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M4A4 vs M4A1-s
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Brazil jks_top1_no_doubt 
Shots in the body to kill M4A4: 5 M4A1-S: 4 M4A1-S: Cheaper M4A4: Noisier Valve drunk?
2021-10-13 23:10
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#1
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Finland byrbyl
M4A1-s: Less bullets M4A4: More bullets M4A1-s: Slower fire rate M4A4: Faster fire rate
2021-10-13 23:12
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#4
Hobbit | 
North America Beecs
a1s no tracers a1s can be purchased 2nd round with head armor if u dont see anyone pistol $150 + $3250 = $3400 head armor = $3400 - $350 = $3050 a1s = $2900 a4 = $3100 also imagine an AK with 25 clip but can 3 hit to the body a1s is a direct upgrade
2021-10-13 23:14
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#7
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Finland byrbyl
why are u telling me this lol
2021-10-13 23:15
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#32
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Bulgaria LARRATT
the high thread reply attention hits different
2021-10-14 09:52
faster high rate = faster double dink or headshot + body shot, even though the difference is minimal. the m4a1-s pattern is even easier than the a4 but its harder to spam smokes with the silenced rifle, i used to play w a4 and im actually doing good with the a1 rn, to me its pretty balanced
2021-10-13 23:15
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It would be balanced if the prices were the same, now it's not worth to spend 200$ more for almost identical gun
2021-10-14 13:29
M4A1-s: Slower fire rate, but faster kill M4A4: Faster fire rate, but slower kill
2021-10-13 23:16
2 replies
truth is so funny that it is actually sad by now
2021-10-14 19:02
#85
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North America 007DBR9
only if you don't dink first shot
2021-10-14 19:10
That makes CT economy better so who cars
2021-10-13 23:13
#3
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Russia Trueteller
it's not even a choice anymore it was pretty balanced, but now it's a no-brainer to use the silenced one if you still use M4A4 you have no brain
2021-10-13 23:14
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it wasn't balanced, if it was why were so many using the m4.
2021-10-13 23:18
5 replies
#17
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Russia Trueteller
I didn't say it was perfect balanced but "pretty balanced" they definitely did disbalance it more than balanced it more with this change
2021-10-13 23:19
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honestly I think volvo should buff m4 slightly, smth like close range have 1 shot head shot, or upped fire rate or dmg up
2021-10-13 23:24
3 replies
close range 1 shot head shot is WAY too op.
2021-10-14 01:22
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close like new deagle 2 shot or closer. but yeah thinking about it it would be too op mb
2021-10-14 09:38
Yeah maybe give that to aug so no more 99 in 1
2021-10-14 14:51
Im using A4 bcz im used to it and i like it, ofc i kinda like a1s but not for my style
2021-10-14 15:35
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#79
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Russia Trueteller
makes sense if you really like it, it's a game after all, everyone should play however they want mainly I mean for pros in cs, it's a no brainer in that regard
2021-10-14 16:10
Yupp, m4a1-s definitely needs another update because now it's basically back to its old OP state that it was in before the very first nerf came many years ago.
2021-10-13 23:14
4 replies
nah.. one good buff that should balance things up should get the A4 to cost 2900, that would sort it out
2021-10-13 23:16
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I dont think so, buffs and nerfs are NEVER about the prize of the weapons, I think that has been very clear over the years.
2021-10-13 23:19
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If youre a good aimer and can ALWAYS buy m4a4 way faster than m4a1ss then why not
2021-10-14 13:39
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Sure but what do you think is gonna happen when you can buy the m4a1-s? Do you think people will still buy it or will they buy the obviously better weapon?
2021-10-14 14:30
2021-10-13 23:14
Benefits of a4 -> spray transferring is just better with it. I think valve need to make a1s 20 bullets and have both guns be 2900. This is good fix i think.
2021-10-13 23:15
8 replies
why 20 bullets wtf
2021-10-13 23:15
I agree
2021-10-13 23:18
#30
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Turkmenistan reinkarno
i think they should remove bullets at all, like you just run and smash someone head with that gun brazil style
2021-10-14 09:40
5 replies
+1
2021-10-14 09:55
#52
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North America Zorxs
+1
2021-10-14 13:27
#91
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India skyl4rk
xD
2021-10-15 06:02
+1
2021-10-15 08:02
+1 this should be in game.
