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ZywOo | 
CIS madrat 
still garbage for silver 1 i guess. this update with upgraded 4 hits damage is absolutely useless until you are a silver 1 who only full body spray. If you have 2500 elo + and you have 50%+hs keep m4a4
2021-09-25 20:55
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looks like someone with m4a1s killed you many times
2021-09-25 20:56
22 replies
+1
2021-09-25 20:57
#16
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Bangladesh Santho
He is right tho (as I said earlier in other topics). M4A4 is still better in high elo where most kills are headshot+body/2nd headshot. Due to higher fire rate you will shoot those 2 shots faster than A1 + killing multiple people (for example rush B or rush any other position) is still better with A4 due to: higher fire rate +bigger ammo reserve It's simple math guys...You can calculate it by yourself. Grab a stoper and calculate time for spraying 3-4 guys with A4 and then A1. Also kill people with 2 shots (head+body) and calculate time
2021-09-25 21:01
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#23
FalleN | 
Brazil qrii
+1
2021-09-25 21:08
#29
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Sweden Sullijam
no it isnt bro, the a1 is the better weapon rn. close range you hit more hs but long distance almost all players (except scream, b1t, twistzz etc) dont hit hs. Example: long D2. you can now spray down someone from site to long corner, m4 you kinda cant.
2021-09-25 21:11
3 replies
you can still use aug for d2 long...for me the a1s is absolutely garbage on close range, idk why, but I cant seem to hit anything with it at closer ranges
2021-09-25 23:04
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#69
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Sweden Sullijam
lol just bad i guess, play pistol dm
2021-09-26 00:04
except that the aug costs 3300
2021-09-26 10:16
It's not simple maths at all. To properly calculate it, you need to weigh up the amount of times that you kill with headshot + hit versus the amount you kill with bodyshots, then you need to calculate how much the time you save by doing hs + hit on A4 even matters because most of the time it just doesn't matter. The only time it matters if when the terrorist kills you before the A1-s would shoot its second shot, that time window is so small that it would barely ever make a difference. Then you need to factor in the increased accuracy that A1 has, the easier spray, the smoke tracers and sound difference the silencer makes(can get you an extra kill in chaotic situations with messy comms), and the fact that Ai-s costs 200 bucks less. It's not at all as black and white as you are making it out to be, in fact I would argue that the A1-s vastly outperforms the A4 if you weight them up against each others.
2021-09-25 21:14
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#39
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North America 007DBR9
a4 still way better for spraydowns as well
2021-09-25 21:22
9 replies
How often do you see actual spraydowns in pro matches? 1-2 times a match, maybe. Against eco most of the time. Sure it's maybe better in those situations, but that's a very fringe situation, most of the time you get 1 kill or two and then get traded. I'm not even convinced that the A4 is better for spraydowns tbh, I think you more often shoot body when spraying down a rush and the 4 bullets might prove important
2021-09-25 21:24
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#44
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North America 007DBR9
even if you spray bodies you can actually see where you bullets go, you shoot them faster, and you have 5 more total
2021-09-25 21:25
7 replies
You shoot them faster but you need more to kill. And again, it barely ever happens without you getting traded so the 5 more bullets dont matter almost ever
2021-09-25 21:27
6 replies
but he is right to point out the fact that the m4 has more bullets which i think matters a lot actually
2021-09-25 22:59
5 replies
It is right that it has more bullets, I just disagree that it makes the gun better when it deals less damage with those bullets
2021-09-25 23:07
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i understand your pov but if you like to prespam through smokes or walls it is better to have more of them even if they do less damage!
2021-09-26 12:45
these 5 bullets more get compensated by the fact that you need 1 extra hit on every player you want to spray down, doesnt matter if eco or full buy.
2021-09-26 11:28
2 replies
i am not a big sprayer so i can't really judge if what you say real matters in live games but i understand the way you're thinking
2021-09-26 12:46
1 reply
if your kills consistent of body shots more often than not you should concider zis thought!
2021-09-26 14:42
thank you sir
2021-09-25 21:23
#30
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Sweden Sullijam
+1
2021-09-25 21:12
#31
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Czech Republic Poloolpp
+1
2021-09-25 21:12
+1 ahahah
2021-09-26 13:58
This has to be bait.
2021-09-25 20:56
#4
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Ukraine McSwell
Got rekted by m4a1s on recent match?
2021-09-25 20:56
most pros will play with 1s on the next tournament
2021-09-25 20:56
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#8
ZywOo | 
CIS madrat
never gonna happen
2021-09-25 20:57
1 reply
will happen in 4 days
2021-09-25 20:58
100% not going to happen
2021-09-25 20:59
#17
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Bangladesh Santho
Maybe but they will come back to A4 anyways. #16
2021-09-25 21:00
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but for some reason most of them are so confident in new m4a1s Nafany for example: "Does someone still play with m4a4? Because today all our opponents were using m4a1s" B1T said almost the same and also that 1s was insanely buffed. And so it means that most of the teams are practising with a new m4.
2021-09-25 21:10
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#28
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Bangladesh Santho
They will go back to M4A4 you will see, it's a fact. They're practising with new A1 now but they will realise it's still worse
2021-09-25 21:11
3 replies
I think it will depend on maps
2021-09-25 21:12
Stop embarrassing astralis flair.
