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Difference between low and high FPS
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Finland Eestu 
Hello mens)) One thing that I've been thinking about is how big of a difference does high FPS (300+) actually make compared to average/low FPS? As someone who gets around 80-150 FPS depending on the map and the situation in competitive matches, I've been wondering how big is the difference between what I am used to compared to let's say an average of 300 or 400 FPS. I'd be interested in hearing what you guys have to say about this topic since I am sure there are some users here who have had a chance to play on both and can provide useful answers to this question. Thanks in advance. :)
2021-09-27 10:19
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I think high FPS higher than low FPS.
2021-09-27 10:20
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#2
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Finland Eestu
Very good observation my friend.
2021-09-27 10:21
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#50
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Poland Kresowy
I can also add that lower FPS seems to be lower than the higher number, what equals uneven number of fps between high and low fps
2021-09-27 11:54
+1
2021-10-01 19:32
don't know about fps but you definitely want to stay above the refresh-rate right? So I'm playing 144hz with about 200 fps - so no stuttering occurs
2021-09-27 10:21
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#5
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Finland Eestu
That would be ideal but even when it doesn't go above my refresh-rate, I rarely feel stutters (or if I do, then I am just so used to them that I don't notice them :D).
2021-09-27 10:23
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You're just used to a shitty setup so you dont realize it. I've played +4k hours on +300 fps setups and I couldn't touch this game with something that gives me 200 fps on average. It looks like shit and it also means that the drops are going to be at 80-100 fps in demanding situations.
2021-09-27 12:09
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#60
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Finland Eestu
Most likely. Been playing CS on this potato PC for around 5.4k hours so I assume I've gotten used to it. :D
2021-09-27 12:15
Only if it actually was like that.. CS is a broken game. 200 fps on 144hz isnt actually enough to make it real smooth. +300 fps is what you need.
2021-09-27 12:06
you want to stay above the tickrate
2021-09-27 12:12
It's more clear and fluid. /Close
2021-09-27 10:21
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#6
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Finland Eestu
"more clear and fluid" as in? Care to elaborate further? :D
2021-09-27 10:24
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Picture is more fluid
2021-09-27 11:52
#7
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Finland Jonttu2002
all that matters is that its stable. stable 150 fps if you have 144 hz monitor is the same as 300fps
2021-09-27 10:25
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#9
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Denmark V1tus
No, thats not true. Higher Fps gives an advantage since the monitor then can display a newer pixel at 300 fps, than at 150
2021-09-27 10:28
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#12
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Finland Eestu
Is the difference big in your opinion?
2021-09-27 10:36
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#13
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Denmark V1tus
Yes, it is quite large
2021-09-27 10:37
#53
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Finland Nahbro
Yes
2021-09-27 12:05
Sounds weird at first, but definitely yes. I would suggest trying it out yourself by capping your fps lower than usual (depending on your hz rate ofc).
2021-09-27 12:42
#11
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Finland Eestu
Obviously stable FPS is good, but does it actually feel the same compared to high FPS? I understand that people view these things differently and can have varying opinions and feelings about these things and it seems like #9 doesn't really agree with you.
2021-09-27 10:36
#18
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Russia CYETA
not true at all
2021-09-27 10:41
no
2021-09-27 10:52
No, just no.
2021-09-27 12:10
its SMOOTH like Niko hitting those headshots left and right
2021-09-27 10:27
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#14
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Finland Eestu
How smooth is it compared to average/low FPS though?
2021-09-27 10:37
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to me it felt alot laggy when i played on low fps like playin on a slideshow
2021-09-27 10:39
low fps are better Imagine 1 fps. You have more time to aim at the enemy until the next frame comes. With 60+ fps you have to aim 60+ frames per second
2021-09-27 10:36
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#15
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Finland Eestu
My man you are a genius.
2021-09-27 10:38
What I have heard is that you dont need much more fps than what is your monitor's refresh rate. If you have 64hz, you are good with ~100fps.
2021-09-27 10:38
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#19
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Russia CYETA
false
2021-09-27 10:41
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can you correct me or is it all wrong? I have 144hz and im good with 180 fps. also look comment below me, #20.
2021-09-27 10:45
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#26
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Finland Eestu
I guess it's just personal preference since everyone feels and sees things differently, so I assume there isn't anything wrong with it. But then again - I was basically asking the same thing so I really don't know. xD
2021-09-27 10:46
#28
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Russia CYETA
for starters you get MUCH less input lag. Low FPS on any refresh rate will cause bad Frame Latency, inconsistent frametime and microstutters. Here is a good short video that pretty much explains it all youtube.com/watch?v=hjWSRTYV8e0
2021-09-27 10:50
You wouldnt be good with that anymore once you had +300 fps for a while.. So are you gonna be happy with what you have or do you want better? Cause when you do have better, theres no coming back.
