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Major dark horse
Xizt | 
United Kingdom Gh9st 
i think the dark hoses this major are CPH, Movistar Riders and Ence(as biggest one) these teams have potential to go really far like top 8 or top 4 maybe even top 2 somehow, but again they could be easily eliminated at group stage
2021-10-20 00:06
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ez 4 Spirit btw
2021-10-20 00:08
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#7
Xizt | 
United Kingdom Gh9st
2021-10-20 00:11
#10
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Finland Lindeni
I wish but they've been super poor recently
2021-10-20 00:12
7 replies
they just won the International nt
2021-10-20 00:13
6 replies
#26
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Japan Icebu
spirit will bomb out in the first stage, then probably bench the entire roster and sign navi or something. i doubt theyll do well this major
2021-10-20 00:30
3 replies
sign navi lmao
2021-10-20 00:43
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s0mple for 17mil and then the rest for 1mil
2021-10-20 00:49
#84
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United Kingdom DB_R20
international prize pool gang
2021-10-20 10:57
Their cs roster won ti? These guys are talented!
2021-10-20 10:45
1 reply
NICE SENSE OF HUMOR SAATANA
2021-10-20 12:07
cph and ence will make it as legends
2021-10-20 00:08
4 replies
What about Godsent?
2021-10-20 10:33
3 replies
all i can say is that god sent the wrong team
2021-10-20 17:26
2 replies
bro lmao
2021-10-21 04:22
#139
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Switzerland QujnneX
lmao
2021-10-21 09:52
#3
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Peru TheJuan
Mouz dark horse and liquid light horse
2021-10-20 00:08
Spirit
2021-10-20 00:08
4 replies
#6
Xizt | 
United Kingdom Gh9st
maybe but didnt they lose to some teams like entropiq and FPX even k23 recently?
2021-10-20 00:11
3 replies
If they would have won everyone, they couldn't be a dark horse
2021-10-20 00:38
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No... Dark horse means like Cloud9 back in Boston Major... they were placing top 4 consistent but no one thought they would actually win. Chosing a team that is losing to tier 2 teams is a complete and utter under dog run not even a dark horse at that point
2021-10-20 10:55
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dark horse - a candidate or competitor about whom little is known but who unexpectedly wins or succeeds. if cloud9 were consistently placing top 4th then they weren't a dark horse
2021-10-20 19:33
no
2021-10-20 00:10
3 replies
#8
Xizt | 
United Kingdom Gh9st
yes
2021-10-20 00:12
2 replies
mh maybe
2021-10-20 00:13
yesn't
2021-10-20 10:55
faze
2021-10-20 00:12
4 replies
#14
Xizt | 
United Kingdom Gh9st
faze are favourites to make it to at least quarters for me at least
2021-10-20 00:13
3 replies
Imagine if faze wins, carrygan could finally die in peace but then s0mple without a major so its win/lose situation both ways (((
2021-10-20 10:57
2 replies
+1
2021-10-20 19:33
ez, karrigan just go to NAVI
2021-10-21 03:52
#11
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Australia mrekk
GODSENT and pain
2021-10-20 00:12
4 replies
#22
Xizt | 
United Kingdom Gh9st
Godsent maybe they looking good recently but the only T1 team they played against was Liquid and they did win but they lost 3-0 to Furia who I don't know if I should consider T1,and Pain no they lose against every T1 team they play against
2021-10-20 00:19
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#37
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United States maidz4
>only played against one team i consider tier 1 and they won >lose against every t1 team they play against bruh
2021-10-20 00:51
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#40
Xizt | 
United Kingdom Gh9st
yea you just simplified my answer thanks
2021-10-20 01:06
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#63
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Latvia emzijs
furia not t1 nt try
2021-10-20 02:15
#12
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Finland Lindeni
ENCE are looking hella strong.
2021-10-20 00:12
7 replies
#17
Xizt | 
United Kingdom Gh9st
+1 a lot of good games recently, they looking for that 2019 run to repeat
2021-10-20 00:14
6 replies
Ence did just lose to lyngbyg vikings or whatever More important than that, Ence does seem to struggle badly against the best teams like navi in pro league and nip in rmr final. Which is not surprising, but it greatly halts their chances to make a playoff run-
2021-10-20 00:41
5 replies
well t2 games are much harder than t1 matches and then snappi said ence took a break after iem fall so no wonders they lost
2021-10-20 01:49
They just choked akcent vs nip if They would won ancient it would be 3:1 for ence
2021-10-20 10:56
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Well ancient is greatly ct-sided map, Nip got more than enough T rounds to win it. Just because Ence got to 14 first does not equal choke in a sense. More like Ence winning after their CT side would have been an anomaly in statistics.
2021-10-20 17:08
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they were up 13-7
2021-10-20 17:11
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Doesn't change the fact. Its very common for ct side to get 11-4 or 10-5 in ancient. There are as many rounds as there is to flatten out statistical anomalies, to lessen the random element. In any other map I would agree to call it a choke.
