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Faceit Linux Soon ?
s1mple | 
India tkrsh 
Since almost all of the anti-cheat providers announced their support for Linux recently thanks to valve and proton can we expect FaceIt anti-cheat on Linux soon?
2021-09-25 14:51
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#1
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Liberia rationale
Gaming under Linux, LMAO. Tried CSGO - input lag was so huge, I shut it down in a few minutes. And FPS ... OMG it was crap.
2021-09-25 14:52
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#3
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Brazil itmdw
strange, ive never had none of these problems, but i play using the native version
2021-09-25 14:57
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#25
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Liberia rationale
I played native version as well. Under Windows I have something like 330fps on average, in Linux it's around 250. Anyways don't care about much FPS, the input lag killed it for me.
2021-09-25 15:11
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#53
KQLY | 
Other aidter
in my old pc I had more fps in Ubuntu than windows
2021-09-25 16:19
5 replies
+1 can confirm
2021-09-25 16:53
+1
2021-09-25 17:12
#93
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India Detrax
+1 in windows i was facing stutter lag in between a dual it was like I kill him with the first 5-6 shot or else I'm dead cuz of the lag but in linux the aim duals are so smooth I don't face any stutter lag :DD
2021-09-26 07:57
+1
2021-09-26 10:16
#98
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Austria Ostmark
+1
2021-09-26 10:34
#6
s1mple | 
India tkrsh
I get 20-30 more FPS on-base Ubuntu 20.04 you have to make sure your nvidia xconfig is good and you wont have any input lag Not sure about amd gpus but they are garbage anyways
2021-09-25 15:00
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#96
Polin | 
Europe Daudy
"Not sure about amd gpus but they are garbage anyways" deffinetly not true for windows
2021-09-26 10:32
6 replies
No CUDA = Not good
2021-09-26 12:06
5 replies
That doeasnt mean they are str8 up garbage. In most games they are slightly behind nvidia i mean its not ideal and there isnt much reason to buy them rn but they arent garbage...
2021-09-26 12:07
4 replies
Hmm I am sorry then
2021-09-26 12:08
3 replies
No need to be sorry but what would you rather take 1060 or new Radeon?
2021-09-26 12:09
2 replies
My workload requires CUDA so I cant work on Radeon, I use AMD CPUs tho they are godly
2021-09-26 12:12
1 reply
fair enough, i was mostly talking about gaming and they are not garbage there (not the best either)
2021-09-26 12:29
#7
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Indonesia segopecel
when was this?
2021-09-25 15:00
1 reply
#16
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Liberia rationale
Last time 3 months ago or so.
2021-09-25 15:06
#12
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Switzerland nierg
Maybe u forgot to install drivers or smth?
2021-09-25 15:02
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#17
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Liberia rationale
CSGO is known to run a lot worse under Linux.
2021-09-25 15:06
7 replies
no way. I tried several distros and each distro had more fps than windows.
2021-09-25 15:18
#42
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Switzerland nierg
First time I've heard of it.
2021-09-25 15:21
I personally saw linux cs:go running faster than windows and also saw fps comparisons on yt where linux won.
2021-09-25 15:26
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#97
Polin | 
Europe Daudy
+1
2021-09-26 10:32
#63
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Sweden Akoulad
"known"
2021-09-25 16:41
maybe u just forgot to put some vital code in cmd to run csgo better
2021-09-25 16:58
#14
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Czech Republic Poloolpp
dont bother with linux if you dont know how to setup anything
2021-09-25 15:03
2 replies
+1
2021-09-26 07:59
#99
Polin | 
Europe Daudy
+1
2021-09-26 10:36
#52
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Russia avvakum
i heard that some linux distrust disable hyperthreading otherwise yes, linux sux for gaming - i had to install a whole pile of crap just to play Quake Live in 100 fps 640 480
2021-09-25 16:16
3 replies
Could you direct me how to run QL on linux? I've recently switched to linux. I don't bother playing CSGO but I do want to play QL.
2021-09-25 16:59
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#80
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Russia avvakum
2021-09-25 17:02
1 reply
Thanks mens))
2021-09-25 17:03
Yeah, zero reason why anyone in the world would play games using linux. Duel boot has been out forever, just use windows. Have some dumb friend that uses linux, he got like one game working under proton in steam. Laggy as hell.
