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Russia DELUSIONAL_NA_FAN 
>Left csgo cuz he was unwanted and joined valorant with booming NA scene >Unwanted in valulrant >Playing in NA MDL cuz both scenes didn't want him The fact that ES had to pick a 2nd hand NA player just shows how dead the scene is tbh
2021-10-21 20:23
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He didn't leave csgo because he was unwanted he was just signed to cloud9 and they moved him to valorant
2021-10-21 20:24
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Because he was bad at cs If he was any decent he wouldn't have needed to move
2021-10-21 20:25
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Good enough for some EU tier 3 team but he's not gonna move for that and NA scene is dead
2021-10-21 20:26
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France Loutcho_Q
they benched everybody in the csgo lineup, no point with floppy nt
2021-10-21 20:27
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The only other person who moved to valorant was another NA player I smell a trend
2021-10-21 20:27
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France Loutcho_Q
xebbot ?
2021-10-21 20:28
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Both of them were from America It's almost as if Americans have a tendency to move to valorant instead of grinding to get better if they're shit at CS
2021-10-21 20:29
Literally only good player on c9
2021-10-21 20:46
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He got carried by es3tag, alex, and mezii lmao
2021-10-21 20:47
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es3tag alex LMAO YOU ARE DELUSIONAL
2021-10-21 20:48
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You're the one who thinks that floppy was ever good
2021-10-21 20:48
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Japan ShinjiIkari
nice one peine
2021-10-21 20:27
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Who
2021-10-21 20:27
Some of the money going into the Valorant scene now is capital that would have gone into CSGO. Players follow where they can apply their skills and get paid, because they are professionals. I very much doubt that the majority of the players that left this game would have left at all if they were supported HLTV clutches pearls too much
2021-10-21 20:28
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If they were good they would've been supported
2021-10-21 20:29
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No. Investment and org interest in the NA scene has completely collapsed
2021-10-21 20:31
There are reasons why the scene is where it is now though. The biggest problems within the NA scene were always the players within the scene. More players cared more about money, egos, and reputation rather than focusing on winning. Imagine if more players in a scene cared more about that and how different it would be if it was that way. The same problems in NA CS will happen in NA VAL because it’s the same group of players. You can already see it with TSM. NA had their chances with orgs time and time again where players got a chance and teams failed to produce results time and time again. Val is just the current trend, latest fad. The bubble wont last forever. I want NA to do good obviously being from NA. But at the same time you got to recognize why it is in the current state it is in now. Covid currently didn’t help either.
2021-10-21 20:43
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You have a great point in it going both ways, with the players sharing equal responsibility for the success of the franchise. Envy and CoL tried to do tier 2 team investment prior to covid, drawing from NA playerbase but the results under the rosters were ultimately lackluster
2021-10-21 20:57
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There was envy, col, gen g, 100t, and like one other team. 100t got fucked with Covid being an all Australian team trying to base in LA and with Covid it just wasn’t gonna happen. Gen g got fucked when S0m left which screwed over koosta autimatic and Betnet. Envy and col just yeah didn’t work at all. Chaos was the one team that was really good that deserved to be signed but with Covid it just wasn’t the time and they all left. Hopefully c9 returns soon. They said they would when LANs return. It just all really comes to the players though. Orgs can invest all they want but if they don’t produce results, they will leave. Players then complain there is no opportunity in NA and it’s like yeah no shit. You guys over welcomed your stay. I think NA league is the same way. All the “NA” teams are just imports from Europe and Asia. I could keep going on but yeah. You get my point.
2021-10-21 22:32
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Spain Firefly_
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2021-10-21 20:47
bump
2021-10-21 21:16
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