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brazil superteam?
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Latvia heywire 
I actually have no idea what the fuck a superteam would be in brazil right now, i just know they have many tier3 teams, aka godsent, mibr, pain, teamone, 00nation. What would a superteam look like (excluding fallen cuz he already on a tier 1 team).
2021-09-27 12:30
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#1
mertz | 
Denmark V1tus
Coldzera, Fer, Taco, Fallen and FNX
2021-09-27 12:31
8 replies
+11111
2021-09-27 12:47
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#25
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Turkey ge4zy
Maybe in 2017
2021-09-27 13:15
3 replies
no fnx no major bro
2021-09-27 16:17
2 replies
doesn`t matter if fnx is washed out, no fnx no major
2021-09-27 16:27
1 reply
exactly, just how it is, can't break the process
2021-09-27 16:40
#34
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Portugal Yelus
+1
2021-09-27 14:04
#41
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Finland r1CEsT1CK
so true
2021-09-27 14:31
and back to 2017
2021-09-30 02:19
#2
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Latvia heywire
i forgot about furia XD literally the best team in my opinion.
2021-09-27 12:31
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#7
FalleN | 
Portugal lift7
godsent are looking good tho, they have a very organized cs for a brazilian team, and they beat 2 times extra salt, including a dreamhack final, giving more time they could be a great team!
2021-09-27 12:35
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#9
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Latvia heywire
woah beating extra salt, is not very good anyways, specially when you lost maps to them. Extra salt is a struggling team.
2021-09-27 12:36
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even with their struggle, extra salt still a good team, top 25 rn, but they were top 15 once i am not saying that they can be top tier team but, with they organization in game they can be in some good events, top tier ones. I think they need experience since is the first time taco is igling, and the other are too young but still have incredible aim
2021-09-27 12:40
I would not even consider Godsent here, they are playing against amateurs in NA, anybody could do that.
2021-09-27 16:24
6 replies
#12 btw extra salt are top 25 and reached top 15 this year and are amateurs? aight
2021-09-27 16:26
5 replies
Man, go in and have a look at the tournaments they play in and look at the other teams. Look at the leagues they play in and then what kinds of teams they play against there.
2021-09-27 16:27
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i know, its true i am just saying, even when the played the first RMR this year, they looked organized, but doesnt mean they will be tier 1-2. Taco's project needs long time, he said himself and probably thats why they are not in europe yet fighting for those big events or even tier 3 events in europe are good. the players are young and they are evolving slowly
2021-09-27 16:30
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For a brazilian super team (right now) I would only look at Furias and 00Nations players.
2021-09-27 16:32
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+1 my comment wasnt about this thread sry :D
2021-09-27 16:34
Kascerato Yuuurih Dumal Hen1 Coldzera If not Cold i think B4rtin, Felps... just not Art.
2021-09-30 05:08
arent extra salt complete nonamers for christ's sake
2021-09-27 17:00
1 reply
still reach top 15, including beating big clan, a top tier team from europe
2021-09-27 17:03
#3
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Hard to say with the current Brazilian talent. The original LG/SK lineup were probably a superteam that time but other than that, other Brazilian teams have had mixed success. FURIA singlehandedly saved BR CS but then they vanished due to inconsistencies.
2021-09-27 12:33
11 replies
-HEN1 killed Furia basically and he is killing his own career atm
2021-09-27 16:10
10 replies
+1 Furia needs a good main awper to achive tier 1 again, and Hen1 was the perfect player to this line. Unfortunately he chose play with his brother
2021-09-27 16:14
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what he did was ridiculous, honestly he abandoned the best br team for a fucking gamble, the salarie in furia couldnt be great but at least they were winning TO's
2021-09-27 16:17
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I wouldnt say ridiculous, it's just that he chose an emotional standpoint and wanted to be with his brother. Ruined Furia but what happens, happens. Maybe he'll come back to furia one day.
2021-09-30 03:34
#47
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
I will agree to that. In 2020 with HEN1 on the team, 3 out of 5 FURIA players (including HEN1) were ranked within the Top 20 players if that year.
2021-09-27 16:17
6 replies
yeah and hes not that young anymore( hes 26yo), Furia players arent that young as well Art is 25 already etc so he should have stayed w them while the team was working, i dislike him so much rn even tho i never was a fan of Furia
2021-09-27 16:22
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#63
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
I can't fault him for wanting to play with his twin brother, though. Yes, he played a part in the deterioration of FURIA but Junior also negatively impacted the team. KSCERATO currently carries FURIA and Guerri was really impressive.
