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Your PGL Major team success criteria?
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Denmark WeAlsoHaveLEGO 
If your fav team made it to the PGL Major what result would make you satisfied with your teams performance/result there? For me it's Astralis making it top 8. If they do that they have delivered on my expectations for them as a team. Anything further would be great and very exciting.
2021-10-18 19:55
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#1
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Finland DTeeVee
Top 4
2021-10-18 19:55
12 replies
just do rematch
2021-10-18 20:32
11 replies
hahahahah rematch hahaha so funny
2021-10-18 21:55
3 replies
flag
2021-10-18 22:02
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? Reply needs to have actual content
2021-10-19 09:54
#141
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Sweden EntonXD
Thank you based polish guy thought you would troll too when i saw the flag
2021-10-19 10:15
20% packet loss omegalul
2021-10-18 22:23
5 replies
atleast get the percentage right if you are going to joke about it
2021-10-18 22:41
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hey flashpoint me dev1ce me wants rematch me packet loss very bad bs polish server me think rematch is great bcz we have 2nd chance to win this t3 team that could beat us once this year great decision flashpoint very thank you
2021-10-18 22:44
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lmao, how can people STILL be butthurt about this
2021-10-19 06:53
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hey me device XD me rematch coz goat sn1per XD me has packet loss even tho topfragging
2021-10-19 09:59
#143
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Sweden Lagge15
Because it impacted the invite slots for IEM Fail and impacted the seeding and possibly the teams who qualified for the Major. It was made because Flashpoint didn't have the same leway with CSPPA and Valve as IEM Fall, but that will just be overlooked by the fans. One team got to play tipple-elimination while all other teams had to play double-elimination
2021-10-19 10:31
xaxaxaxa
2021-10-18 22:39
A map win
2021-10-18 19:56
#3
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United States Magma_44
top1
2021-10-18 19:56
s1mple gets the major that is like worth 4 with the amount he missed due to online era
2021-10-18 19:56
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I’d say max 2. The prize pool isn’t large enough to count for 4.
2021-10-18 21:55
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we missed 3 majors and this finally is the first one in 2020/21. prize pool doesnt really matter. 2mil is still the biggest in cs history I think anyways.
2021-10-18 22:16
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Yes, but it’s not like 1 of the majors that Astralis won is worth more than 1 that Fnatic or NIP won. Back then we had 3 majors a year, now we have 2. A major is still a major no matter how much time has passed between them.
2021-10-18 22:22
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actually if anything what AST did is more impressive because Fnatic had way more chances to win majors rather than AST having to be on point over 2 years of cs rather than Fnatic for only 1 year + change. Every major is not 'born' equally.
2021-10-18 22:30
Vitality/Navi winning the major. Gambit making semifinals atleast.
2021-10-18 19:58
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United Kingdom Bern1e
gambit wont make semis
2021-10-18 19:59
8 replies
Lol, I know. Gambit will win the major.
2021-10-18 19:59
7 replies
Wouldn't they need to make it to the semis in order to win the major
2021-10-18 20:01
2 replies
they are getting a direct invite to major final obviously
2021-10-18 20:09
1 reply
Ah yes
2021-10-18 20:10
#16
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United Kingdom Bern1e
I highly doubt that, they were an online success but theyre way to young to handle the pressure of a major
2021-10-18 20:02
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I guess we'll see, i am not a hardcore fan of any team. I just like to support up and coming players, supporting their teams is secondary to that.
