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Best team on each map
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Serbia ezforSKIPPER 
Vertigo:Gambit Nuke:Navi Mirage:Gambit/NAVI ( but imo gambit>navi on this map) Dust2:Spirit/BIG ( i think spirit>BIG) Ancient:NIP Inferno:Vitality Overpass:Gambit/Vitality ( Gambit>Vit on this map IMO)
2021-10-14 01:04
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Liquid up there for Vertigo, but I agree
2021-10-14 01:05
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if i had to choose a second option i would say VIT on vertigo honestly, ty^^
2021-10-14 01:06
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liquid 16-8 vita on vertigo, liquid only lost vtg once in last 3 months to gambit in OT(which coulda gone the other day on a diff day), maybe heroic is better but idk
2021-10-14 01:12
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you got a point but i feel like vertigo became very strong map for vitality nowadays especially adter win over gambit on it and even before that. btw ye that map vs gambit truly could went either ways but i just think that gambit is stronger team as a whole
2021-10-14 01:16
No way you would pick vitality over liquid bro liquid has ~10% higher win rate on vertigo than vitality and has beat them twice in vertigo whilst vitality have beaten liquid once in vertigo in 2021
2021-10-14 01:14
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2021-10-14 01:16
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liquid just beat vitality in vertigo tho
2021-10-14 01:19
vita beat liquid twice on vert in the first 2 months of 2021 and then liquid comfortably beat them at blast. liquid got a lot better so use the more recent result
2021-10-14 01:18
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umm, no vitality only beat liquid once. I said liquid won twice against vitality and vitality only once against liquid in vertigo in 2021. I'm saying that liquid is better than vitality so what's the problem? I'm on your side man
2021-10-14 01:22
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o i misread lol, you replied to #11 instead of #3, my b tho i misread
2021-10-14 01:27
every map: astrlais
2021-10-14 01:05
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if we go back a few years ago yea
2021-10-14 01:06
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:( mensss Reply needs to have actual content
2021-10-14 01:06
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bubz where?? t2 player LMAO jkjkjk sorry baiter
2021-10-14 01:08
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unlucky for boob
2021-10-14 01:08
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well who gives af about bub, he deserves it, he’s the worst player in ast ( not counting lucky cuz he’s an awper)
2021-10-14 11:47
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he has had some good events, bt sometimes hes not that good
2021-10-14 21:12
never heard of astrlais, new talents?
2021-10-14 21:19
Inferno: POGGERZ have never lost on it EVER
2021-10-14 01:06
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poggerz also rlly good at mirage and nuke, only one loss to onliner cheater team..
2021-10-14 01:07
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True, they got hit with the coach bug. Even papa Loba confirmed it himself.
2021-10-14 01:12
ok
2021-10-14 01:08
Sad to see what happened to BIGs Vertigo, they were by far the best team on Vertigo (they were even better on it than they were on Dust and they were better than Gambit) but they never picked it and always gone Dust 2, and seemingly havent practiced it enough. :/
2021-10-14 01:11
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they’re like spirit, overall bad team with weak map pool but on that one map GOD team
2021-10-14 01:17
Liquid is extremely good on vertigo
2021-10-14 01:12
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+1 but i feel like gambit,vit>liquid on vertigo also #16
2021-10-14 01:17
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yeh i agree with that
2021-10-14 01:20
bro, no again it's liquid>vitality. It doesn't matter if vitality beats Gambit when they lose to Liquid and Heroic. Liquid, therefore, is the better team and they also have a higher win percentage on vertigo so wtf are you saying anymore man, stop playing around and admit that liquid>vitality cuz it's the truth. There's no "I feel like" or "in my opinion", there's just the truth. Come on man
2021-10-14 01:29
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truth in my eyes is that; vit>liquid on vrtg in past liquid>vit, nowadays its reverse cuz vit became so strong
2021-10-14 01:32
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BRO HOW DID VITALITY BECOME STRONGER THAN LIQUID WHEN THEY JUST LOST TO LIQUID LAST MONTH (16-8 BTW) I DONT UNDERSTAND YOUR LOGIC UR MAKING ME MAD
2021-10-14 01:35
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one map doesent prove anything. im sure that we will see in the future that clash again. When was the last time liquid won any good team on vertigo except VIT?? (dont tell me astralis pls)
2021-10-14 01:42
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one map doesn't prove anything so vitality beating gambit doesn't mean anything. And when did vitality win any good team on vertigo except gambit??? (don't tell me complexity pls) btw I already know the answer: Vitality hasn't beaten any good team on vertigo in 2021 other than gambit and liquid once. Your opinion of vitality becoming strong is not great since they haven't beaten any other good teams other than gambit in the last months.