2021-10-15 08:03
it wasn't balanced, if it was why were so many using the m4.
2021-10-13 23:19
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But now the table turned ways
2021-10-13 23:23
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yup. So it's balanced, right? right?
2021-10-13 23:27
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NO, thats exactly what i'm talking about haha
2021-10-14 00:02
Remember the krieg?
2021-10-14 14:47
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you can't compare the two
2021-10-14 14:58
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maybe you can, noone is talking about the economic impact of a full team with the a1s.
2021-10-14 18:25
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The question is about it being balanced not the economy.
2021-10-14 18:39
I use aug\sg
2021-10-13 23:28
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#22
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Brazil okemas
scope abuser
2021-10-13 23:35
aug is good.... ak better.... but R8 best.
2021-10-14 09:43
#24
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Spain c0rde
I think it is dificult to balance this 2 weapons. Maybe remove 1 lol.
2021-10-14 00:08
#25
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Canada firtlast
a1s - right click = die a4 - right click = nothing ez
2021-10-14 00:10
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#39
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Poland KIKIS
+1
2021-10-14 12:41
Why do you even right click ! I never do that :D
2021-10-14 15:02
2 replies
In panic when u have 5 glawks coming into u:DD
2021-10-14 15:37
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Oh thats a different story. I would right click or even alt-tab
2021-10-14 15:38
ah yes the armchair experts are here to fix the game
2021-10-14 01:18
1 reply
+1 lol
2021-10-14 12:53
Maybe they should up the price of the a1-s to equal the m4 But idk it seems ok so far to me, people who prefer M4 definitely aren't super disadvantaged If you know the M4 pattern then a dual between the two probably favours the M4 Tap accuracy obviously much better for a1-s Bullets definitely need to stay as is, upping or lowering either will be super overpowered/underpowered a1-s definitely better for just straight killing enemies m4 a lot more versatile, good for spraying down 2 or more enemies or through smokes, 5 extra bullets can mean a lot in a clutch or when trying to hold a bombsite this is probably what they're going for price balance might not be a bad idea though in my mind
2021-10-14 01:36
Why tf valve can't find a nice middle ground, they either overbuff(a1s) or overnerf(sg) Valve get your act together
2021-10-14 10:01
I like the idea of giving the A1-S a 20 bullet mag again. Making them both the same price. And letting you buy both. What are the issues with this?
2021-10-14 10:05
M4A1-s also more accurate which makes it now stronger overall
2021-10-14 10:15
3 replies
+1
2021-10-14 10:19
#58
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Finland bro_
+1
2021-10-14 13:44
+1
2021-10-15 06:56
Why are people bitching? I don't get it. We finally have something nice for the CT. A1 is still worse than AK so it's balanced.
2021-10-14 12:33
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Exactly Also A1 has better skins (IMO) and sound is more satisfying (IMO). Not to mention I got tired of using A4 for few years and change is welcome
2021-10-14 12:57
1 reply
+1
2021-10-15 09:11
A1s bullets / mag could be dropped to 20 and the 5 bullets / mag we'd lose should be put to the reserve. After that they should just allow you to buy both the A1 and the A4 at the same time. They'd both have their pros and cons + a teammate could be dropped the M4 they prefer instead of the one you have equipped.
2021-10-14 12:49
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This is the big change that needs to be added and really should have been in the game literally since the A1 launched. Just give each rifle a slot. There's no reason CT's shouldn't be able to choose mid-game. Because despite everyone freaking out the A4 is still better at close range and always better with a dink. It's still usable for sure and if each rifle had a slot teams (and us of course) could choose based on what they were going to do going into the round.