2021-10-18 20:06
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Cool i feel the same, but i have been listening to the comms of gambit's matches during the online era and I noticed that a lot of mid round calls and end round positons were proposed to them by groove, as it was online he could speak with them during the game itself without needing timeouts. but now on Lan the coach can speak with the team only during the timeouts, so many of the decisions have to be taken by nafany himself, he does have sh1ro too who is imo a secondary caller on dust 2 and overpass, but it will be tough without groove's intuition during mid round calls with them. we saw this happening with them during IEM Cologne when they were facing FAZE on Ancient. They could have Easil;y closed it out on T side, but many hasty and hesistant decisions were made by nafany and co and thats what bringing them down. so likely i would say nafany is not ready right now to lead a team to no.1 on lan. thats why i feel this major Gambit May not Win, and that's Navi's best chance to grab as they struggle against Gambit a lot
2021-10-18 20:24
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I also watched the comms video but i saw that it was mostly nafany and hobbit doing calls. I don't know, Groove wasn't speaking as much.
2021-10-18 20:25
No gambit in semis trust me
2021-10-18 22:51
#6
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United Kingdom Bern1e
I expect the final 4 to be Astralis, Navi, G2 and Faze. All other teams will crumble under the pressure. Also most teams attending just suck rn. NIP; no chance , Gambit; onliners, Vitality; trash unless zywoo carries them. No other teams are even noteworthy, except maybe BIG might suprise us.
2021-10-18 19:58
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G0-2 and Choke clan lol
2021-10-18 20:02
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nt flag
2021-10-18 22:18
Shouldn't Liquid be on your list by the criteria you pointed?
2021-10-18 20:14
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yeah tbh liquid > big on lan.
2021-10-18 22:47
#134
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France t3r4byt3
You really went ahead and picked 3 teams who might not even make it to the playoffs lol; Astralis, G2, FaZe top 4 my ass
2021-10-19 06:48
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#162
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United Kingdom Bern1e
the only other team i can see making top 4 is vitality, but its just dependant on zywoo.
2021-10-19 20:59
+1 except G2
2021-10-19 10:06
finals
2021-10-18 19:58
#8
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Chile StfanoLELE
To win the whole tourney, tbh I would be disappointed with any other result
2021-10-18 19:59
1 reply
+1
2021-10-18 20:12
Tyloo making it to the legend stage would be a huge success, but it will be very difficult. If they go 2-3 I will be satisfied though, everyone expects them to 0-3 or 1-3 right now
2021-10-18 19:59
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#133
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Bulgaria Bulg1us
+1
2021-10-19 06:48
Complexity isn't at the major lol G2 I would be disappointed if they don't make it to the playoffs
2021-10-18 20:00
With NAVI only a win is a satisfying performance tbh
2021-10-18 20:00
g2 top 1 but that is like 5% chance :(
2021-10-18 20:01
only Top1 is an acceptable result tbh
2021-10-18 20:05
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unlucky
2021-10-18 20:06
Liquid - Top 4, Top 8 still ok Furia - Playoffs, 9-11th still not bad Godsent - Top 14, at least Legends Stage Pain - no 0-3 Sharks - no 0-3
2021-10-18 20:06
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Looks like some expectations that could be fullfilled. Gl
2021-10-18 21:12
#98
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Brazil Anarchybr
Based Depending on their quarter-finals game, I would be okay with just a top 8 finish from TL (for example a match against NAVI where they lost 2-1 and the last map being a 16-12+).
2021-10-18 22:32
win
2021-10-18 20:06
2 replies
unlucky
2021-10-18 20:07
1 reply
*lucky
2021-10-18 20:07
if they actually make it to legends stage
2021-10-18 20:07
Making it to the legends stage lmao Idk if it's even possible rn
2021-10-18 20:08
I would be happy as long as s0mple_0_majors
2021-10-18 20:08
3 replies
+1
2021-10-18 21:56
Must be sad being a G0-2 & Ch0ko fan nowadays that you've decided to talk shit on other players/teams
2021-10-19 18:45
#169
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Australia mrekk
+1
2021-10-20 00:06
#32
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Netherlands Sem0733
Top 8. Zero expectations.