2021-10-14 02:45
liquid is better just give up already -liquid in the last 3 months beat vitality and barely lost to gambit -vitality in the last 3 months barely beat gambit and got destroyed by liquid and heroic
2021-10-14 02:53
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you’re boring, idgaf if you disagree with me, i said my opinion and fuck off dude
2021-10-14 11:39
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oh so now I'm boring? So you don't have any more arguments to back up your opinion of vitality being better, so you just have to call me boring now? Got it. I'll fuck off now since I won in this conversation.
2021-10-14 11:55
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maybe you’re right in general, i didnt say that you’re not. IMO VIT>Liquid. STOP BOTHERING ME IDGAF ABOUT YOUR OPINION
2021-10-14 11:57
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yes, I am right in general thx for finally admitting it. I'll stop bothering you now. You don't have to reply anymore
2021-10-14 11:59
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finally you understand the word IMO, listen to someone before you speak to him kid
2021-10-14 12:01
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Yea well I was just tryna change your opinion since it was so wrong IMO. Btw why is this conversation still going on?
2021-10-14 12:10
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anyways second place doesent matter, when gambit is just way too ahead of every other team
2021-10-14 12:11
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yea ur right, it doesn't Maybe forget about this conversation and shake hands 🤝?
2021-10-14 12:16
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y:) 🤝
2021-10-14 12:18
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Austria Grundz
BIG on Dust 2 with Xantares was super strong, but Dust 2 is often a coin flip map. Used to be NASTY on Vertigo too. Gambit > Everyone ever on Vertigo Vita > Gambit on Overpass Navi > Gambit on Mirage Broky on Ancient can be disgusting. Inferno basically a toss up most of the time.
2021-10-14 01:26
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you know what i think Mirage:EZ4ENCE Vertigo:EZ4ENCE DUST2:EZ4ENCE Inferno:EZ4ENCE ( 1 game 1 win 100%wr) Overpass:EZ4ENCE Nuke:EZ4ENCE Ancient:EZ4ENCE
2021-10-14 01:31
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Austria Grundz
True tho
2021-10-14 02:20
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btw #18
2021-10-14 11:47
Gambit vs Vita/Navi on Overpass and Mirage are pretty equal I’d say(Gmb still slightly better tho) Overpass: Gambit - 22/9 (71% win percentage) hltv.org/stats/teams/map/40/6651/gambit?.. Vitality - 13/7 (65% win percentage) hltv.org/stats/teams/map/40/9565/vitalit.. Mirage: Gambit - 27/7 (80% win percentage) hltv.org/stats/teams/map/32/6651/gambit?.. Navi - 25/13 (66% win percentage) hltv.org/stats/teams/map/32/4608/natus-v..
2021-10-14 02:13
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thats exactly what i said, ty
2021-10-14 02:21
#34
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Austria Grundz
At beginning of year I'd agree, but Vita and Navi looking strong right now. Navi especially strong compared to Gambit on lan, and Vitality was in an awful slump for 6 months.
2021-10-14 02:24
yeah, gambit are better than navi on mirage imo
2021-10-14 02:48
Yo vitality has 71% on ovp
2021-10-14 03:36
2021 comparison isn't really a good thing, if we take recent results, NAVI have been better on Mirage Since the starladder rmr NAVI have lost 3/19 Mirages they played, Gambit lost 4/12. And NAVI played vs tougher opposition and had a lot of very convincing scorelines
2021-10-14 16:05
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If we consider recent H2H between these teams then 4 vs 2 in favor of Gambit (Overall 6 vs 2 for the whole year)
2021-10-14 16:29
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2 vs 2 since the starladder btw, and if you want to compare h2h (useless thing), then Gambit are losing to G2 and VP, but are they the best Mirage teams?
2021-10-14 16:33
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Blast Spring Finals(where Navi lost to Gambit twice) and StarLadder are separated by only 10 days, so 4vs2 Those losses were very close & overall G2 and VP suck so comparing them to Gambit doesn’t make any sense, but if we compare H2H of Gambit and Navi it does make sense
2021-10-14 17:04
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h2h comparison doesn't make sense in any way, stop cherry-picking arguments (NaVi / Gambit vs any other team - irrelevant, but suddenly Gambit - NAVI h2h is a deciding factor lmao), it doesn't change the fact that NAVI have better recent record vs other teams And I took StarLadder as a starting point because NaVi have changed a lot of their strats and gameplans on that event (including Mirage, especially their T side) as a preparation for IEM Cologne. It's not really about time difference with BLAST
2021-10-14 17:40
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Serbia eliiiiii_
#12 but for G2 and Inferno
2021-10-14 03:08
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G2 shit so shut up
2021-10-14 03:33
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+1 LMAO
2021-10-14 11:34
maybe before iem cologne and on iem cologne
2021-10-14 11:34
ence is rly good at mirage too
2021-10-14 03:17
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yes i agree, and i would say: top 5 on mirage ( gmb,navi,vit,ence/forze)
2021-10-14 11:34
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Brazil Bactuga
Vitality best Inferno team after losing 16-2 to NiP? xD
2021-10-14 03:26
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one map doesent prove anything, nip lost to movistar as well so?
