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G2 roles and potential changes
NiKo | 
United Kingdom mrturtle4769 
NiKo - Entry/Anchor/2nd AWP huNter - Main rifle/Rotation nexa - IGL/Lurker AmaNeK - Support/2nd caller -JaCkz +AWPER Cross-arguments: 1. "huNter needs JaCkz to perform": No, he doesn't; NiKo made it clear that huNter- had been going through personal problems when JaCkz was benched. As long as there's someone who can constantly make space for the team, huNter- does NOT need JaCkz. Moreover, JaCkz is already 29; which means that at some point he'll become washed and would require to be replaced. Therefore, it's essential for G2 to make necessary changes while they still can, because their options are limited and they don't have forever to wait. 2. "nexa strats are bad": Apparently, yes. G2's strats are terrible and they're being read like a book, even by lower tier teams, but one can't be certain if it's nexa coming up with these strats. During the first half of 2021, G2's strats focused a lot more on cohesive gameplay, trade-kills were almost spontaneous and rotates were well-timed. As of right now, G2 have 2 primary routes that can be headed: 1. A star AWPER: This is intended to create a setup such that other G2 players can still hold their own even if NiKo gets taken out during the first 15-20 seconds into the round. 2. An AWP IGL: This is intended to take pressure off of nexa/AmaNeK but imo this is an even worse option what they currently have. nexa is one of the best lurkers in the scene, but he's not a consistent fragger. Therefore it would be better if nexa sticks to calling and lets that AWPER do the fragging. On top of that, this setup will also help nexa have a lot more info than if he was to anchor; thus helping him call rotations or stack sites (if necessary) more effectively. One of G2's best options if they decide to go with a star AWPER that doesn't take as much space would be torzsi (when his ban gets lifted). He's still young and one of the best up and coming prospects in the scene. He will be an immediate upgrade over AmaNeK AWP and will be able to easily hold sites entirely on his own. He's also very mobile with the AWP (or any other weapon) but the only thing that limits him is his experience in higher echelons of competitive CS. /discuss
2021-10-17 10:28
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oh finally normal hltv user with working brain who suggested -Jackz instead of -Amanek good job
2021-10-17 10:31
10 replies
Don't get me wrong. JaCkz is an insane entry player, but NiKo is just better and considering how often he goes for entries, opens up sites and makes space for the team, I feel like they don't really need JaCkz. On the other hand, AmaNek;s roles are mutli-dimensional. He is a better suppport than nexa, can entry, can be a 2nd caller, etc.
2021-10-17 10:37
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but NiKo still isnt an entry fragger, he just likes to make those plays, doubt he would like to be one
2021-10-17 12:17
6 replies
I mean, if it's working out for G2, why not?
2021-10-17 16:00
5 replies
waste of talent, the amount of times entry dies first just can't have that be your best player. I feel like either niko or hunter has to give up their preferred role unless nexa gets kicked/becomes support and amanek gets kicked. otherwise the roles are just overlapping imo
2021-10-17 16:38
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that's a workaround, yes. They could kick nexa and NiKo could play lurker, and they can [instead] bring an entry IGL; somebody like apEX
2021-10-17 16:52
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yeah entry igl would def be a good pickup, maybe if vitality crumbles at some point there could be a niko, hunter, amanek, apex and zywoo lineup lol
2021-10-17 17:00
why would you limit your insane star player to a role? NiKo is an insanely talented player, he should be given space in the same way navi make space for s1mple to shine
2021-10-17 16:54
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2021-10-17 16:56
#57
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Germany Matrixrl1
there are 2 types of entrying tho. taco was on HLTV confirmed and they talked about it. you have your hard execute entry ( which is jackz in G2 ), and you have a player that goes for openings across the map ( which is NiKo ). They talked about it in more detail
2021-10-17 16:35
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I'll make sure to check that out thanks))
2021-10-17 16:50
agreed
2021-10-17 10:32
#3
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United Kingdom Mattthematt
-Hunter +awper is the non-biased move, trying to build a team around two star riflers simply doesn’t work.
2021-10-17 10:33
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Who's the second? I mean, huNter- is the only "star" player up front, NiKo entry.
2021-10-17 10:38
4 replies
In theory Niko and hunter
2021-10-17 10:58
3 replies
not really. NiKo can make space for the team while huNter(or nexa) can be the clutch player
2021-10-17 11:00
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so ur gonna put ur best player who is solo carrying a team to an entry fragger role? thats as same as putting s1mple and zywoo to entry wich doent make sense at all. They can entry better than their teammates, but still its a waste to do it.