2021-09-27 16:32
Why dislike him? He just wanted to play with his brother, It's about personal happiness and he obviously values that over success in CS. I'm sure between the two of them they would rather have mild success with each other than one of them hitting it big. That's pretty worth respecting their kinship.
2021-09-27 16:40
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When it comes to a professional career, if he wants to be good again he has to let go of those stupid feelings.
2021-09-27 16:50
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Well clearly he doesn't feel it's worth it, meaning they're not stupid feelings if he is that loyal.
2021-09-27 16:54
prolly but its not everyday that you get in a good team, especially these days, but it is his life after all, i like lucas, as a streamer hes very funny and hen1 as well but br cs suck now days
2021-09-27 17:35
Just buy Navi.
2021-09-27 12:34
#5
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Brazil 1930
i don't consider teamliquid tier 1, i think tier 1 is basicly eu
2021-09-27 12:34
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#6
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Latvia heywire
just say if u want fallen on the superteam.
2021-09-27 12:35
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#8
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Brazil 1930
no. the superteam would be furia with hen1 over again
2021-09-27 12:36
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#10
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Russia CYETA
why not furia with saffee? hes much better than hen1
2021-09-27 12:38
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#11
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Brazil 1930
idk. i mean you're right but still feels like how hen1 did in the past proves him a safer choice
2021-09-27 12:40
Hen1 in 2020 was 16th best player or smt and Saffee has no exp in t1
2021-09-27 14:02
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#40
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Russia CYETA
top 20 in 2020 was bullshit, they put EG, 100t and furia players just for farming tier 2 NA and a lot has changed since 2020
2021-09-27 14:21
+1
2021-09-30 02:32
B4tin, Dumau, Kscerato, Yurihh e Hen1 actually
2021-09-27 12:40
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#15
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Latvia heywire
actually i thought the team would look like this, dumau and kscerato on the same team was at least my thought.
2021-09-27 12:42
#16
saffee | 
Brazil uezu
Igl?
2021-09-27 12:43
2 replies
yurihh ou Hen1
2021-09-27 12:46
1 reply
#24
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Latvia heywire
doubt..
2021-09-27 13:13
#22
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Brazil Fan_do_Trk
man..................
2021-09-27 12:48
Coldzera, Taco, Fallen,Kscerato, Yuurih Zews as coach
2021-09-27 12:41
4 replies
Nice one.
2021-09-27 12:45
+11111
2021-09-27 12:48
-taco +leo_drk
2021-09-27 17:07
- Taco + hen1 or saffee
2021-09-30 02:37
1. FalleN - Cold - Latto - yuurih - Kscerato 2. Steel - Saffee - Felps - Dumau - Chelo 3. kNg - b4rtiN - Zevy - trk - Leo
2021-09-27 12:45
FalleN, Cold, Taco, yuurih , kascerato
2021-09-27 12:49
dumau HEN1 arT KSCERATO yuurih
2021-09-27 13:15
1 reply
+1
2021-09-27 16:43
Just remove Vini and drop from fúria, add fallen and cold. You have the awper and IGL in fallen, entry in art, lurker in cold, second entry in yuurih and kscerato can be the jack of all trades
2021-09-27 13:20
1- felps, kscerato, yuurih, hen1 and steel 2- Fallen, Coldzera, Lucas1, v$m and trk 3- Saafe, leo_drk, kNg, Vini and Fer 4- Taco, Zevy, Yel, Chelo and Boltz
2021-09-27 13:33
Fallen Coldzera Kscerato is all i can think of for a real superteam rn
2021-09-27 13:29
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#32
try | 
Brazil ROMAG
yuriih
2021-09-27 13:54
furia -vini +coldzera -drop +fallen
2021-09-27 13:37
#31
try | 
Brazil ROMAG
there are some options, but itºs not easy. first, the BR dream team need to have Kscerato and Yuurih. second, I think that leo drk is a pretty good option, he do all the dirty job for 00nation and he deliver good results third, probably art and fallen are the best IGLºs in the scene right know, I would keep art because of the fire power. now the thing become tought, because he have decide if art will play as a rifler or awper. If he play as a rifler, the 2 best options are HEN1 and saffee. If he play as a awper I would chose cold or dumau TL/DR saffe/hen1 (awper) yuurih (trader / rotator) kscerato (lurker / anchor) leo_drk (entry and support/anchor) art (igl/rotator) or art (awper igl) yuurih (trader / rotator) kscerato (lurker / anchor) leo_drk (entry /anchor) cold/dumau (support/rotator)
2021-09-27 13:56
#35
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Brazil skazzi
According to current results, this would be the superteam, but in reality it doesn't fit so easily. saffee (highest KD, rating and best AWP) dumau (second best KD and rating) FalleN (best IGL) yuurih (potentially the best Brazilian player today) felps or KSCERATO or b4rtiN (I honestly don't know who to choose)
2021-09-27 14:05
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#38
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Brazil _pedrin
Rn Kscerato is by far the best brazilian player, a brazilian super team have to have him in the line up
2021-09-27 14:19
#37
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Brazil Zrz0
I think you can make slight changes to get lots of teams way better GODSENT -TACO +trk FURIA -arT +saffee But, if I were to make a Superteam I would go FalleN Yuriihh KSCERATO dumau saffee / HEN1 depending on how the other guys want to play,
2021-09-27 14:15
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#39
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Brazil _pedrin
You already have a awp in Fallen, the best option is pick up a support player as Vini or Taco
2021-09-27 14:20
#42
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Latvia heywire
is trk igl?