2021-10-15 05:34
A4 better because my friend use it (he is 6lvl so no jokes here)
2021-10-14 12:56
4 replies
Omg lvl6. Comon you gotta be kidding me right? Tell him to join eternal fire as 5th player (no jokes) :)
2021-10-14 15:04
3 replies
They asked but he didnt agree sorry
2021-10-14 15:23
2 replies
Gotta call xantares and beat his ass for that >:(
2021-10-14 15:33
1 reply
Sorry he is busy cooking double kebabs <3
2021-10-14 18:34
#45
SPUNJ | 
Europe Pts
I'll always go for M4A4 It just feels more satisfying to use M4A4 - for men M4A1-s - for women
2021-10-14 13:00
4 replies
I agree with the "satisfaction" here. But still, A1 is much better these days. I miss those days when A4 had the old sound. That was truly satisfying..
2021-10-14 13:11
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#50
SPUNJ | 
Europe Pts
Yea i agree that A1 is better now. But i just don't like that weapon at all :D And yea ur right, i miss the old sound aswell
2021-10-14 13:23
well I better have my balls removed
2021-10-15 05:42
1 reply
i can remove ur balls
2021-10-15 08:05
Just buff A4 to 2900 and AUG to 3100
2021-10-14 13:04
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#60
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Korea HullU
oh yes please :D
2021-10-14 14:28
m4 more bullets m4 faster firerate m4 more damage on hs so when u hit at least 1 hs while spraying the m4 is much better just learn aim insted of waste the time od creating these threads and crying
2021-10-14 13:13
delete this information sir
2021-10-14 13:14
swap prices ez
2021-10-14 13:27
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no,probably make them the same prices or make A4 3000 and A1s 3100
2021-10-14 14:33
a4 rn useless
2021-10-14 13:36
to close this dignitas.gg/articles/blogs/CSGO/8309/in-.. ...so. it dependos on what you prefer and how you are going to play. 30m or further the A1-s has advantages.
2021-10-14 13:39
#57
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Brazil Khart
How to balance both imo: M4A4: $2900 (only change the price) M4A1-S: $3100 and 30 bullets (change price and bullets) This way M4A1-S is clearly better, but $200 more expensive while also being in a pretty useful position
2021-10-14 13:41
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surely higher fire rate means at a higher level where ppl only rlly shoot heads m4a4 better because after u dink it's faster shot to body so time to kill lower for m4a4
2021-10-14 14:53
#59
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Finland pate1
Who says a4 has to be the better one? I'm glad A1-S is better now
2021-10-14 14:22
99 in 4 hits is pain in the ass
2021-10-14 14:48
3 replies
not anymore..... after update I haven't encountered any 99 damage. either way I always go for headshots with A1.
2021-10-14 14:56
or 99 in 1 with AUG close range, bestestestest.
2021-10-14 19:07
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#92
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Asia M@GNU5
i hate that so much
2021-10-15 06:05
#71
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Estonia atuliba
today, m4a1-s is better imo
2021-10-14 15:05
They have it a lot of small buffs to try and make it balanced, noone switched and with this damage buff that would have been enough on its own, its better in almokat everyone way
2021-10-14 15:16
#78
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Poland gobelin77
M4A1-S is better now but i think the M4A4 should cost as much as M4A1-S
2021-10-14 15:39
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#87
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Poland BotW1kt0r
+1
2021-10-14 19:16
#86
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Poland BotW1kt0r
+1
2021-10-14 19:16
The M4A4 is marginally better at close range and always better with a dink. I will say this they should 100% be the same price again but if anything both rifles should be 2900 or even go down to 2700 the CT economy has been gut punched over the last two/three years. If they are going to keep the prices different and make the A1 more then they need to just add a slot for each weapon. It's always been stupid that you have to pick one or the other going into matches and as far as I can tell there's no rhyme or reason to it. Overall though even if we are just entering an M4a1 CT meta for a while I'm totally fine with that. It's good to have the game shook up every now and then. The AK is still the better rifle which it does need to be considering how the game works. It's not game-changing like the AUG at the height of it's power.
2021-10-15 05:30
m4a1-s needs ammo nerf back down to 50, and then switch up the prices. I think they should be like the usp p2000, granted the p2000 needs a buff desperately.
2021-10-15 08:14
I mean the a1 was so bad for so long, it's about time it came back in the spotlight
2021-10-15 08:17
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