2021-10-18 20:09
NiP i want to make to at least top 4 for the home crowd NaVi need to make this final, its the best chance they've had in a while Vitality should aim for top 4 Gambit should be happy with top 8 but top 4 is doable Astralis should be happy with top 8 but even a win is doable if Lucky shows up G2 should aim for top 4, they are completely capable of it FaZe should aim for top 8, maybe top 4 if their LAN form is on point Heroic could make top 8 and can make it further Rest I don't really care
2021-10-18 20:09
4 replies
Your expectations for G2 is a bit high when thinking about their recent form, but otherwise pretty realistic expectations
2021-10-18 21:09
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They have started at 4th place on LAN, then were 2nd, I think top 4 at major is possible
2021-10-18 21:10
2 replies
Tbh, I don't expect them to go in top 8 (unfortunately)
2021-10-18 21:14
1 reply
yeah, i think it would be good for the scene for the big orgs to get far in the groups though.
2021-10-18 21:15
#34
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Finland byrbyl
My team didn't make it
2021-10-18 20:10
G2 will make the run of their life and fluke this major
2021-10-18 20:10
4 replies
G2 will make the run of thwir life only to come in second again xD
2021-10-18 22:17
3 replies
Mannnn ((((((((
2021-10-18 22:24
#130
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Australia z3ro_
The pain
2021-10-19 06:41
#173
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
Nononono my friend. As the great Carlos Said, mathematicaly, if G2 get's to the finals with NaVi, they got 3-0ed 2 Times already, which means that, mathematicaly, something else should happen, i.e G2 win. Thanks for listening to my TED TALK
2021-10-20 00:12
Liquid: Semi Finals Furia: Playoffs GODSENT: Legends stage Pain: 2-3 Sharks: 1-3
2021-10-18 20:13
#39
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Peru tosta
top 8 honestly
2021-10-18 20:13
Making playoffs of any tournament is usually considered the minimum success each team strives to achieve Of course winning the main tournament is the goal, but making playoffs is viewed as a success of making it far no matter the further outcome So yeah, top 8 basically for any team except for Navi who are looking to win it all
2021-10-18 20:16
ence top 8
2021-10-18 20:17
Astralis will win
2021-10-18 20:18
#47
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Finland Emvi
Im happy supporting havu even if they didnt make it in. As long as they fight 100% and keep trying to improve. Hopefully havu stickers next time
2021-10-18 20:37
NaVi - Final NIP - Top 5
2021-10-18 20:38
1 reply
Sounds realistic. Gl
2021-10-18 20:45
#50
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CIS elefiveS
VP at least semis
2021-10-18 20:48
3 replies
max playoff tbh ;(
2021-10-18 22:38
2 replies
Semis would be good with SANJI but I strongly believe Jame has something up on his adidas sleeve that will allow them to at least win semis
2021-10-19 01:13
#145
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CIS elefiveS
believe in jesus
2021-10-19 13:48
#51
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Poland Roxin
ENCE - Top 8 Navi - win Liquid - Top 8 EG - not get 0-3ed
2021-10-18 20:49
#52
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United States charybids
FURIA - Top 8 MOUZ - Top 8
2021-10-18 20:53
3 replies
If that is what you expect from these teams, you might be disappointed
2021-10-18 20:58
1 reply
will*
2021-10-18 22:17
furia will get to top 4, trust me
2021-10-18 22:25
#54
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Albania JonZherka
Winning it
2021-10-18 20:59
#58
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Bulgaria Bulg1us
BIG - I would be happy as long as they get to legend stage
2021-10-18 21:13
what is the difference btw contender and challenger? I see that they are playing in the same group stage. Isn't there no additional qualifier for contender to become challenger or something?
2021-10-18 21:16
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No, it's about seeding only, I think
2021-10-18 21:17
Challenger more money
2021-10-18 22:18
BIG better win or I'll poop my pants
2021-10-18 21:18
G2 should at least make top 8 and ideally top 4 . But even if they do make top 4 or even the final i still think they will make changes after this major
2021-10-18 21:23
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For sure there are gonna be changes made (desperately need an AWPer for huNter and NiKo to work off of), but I'm really hoping they at least make it to top 8, I'd be ecstatic with top 4, and I think I'd shit myself if they get to the finals, but I honestly don't think it'll happen.