2021-10-14 11:35
Inferno no one Vertigo, ovp vitality Vita has defeated Gambit on both I think and their win percent is inflated because of cis cs.
2021-10-14 03:44
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They won gambit once on ovp and that was on iem summer bro, when they won 2-0. And you want to tell me that they are better VERTIGO team than gambit OMEGALUL
2021-10-14 11:36
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Argentina atriX^
Vertigo - Gambit best by far. 39% First Pick rate, 91% win rate in 2021. Liquid comes second with a 21% First Pick rate, 74% WR. Nuke - NAVI. 31% First Pick rate, 85% WR. Heroic comes second with a 58% First Pick Rate, 67% WR. If Heroic's WR as a bit higher, maybe they'd be the best because they are the only team that permapicks it. Mirage - Gambit, 11% First Pick rate (very low), 77% WR. NAVI or coL come second. NAVI has 20% First Pick rate, 64% WR while coL has a high 59% first pick rate but a lower 58% WR. Mirage has been coL's permapick in 2021. Dust2 - Spirit, 61% First Pick rate, 77% WR. BIG comes in second with 57% First Pick rate, 67% WR. Ancient - The matches amount is small BUT: NIP, 41% First Pick rate, 67% WR. FaZe comes in second with 37% first pick rate, 55% WR. Inferno - VP, 45% First Pick Rate, 66% WR. G2 comes in second with 24% First pick rate, 69% WR. Overpass - Gambit, 26% First Pick rate, 70% WR. Vitality comes in second with 30% First pick rate, 67% WR. *First pick values taken from vetoes for every S-tier event in 2021. WR values taken from from HLTV stats page with 2021 + top 30 filter*
2021-10-14 05:28
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so we can say that you almost agree with me. only not agreeing about inf:) for me on inf - vitality/nip/vp
2021-10-14 11:38
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#74
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Argentina atriX^
Well, I take it you were only thinking about the past 3 months while what I shared was for the entire 2021 which is why Vitality is not the best for inferno in my comment. Either way, it's not I that agree but rather the stats. What I shared are the win rates but taking in consideration vetoes. My opinion is that to be the best on a map you need a high win rate but also a high pick rate. NAVI has almost the same WR as G2 and VP on inferno but nowhere near as close in pick rate (whether First pick or Decider).
2021-10-14 16:10
#45
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Brazil iGooH
Vertigo: Gambit Mirage: Gambit Dust: BIG Inferno: Liquid Nuke: NAVI Ancient: NIP Overpass: Vitality
2021-10-14 05:30
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we almost agree ^^
2021-10-14 11:38
#57
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Finland Jlu7
Ence isn't far off from NIP on ancient tbh
2021-10-14 11:56
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idk i dont think so, bcz nip is dominantint on that map since it was added in map pool, and ence was shit before but on iem fall they played very good on it. So idk maybe in the future we can see that change:)
2021-10-14 11:58
Poggerz best mirage team
2021-10-14 11:56
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when you get any croatian pro player in any top 50 team, you can speak LMAOOO
2021-10-14 11:59
Totally wrong. Looking for org best on D2 hltv.org/stats/teams?startDate=2021-07-1.. 9Z on nuke hltv.org/stats/teams?startDate=2021-07-1.. Extra salt best on overpass hltv.org/stats/teams?startDate=2021-07-1.. And go on..
2021-10-14 12:15
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#85
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United Kingdom Jerry2805
Tbf you have to look at who these teams are facing. LookingForOrg are playing in australia where their only challenge is renegades, who spend half their time in eu. Same goes for 9z. Extra salt maybe the best on there that could deserve it, but they are nowhere near flawless on the map
2021-10-15 00:33
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Japan KuroX
Ancient: NIP Dust2: BIG Mirage: Vitality Nuke: NaVi Inferno: OG Overpass: Gambit Vertigo: Gambit
2021-10-14 13:15
Vertigo:FaZe and its not even close 100% winrate in the last 2 years like wow
2021-10-14 15:53
Inferno is played very well by NIP too I think.
2021-10-14 16:08
Inferno Vitality...? ehhh?
2021-10-14 16:15
agree
2021-10-14 16:21
excuse me i dont see 00nation on your list...
2021-10-14 16:41
NAVI best team on every map, Gambit worst team ever on nuke
2021-10-15 00:28
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