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is hobbit an all time great?
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Russia hobbit_top1_2022 
is hobbit an all time great? and if he wins another major, where does it put him all time? also i think he will be the oldest top5 ranked player ever this year, correct me if im wrong.
2021-10-13 12:06
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Norway Balta69
top 5?
2021-10-13 12:08
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#4
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France Anthoine
100% lol check mvps, events won and his stats he will be at least 4th imo
2021-10-13 12:10
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#8
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Norway Balta69
i think he would be max top 6 1. s1mple 2. xi wuu NiKo/sh1ro/Ax1le will be fighting for 3-5
2021-10-13 12:20
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#10
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Denmark pebblez
he may not be better than NiKo right now but overall for the year he has been better and he should be higher than him.
2021-10-13 12:20
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true!
2021-10-13 12:38
true He should be top 1 IMO because of his overall influence on Gambit. They swapped just one player with hobbit (and not horrible player either) and suddenly they went from tier 2 to top 1/2 dominating 90%+ of other tier 1 teams. Hobbit smartest player 100%
2021-10-13 15:28
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i am the biggest hobbit fan but s1mple is unstoppable this year and nobody but him deserves top1
2021-10-13 15:35
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You didn't understand what I wrote but it's ok. There are some crucial aspects that can't be measured by rating
2021-10-13 16:11
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United States juraf|
yeah but that stuff never goes into HLTV top 20 ranking as much
2021-10-13 17:29
sorry but there is no way niko will finish above hobbit lmao
2021-10-13 14:58
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name checks out
2021-10-13 15:28
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yea i know but i am serious read #17 that guy seems pretty smart
2021-10-13 15:29
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i feel like if anything shr1o will be higher, but not hobbit its possible but unlikely imo
2021-10-13 15:30
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with a good major, i see sh1ro actually finishing 2nd. hobbit will be 3rd or 4th, i'd assume 4th because hltv loves zywoo despite him not winning anything this year
2021-10-13 15:31
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ya, it probably all depends on the major
2021-10-13 15:33
U're right but the year isn't over yet and niko is on godlike form after break
2021-10-13 15:39
niko has won nothing this year, compared to ax1le and hobbit who have both won 2 mvps, and 5 big trophies ax1le will be under hobbit (hobbit has a higher impact rating and more consistent overall)
2021-10-13 15:08
he should be higher than axile
2021-10-13 15:29
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Europe JUNlOR
hltv.org/stats/players/3741/niko?startDa.. hltv.org/stats/players/8528/hobbit?start.. hobbit 100% in top 5. imo top 5 will be s1mple, zywoo, sh1ro, hobbit, ax1le crazy that so many gambit players could be in the top 5.
2021-10-13 15:36
niko in top5?? he hasnt won anything this year nor got MVP and his stats arent incredible for top 5 player hobbit has similar stats tho but he won some top tier events + gained 2 MVPs
2021-10-13 17:34
Difficult to say, how did he perform before he joined Gambit the 1st time and how did he perform after the major-win?
2021-10-13 12:09
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before winning - true, consistent star after major... well... he joined HR in one moment which says a lot about his shape back then
2021-10-13 17:36
Top 5 Kazakstani player like if u agree
2021-10-13 12:09
Imo GOAT status players are s1mple ZyWoo sanji and hobbit isnt better than any of them
2021-10-13 12:10
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goat is between device, olof or cold s1mple without a major cant be the goat, have you ever seen a goat in any sport that hasn't won the most important trophy?
2021-10-13 14:57
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Major isnt mot important tourney, it is just sticker tournament with tier 5 temas, Grans slam is biger
2021-10-13 15:19
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0/8 my dear swedish friend in skinny jeans
2021-10-13 15:20
#26
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United Kingdom julz!
yeah both Ronaldo and messi
2021-10-13 15:25
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champions league most important world cup is lottery if you werent born in the right country you will never win no matter how good
2021-10-13 15:26
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#28
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United Kingdom julz!
you act like messi just doesnt choke at world cups lol
2021-10-13 15:27
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he didn't, he almost single handedly got them in the final once though.