2021-09-27 12:14
#21
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Finland Eestu
The situation is a bit tricky since I have a 240hz monitor but my game only runs at 80-150 FPS in actual match situations. Got this monitor last April as a birthday gift and I was planning on buying PC parts as well but then the prices went insane and I haven't had a chance to buy any parts for an actually good PC that could run the game on high FPS.
2021-09-27 10:42
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does the smoothiness change when your fps jumps ? If it does, does it bother you?
2021-09-27 10:55
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#40
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Finland Eestu
Not really at least in my experience. It probably feels the same since it's constantly displaying less FPS than the monitor's refresh-rate.
2021-09-27 11:01
Just sell the monitor, buy 144 hz one ez
2021-09-27 11:53
Unlike refresh rate (unless you go for something weird with variable refresh rate) that is constant the frames produced for video are not. This creates a gap that is noticeable lag. I--I--I--I--I--I--I--I--I <- consider this your refresh rate, constant. I--II--II---II--I----IIII <- consider this your variable FPS with high/low and drop throughout your avg FPS. The higher FPS the less likely your monitor is to refresh with an "old" frame.
2021-09-27 10:50
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this problem doesnt really exist on 240hz in my experience, 120hz 2x frames was mandatory but 240 1-1.5x does the job no problem.
2021-10-01 19:47
nope
2021-09-27 10:54
i get 400 fps but limit it with fps_max 140 since my monitor is 120hz and i dont feel a difference between 400 and the limited number
2021-09-27 10:42
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#22
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Finland Eestu
Interesting, thanks for the answer! ^^
2021-09-27 10:43
you shouldn't limit
2021-09-27 10:54
Certainly theres a huge difference. Clearly you're not giving it enough time or are blind or something.
2021-09-27 12:17
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i arent sure about that
2021-09-27 12:17
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I am
2021-09-27 13:15
it depends on your monitor's refresh rate. if u have 300+ fps or 100 fps, u won't feel a difference with a 60hz monitor. on the other hand, if u have a 240hz monitor, the difference will be clearly visible in the frame drops.
2021-09-27 10:44
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#25
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Finland Eestu
Well as I already tried explaining the situation at #21, the situation definitely isn't optimal by any means. Was mostly just curious to hear how big the difference could possible be in this case. :)
2021-09-27 10:45
You can see obvious lag with 60hz and 100 FPS. FPS is measured as an average and might come in bursts as I visualised in #27. The more FPS drops towards (or lower) than screen hz the more likely your monitor is to have picked up an "old" frame even with FPS average 2x the monitor hz.
2021-09-27 10:55
Smoother gameplay.I used to play in a computer which used to give below 100 fps mostly and sucked balls around smoke and dropped to around 50-60fps.It ruins your gameplay. I have started playing in a decent laptop lately which gives around 150fps and no drop in fps due to smokes. It really elavates your gameplay,especially the smooth transition in whatever you do. No more praying for no smokes anymore. Let's just say with low fps it's as if you're slogging through the muddy road.In higher fps, your movement is fluid and clean.
2021-09-27 10:51
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#31
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Finland Eestu
Thanks for the comment and the comparison! ^^ I had pretty similar experiences before and after I swapped my CPU, motherboard and RAM and managed to get the average FPS from like 70-100 to 80-150. Now I'd like to know how big is the leap from that to 300+ FPS.
2021-09-27 10:53
Imagine if you had an actual high fps setup. 150 is still really low. I would definitely consider that unplayable.
2021-09-27 12:19
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Fair point.I actually thought about it, then just realized i have no desire to grind for the highest rank.Just want to have fun with friends no matter the result.
2021-09-27 13:31
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I think it's still more fun to play with good setup. I dont have any goals either, I just play because I like it. But atleast I dont have to get annoyed by lags and whatnot.
2021-09-27 13:58
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ah i get you.Nobody wants to play with lag my friend. Sometimes it takes more than a wish to get a good setup.In short,money :D
2021-09-29 14:26
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Yeah obviously it costs money but imo its easily worth it. Like I have spent hours upon hours playing csgo and I enjoy it, with a good setup. Now the other option is I go drinking a few times and spend the same money I did on my setup. Which gives me more joy in the long run? Well I dont think thats even a debate, but thats just me.. Nowadays literally like 700€ can buy you decent pc and 144hz monitor 2nd hand..
2021-09-29 18:41
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Friendo. In a third world country, it's still unattainable due to certain constraints. Appreciate the advises
2021-10-01 09:18
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What constraints..? Sounds weird why you wouldnt be able to buy stuff from other ppl.
2021-10-01 19:30
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700£ is decent amount of money. And you can't earn much as a student unlike first world countries.
2021-10-03 07:07
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Its also cheaper there. Probably like ~500€ would do.
2021-10-03 08:17
higher fps is always better it would make you a significantly better player in having 300fps vs 150. 80 is far too low. if I get a frame rate drop to any number that starts with 1, it is noticeable and I will hide in game until it reverts to normal. I would not even bother peeking or try getting peeked.