2021-10-19 01:30
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#132
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Australia z3ro_
I mean getting to the finals could actually be more possible than you think. They did get to finals in cologne, and they have lots of potential. But looking at their more recent form I'm not really sure.
2021-10-19 06:45
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Exactly, if amanek shows the form he was in before the player break, hunter keeps up his form from IEM Fall (he looked almost unstoppable at times), and niko does niko things there's every possibility that they make finals, and I'd fucking love that. I'm just not sure it can happen either.
2021-10-20 16:22
#172
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
Idk if getting the finals is that Impossible. If they play like they are now, it is, but if they time their peak to the major and perform very well they might do it
2021-10-20 00:10
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It definitely isn't impossible, If they can get the comms together and everyone plays at their fullest potential I'd have no doubts about them making finals. I just don't know if on currrent form they can y'know?
2021-10-20 16:27
It's silly to expect a victory at the main event of the last two years now, but it's been so long since I've seen cool and close games from the Swedes in the playoffs. I saw how the old line-up still beat the tsm line-up in Romania and Katowice; I saw how the CIS teams threw them out of the majors 16-2; I saw failures in the minors and the return of the line-up to legends. I didn't see that game with the Astralis in their last playoff and I will never see that lineup with Chris and Patrick, but I want to see that equal fight with the top teams in the Major playoffs again, even if the team loses
2021-10-18 21:31
G2 quarter Vitality quarter
2021-10-18 21:39
#67
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France Loutcho_Q
Vitality : top 1
2021-10-18 21:40
MR: Legend status
2021-10-18 21:42
Top 8 for G2/FaZe it the best and the most I'd ever expect.
2021-10-18 21:45
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#114
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Romania GreenZye
go to sleep
2021-10-19 01:09
#70
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Brazil POZETIVO
semis for vita
2021-10-18 21:48
#71
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Canada nikeewT
I would like to Renegades place top 16 but 2 wins would also be a solid result imo Id like to see at least 1 canadian place top 8 as well whether that be Twistzz, Stan, or Naf I doubt EG does much tho.
2021-10-18 21:53
I like all teams except Gambit and NiP 🙂 VP is also boring to watch if yekindar dies first
2021-10-18 21:59
Making top 4 or time to make changes, if amanek gets cut from g2 he would be a good replacement for kyojin I think. I don't really know anyone else we can get who is better than kyojin apart from amanek, I'd love to go international and get ropz
2021-10-18 22:02
2 replies
kyojin is the future amanek is the past
2021-10-18 22:13
1 reply
Just because a player is young and talented doesn't mean he will ever be good, its been 8 months he still makes the same mistakes he might never have the game sense to be a top pro hope he does because if he does grow a brain he can be a god with his mechanics
2021-10-19 18:40
:( sad
2021-10-18 22:12
Vitality 1st
2021-10-18 22:14
Vitality Top 4 Renegades Playoffs G2 Top 8 or -Amanek
2021-10-18 22:14
2 replies
#171
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
Renegades playoff would be crazy. Love that team, probably my second favourite team. Top8 is reason for a roster Change in G2. And odds are it Will be -Jakcz, not -Amanek
2021-10-20 00:08
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Either one of them for sure
2021-10-20 23:27
#82
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Other Bactuga
For me to be satisfied with NiP is top 4, i wouldnt be too mad with a top 8 if they lost to the winner
2021-10-18 22:15
vitality in semi finals, ence in playoffs
2021-10-18 22:18
#89
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Netherlands n3wH0p3
Winning it, nothing else. Playoffs isnt bad but anything other than winning it is not enough, not for us fans and not for the players. Theyre not there to place 4th or something, 1st or nothing. If they dont win it I would like to see a change with the roster, -olof being the most logical one, but we will have to wait and see
2021-10-18 22:19
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they are literally random. can show up and beat any team but could lose to a team like fiend easily
2021-10-18 22:52
4 replies
#146
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Netherlands n3wH0p3
That's why I said that I want to see a change if not winning it . I know that they aren't as consistent as they should be on paper. And that bo1 to fiend was a perfect example of it. I do think that a bo3 would have had a different outcome but they need to win against such opponents. So in short ,I know they're inconsistent and I hate it.
