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Hunden speaks to denmark news
SunPayus | 
Europe twitchy_ 
Google translator "- To put it mildly, a rewriting of the story, says 'THE DOG' Former Heroic coach Nicolai 'HUNDEN' Petersen, who had the case of cheating on the team resumed in September, also saw Heroic's video on Tuesday, and he recognizes far from everything that is said: - It is, to say the least, a rewriting of the story they have sent out. They contradict both themselves and ESIC's judgment several places in the video. First, they admit that they talked about it in a TeamSpeak conversation, which was recorded by one of the players himself (this has not been confirmed by TV 2 SPORT, ed.), Only to mention later in the video that they did not know anything about the case at all, writes 'THE DOG' to TV 2 SPORT and adds: - I do not recognize much of what they have got screwed together, but they deliver it nicely. They know very well that they each either participated in the exploitation of the bug, or knew it. They also know very well that they have hidden the truth and lied along the way, and both the players and the management of the new organization must have a hard time seeing themselves in the mirror. - For me, it has been about stopping the deception I myself was a part of, and telling the truth so that I and my family can move on. They (the Heroic players, ed.) Have to live with the certainty that someone will one day speak, but for me, what has to be said has been said. I'm sorry, I've been naive, and I'm sorry, I trusted people I tried to protect. It has been grueling and it would have been much easier just to shut up. But then I would have to be the one to live on a lie, and I no longer want to. I did what I could and stood alone against a big machine. I'm not sorry, but I need a break now, and I need to focus on my family and my children. In August, Nicolai 'THE DOG' Petersen was sentenced to two years' quarantine from Counter-Strike because he was found guilty of intending to share tactical information with others than his own team." sport.tv2.dk/e-sport/2021-10-19-efter-ka.. gg
2021-10-20 10:00
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Justice for Nicolai "THE DOG" Petersen
2021-10-20 10:05
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#55
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Spain Skolt
After watching the video I've been thinking about what was said and two things really made me scratch my head about ESIC's resolution. 1- Both Stavn and cadiaN admitted in said video that they knew about the use of the bug just after the first match where it was used finished. Their decision made no sense to me: they decided to shut up, don't report the bug use and didn't even consider kicking Hunden. 2- The second instance that bothered me was the boost in D2. They knew Hunden used the bug previously so I can't understand how they didn't think it was really odd to ask for a random boost out of nowhere, I didn't listen to the comms of that match so there may be nothing strange and Hunden never provided relevant information using the bug. I don't really understand how ESIC judged that they were totally innocent when they admitted to hiding the fact that they knew about their coach using the bug and they did nothing about it. How can you assume good faith on their actions when they hid the truth until the case exploded and they were forced to confess? I won't talk about Niko's involvement because I lack qualifications on that matter and I'll believe the professional judgement. I may be wrong, but I don't feel ESIC made the right decision in this case.
2021-10-20 20:07
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#62
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Brazil bruxo!
The player who did the boost allegedly did not know of the bug at the time, but I agree it is odd. I believe in them and ESIC tough.
2021-10-21 17:53
I also think Heroic player's should have been punished, perhaps similarly to niko. In HLTV confirmed with moses cadiaN joined and said that ESIC did not find legal grounds to punish them, because apparently you are not obliged to come up with evidence when you suspect someone on your team is cheating. In that same episode, someone asked if cadiaN thought he should be punished, to what he answered 'no', which shows that he doesn't really think he acted wrongly. I don't think they are lying, but that argument of "we made a mistake not coming across with it" is fake in my opinion. If that bug abuse had never seen the light of the day and HUNDEN kept abusing it, I don't think neither the players or the org would ever say anything.
2021-10-21 18:08
ESIC corrupted
2021-10-21 23:30
'THE DOG' LMAO
2021-10-21 23:57
#2
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Australia mrekk
Both sides deserve to be banned
2021-10-20 10:05
15 replies
Then also whole of gambit + coach? Then also the rest of the 37 coaches and teams?
2021-10-20 12:48
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#27
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Australia mrekk
Yes.
2021-10-20 15:28
no problem with that... please ban them all.