2021-09-27 16:06
3 replies
#54
s1mple | 
Brazil vgzz
no, this guy is crazzy ofc
2021-09-27 16:26
2 replies
#61
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Latvia heywire
taco is igl u know that right.
2021-09-27 16:30
1 reply
#65
s1mple | 
Brazil vgzz
yeah, taco is but trk doesnt
2021-09-27 16:33
felps, yuriih, cold, fallen, taco
2021-09-27 16:12
art (igl) kscerato yuurih kng (awp/2nd caller) felps
2021-09-27 16:16
Art - IGL Yuurih - Rifler Kscerato - Star Saffee - Awper Cold - Support or Lurk
2021-09-27 16:19
dumau kscerato yuurih saffee coldzera excluding fallen who is already in TL
2021-09-27 16:22
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#62
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Latvia heywire
actually i like this team the most out of anyone., just one question who entryfragger and igl?
2021-09-27 16:31
3 replies
coldzera can be IGL (he is not se same star player like 2016/17), dumau or yuurih entry
2021-09-30 01:06
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#92
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Latvia heywire
hmm
2021-09-30 02:09
1 reply
Replace coldzera with arT and then u have entryfragger and igl
2021-09-30 03:27
alanzinho jaja Marcelinho Aurelio Jefferson
2021-09-27 16:26
Fallen Coldzera yuurih kscerato leo_drk
2021-09-27 16:36
#70
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Belgium TomazMPP
I see so much potential on dumau (from godsent). I dont know about honda and drop tho, they just dont fit on furia. prime dream team for sure it is FALLEN FER TACO FNX COLDZERA Right now i would say COLD FALLEN YURIHH, KSCERATO and maybe give a chance to DUMAU?
2021-09-27 16:40
3 replies
Art > Fallen Fallen's leading style is outdated and it shows.
2021-09-27 16:46
2 replies
arT kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2021-09-27 16:55
1 reply
arT is the most agressive player in the history of cs by far, he igls and he's consistently >1.00 rating 2.0
2021-09-30 03:26
I think lot of things will change after the end of online era
2021-09-27 16:44
#74
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Denmark thekr4k3n
I would say saffee, dumau, yurih, kscerato and felps
2021-09-27 16:48
1 reply
#118
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Brazil wololo10
+1
2021-09-30 03:56
Brazil super team -fallen/art -dumau -felps -b4rtin -latto
2021-09-27 16:51
1 reply
good team but no kscerato and yuurih no super team
2021-09-27 16:57
being real to the roles in the game i think Brasil can have 2 SOLID tier 1 teams, one build around Furia core and other around Fallen, Cold 1st - Art, Yuurih, Kscerato, Vini and Saffee 2nd- Fallen, Cold, Dumau, Leo Drk, Chelo (would love to put Malbs here on this team but hes from Guatemala) And aside with those two t1 teams can build a LOT of tier 2 teams H0NDA,TACO, HEN1, LUCAS1, Boltz Bartin, Latto, Biguzera, PKL (IGL)/Zevy(AWP) KNG, Felps, VSM, TRK, Steel
2021-09-27 16:59
#81
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United States Azaqa
Only actual good talent i know is dumau, b4rtin, saffee. But 2 awps isnt very helpful. Real brazil superteam isnt possible atm imo not enough talent.
