rank 20-40 but never qualify for any big event or lan.
2021-09-25 20:26
ye... checking if there is someone in the smoke after it fades is definitely fishy... lmao people still dont understand that there are millions of coincidences when pros aim at something while there is an enemy through the wall lol
2021-09-25 20:55
idk it kinda misses the head and he starts shotting way too early so dont think so could just be a wallbang attempt
2021-09-25 21:23
He heard the scope most likely and knew the angles, so prefired. It was 9-5 last round of the half, he had to go for the retake, and he tried to prefire him thru wood. Normal 2nd Clip, Since he was hiding, he thought maybe someone sneaked out first vent. And had preaim for that. Very basic clips. Idk if he is cheating or not but this clips are not any proof
2021-09-25 21:32
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