2021-10-20 15:37
5 replies
Then i can be pro, when all players better than me is banned ez major 2022 for me and my mm mix team
2021-10-20 15:39
3 replies
Very_nice_danish_guy_top1_2022.
2021-10-20 15:40
2 replies
+1 ez
2021-10-20 15:47
1 reply
GOD HELP ME AND I (very_nice_danish_guy) WON MEJOR
2021-10-21 18:09
Lol.. That would destroy the whole scene
2021-10-22 01:36
Only HUNDEN admitted the team knew and he didn't wanted to live with a lie, also ur flair
2021-10-21 23:30
5 replies
Only the team didn't admit that they didnt know. Your point? Nobody at this point t is very trustworthy.
2021-10-22 00:35
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You are not trustworthy as well
2021-10-22 00:40
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Then, it is settled. Heroic, hunded, me are not trustworthy. I just didn't like the pr of heroic and I'm agree with Moses : they should had a minor consequence of their action. They had a free out of jail card and 1 year to prepare that pr bullshit. Im tired of this scandal. I won't cheer for heroic, that's all.
2021-10-22 01:09
2 replies
#89!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2021-10-22 01:12
1 reply
I misunderstood your message. Basically, we say the same thing. Heroic are not heroic and hunden is a dog but a dog need a master.
2021-10-22 01:26
+1 I've been saying this from the beginning and I even was shouting at the community that Heroic are blatant cheaters
2021-10-20 16:49
#3
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Czech Republic Poloolpp
THE DOG
2021-10-20 10:05
#4
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Sweden sn1pie
Can this ass hole just stfu
2021-10-20 10:06
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#63
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Brazil bruxo!
I dont get what he gains from this, blackmail or something?
2021-10-21 17:54
6 replies
he just wants to say the truth
2021-10-21 18:03
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#69
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Brazil bruxo!
I still dont get if people saying this things are trolling or really supporting HUNDEN
2021-10-21 18:14
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#86
Xyp9x | 
Poland f3nce
this is really confusing but I must say to you that there are people here really supporting HUNDEN though :(
2021-10-21 23:59
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#107
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Brazil bruxo!
thats sad :(
2021-10-22 03:43
THE DOG is malding cus he completely fucked himself so now hes trying to bring everyone down out of spite
2021-10-22 02:01
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#108
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Brazil bruxo!
makes sense
2021-10-22 03:43
+1
2021-10-21 22:16
#5
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Poland xMBTx
Cheatroic
2021-10-20 10:06
#6
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Greece RedWinter
Does anyone seriously believe that the team had 0 knowledge of the bug or that for example TeSes boosted hunden for no reason 20 mins before the game? I mean they've proven they're a good team but all that drama is for PR purposes so Reddit sympathize with them
2021-10-20 11:39
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#9
syrsoN | 
Netherlands EFR89
In the warmup you just mess around usually. So yea, boosting a player could be easily explained by having fun with your team or trying some stuff.
2021-10-20 11:49
1 reply
+1
2021-10-20 16:00
it is likely that hunden tried to not be suspicious to his own teammates
2021-10-20 11:50
I am for forgiveness, but I am not for ignoring their involvement in the bug. so yes, they cheated, yes they're young and they were manipulated by a leading figure in danish CS, and yes there should be no sanction because of those factors, but that doesnt mean they WERENT GUILTY
2021-10-20 11:52
hes been the coach, could have tested a new spot e.g. for a flash or whatnot. i find this the least suspicious thing in the whole story
2021-10-20 11:54
They do because they didn't even check the report or the videos out there. Tell me why somebody will boost his coach here, in the middle of nowhere on Dust mid? You can try to do a run boost on long or short to practise before the match (there's practise servers, you don't do that on the official one 20minutes before), but this... youtube.com/watch?v=yaoShWnetb0
2021-10-20 12:22
Do you need to do a boost for bug to work?
2021-10-20 12:45
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I think nobody said directly how you can make the bug work, but in theory happens if you die or you jump (you need to do a boost to get at that height) where a "spectator" camera exist, so you need to know where they are and you need the help of someone to get boosted there. Then, there's another one where you could get to higher cameras and the requisit was to enter before anyone, so you can move to different positions and when the players get in and you are moved to coach spot, you get that camera instead than the players 1-5 keyboard ones. In theory there was a third bug that was "random" or hard to replicate, but not sure if they finally fixed or what, at least that's what michau said back then.