2021-09-25 16:47
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#87
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Liberia rationale
Exactly, under Windows it just works. Under Linux it's just a constant game whether it works or not, and if it works then how buggy it is in the end.
2021-09-25 17:23
U might have messed something up because on my station I generally get 30-40% more fps on linux.
2021-09-25 17:07
I tend to think that anti-cheating with Linux is harder due to openness of the operating system meaning you can control all aspects of the system feeding the anti-cheat with garbage? I might be wrong about it?
2021-09-25 14:55
21 replies
VAC doesnt run as sudo on linux do what you want with this info (veryez to cheat)
2021-09-25 14:58
1 reply
Oh I don't play any games on Linux. Just speculating about the ways a cheat might be harder to track on Linux than Windows NT? sudo is btw. a program that gives elevated privilege on some UNIXish systems, the real concept is getuid()==0 which means the process is root. And that's not the whole story of variables in Linux/UNIX/BSD.
2021-09-25 15:04
#8
s1mple | 
India tkrsh
True but many of the anti cheat providers figured shit out recently so I am hopeful FaceIt can figure it out too
2021-09-25 15:01
#13
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Brazil itmdw
system calls on linux are very different from the ones on windows api so companies has to spend money to develop an exclusive version for linux, most of the time it doesnt worth it
2021-09-25 15:03
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No really, I'm not aware how and what systemcalls relate to cheating/anti-cheating. I've never done cheats so the concept is a bit strange. If you'd ask me I'd say there's mmap() mostly that you dwell into the virtual memory space, but apart from modifiying the userprocess I'm not sure how it works out.
2021-09-25 15:09
#19
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Liberia rationale
You're perfectly correct. Under Linux cheating could be rampant. W11 for instance won't even run if you don't have secure boot mode + TPM 2.0. Linux doesn't give two shits about the integrity of the system.
2021-09-25 15:08
15 replies
Uh, I'm to sure if that's a bad thing to have the OS do what you want it to do? :)
2021-09-25 15:11
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#27
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Liberia rationale
Being insecure is not what you want from your OS.
2021-09-25 15:11
11 replies
Uh, this is a moot argument to state that Linux or Windows NT is more secure. The stuff is that you can do a lot more stuff (think GRSecurity) with Linux than what Windows allows for. Just because the system allows for binaries that are rogue to load, doesn't mean you should run them, common sense is requried....
2021-09-25 15:14
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Many of those issues are present or windows too. Also many solutions proposed are either virtually not used (like sandboxing, tell me how many uwp/windows store apps do you run?) or dont depend on support from OS (all those control flow mitigations depend on the compiler, and linux compilers already implement similar mechanisms). No point going further since i dont think this is the proper place for such a discussion.
2021-09-25 15:28
Integrity doesnt come from open or closed sourceness. You can lock down an linux system just like you can do that for a windows system. Nothing stops you from installing a bootloader that loads only signed kernels.
2021-09-25 15:16
7 replies
You're right. But the question is that is it easier by some metrics to write a cheat in Linux than it's to do that in Windows? I realize we're comparing apples to oranges...
2021-09-25 15:24
#49
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Liberia rationale
Tell me how will you sign initrd which often contains stupid shell code enough to run any malware.
2021-09-25 15:58
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You use a bootloader that ensures that kernel and initrd images are signed by yourself/a party that you trust?? Afaik, main linux distributions already sign their kernel images and grub otherwise they wouldnt run on secure boot enabled pcs. I'm not sure if they also validate initrd, but thats the beauty of open source - you can do it yourself if you need it.
2021-09-25 17:13
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#89
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Liberia rationale
Not a single Linux distro validates the initrd at the moment and if it's not validated, your local physical security is null and void. Lennart has written a long post about this recently: 0pointer.net/blog/authenticated-boot-and..
2021-09-25 17:26
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I think you're a bit far from the damned scope of running stuff with whatever like TPM man. The fact is that granted a damned local physical state with the servers does null and void any security you might have. The fucking integrity of initrd and kernel is of secondary value. There's TPM for Linux, and to tell you the truth the stuff is not realistic, what you say about integrity. Look, if you get to the scope of unprotected init ram disk and kernel there's no amount to what you can't do. No amount of TPM or security through obscurity is going to protect you. Your whole argument that security is null and void is a bit questionable. Just pull a KNOPPIX disk and boot from it. Lacking encryption of the damned file systems, there's nothing that you can't do. Or do you know a way to somehow prevent the leakage of fiiles to the attacker? Please argue inline since I'm not interested in reading some external site for a blog of some random yahoo.
