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Aleksib is the problem
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Austria zuccthicc 
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2021-09-25 23:08
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#1
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Russia ToughGuy
+1 most overrated igl, 2 years without any trophy "top3 igl"
2021-09-25 23:09
44 replies
Havent had a single star player like top20 player in his team in 2yo. Allmost every ”trophy einning” team has superstar. Navi gambit etc has
2021-09-25 23:23
18 replies
Heroic dont have top player like device or simple..
2021-09-25 23:56
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#31
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Finland sant3rii
You're right, they have cheaters
2021-09-26 00:51
12 replies
cry is free
2021-09-26 00:53
5 replies
#36
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Finland sant3rii
Yes u can cry after heroic get banned
2021-09-26 00:56
2 replies
you can cry now and forever tho no need for me to cry when heroic can win events lol..
2021-09-26 01:28
1 reply
Hopefully we will soon know if they cheated or not
2021-09-26 10:34
He's right tho They had a superstar in Hunden. We can see what's happening with the team without him
2021-09-26 08:01
1 reply
Well they won epl without him.. Now all the players share the coach role
2021-09-26 09:04
hm?
2021-09-26 04:02
#46
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Brazil pasinato
+1
2021-09-26 05:15
+1
2021-09-26 06:54
lmao rekt him
2021-09-26 07:54
Lmaooo
2021-09-26 08:01
Mb aleksib isnt able to allow any1 from hes team to become superstar
2021-09-26 12:33
#77
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Europe Daudy
Stavn? Hello?
2021-09-26 10:48
2 replies
1.10 rating isnt a "top player", its just a very good player also, teses is just as good, and arguably cadian is as well
2021-09-26 12:29
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top20 player is lots of firepower like it or not
2021-09-26 12:48
Valde was #18 in 2018, NBK wasn't that bad in Vitality/G2 and he won tournaments before OG. Players can't enter top 20 if team constantly choking in group stage because of dumb igl decisions. In matter of fact, it's igl's job to get best of the players, if mantuu suck then move him into supportive awp role so flameZ and valde can have more freedom. Stop blaming players who are playing under average igl, blame the igl who can't set up these players right - Zeus won a fucking major with zero top 20 players, Niko in FaZe with washed boomers won couple tournaments, cadian didn't have any top 20 players yet his team succeeded, mouz with karrigan won couple tournaments with noname turk and young unproven frozen.
2021-09-26 07:17
Lmao navi fan talking. For how many years has navi been ruined by shit igls
2021-09-25 23:42
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#17
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Russia ToughGuy
only in 2017?
2021-09-25 23:42
15 replies
Pretty much all time zeus was on team with s1mple. Best player by far in the entire game and too much of a Narcissist to leave himself or even kick edward and wasting prime s1mple
2021-09-25 23:49
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#27
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United States hleev4
0/8 Zeus is a legendary igl wtf you on
2021-09-26 00:00
11 replies
+1 Zeus literally won a major with shitters lmao
2021-09-26 07:10
9 replies
So did C9 Fluke wins have happened, just because someone is a major winner it doesn't make them the best IGL around
2021-09-26 08:43
7 replies
I bet that winning major feels a lot better than winning nothing
2021-09-26 12:36
6 replies
How is that relevant? Zeus never was a good IGL, the run he went on with Gambit was a textbook fluke win.
2021-09-26 15:37
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From players viewpoint, they dont care about what fans think. Their job is to win 1st after that they can start thinking about pr. Zeus has won so much, it cant all just be luck. Mb zeus was good at building teamwork etc, clearly he did something right
2021-09-26 15:59
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Would you really be defending aleksiB as much as you defend Zeus now if AleksiB goes and wins this major and then becomes as irrelevant as Zeus was after the major?