2021-10-20 15:44
Yes. It is not like everything is a conspiracy.
2021-10-20 16:01
1 reply
flag checks out
2021-10-21 18:04
#7
SPUNJ | 
Europe Pts
someone's gotta be the scapegoat... poor guy
2021-10-20 11:44
2 replies
I'm actually feeling bad for him
2021-10-21 23:31
1 reply
Still a cheater
2021-10-22 01:34
THE DOG
2021-10-20 11:48
2 replies
THE GOD*
2021-10-20 12:25
1 reply
THE GOAT*
2021-10-21 23:32
Scumbag. Wtf do they give him more opportunities to lie in public. Ignore the psycho and move on.
2021-10-20 11:50
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danes cant even accept that all heroic players are cheating scumbags
2021-10-20 12:02
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because it hasn't been proved muhammed
2021-10-20 12:04
3 replies
me no muslim
2021-10-20 12:08
#21
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Norway jatakk
Being muslim = very Haram!☝️☝️☝️
2021-10-20 12:29
1 reply
LMAO
2021-10-21 23:33
That is TV2 for you, if they can do something that give them clicks they will.
2021-10-20 16:02
If we read "the dog" vice versa it will be "god" which means hunden planned this all along just to destroy real evil cheaters and the most corrupted organization esic
2021-10-20 11:53
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Too bad ESIC corrupted and these players are sausages (harmful insult to not get banned by Jonathan E.)
2021-10-21 23:34
The fact that you use "the dog" makes your google translation questionable, as you have clearly have a bias against hunden so I suggest everyone who gives a shit to do their own google translation of the text
2021-10-20 12:24
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wdym, 'the dog' its the direct translation of 'hunden', ofc google translate will translate it like that, it doesnt realize its a nickname
2021-10-20 15:41
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I know, I just assumed that you called him a dog, my bad
2021-10-20 15:53
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ah ok np bro
2021-10-20 16:04
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2021-10-21 17:51
I would agree with Stavn I think who said that Hunden sees himself as a victim who is fighting against the whole world. It was his own decision to use the bug and without him it couldnt happen since its a COACH bug, and thats why he is the person to blame in the first place
2021-10-20 12:36
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#28
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Australia mrekk
Not like they didn't take advantage of it tho
2021-10-20 15:31
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Yeah I agree, even if they didn't know during both cases which I believe could be, they had to adress it to ESIC or Volvo after But hunden is just mentally ill i guess if he somehow sees this situation as him being innocent and bullied by heroic players
2021-10-20 15:38
he is scum who deserved the ban but the rest of heroic should have been sent down with him
2021-10-20 12:47
#26
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Norway Muzz3912
its tough out there i see
2021-10-20 12:51
#30
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Norway thojo
"I trusted people I tried to protect." protect who?? did he not go all out??
2021-10-20 15:36
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And he tried to manipulate niko into incriminating himself on a phone call that hunden secretly recorded. How can this scum even live with himself
2021-10-20 16:10
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#49
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Norway thojo
he deffo going into panic mode, and he has probably even started to lie to himself
2021-10-20 16:35
on one side I can't believe anything THE DOG says, on the other hand there is no way heroic players did not know...
2021-10-20 15:41
#38
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Other simon_
THE DOG
2021-10-20 15:48
I believe Hunden
2021-10-20 16:01
I'm danish and this article is REALLY subpar. I wouldn't really trust anything it says and even more so when processed through Google Translator. The quality is of a low standard and elements have been twisted to increase sensation. The article contradicts itself, especially low quality.
2021-10-20 17:19
#53
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Finland KieZuZ
Who let the dog out?
2021-10-20 17:28
1 reply
I did :)
2021-10-20 20:14
EZ 4 THE DOG
2021-10-20 20:14
dogs are Hunde in german i have to say more?