2021-09-27 10:56
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#41
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Finland Eestu
Thanks for answering! ^^ Apparently it seems like higher FPS does give a fairly big advantage compared to my current setup? I always assumed it was just going to be a small slight edge that might help a little bit in some situations but nothing more than that.
2021-09-27 11:04
Wouldn't say you will be significantly better player because of the good fps, but surely its more enjoyable and improves your gamestyle. I got global with 60hz and 50-60 low fps in 2016 :D
2021-09-27 12:22
#37
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Ukraine Najara
will be different time reaction for example: your time reaction with 60 fps will be ~0.4 sec (medium) your opponent reaction with 300 fps will be ~0.25 sec (medium)
2021-09-27 10:59
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#42
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Finland Eestu
So time to kill should go down as well with higher FPS? Makes sense.
2021-09-27 11:05
Higher fps is mostly better. 300fps on 60hz will always be smoother than 150 on the same screen. But 200fps on 144hz will ofc feel better than 500fps on 60hz. I hope this helps you.
2021-09-27 11:00
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#43
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Finland Eestu
It does, thanks!
2021-09-27 11:05
very good summary
2021-09-27 11:08
#39
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Finland r1CEsT1CK
I mean the higher your fps and the lower your ping the smoother your game will be. obviously
2021-09-27 11:01
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#44
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Finland Eestu
Obviously, I was mostly curious in hearing how big is the difference and what kind of an advantage can it give you. :) As someone who has been playing CS for over 5k hours with a rig that can at best produce 80-150 FPS in actual match situations I'd like to hear how much would I potentially benefit from an actually good PC. Edit: Yes - I am currently saving money for one. :D
2021-09-27 11:07
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It will be a HUGE difference. Like HUGE HUGE.
2021-09-27 12:21
Idk how much are you planning to save and what you are planning to buy, but in finland just buy a used PC or build one from used parts. Techbbs forum has great marketplace. 500-700€ should get you good enough pc. I dont even remember the last time I bought a new pc component and I've had A LOT of setups and never problems. You save half of your money atleast.
2021-09-27 12:28
#73
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Finland r1CEsT1CK
After lowering my settings i got +40-80fps soo.
2021-09-27 14:28
i played both on ~150 fps for like 3 years and now play on ~250-300 and the difference is absurd. it just feels way more fluid to play. definitely an improvement
2021-09-27 11:07
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#47
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Finland Eestu
Thanks for replying. ^^ Seems like I was really wrong about this topic then. I always assumed the difference between ~150 FPS compared to 300+ FPS would be really slight, but after reading comments in this thread it does seem like it's a fairly big benefit.
2021-09-27 11:08
var is important. On my old machine I maxed my fps to 120 (120hz monitor) and I got much lower var which felt much better than 300fps max looking into the ground. dont fap over max fps, fap over lowest fps in gunfights.
2021-09-27 12:02
im pretty sure any amount of frames under your monitor refresh rate will result in screen tearing edit: Also for some reason 300-400 fps feels smoother than say 150fps even if you play 60hz, idk why, but its true
2021-09-27 12:04
fps > tickrate = better
2021-09-27 12:13
eestu mens)))
2021-09-27 12:15
Faster software reply
2021-09-27 12:18
No difference Better connection>>>>better fps Fps doeant matter qhen you have feeling that you cant 1 tap enemy even if ypu aim right at the head
2021-09-29 14:29
higher fps results in lower input latency. youtube.com/watch?v=msOWcvoIC8M&t=420s
2021-10-01 19:32
If you play on 60hz it doesn't matter, if you play on 144hz it's a big difference, specially on peeking and tracking movement. You don't see big change when you move up, but if you change from 144hz to 60hz everyrhing turns clunky.
2021-10-01 19:35
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it does matter even on low hz how many fps you have
2021-10-03 20:19
Reaction time and micro adjustments You see alot more of the player and they are much smoother when they move so your tracking aim will improve on high fps/hz
2021-10-01 19:37
#83
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Greece RedWinter
Any potato pc chads playing at 60 fps here?
2021-10-01 19:37
2021-10-01 19:39
#86
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Albania i_love_(!)
Your question is not so clear. Fps feeling depends on your monitor refresh rate. If you play on 144hz. Any fps lower than it will make you feel the difference instantly. 80 fps vs 300 you feel the difference game smoother as butter. But csgo is trash game no matter how much fps you got there will be factors like ping, server location, SERVER OPTIMIZATION (this one is so important) your internet connection quality, your pc stability etc that will influence the feeling of a smooth game or not. Also hardware's can cause inputlag or wrong settings. Short answer best is to have 300+fps any higher fps will almost make not any difference at all. Nowdays a 5600x paired to any good gpu will make your game run 600-700 fps.
2021-10-01 19:55
this dude weird af cant he open 1x1 arena
2021-10-03 20:20
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