2021-10-19 14:19
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I think FaZe is perhaps the best example of international teams being behind national teams. Can show up for short bursts but never consistently
2021-10-19 15:52
#184
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El Salvador Bredalow
All we can hope for is a good t side and then we golden
2021-10-20 23:51
1 reply
#186
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Netherlands n3wH0p3
+1
2021-10-21 11:12
Vitality finals or failure That said Finals or failure also applies to G2, Navi, Gambit and Astralis
2021-10-18 22:20
6 replies
So there will be some big roster changes, hype
2021-10-19 18:43
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for g2 and vita yea no doubt, for Gambit astra or navi? I doubt it
2021-10-19 19:00
4 replies
astralis 100% roster move even if they win, they signed k0nfig
2021-10-19 21:20
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Yea I mean that no roster move because of not winning its not like astra would go oh no title, well out you go xyp and glaive. But yea the moves they will make will be made in spite of any major results
2021-10-19 21:22
#170
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
Vita doubt it. G2 surely. Others you are spot on my mate
2021-10-20 00:06
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I think vita is looking to contest top 1 right now and with Kyojin and ignoring last month or two Shoxie too (as a shox fan hurts to say) have been too inconsistent... I dont think they can give kyo much more time and shoxie well if he can keep the form, great but if he falls off again we have issues
2021-10-20 12:55
Mousesports, getting out of groups would be a succes.
2021-10-18 22:24
#96
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Serbia CoVRa
Win Go hard and prove yourselves or go home.
2021-10-18 22:29
Movistar Riders not last, and legend status would be just too good
2021-10-18 22:33
NaVi win Liquid top 4 EG get 0 wins
2021-10-18 22:41
Winning 1 match with bot chopper will be already an achievement Not last place is our goal
2021-10-18 22:44
#105
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France andyj
G2 top 4
2021-10-18 22:43
#108
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Estonia E$t0
faze
2021-10-18 22:49
FURIA top 4 (yeah you can laugh but i really believe that they can achieve something GREAT. with the likes of G2 struggling, gambit being 100% onliner and navi becoming a target of in depth analysis of their system based in s1mple, those three may fall short. NIP is a good team but tbh is not a big threat for furia, maybe if device shows up in lan it could be dangerous.. faze is literally random , may show up in lan but maybe not.) PAIN/GODSENT/SHARKS one of them going to the playoffs would be mindblowing
2021-10-18 22:50
3 replies
Enjoy that copium and enjoy going 0-3 in another major
2021-10-19 18:45
#168
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
Man, teams are struggling and whatnot, but G2 ain't loosing to Furia in a major, and same goes for FaZe and Vitality
2021-10-20 00:06
1 reply
G2 right now could lose to literally anyone sadly enough
2021-10-20 12:56
At least top4 so that i could actually watch a series of MOUZ play live. Ill be heading to the major to watch both semi finals and the final
2021-10-18 22:54
For me it's Liquid making it top 1. If they do that they have delivered on my expectations for them as a team. Anything further would be impossible because there's nothing beyond top 1. Maybe hack the tournament and become administrator? Haha
2021-10-18 22:56
#115
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Greece RedWinter
make top 16 and challenge the big teams
2021-10-19 01:09
FaZe-Top 8 NaVi-Win Astralis-Top 4 after beating NiP Liquid-Top 8 Furia - Top 12
2021-10-19 01:33
3 replies
Nice - I like
2021-10-19 02:05
Astra I doubt would consider top 4 a success, I think Astra is a title contender.