2021-09-26 17:36
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zeus didint come irrelevant after major, he won tournaments with navi later + zeus won a lot of tournaments before that, unlike aleksib he has only won few
2021-09-26 18:52
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"a lot of" navi was never the defacto major winner caliber team after that major and you know it they never were the team to fear, the team to look forward to beating etc. they just had simple and simples heroics back then, which got them a few wins but never consistent results this team is way different the only leg zeus can stand on vs aleksib so far is that he's a major winner, and that alone doesnt make a good player
2021-09-26 20:47
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zeus won 6 more tournaments after major, so yea if you compare that to aleksib that is a lot, they didint only win those tournaments cuz s1mple was carrying they had good teamplay, and zeus was really good at building teams, and creating a space to star players to to shine. They were ranked #2 team while zeus was playing there. U implying that aleksib is any where near zeus is just absurd. There is also more to leading than tactics, aleksib have seemed lately just tilted, while zeus was always motivated to win, and a true leader
2021-09-26 21:02
Yeah nice fluke major you got there, they won nothing important before or after that. So much for being good
2021-09-26 14:08
Yeah I suggest you get a pair of eyes that actually work
2021-09-26 14:12
#80
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Sweden frozze90
s1mple is in his prime now, so dno wtf u talkin about wasting his prime
2021-09-26 10:50
1 reply
Seems like you missed that s1mple has been top1-2 3years in a row
2021-09-26 14:12
+1
2021-09-25 23:51
#41
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Finland Nahbro
s0mple 5 years still no major, overrated player..
2021-09-26 04:57
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#42
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Russia ToughGuy
there has been no majors for 2 years s1mple was robbed for possible major 3 times in those
2021-09-26 04:59
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#44
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Finland Nahbro
Robbed 😂
2021-09-26 05:09
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#51
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Russia ToughGuy
navi won biggest events for last 2 years so yes robbed for possible major wins
2021-09-26 06:49
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#55
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Finland Nahbro
Only cuz covid etc
2021-09-26 07:02
+1111111111111111111111111111111
2021-09-26 17:48
#2
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Norway 2kayn
Not only he
2021-09-25 23:09
mantuu is the problem imo.
2021-09-25 23:09
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#5
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Austria zuccthicc
0/8 wtf
2021-09-25 23:11
he is the best player on the team lol
2021-09-25 23:12
3 replies
Statistically yes and as an awper he should be the best player. But he just disappears when it matters. Crazy flicks but cant even hold a single corner sometimes. What og needs is a consistent awper imo.
2021-09-25 23:14
2 replies
acoR wants to have a chat
2021-09-25 23:52
#30
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Romania SanitySP
saying a 1.10+ awper is the problem is braindead
2021-09-26 00:51
Bruh, he is the 3rd best igl in the world Edit: Dear HLTV analysts, you cant rate an IGL based off winning or losing. You can rate them on a tactical basis but you will never know who is a good or a bad igl because you will probably never get to hear them call
2021-09-25 23:12
11 replies
atm imo boombl4, nafany, cadian are better than him at the moment, maybe apex but not sure about that.
2021-09-25 23:13
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nafany i can agree sort of, bot boombl4 and apex are carried by s1mple and zywoo respectively
2021-09-25 23:13
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Well yeah, i do think boombl4 is underrated as an IGL, we'll see on LAN if he can actually call well since b1ad3 cant help him
2021-09-25 23:19
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#83
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Czech Republic JameS_19
+1, Boombl4 is really good and underrated, but apEX? No
2021-09-26 11:05
they won cologne without blade
2021-09-26 12:30
#22
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Russia CYETA
you kind of contradicted yourself
2021-09-25 23:51
1 reply
maybe, but the point stands
2021-09-25 23:53
Why do you think that people shouldn't rate IGLs based of win or loss though?
2021-09-26 04:00
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All of them have completely different players avaible,all of them have different skill levels,different personalities,work with different playstyles etc.Like seriously do you think Boombl4 or apex would have anywhere near the success if they had the 4 players and coach of OG?Of course not Also it could very well be that Aleksib is not the best stylistic fit for those players in terms of the system and calling he uses.Maybe if he had players that had similar skill but responded to his style better,he could be successful.Does that make him a worse igl even though he did the same thing?
2021-09-26 10:50
At most he can be compared to nafany hes not better than gla1ve, karrigan, tabsen, boombl4 etc
2021-09-26 12:43
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boombl4 is trash, he is not even a real igl, he also has 0 iq
2021-09-26 13:14
#8
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Finland ksiBOB
nt he is 2nd best IGL rn
2021-09-25 23:12
2 replies
If you're baiting, why not go all the way and say he's the best IGL ever to touch this game!??