2021-10-20 17:25
entropiq
2021-10-20 00:13
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#18
Xizt | 
United Kingdom Gh9st
didnt they lose to 9z recently
2021-10-20 00:15
s1mple looks like a horse
2021-10-20 00:15
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#20
Xizt | 
United Kingdom Gh9st
s1mple hoping rn he doesn't choke this major, cuz lets be real navi heavy favorites
2021-10-20 00:16
2 replies
tbh i don't see anyone who can win navi except gambit. navi struggle with them from time to time. it's probably the worst possible opponent for them
2021-10-20 00:17
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The only good team NAVI can lose against is Gambit. Other than that, I d give CPH more chances to win them than Vita lol.
2021-10-20 02:26
I can agree on ENCE. CPH and MR got exposed in bo3, I can see ENCE squeaking into playoffs but not the other 2
2021-10-20 00:19
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#24
Xizt | 
United Kingdom Gh9st
yea i def see ence make the playoffs but anything can happen really lol maybe even Tylo makes it hahah
2021-10-20 00:22
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Tyloo is in such a bad spot having not scrimmed any EU team, I think they're gonna be faced with too many strats they won't have answers for, I doubt they'll pass challenger stage
2021-10-20 00:28
MR won against G2 and if they didn't throw ancient they would had won against NIP both in BO3
2021-10-20 00:47
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G2 had legend status, not much to play for anymore and they've been awful lately anyway, not really a statement win
2021-10-20 02:09
ENCE really impressed me in IEM Fall, but they kinda lost me when I watched them play IEM Winter Qualifiers
2021-10-20 00:36
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#64
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Latvia emzijs
its ok bro, u can lose once to god emi, but not 2 times in a row
2021-10-20 02:17
Astralis vs NIP final best rivalry right there
2021-10-20 00:37
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#39
Xizt | 
United Kingdom Gh9st
would be amazing
2021-10-20 01:05
Navi
2021-10-20 00:38
3 replies
#38
Xizt | 
United Kingdom Gh9st
they are favorites a dark horse is an underdog team who no one expects to win
2021-10-20 01:05
2 replies
i dont expect navi to win
2021-10-20 01:22
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flair
2021-10-20 10:59
only real darkhorses are BIG and Liquid. Two teams no one is expecting to make the finals BUT if they click , they easily can. Never doubt Syrson`s hacks.
2021-10-20 00:39
2 replies
loooooooool
2021-10-20 00:43
#41
Xizt | 
United Kingdom Gh9st
lol +1 nice joke
2021-10-20 01:07
#42
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Germany Surcal___
You need to be more active to be able to create new forum topics
2021-10-20 01:07
1 reply
#44
Xizt | 
United Kingdom Gh9st
??? that means you just simply need to post more comments what do you mean by this comment??
2021-10-20 01:13
white horse is brasils epic fail at major
2021-10-20 01:10
2 replies
#45
Xizt | 
United Kingdom Gh9st
flag checks out
2021-10-20 01:13
1 reply
sure does
2021-10-28 03:30
Astralis always
2021-10-20 01:20
2 replies
#50
Xizt | 
United Kingdom Gh9st
Never discriminate astralis they showed us before
2021-10-20 01:24
1 reply
+1
2021-10-20 01:47
Because of the fact this will be the largest LAN in two years, I think the clock will get turned back a bit in terms of who finds success. As much as these teams may be "dark horses", I think they may be vastly underestimated at the moment: - Liquid - FaZe - Astralis I find NaVi and Vitality to be clear favorites that can't be considered dark horses. However, these two, along with the 3 above, make up my list of favorites to win, because of the vast amount of big-LAN success among the players on each team. Dark horses for me that are truly "dark horses" in that I find them unlikely to win, but could see the possibility, are NIP, G2, Gambit, and VP. All four have looked inconsistent at best lately, and NIP/Gambit's wins at IEM Fall aren't enough to convince me that the youngsters will be able to handle a large crowd.
2021-10-20 01:37
#52
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Poland xMBTx
ENCE - favorite Navi - dark horse
2021-10-20 01:37
4 replies
You, brainless
2021-10-20 01:49
1 reply
#62
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Poland xMBTx
You, you were always on my mind
2021-10-20 02:10
+111
2021-10-20 01:49
+1
2021-10-21 04:01
Tyloo
2021-10-20 01:49
#59
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Australia opzy
Renegades make it to legends stage
2021-10-20 01:54
3 replies
+1 i hope so
2021-10-20 02:20
Renegades inferno looks solid, so if they can get to that map in the bo1s I reckon they have a solid shot
2021-10-21 09:42
#YTB
2021-10-21 09:49
CPH Flames, I predicted them to do good before the second RMR so imma stick with them! :P
2021-10-20 01:55
1 reply
good choice my friend!