2021-09-27 16:59
kscerato yuurih saffee coldzera/trk steelga
2021-09-27 17:12
They tried it so many times and it all fell flat
2021-09-27 17:11
Yuurih Kscerato Saffee Dumau Felps
2021-09-27 17:14
#89
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Brazil de_viLL
felps, fallen, yuurih, kscerato and dumau
2021-09-27 17:38
fnx fnx fnx fnx fnx
2021-09-27 17:52
kscerato, yuurih, felps, hen1 and art
2021-09-30 02:10
Kscerato, Yuriih, Felps, Saffee and Fallen
2021-09-30 02:11
#95
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Brazil Yamat01
FURIA with a good awper: try or saffee. If they dont get good results, then -VINI +felps or +dumau
2021-09-30 02:15
Kng (IGL) Hen1 (Awp) Yuurih (Rifle) Kscerato (Lurk) Boltz (Entry) Cogu (coach)
2021-09-30 02:16
4 replies
cogu is a very fun dude and he keeps the energy up alot but tbh he isn't a great coach, unless you get an analyst to help him IMO zakk, zews or righi would've been better options, maybe even BIT who hasn't been looking so well ingame
2021-09-30 02:30
1 reply
Fair enough
2021-09-30 06:01
#122
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Brazil AWFenrir
Even Taco can do better than KNG Fallen and Art >>>> all other BR IGLs.
2021-09-30 04:26
1 reply
The post says excluding FalleN and arT was good but he's fallen off a cliff and isn't no where near his old level. Taco maybe, but I'd rather take my chance on Kng calling with Boltz being like a second voice because of his previous time playing with FalleN. Either option is decent.
2021-09-30 06:04
FURIA + Hen1 or saffee
2021-09-30 02:20
including fallen: Fallen Dumau KSCERATO boltz/yuurih and leo_drk coach: zews analyst: righi excluding fallen: steel/kng/taco HEN1/saffee KSCERATO boltz/yuurih and leo_drk coach: zews analyst: righi - leo is by far the best dedicated entry fragger in brazil - both HEN1 and saffee are very good snipers and I just legit couldn't choose - also a hard choice choosing which would be the IGL considering that the only really good igl is steelega but I'm not so sure about him. kng and taco are the most valuable options if you exclude steel - IMO boltz can totally get back to his 2017 form if he goes to a better team but it is obviously very understadable that people would rather pick yuurih than him - coach: zews because that's the most obvious answer and righi as analyst because he's worked on teamone really well and also his content shows that he knows alot about cs. he's also been helping smaller BR teams after he left teamone and they've also showed big improvement only player that cant be left out of this list is KSCERATO but replacing leo or any of the other guys would make sense tbh
2021-09-30 02:29
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#103
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Brazil _pedrin
Leo drk is not by far the best entry, imo art is better bcs he already proved himself against top teams. You just cant exclude kscerato from a brazilian dream team, he is a top 10~15 rifler rn. Boltz isnt the same of 2017, nowadays yuurih>>>>boltz
2021-09-30 02:47
2 replies
arT isn't necessarily an "entry fragger", yes he plays agressively but that only works because of how FURIA plays around him, and I doubt this team would make sense with arT in leo's place
2021-09-30 02:55
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#106
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Brazil _pedrin
Art isnt a entry nowadays, but during hen1 times he was. And I dont know, with a proper igl i think art could be a beast bcs he has a very good aim and gamesense. But ofc leo drk and art are the best brazilian entrys, but i like very much art style, he is capable of found spaces in a map out of nowhere
2021-09-30 03:17
#105
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Brazil AWFenrir
Dumau/B4rtin, Saffee, Kscerato, Yuurih and Art.
2021-09-30 03:09
Old Furia
2021-09-30 03:31
kscerato, hen1 (better than safe dont even fuckin argue) , vsm, kng, coldzera.
2021-09-30 03:41
art yuurih kscerato saffee felps
2021-09-30 03:42
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#113
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Brazil bruxo!
art???? KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
2021-09-30 03:42
1 reply
best igl and best entry
2021-09-30 05:50
Furia + awper(Hen1/saffee)
2021-09-30 03:43
#115
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Brazil Flugel_
me me me me me
2021-09-30 03:47
These three are my core: arT KSCERATO yuurih Now thinking about the remaining two, probably a passive awper (don't know who, can be even Fallen) and i think Leo_DRK can fit good on the last spot.
2021-09-30 03:53
2 replies
Probably an obvious option of zevy, saffe, or try
2021-09-30 04:17
1 reply
Fallen can be a good option because of experience
2021-09-30 04:19
#117
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Brazil wololo10
Yurih Kscerato felps dumau saffe/zevy
2021-09-30 03:56
2 replies
#119
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Germany frankturv
who would be igl?