2021-10-17 14:47
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I'd say it depends. If G2 aren't able to hold their own without NiKo, it's hard to tell if they can do anything much with him. In the first half of 2021, G2 were able to establish themselves as a Top 5 team because they could beat Top tier teams even when NiKo had a bad day.
2021-10-17 16:05
#21
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Bulgaria alekscho89
hunter and niko always carrying and u want -hunter braindead
2021-10-17 11:39
13 replies
Role wise Hunter is the most replaceable player, Hunter for a good awper would be a straight up upgrade
2021-10-17 12:03
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#28
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Bulgaria alekscho89
nop it wont be cause amanek sucks with assault rifles and they can go either - Jacks either - amanek
2021-10-17 12:04
10 replies
cause amanek sucks with assault rifles by any chance did u start watching cs yesterday
2021-10-17 13:41
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#38
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Bulgaria alekscho89
no actually today
2021-10-17 13:47
8 replies
yea so amanek is very inconsistent on awp but with other weapons hes really versatile
2021-10-17 13:48
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#42
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Bulgaria alekscho89
no bro he isnt, i havent seen i highlight of him doing a multikill or something like that ,he is a average player nothing wow
2021-10-17 14:36
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-1 not as good as huNter but he's extremely versatile, can play many roles and positions, selfless. Replacing AmaNeK means they're going to have to drain a crap ton of money.
2021-10-17 16:10
#56
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Germany Matrixrl1
#38 you actually arent lying...
2021-10-17 16:32
Reading your comments actually hurts my brain, please think before you speak. Amanek isn't the best awper, that's for sure. But throw an AK or a Mac-10 in this dude's hands and 9/10 times he's gonna crack open a site for you guarantee it.
2021-10-17 17:03
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#87
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Bulgaria alekscho89
nah he trash if i had a team i would pick draken before him even though draken was trash only hitting wow shots
2021-10-17 17:48
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this has to be an obvious bait. AmaNeK is NOT an AWPER (not a T1 AWPER, atleast). The best I could help you is ask you to watch AmaNeK demos before he was pushed into AWP role.
2021-10-17 17:53
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+1
2021-10-17 19:07
sounds like the pre-NiKo G2 roster but with NiKo in place of huNter and "some other" AWPER instead of kennyS
2021-10-17 16:06
87-0 neverforget
2021-10-17 12:36
#5
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Asia M@GNU5
if i remember correctly niko was entrying when he was in faze
2021-10-17 10:38
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NiKo and rain, yes.
2021-10-17 10:38
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#9
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Asia M@GNU5
then this move makes more reasonable to happen
2021-10-17 10:39
they all suck
2021-10-17 10:38
Very nice thread, so professional and accurate. Only thing that i am not buying is torzsi as an awper, not bcz of his skill, bcz there is no way mous is letting him.He’s destined to stay in mous/mouz nxt believe me. Signing cerq/poizon/nawkk maybe or even going for the kennyS again ( but unfortunately i think he’s gone). Sad thing is that they could easily sign guy like deko but his english is shit, its very hard to find an CIS Awper who has great english.
2021-10-17 10:43
3 replies
thanks))
2021-10-17 10:44
Maybe add Neofrag?
2021-10-17 12:16
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I don't see why that's necessary. All they need is an AWPER and the other roles will just slot right in place
2021-10-17 16:55
Agree. Even though I like jackz as a player I think g2 needs an experienced main awp. But who would be available? There are not many awpers free and most are in fix teams unlikely to leave them
2021-10-17 10:44
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word on the street was that they were trying to get rid of JaCkz and sign Maka. Perhaps, they could use him as a 6th, so potentially tinkering around with maka and AmaNeK/JaCkZ as to which setup is more well-suited for the G2 ecosystem.
2021-10-17 10:46
and where do they get the money for a star awper? >torzsi (when his ban gets lifted) not a star awper
2021-10-17 10:46
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but he doesn't take nearly as much space as other "star" AWPERS and is also an upgrade over AmaNeK.
2021-10-17 10:47
#22
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Finland DTeeVee
G2 is like one of the richest orgs
2021-10-17 11:43
1 reply
but they don't want to throw money away either
2021-10-17 12:06
kick amanek, + any awper best than him
2021-10-17 10:56
5 replies
you're missing out the point. AmaNeK is not essentially an AWPER. There are roles that he can play better than his respective teammates. Just bringing him back to support while bringing in a better AWPER in place of JaCkz could do the trick
2021-10-17 10:59
4 replies
he misses so many easy shots. how respect that bot, jackz also no good . kick french bots. this is only solution
2021-10-17 11:32
3 replies
why? you could just take AmaNeK out of AWPING duties and slot of him in as a support where he does his best? Sure, you could go the extra mile and get somebody like maden, but I doubt G2 would bother dropping another 50 grands when they already have one of the most versatile players around.