2021-09-25 18:29
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#92
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Liberia rationale
Windows allows to have everything encrypted or signed. Enough to grant full local protection. Linux does not. Random yahoo is the creator, maintainer and main systemd developer, so PLEASE GTFO. Linux fanatics are brainless retards as always. /Thread.
2021-09-26 07:50
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Uh. The only fanatic here is not a Linux protagonist. Listen, use Linux/WIndows NT for whatever you like, I don't care. A discussion is not about being right and wrong, it's to expand knowledge. Funny you should refer to Lennart Poettering for shit. You're quoting out of context. I don't want to get a url to some stuff, but an explanation inline in your comment.
2021-09-26 16:27
still > 90% of servers run on Linux ?
2021-09-25 16:57
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#88
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Liberia rationale
Desktop and servers run completely different stacks of software except for basic stuff like the kernel its modules, and a number of services and libraries.
2021-09-25 17:24
I've a hard time not seeing this as a waste of time. You'll never be able to make an AC run perfectly on linux as far as I understand, and pretty sure most linux users know enough about computers to dual boot anyway
2021-09-25 15:02
#11
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Czech Republic Poloolpp
i hope so but i dont think it will happen, if it does im insta switching to linux
2021-09-25 15:02
#26
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Netherlands m1nimal
Only reason there's no AC on Linux is because there's not enough users to make it worth it. There's no technical reason
2021-09-25 15:11
1 reply
Easy Anti-cheat and Battle eye just announced they will work with proton because of the release of the steam deck.
2021-09-25 16:51
What ac providers announced support for linux? Anyway, anticheats like faceit/esea cant make use of proton anyway since they dont run in user mode.
2021-09-25 15:17
2 replies
Easy Anticheat and Battle-eye.
2021-09-25 16:53
1 reply
but this is irrelevant to csgo. faceit/esea anticheats only work with csgo and in the semipro/pro scene, linux is irrelevant. i dont see them spending money on research&development for basically no return of investment.
2021-09-25 17:23
#47
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Netherlands RC1XBET
Nope, cuz you can easily access/modify memory in Linux without another program like the anticheat being able to detect it. Especially if it runs in chroot or KVM
2021-09-25 15:57
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chroot(2) has nothing to do with the ability to write whatever in the Linux process space, it merely changes the / directory to another branch relative to the current root directory. KVM is a different business, where PCI-e PASSTHROUGH maintains stuff properly. There's a project called PaX that does the W^X semantics of memory, meaning you either write to the memory area OR you execute the memory area. Makes it hard to do injections to processes that way. The PaX stuff does the promise of write OR execute making it hard to do stuff that is delirious.
2021-09-25 18:09
Faceit will never go for it
2021-09-25 16:29
I don’t know if steam deck users are a target audience of faceit but maybe.
2021-09-25 16:41
faceit is incompetent to even make nvidia shadowplay to work and they claim its nvidias fault. AC for linux is not coming, they even said it multiple times on reddit, but idk, they lie there all the time...
2021-09-25 16:42
2 replies
Lmao
2021-09-25 16:51
about time tech savy hltv users created their own platform with its own anticheat Jokes aside, i really think that we can do better than faceit
2021-10-14 04:24
majority of games are terribly optimized for unix-like systems...no way im playing cs on a linux machine
2021-09-25 16:50
4 replies
try it more fps I can promise :)
2021-09-25 16:51
3 replies
i already did. i have a linux partition on my drive. felt terrible
2021-09-25 16:56
2 replies
Maybe Nvidia issues? 460.x works best and I am not lying I legit get 30-40 more fps
2021-09-25 16:58
1 reply
could be the drivers issue, maybe...never tried out
2021-09-25 17:16
#100
mir | 
Russia nevz26
faceit can run at mac os?
2021-09-26 10:37
2 replies
Mac Os cant run faceit
2021-09-26 12:06
1 reply
#109
mir | 
Russia nevz26
damn
2021-09-26 14:24
Ok mens
2021-09-26 12:30
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