2021-10-20 12:56
#185
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El Salvador Bredalow
Faze- a good t side performance
2021-10-20 23:52
Win major
2021-10-19 01:38
#121
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Chile jotler
Movistar Riders is fine where they already are, although it would love to see them in legends stage Liquid in the semifinals or winning NaVi in the final at least Gambit in 8th Furia in 8th Astralis in 8th but I wouldn't be surprised to see them in the semi-finals
2021-10-19 04:45
Top 4 without rematch
2021-10-19 04:45
Entropiq, Pain, Godsent, Movistar, Sharks, and Spirit to go through to the Legends Stage. Furia to go top 4 or top 8. I'd like to see Renegades and Tyloo do good but that won't happen.
2021-10-19 05:00
#124
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Brazil Elakk
Top 4 for NiP, Top 8 for FURIA
2021-10-19 05:04
uh major win pretty much, anything else would be slightly underwhelming.
2021-10-19 05:05
#126
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Asia M@GNU5
top 8 for the flames and top 2 for g2 which is unlikely
2021-10-19 05:07
Top 2 or higher
2021-10-19 06:26
#129
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Israel Rea77y
Faze top 8 But I dream about top 1 every night
2021-10-19 06:27
Navi: Win the whole thing Astralis: Top 8 FaZe: Top 8 C'mon boys :D
2021-10-19 06:43
1 reply
<3
2021-10-19 18:24
Godsent and they will win the major. They don't play random cs
2021-10-19 06:53
#FaZeUP
2021-10-19 09:59
#142
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Sweden EntonXD
All i wanted was some nice brollan stickers. The round ball stickers are bad, wish he had berlin 2019 gold stickers. Hoping for nip to win, or faze bc i want karrigan to win one before retirement and to have olof win his 1st major eith another team. But a navi win would be satisfying too.
2021-10-19 10:20
Astralis: Top 8 with a chance to go further if Lucky performs. Raiders: I'd be happy if they make it to the playoffs
2021-10-19 10:47
#149
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Brazil Khart
Satisfied? Playoffs, what I really want? Semis Just imagine we're on semis aginst Na'vi getting 2-0'd XD would be so cool
2021-10-19 15:57
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furia 2-0'd navi not so long ago, lets dream!!
2021-10-20 00:57
playoffs
2021-10-19 15:58
#151
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Ukraine VoidWave
i'd be okay with top 4, but to be satisfied is only win
2021-10-19 16:00
Minimum - Quarters Ideally - Semi’s Want - Major win
2021-10-19 16:28
#153
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North America Yurkn
EG, winning one game, or at least showing some signs of hope
2021-10-19 16:31
1 reply
Fingers crossed
2021-10-19 16:42
Only way to be satisfied is a major win in NaVi's case For TYLOO, winning at least 2 games in Challengers Stage
2021-10-19 18:45
#165
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Denmark Mister_A
making it to legends stage
2021-10-19 21:28
This is Navi's major to lose, but FaZe Up! just wanna see rain and twistzz pop some heads
2021-10-19 23:57
1 reply
True about Na'Vi - I think almost all expect Na'Vi to take this title this time
2021-10-20 00:02
NaVi win or dont come home
2021-10-20 16:05
2 replies
+1
2021-10-20 16:07
1 reply
You look familiar in some way. Hmmm....
2021-10-21 15:17
Liquid 1nd GODSent 2nd Furia semi finals Pain playoffs
2021-10-20 23:42
#187
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Italy BOT_Jay
Quarterfinals
2021-10-21 11:15
I just want to see Liquid be eliminated by either Navi or Gambit and beat all the other's along the way.
2021-10-21 11:27
#189
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France Yougz
Top 4
2021-10-21 11:29
#190
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Ireland DaFlame
Liquid top 8, would love top 4 tho
2021-10-21 11:31
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