2021-10-13 15:29
#42
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Europe JUNlOR
s1mple's career is far from over. So that no major argument doesn't hold up. Imo the IGS holds more weight but can't be considered for GOAT status as it hasn't been around since the launch of the game like the major.
2021-10-13 15:38
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that argument holds up perfectly lol, he wont be considered a goat until he wins the most important throphy, very simple actually. his individual stats and achievements are enough to be in the conversation for goat status even without major, but to be the undisputed goat he needs the trophy. as for now, device is the goat imo
2021-10-13 15:42
Ye, Messi.
2021-10-13 16:28
zywoo literally new guy on scene, no way hes goat s1mple hasnt even got 1 major, no way hes goat sanji hasnt won anything in his life and dogshit fragger, no way hes goat #13 tbh, device most decorated player in cs, olof most legendary player in cs, coldzera had one of the most dominant eras of cs
2021-10-13 15:15
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+1
2021-10-13 15:20
for sure one of the goat's
2021-10-13 12:17
insanely hard working player, deserves top 5
2021-10-13 12:18
If the team continues to be as good on LAN one more year he could be
2021-10-13 12:19
Top 5 Device Coldzera KennyS GTR Forrest Nobody else
2021-10-13 12:26
#15
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Turkey Rjea
LOTR is better
2021-10-13 15:00
#16
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Estonia thisba!tes
The man, the myth, the beast
2021-10-13 15:06
#18
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Australia B_Tannen
I think it'll put him in contention to be one. Because if Gambit wins Stockholm, that storyline of coming back years after 2017 Gambit to win another major would be insane.
2021-10-13 15:09
he only good in online era 2021 and 1 major(2017),AHHAHA
2021-10-13 15:21
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flag checks out, jealous major choker lul
2021-10-13 15:22
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ok, now check hobbit in 2020, 2019, 2018, 2016. 2015
2021-10-13 15:51
Is definitely one of the greats!
2021-10-13 15:24
Yes, hobbit doesnt left shire for no reason
2021-10-13 15:28
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Brazil moonski
ye
2021-10-13 15:36
No,I dont think so.He was great at the major ofc and had a great year now but this was all online so it wont be as impressive.Dont think its enough to make him an all time great. If it does then pretty much everyone that won a major is an all time great but for me there needs to be more.
2021-10-13 15:39
You have guys that are coming up on their fourth consecutive top 20 (electronic) fifth, (elige), sixth (Niko/Simple) etc These are the guys firmly on paths to all time great status especially if they keep it up. They all have more offline trophies as well. It's not that it's impossible he doesn't become an Oskar type and just become a dominant rifler into his late 20s and delivers a ton of offline trophies next year. Don't think it's super likely but it's possible. He still seems like a weird player to me though. I watched this guy become really good in 2017 then absolutely flounder for three years to the point where I think most people if they're being honest with themselves completely wrote him off. The career resurgence is cool but all time great with the current resume is really pushing it.
2021-10-13 15:53
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
"All-time" is definitely bizarre but I would consider him a legend.
2021-10-13 15:55
the movie or book?
2021-10-13 16:12
stop smoking crack dude
2021-10-13 16:39
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what?
2021-10-13 16:54
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Hobbit wouldn't even make the top 10 of all time csgo greats maybe top 20.
2021-10-13 17:09
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with a 2 nd major win he breaks in to the top10 for sure
2021-10-13 17:28
no lol
2021-10-13 16:41
#53
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Peru TheJuan
no
2021-10-13 16:42
after YEKINDAR
2021-10-13 16:42
#57
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United States Jeebur
Not unless this Gambit continues for a couple more years. He may get 2 majors but his appearance has been in and out. He basically showed his potential in 2018 then basically faded out until 2020/2021
2021-10-13 17:11
cold, s1, get right, zywooo, olof>
2021-10-13 17:30
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