2021-10-17 15:54
-1 braindead take, whenever someone just calls the pro players bots and asks for kicks without any explanation i'm sure they are still ruining other people's ecperiences on matchmaking
2021-10-17 19:57
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overall, he's so bad. also stupid face
2021-10-18 12:15
I agree with this, but idk about torszi. Maybe some higher experienced awper
2021-10-17 11:48
Stoped reading at niko anchor Imagine putting a active lurker in the most passive role
2021-10-17 11:52
2 replies
NiKo does play anchor in a lot of impact-heavy positions like B-site Inferno or connector Mirage on CT-side early into the round.
2021-10-17 17:02
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I didnt know connector count as an anchor spot XD it’s literally entry About inferno this map is so dynamic so doesn’t really matter wich spot you play all of them are same position t sides can easily change the strat in 10 seconds and go from B to A but in mirage it aint like that The only spot in inferno that has so much pressure is the spot olof and og niko plays( i forgot the name:) and i think nexa plays that
2021-10-17 17:37
+1 Actually. Make NiKo entry and huNter- as star player.
2021-10-17 11:52
G2 was doing fine for quite some time and I still think if NiKo suceeded with AWP it would be great. If G2 bring in star AWper, in my opinion, it would collide with NiKo (star rifler+star awp, and there's some ego involved). If Niko play pure entry, with his firepower potential, uhm, wouldn't it be the thing opponents will adapt to? Imagine his entry sucess being bellow 60%? 40% of rounds would be on awp shoulders if Hunter and Nexa keep their current form. I think you proposed excellent moves btw. I just think someone like FalleN is a must for G2. He would not collide with Niko, he could call (passive awpers are usually last to die), and he would be upgrade from Amanek's AWP (which is obviously not very good, maybe because he is not natural AWPer but still). So if G2 lose entry+support they need either 2 replacements, someone like Hyp9x + awp like FalleN and it can work. Only think I don't understand is how exactly you get from losing vs NaVi in finals after you beat Gambit and other top contenders, being in good shape, and after just few months you can't compete with t2. Props to OP one more time, really good discussion!
2021-10-17 12:02
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they would not lose support because right now nexa is supporting (since amanek became main awp). if they get an awp then amanek can get back to his support roles and nexa can still do some support roles. the more difficult thing is to actually get a good awp. there is no tier1 awp available atm and i dont think g2 will buy out someone who is super expensive from an active roster.
2021-10-17 12:14
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Amanek is playing kind of AWP support. I agree they can't buyout zywoo but if they want major title someday and are rich org it's nobrainer.
2021-10-17 14:01
+1 but there's a catch. Having an AWP+IGL would've been a perfect solution for G2 IF all their players were consistent fraggers. Unfortunately they aren't . Lifting pressure off of nexa into the hands of a 2nd caller doesn't make nexa the "ULTIMATE FRAGGING MACHINE" instead it drains the fragging potential of the AWPER who could've otherwise been much more potent with the contribution of firepower. EDIT: Also NiKo being entry in this setup doesn't help either because he's the heavy-lifter and if he goes down everybody else just falls one after another and there is no X-factor to save the round.
2021-10-17 17:39
Putting NiKo as an entry is horrible. They might get more 4v4 or even 4v3 situations but other bots in the team couldn't close the round.
2021-10-17 12:18
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that's the point. Creating a setup where they can close out even with man disadvantages, something that teams like Gambit and Heroic are very good at doing.
2021-10-17 17:04
#34
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India skyl4rk
+1
2021-10-17 12:29
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#35
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India skyl4rk
Was nexa entry in crazy roster?
2021-10-17 12:30
1 reply
LETN1
2021-10-17 17:14
+1
2021-10-17 13:53
#43
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Brazil hugoooo
I think the French duo hold the team down so hard, the Balkan core trio is definitely top5 material if they have the correct other two pieces
2021-10-17 14:42
#44
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China Tyranthose
Who will be on your list? Players from ex-Yugoslav only, especially those that can speak Serbian (or Croatian/Bosnian/Montenegrin): Loba - IGL Niko Hunter Maden ? - AWP Kassad+ Legija - Coach + Analyst
2021-10-17 14:46
amanek 2nd caller? has he called before? i would rather make NiKo 2nd caller since he called for quite a while in faze
2021-10-17 14:47
2 replies
wasn't he like the 2nd caller till Cologne?