2021-09-26 08:03
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#84
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Finland ksiBOB
because gla1ve is the best IGL and overall player to touch this game. and im not baiting.
2021-09-26 11:10
+1 most overrated player of recent years
2021-09-25 23:21
2 replies
+999
2021-09-25 23:27
+111
2021-09-26 06:58
what problem? OG players are mechanically worse than most if not all teams in top10 the fact that make all their games so close is proof enough that he's good yeah he has had his time with OG but he has never had a good reliable mechanical player with him dont name valde or mantuu if those are "star" players then OG shouldnt be in top15
2021-09-25 23:38
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#18
JUGi | 
Finland Khroni
mantuuu is a 'star' player so long as all he has to do is hit bs flicks, otherwise hes an absolute bot lack of firepower really shows when its literally just Twistzz running around getting 3k's untraded and clutching because he's given 1v1's
2021-09-25 23:45
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twistzz is mechanically so far ahead of everyone in OG i dont find it surprising that even after that terrible first half he might topfrag against them this is not so much to praise twistzz as to just point out where OG really stand in terms of firepower idk why people EXPECT OG to be a top5 contender or anything close
2021-09-25 23:47
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#28
JUGi | 
Finland Khroni
I mean thing is with G2 looking like shit there is a real chance OG could have been top5/6 if they were actually consistent
2021-09-26 00:49
Firepower issue could be due to the communication aspect of international teams. Mantuu & valde are mechanically sharp individuals. Just aren't working well in int team
2021-09-25 23:49
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#29
JUGi | 
Finland Khroni
mantuuu is about as sharp as a piece of paper you only cut yourself if you're messing around with it like a retard, otherwise, its harmless guy can hit weird flicks but cant hit someone walking out dry perfectly into his already aimed crosshair
2021-09-26 00:50
I dont know what people are waffling OG have one of the best teams in top 20 and they roster is better than most of top 10 teams. Mantuu is star player Flamez is young star like back in the days sergej in Ence Problem is aleksib he cant handle this much talent
2021-09-26 10:28
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Lmfao allu defenders still blind Ever seen mantuu in important matches? Yeah me neither Flamez pretty good though but other teams just have better
2021-09-26 10:31
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Look NIP, Virtus.pro, Astralis, Faze and Heroic rosters On the paper og has better players
2021-09-26 12:04
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how? device rez ( rn ) yekindar jame twistzz broky ( sometimes ) teses refrezh stavn all are better than mantuu and valde though? unless you're counting valde wayyyy back in 2018 or something
2021-09-26 12:25
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But team have 5 players. OG has 5 solid players and also niko playing well bc he have shittest positions and roles.
2021-09-26 12:30
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but you need an x factor someone with consistent high skill ceiling and flair how else are you gonna win trophies with so many good teams around ? also niko has same rating as IGL and entry Aleksib not sure that's considered good but it could be good if they had a superstar awper or rifler who was worth setting up they dont
2021-09-26 12:46
Ok but i think SexyB top 1 igl
2021-09-26 00:53
its crazy how many excuses these idiots give him. He has been in charge of OG for 2 years now and done absolutely nothing. People call for big Booms head after one bad map
2021-09-26 00:53
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+1 it is kind of sad that Aleksi doesn't have a star player tho. I mean, look at apEX handling ZywOo and tell me Aleksi can't do a better job. But how they have managed to not win a single trophy isn't good on his resume either. And yeah, Boombl4 deserves more credit for how well Na'vi is doing rn.
2021-09-26 05:29
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Would have to disagree there. Ever seen aleksi solo entry the whole site defense? When was the last time he got a clip on the front page? (hltv.org/news/32333/video-apex-gets-four..) Apex might not be consistent but you can't deny his ability to completely take over games which aleksib clearly lacks
2021-09-26 10:21
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Did I ever say apEX is a bad individual player? Nope, he is and will always be one of the most iconic entries ever. And of course, apEX is a better player than Aleksi. Always has been. I was referring to their IGLing ability :)
2021-09-26 10:30
2021-09-26 00:54
+1 Sign Xizt
2021-09-26 05:08
3 replies
retired
2021-09-26 05:26
2 replies
Give him enough money and he'll come out of retirement
2021-09-26 07:18
1 reply
lmao
2021-09-26 08:00
#45
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Brazil cauby
Biskela is not the problem. He is a true god, a legend.