2021-09-30 04:09
1 reply
#132
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Brazil wololo10
I think felps can IGL but maybe -saffe/zevy +coldzera as IGL
2021-09-30 18:54
furia but with a good 5th main awper (saffee) jk.... guerri is better
2021-09-30 04:27
#124
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Brazil mrk15
It's easy to choose four high skilled players - Kscerato, Yuurih, Coldzera and Hen1. They all have numbers that speak for themselves. YuRato is the perfect entry+trader (interchangeably) duo and coldzera would be their perfect support+luker. No IGL for him though - the less cold has to speak the best he plays and the least he tilts the rest of the team with complaints. Hen1 is not 100% of people's first pick for these kinds of brazilian dream teams only because we have FalleN who's seen as the perfect wildcard to fit both AWP and IGL functions. However, I beg to differ in this case since sinergy is essential and Hen1 +Furia had it in such a way I had never seen in BR roster changes since TACO + cold joined (not simultaneously) FalleN + fer during LG/SK times. Hen1 is also the link between the Furia duo and coldzera where previous sparks could otherwise hinder their relationship outside the game. The 5th is the problem. Ideally he'd be a main IGL + anchor player + sinergize with the rest. Some names come up in my mind: Fallen, arT, TACO, VINI, Lucas1 and felps. But none of them fit perfectly. Both FalleN and Taco are options for IGL capabilities + experience - Fallen's by far the best as IGL but his playstyle clashes with Hen1. Fallen giving away awp function takes too much away from his skillset. Also, not having every player comfortable makes the whole team performance and motivation take a huge hit in the medium to short term, and a star-filled team rarely ever has the mentality, patience, time or money to wait through bad results until everyone feels comfortable. It's mostly a hit or miss. Taco isn't a proven IGL yet but has recent experience in Godsent and has been a main anchor since 2015, completing every role needed in the team. His lack of raw aim is by far outweighted by the group stability he brings by being comfortable in the least rewarding roles statwise. He's mentally strong and can make coldzera shine even more. The same is true for VINI (selfless anchor, strong mentality, makes stars like yuurih and kscerato stronger) if you disregard the fact that he has never IGLd before and going for him instead of TACO would likely make coldzera's short-mid term performance take a hit. Also, is the best IGL available in the market really needed when you have 4 experienced players in the tier1 competition? CT side is a non issue if you have two cohesive duos (tacold + yurato) in each bombsite (for most maps). T-side calling I think mostly depends on the playstyle they'll adopt as a team but making it flexible just as Liquid does I believe will be best for them. If someone has to have the final word though, I guess it's best in the hands of the more selfless player, in which case it definitely is either Taco or VINI, but the latter is completely inexperienced as an IGL as far as we know - and hasn't had his decision making capabilities tested in ultra high pressure situations like a LAN major final match point 1v2 clutch. Now, considering Hen1 mentally needs his brother Lucas1 presence to keep performing at his highest, going for him as an IGL + anchor instead of TACO isn't something to discard fully either (he's trying at kng's abscence atm). But I'd prefer him benched (or coaching) just to support Hen1 and maybe in the future integrate a Valve-approved six-man roster, but as a 5th core player he'd probably be bottom fragging just as much as Taco and Idk if his IGL, mental and anchoring capabilities would be enough to compensate for his lack of raw aim (also one can argue he's not known for his intelligence nor his selflessness either). Finally, we should still have the likes of arT and felps to be considered as a 5th option were it not for their playstyle and coldzera's opinion about them. In hindsight, those are only viable options if one is willing to remove coldzera from this roster, if else, there would be too many internal disagreements resulting in disbands sooner or later. That is not the point here and would open many other possible iterations. TL;DR Best BR rosters for high success chances in the sort term: 1) kscerato, yuurih, coldzera, hen1, taco 2) kscerato, yuurih, coldzera, hen1, vini 3) kscerato, yuurih, coldzera, hen1(awp), fallen(igl)
2021-09-30 04:42
That’s easy! Fallen (awper + IGL) Coldzera (lurker) V$M Leo_DRK Yurih. That’s is the actually dream team. Perhaps it 6free unwound out kcerato
2021-09-30 05:14
AWP: Saffee Lurker: Kscerato Assault: Yuurih Assault: Dumau Support and IGL: Vini
2021-09-30 05:23
No fnx no major just saying
2021-09-30 06:15
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