2021-09-25 22:56
1 reply
+1
2021-09-26 14:49
Cry is free as usual
2021-09-25 20:57
#7
ZywOo | 
CIS madrat
lmfao. silvers with 40% hs, stop typing pls
2021-09-25 20:57
#9
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Italy I_like_csgo
Terrible bait
2021-09-25 20:57
#11
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Finland hermion
what?? m4a1s is better if you have good hs accuracy
2021-09-25 20:58
12 replies
LMAO. with m4a4 you kill enemy in 0.0001 sec with HS + body. M4a1s take like 1sec to kill HS+body
2021-09-25 20:59
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#15
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Finland hermion
it's literally an unnoticable difference + m4a1s is cheaper and more accurate
2021-09-25 21:00
2 replies
unnoticable because you have 200hrs in cs go and playing silver 1 rank?
2021-09-25 21:00
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#20
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Finland hermion
it's a 20ms difference mouthbreather
2021-09-25 21:03
i have 60%+ hs percentage but i literally can't use m4a1, maybe it's just get used to, but i really can't use it.
2021-09-25 21:20
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#40
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North America 007DBR9
it's super awkward for me to spray because it doesn't have tracers
2021-09-25 21:23
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2021-09-25 21:40
#45
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Finland hermion
Yeah I understand that, sometimes the feeling of the gun is just more important than the stats
2021-09-25 21:26
4 replies
I regret what i said, i just got used to it and this gun is incredible, so easy to get headshots, you don't even have to spray
2021-09-25 21:40
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#50
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Finland hermion
:D
2021-09-25 21:42
pathetic
2021-09-25 21:48
1 reply
whatever you think
2021-09-25 21:50
m4a1 is better in every aspect and game situation
2021-09-25 21:02
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#42
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North America 007DBR9
except spray transfer and ttk
2021-09-25 21:24
+1 it's still trash, you guys are delusional
2021-09-25 21:04
1 reply
yep
2021-09-25 21:04
Both are completely viable. Idk why people trolling.
2021-09-25 21:08
#26
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Europe robo1234
Only noobs use headshots. Real players kill with body shot to see the opponents suffer!
2021-09-25 21:10
1 reply
sigma players shoot opponents' toes through the wall to do 1dmg in 1 hit and kill in 100 shots
2021-09-26 10:39
Both M4s are OK, but Galil bestest
2021-09-25 21:11
yeah, it's better if you headshot but you have to actually hs alot because the extra 200 that it costs becomes expensive in 15 rounds of play. the a4 is probably noticeably better in deathmatch but in real 5v5 where the ct economy is very important I just see the m4a1s being better even in 2500+ elo in a lot of cases
2021-09-25 21:12
3 replies
i have 60-67% hs
2021-09-25 21:21
2 replies
if that's really true then you should use m4a4 just know that most people probably have 40-55% in 2500 elo
2021-09-25 22:46
1 reply
ye. i have high hs% and 100 ping so it's quite a big difference for me
2021-09-26 10:05
0/8
2021-09-25 21:12
nova 1 here, a1s works a lot better to me than a4. ofc that's just for me and my playstyle. If a4 is better for you then that's fine to me. i don't understand why people argue over this. even some pro players use the a1s and do just fine
2021-09-25 21:16
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#56
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Finland Nollegee
+1 I think this is good that people can choose which one they want to use now. And they both are hood weapons anyways.
2021-09-25 21:55
+1
2021-09-25 21:27
A4 always better
2021-09-25 21:45
#54
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Norway 2kayn
I mean it is good, stop crying that you die.
2021-09-25 21:51
thanks for your input, but nobody asked
2021-09-25 21:55
#57
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Israel GrandpaZ
Idiotic brainless post, probably a bait (and a shitty one). Failing to see how the 200$ less + body shot buff is gonna change the meta means you prob have 250 elo and not 2500. Almost everyone in the pro scene are going to use the a1s 90% of the time now. You really have to be brainless to miss that.
2021-09-25 21:55
#59
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Canada JC_123
wtf are you talking about mens m4a1 was/is better for ed shots
2021-09-25 22:47
#61
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United States Azaqa
what for headshot a1 was better even before... now its similar on body and a1 better on head
2021-09-25 22:58
Never had an issue using it at level 10.
2021-09-25 23:05
#65
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Europe artilele
cry is free
2021-09-25 23:06
A1s is a very good weapon right now, but I don't prefer it. The a4 has a much better feeling to it for me. You have to be good at both though. The a1s will become more popular, so m4 drops from teammates on CT side are going to be mostly a1s now.
2021-09-25 23:06
2 replies
yep. but for me famas is better than a1s tbh
2021-09-26 10:06
+1
2021-09-26 10:15
#68
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Russia Trueteller
get a lot more 3ks in one mag than usual with it thats for sure im a body spray abuser confirmed
2021-09-25 23:08
naah. Something changed. It kills much faster now. It is now same as AK. ( - one tap ) It is so ez that you just aim on chest + extremely small crosshair + hold mouse 1 to get free kills. Only way to kill them now is pushing with 5 tec-9's.
2021-09-26 10:12
+1 m4a4 for gods
2021-09-26 10:27
you get 90 in 4 with ak, with m4a1s you get 100 in 4 no matter what
2021-09-26 10:44
havent used m4a4 since 2016/17 I think. No need to use it when you have a laser gun
2021-09-26 14:44
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