2021-09-26 05:13
#47
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Brazil pasinato
biskela isnt the problem OG really need a starplayer to be the best team
2021-09-26 05:16
#50
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Argentina cheapdeed
-niko +RUSH
2021-09-26 05:39
#54
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India rivervp
If anything, whichever team Aleksib is a part of, whether it was Ence or OG, you can clearly see him carrying the team with his IGLing, taking Ence to No. 2 and OG to No. 5 in the rankings with almost no star players in his team. Even the so called stars have only been Valde and Sergej (ones who were in HLTV Top 20) who peaked just for one year. Almost every OG competitor in the current HLTV Top 10 rankings has better star players, nothing more that Aleksib can do individually. And this is an international English speaking squads, such teams have historically always had their limitations (except for Faze and Mousports under Karrigan) And Aleksib is still hella young for a Tier 1 scene IGL.
2021-09-26 06:58
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#85
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Estonia Sn4pzhat
+11111
2021-09-26 11:14
+1
2021-09-26 11:27
But still havent won anything in 2 years, there is some guys who just arent mentaly ready to win. Yea its nice that he can build top 5 team but og as a organisation expects that they will be #1 U remember nbk last years in hes cs go career he was used to supporting teams to top 5 after that he got kicked that teams can go and win, mb aleksib will be like him.
2021-09-26 12:42
#109
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Finland Ekkkku
+1
2021-09-26 17:46
his pug tier strats are hard to watch.
2021-09-26 07:03
#57
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Austria Grundz
He makes a lot of smart calls, but yeah...pretty mediocre results with OG despite roster moves. They are getting better though. Don't buy the whole hype about him, but he's definitely a smart igl. Would do great with a star player, but all he has right now is an inconsistent roster.
2021-09-26 07:07
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#81
Polin | 
Europe Daudy
But the roster changes made still didnt fix the issue of 2 of the biggest stars in the team (valde and mantuu) being inconsistent. Mantuu is really good but he reminds me of fifflaren a little. first map misses EZ shots second map looks like a god. And valde is just not peaking enough in performance to carry... TBH OG doesnt have that much firepower... When they won d2 against navi it was because they were going by protocol every round and (mostly flamez) got entries... They didnt win because they have better firepower than navi (frankly that currently probably impossible for any team) they won because they had the start trained so well they were like machine... And as IGL you cant really do more than that...
2021-09-26 10:57
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+1 Exactly! too many threads made by emo kids when their team loses
2021-09-26 11:26
Ok
2021-09-26 07:27
LMAO how can you win with mantuu deadweight hahahaha 0iq post. Not a Aleksi fan. so stop it hater girls
2021-09-26 07:55
OG lose way too many situations where they have numerical superiority
2021-09-26 10:26
i don't watch og games until they play against teams i car about but from what i have seen: Mantuu is inconsistent. he can drop 35 bomb on 1st map and 2nd map disappear 0 impact valde is a rock anchor and carries multiple rounds each map on his own flamez insane entry most of the time he is scary aleksib good enough aim and calling but i see him getting caught up pants down a lot niko nice aim but somehow always bottom fragging kekw
2021-09-26 10:47
2 replies
Good points. This team has potential only when every one is doing well.
2021-09-26 10:48
#82
Polin | 
Europe Daudy
Valde is also inconsistent. It has gotten better after the roster moves but also OG started to play better so maybe its just in "hiding"
2021-09-26 10:59
Aleksib is good, but yesterday he was malding quite hard. Haven’t seen him like that ever.
2021-09-26 11:48
#89
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Korea jin67300
finally people know aleksib igling problem
2021-09-26 12:03
idk about his igl skills but he used to frag real good. he really went down recently in that department
2021-09-26 12:47
Kio is the problem
2021-09-26 21:07
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