2021-10-17 15:59
1 reply
oh i didnt know that
2021-10-17 16:38
+smooooooya is best solution
2021-10-17 14:58
Nexa is not an insane lurker lmaoo
2021-10-17 16:11
1 reply
he is, look at his demos when he played lurker
2021-10-17 16:52
finally someone with a brain
2021-10-17 16:27
#59
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Portugal Davdio
+1 finally one user with brain, gz
2021-10-17 16:38
G2 after Major: - Frenchies +CIS youngster awper +another guy that knows how to shoot Nexa to another role, keep Balkan trio to not ruin ecosystem. When NiKo and Hunter are dried off of profit, you can start making good changes
2021-10-17 16:43
nah,torszi doesn't have experience in t1 at all
2021-10-17 17:00
4 replies
If G2 would be looking out for cemented T1 talents, I'm afraid they're out of luck. Most T1 AWPERS will be unwilling to leave, and even if they do, their contract will be so explicitly huge either because they're already in a contract or they're just big name players, and/or they'll take away so much space for NiKo/huNter thus conflicting with the system required a complete overhaul.
2021-10-17 17:08
3 replies
merge BIG and G2
2021-10-17 17:12
you're correct,but they should've bought smooya imo
2021-10-17 17:41
1 reply
+1
2021-10-17 17:42
#74
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France PP_Bizon
This whole thing has one big problem, too much of the twisted roles of this roster are being kept. I'd go for removing more players and go for a full rebuild rather than patch holes again.
2021-10-17 17:11
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Apparently G2 had no clue what they were doing when they brought NiKo in. Even Malek himself said that NiKo was not binding well into the system. Not because of individual performance but because of the roles overlapping.
2021-10-17 17:28
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#90
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France PP_Bizon
Yeah, malek is probably in a weird position right now.
2021-10-17 18:07
why would igl lurk
2021-10-17 17:15
#78
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Serbia CoVRa
- Jackz +M0nesy Ama support Hunter entry Niko lurker Nexa IGL, anchor And m0nesy star player
2021-10-17 17:21
1 reply
If they can convince Na'Vi, sure.
2021-10-17 17:24
bro they had a star AWPer... They made him an ultra passive support AWP who had to always flash for his team and juggle around nades instead of finding picks. G2's gamestyle doesn't allow for a star AWPer to be there.
2021-10-17 17:25
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By a "star" AWPER, I meant somebody who doesn't whiff 9 out of 10 shots.
2021-10-17 17:29
#89
JaCkz | 
Croatia bert0
although i would hate for anyone, especially JaCKz to get kicked, i gotta agree that he will be one of the oldest players in a few years, therefore he'll need to get benched in a short amount of time...
2021-10-17 17:52
-nexa +awper amanek IGL
2021-10-17 18:10
For TLDR mens: - boomer JaCkz + good AWPer is the only 200 IQ roster move
2021-10-17 18:13
1 reply
8/8
2021-10-17 19:00
stoped reading at "NiKo - Entry"
2021-10-17 18:14
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2021-10-17 19:00
#97
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United Kingdom LeMonkke
Torzsi more likely to go to mouz main team, but I do completely agree with you, an option imo could be broky if G2 can buy him off faze
2021-10-17 19:11
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crap I missed broky, my bad. Yeah he'd be an amazing option too.
2021-10-17 19:41
NiKo is not anchor at all and never been. Their anchor is nexa
2021-10-17 19:37
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2021-10-17 19:43
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Stopped reading at he's playing at anchor positions like mirage conn. Lol? Anchor spots in mirage is a site and b site
2021-10-17 19:45
2 replies
my bad, but he could play the same positions as JaCkz, right? iirc JaCkz anchors B apts.
2021-10-17 19:47
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why would he? it's low action spot. Anyway, either amanek or nexa could do it no problem if that's the case. I like Jackz though but agree he does not really fit if NiKo wants to entry for long term. I like Vitality's model with how their second awp plays short on mirage and it's hunter there.. so he could be an good option for anchor but obviously it's not for us to decide anything but we'll see something because of underperfoming they going through right now
2021-10-17 19:53
Nah, NiKo is too good to be an entry, he has more impact to the team the more he stays alive. JaCkz is easily one of the best entries. People don't realize that an entry fragger is more like a support role, both NiKo and hunter are excellent riflers and i think with the current roster they are finding the space to make plays and develop as payers. People start this discussion every single time G2 loses a match, kinda geting repetitive. As per the awper situation, Amanek is insanely versatile and manages to find impact in other ways, i don't think every team needs a flashy awper. We need to take into account all the changes this team went through and then it's easier to understand why they may struggle to adapt to their new situation, asking to cut heads avery time they lose doesn't help
2021-10-17 19:51
Awper = 9z try
2021-10-17 19:58
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