2021-10-20 17:09
Entropiq imo, I really wouldn't call ENCE a darkhorse anymore, they have proved they can beat top teams and I think everyone expects to do rather well
2021-10-20 02:18
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For ENCE it depends a lot on the opponents they get. Teams who are great in Vertigo and Inferno will almost instantly win a map, but teams which permabans Vertigo are easier as ENCE is great in Ancient/Mirage/Nuke and most likely two of them would be played if we assume that other team permabans Vertigo. Even permaban is not necessary but I think that teams prefer to play Vertigo over those three maps if they are even decent in it. For example Heroic is great example of the teams which can be hard for ENCE based on map pool, they are good in both, Vertigo and Inferno
2021-10-20 10:41
wat talkin???? ence is favorit
2021-10-20 10:37
#70
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Georgia Megobari
Ence, BIG, Liquid, Virtus.Pro
2021-10-20 10:38
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#122
Xizt | 
United Kingdom Gh9st
Not sure abt Big they not looking good latley
2021-10-21 09:20
vp
2021-10-20 10:40
1 reply
#121
Xizt | 
United Kingdom Gh9st
maybe they not consistent tho
2021-10-21 09:19
#73
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Nepal sasukeee
Team spirit 😂😂😂😂
2021-10-20 10:42
#76
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Australia jd4ddy
Imagine Ence vs Navi semi finals rematch
2021-10-20 10:48
I would love to see them on semis or something, but I think their map pool is not enough strong to survive a lot of bo3 against T1 teams. They do have some strong maps where they can survive but weak on the rest, as long as top teams studied them a bit, they shouldn't advance a lot.
2021-10-20 10:51
Liquid
2021-10-20 10:52
9 replies
-1
2021-10-20 12:09
8 replies
-1
2021-10-20 13:05
7 replies
wym, youre saying liquid is dark horse, so the -1 is for u tho...
2021-10-20 14:46
6 replies
-1
2021-10-20 15:09
5 replies
reported
2021-10-20 18:34
4 replies
For what? Lmao You did -1 and I disagree with your take in disagreeing with me, because you didn't even give any explanation for your actions. Cry is free
2021-10-20 19:05
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i did -1 then u did too, i gave my opinion and u didnt, just keep -1 so yeah u got reported and you can also cry, bc its free
2021-10-20 21:00
2 replies
Lmao keep crying
2021-10-21 03:51
1 reply
u too :D
2021-10-21 10:21
I can see liquid "upsetting" and making it to finale. ENCE for dark horse run to semifinals.
2021-10-20 10:54
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#120
Xizt | 
United Kingdom Gh9st
yea could happen
2021-10-21 09:19
Renegades is dark horse imo
2021-10-20 10:56
2 replies
#119
Xizt | 
United Kingdom Gh9st
u sure bro? they not that good playing T1 teams
2021-10-21 09:18
1 reply
Beat OG 2-0 and took a map off prime Navi. That's all they've had in the last 3 months so idk how you can say they aren't good against T1
2021-10-21 09:43
Movistar 0-3 Cph 2-3 Real dark horse is VP
2021-10-20 15:12
#93
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Poland sosiad
to be honest, no chance for movistar
2021-10-20 15:15
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#124
Xizt | 
United Kingdom Gh9st
we will see anything can happen
2021-10-21 09:21
why? because of the 3 newcomers and limited big events experience?
2021-10-21 09:24
#94
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Russia klnv
thats kinda racist
2021-10-20 15:16
1 reply
#123
Xizt | 
United Kingdom Gh9st
????? what
2021-10-21 09:20
true dark horse shows himself during the tournament, not before
2021-10-20 15:17
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#118
Xizt | 
United Kingdom Gh9st
true
2021-10-21 09:18
Copenhagen Flames let's goooo
2021-10-20 17:08
#102
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Denmark Xipingu
This didn't let me down. I agree
2021-10-20 17:25
mouz
2021-10-20 19:31
1 reply
+1
2021-10-21 09:43
EZ4ENCE
2021-10-21 04:00
1. TL 2. Ence 3. G2 (not a semi-favorite but a dark horse since they've been playing like shit)
2021-10-21 04:04
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#125
Xizt | 
United Kingdom Gh9st
interesting could agree with the g2 take
2021-10-21 09:22
#127
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Norway Napapijri
teams need to kick out CPH from the major, these dogs are so strong. I dont wanna see them to beat some great teams in playoffs
2021-10-21 09:24
i think faze is a darke horse. if everyone playes to their potencial i can se them win, but Faze lack consistent so idk. i can allso se g2 choke rly hard. like not winning a single match.
2021-10-21 09:24
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#130
Xizt | 
United Kingdom Gh9st
faze is favorite to make it to playoffs in my opinion
2021-10-21 09:27
#129
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United Kingdom DB_R20
dark horses for the major: 1) Ence 2) Astralis 3) VP
2021-10-21 09:25
2 replies
#131
Xizt | 
United Kingdom Gh9st
Astralis is a strong team and i expect them to do good so technically i don't consider them a dark horse
2021-10-21 09:28
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#132
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United Kingdom DB_R20
I would consider them a dark horse from all the shit that happened over the last year. but fair, Ence and VP are still good dark horses for it :) Remember its a full LAN setting, ENCE is unproven, VP have shown before they can do it
2021-10-21 09:33
Liquid and erkaSt
2021-10-21 09:42
Ence major final again
2021-10-21 09:49
Ence you all will see
2021-10-21 09:52
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