2021-10-21 17:49
2 replies
and dog is hunden in danish, did you think you were making a point? thats the gamertag he chose lol
2021-10-21 18:20
1 reply
thats even more worse :D
2021-10-21 18:40
“The dog” willa lways be funny kkkkkkkkkk
2021-10-21 17:50
#64
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Russia Trueteller
when a convicted criminal snitches on his former partners, the justice system usually takes that with a grain of salt it's usually just a way to shift blame, and why would you automatically trust a confirmed cheater/liar over his alleged partners in crime who has no history of lying this is a case of innocent until proven guilty, and hunden is the only one they can know for sure, without reasonable doubt, actually cheated
2021-10-21 18:00
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Because the partners of crime told nobody knew and finally, niko knew. So, they lied just there. Anyway esic cleared them. It doesn't that they didnt knew, it just esic didn't find the evidence enough convincing. And usually, the police does their own investigation while esic asked a third party to do it for themselves, which is odd as fuck.
2021-10-22 01:42
TL.DR Cheating Heroic mistreated their DOG who took the bullet for all of them It's ok to cheat if you can have a scapegoat for the blame
2021-10-21 23:22
1 reply
+1
2021-10-21 23:54
#75
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Sweden EntonXD
is there anyone that supports or trusts what a known liar says?
2021-10-21 23:25
#FREEHUNDEN all cheaters are equal
2021-10-21 23:26
1 reply
+1 aimbot = coach bug
2021-10-22 02:09
#85
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United Kingdom spxrkk
guys why are you pressed he used coach bug, he lost the game it had no significance, forgive and forget amen
2021-10-21 23:58
Heroic waited all this time to come out with that corny 30min video to save face. That full team knew what was going on.
2021-10-22 00:39
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Based
2021-10-22 01:21
Hunden did nothing wrong, have away his career and his self worth in order to expose the scummy org and players he was around but braindead Esic who got bought out by Heroic ruined his efforts. #JusticeForTheDog #BringBackHunden
2021-10-22 01:24
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#98
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United States burzeus
+1, i support hunden and believe in him
2021-10-22 01:45
1 reply
+1
2021-10-22 09:12
Haxroic, tbh i support hunden. He become the scapegoat so heroic's players won't be punished after their involvement in bug abuse but they kick him after for more justification for themselves. Their video even looks so fake, DRAMA QUEEN!
2021-10-22 01:49
#100
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France PP_Bizon
team isn't guilty, hunden is a bitch. end of story
2021-10-22 01:57
idk who is wrong or right there but hunden has grown up random lvl10 players like sjuush and roej to tier1-2 Also heroic were consistent top15 team through many years , when hunden joined they became consistent top5
2021-10-22 02:08
He keeps bringing up the bug issue everytime, he is trying to cover up the fact that he leaked the anti-strats material. Has he brought that up recently? Trying to play the victim card when you are the culprit is a ahole move. PS:- STOP calling him dog, Dogs are loyal unlike him.
2021-10-22 02:19
It's so obvious what happened in the case, and it was obvious that this would be the fallout all along. ESIC has shown that they know that they're managing a business which is too fragile. Had there been any justice, the full Heroic team would've been swept, no questions asked. To all the mens) on the site, how fast can you tell something is wrong, when you're playing with/against cheaters? Amplify that spidersense by 10-25x, and then imagine that you would've had to play with a cheater for months, with it going unnoticed? It's literally impossible, and the fact that they claim they didn't know has to be wrong for the very obvious reason. TeSeS joins a server to boost HUNDEN mid, because "that's something a lot of teams do" or whatever he wrote it off as. "Sure" buddy, it's completely fucking normal to join a server 20 minutes before the match, and then just "test out cool towers" in the middle, in a position you absolutely do not use for anything but the coaching bug. The whole idea that a coach would've just decided to stay at the bugged position, instead of actually swap between his players and coach them, without them using it to get an advantage is a retarded idea, and a completely fucking washed up premise. They make a video, of 3 dudes sitting in a sofa crying because they got caught cheating. They couldn't get their story straight. The only one that got punished is the only one they could create a protective alibi for. I wonder why CS:GO is losing steam, I really do.
2021-10-22 02:47
shutup tv2
2021-10-22 02:48
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