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Most underrated player
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Portugal W!LDF1RE 
Who do you think is the most underrated player, or just a very underrated player? I'll rate if I think he is underrated or not
2021-10-23 10:59
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whole of ence, individually.
2021-10-23 11:00
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#5
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
Yeah Ence players are all very good individuals. Hades is fairly rated now Imo though
2021-10-23 11:01
I feel like they came out of nowhere? Were they big in the T2 EU scene before this Ence project?
2021-10-24 07:03
+111 especially Snappi as an IGL. He has really improved.
2021-10-24 19:24
I dont think they are "underrated" thers just not much proof of them being tier 1. sure, they have been improving alot lately and literally everyone knows that they are on the rise again
2021-10-24 19:29
KYOSHIMA
2021-10-23 11:00
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#7
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
Yeah, he was a great support, but was so underestimated
2021-10-23 11:02
+1 though I guess most of the hate towards him came from teammates who said his personality/work ethic wasn't the greatest
2021-10-23 17:17
#118
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CIS Tamoka
+1
2021-10-24 09:56
spinx
2021-10-23 11:01
1 reply
#9
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
+1 Spinx only started to get attention now, but he was cracked long ago
2021-10-23 11:02
#4
B1T | 
Ukraine devitt
b1t
2021-10-23 11:01
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ngl, he is getting a bit overrated. Hopefully, it doesn't get into his head
2021-10-23 11:02
#11
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
A few months ago I'd agree but now he got very overrated because of the hs%
2021-10-23 11:03
now he is getting recognition but i'd agree it's still somewhat true, because of him navi are more consistant than ever
2021-10-23 11:22
b1t is nowhere near underrated nowadays lol...
2021-10-23 11:54
maybe 6 months ago
2021-10-23 14:18
sjuush Misuutaa roeJ jabbi KSCERATO
2021-10-23 11:01
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#13
B1T | 
Spain ^Top1
+1 agree wwow jabbi god
2021-10-23 11:04
#14
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
+1111 great picks. Kscerato especially, dude been fucked with this furia iteration, but he is probably the best Brazilian player atm
2021-10-23 11:04
3 replies
HEN1 destroyed FURIA, they would easily be a soild top3 team. This dude always doing this for his stupid brother
2021-10-23 11:05
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#92
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Croatia Mikylm
+1
2021-10-23 16:30
+1
2021-10-24 00:56
misuutaa top 8 rifler rn
2021-10-23 12:41
KSCERATO best player of Furia hands down ! I would have added Yuurih but I feel like he steped down after Hen1 departure
2021-10-23 13:07
#10
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Turkey sedo7
b1t
2021-10-23 11:02
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#16
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
2021-10-23 11:04
3 replies
#20
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Turkey sedo7
what? he has %64 last 3 months, wdym?
2021-10-23 11:06
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#28
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
Só what, that's a missleading stat, he isn't as good of an aimer like Ropz, NiKo or Twistzz as people make him out to be. He is a great support, was very underrated on NaVi junior, but he isn't the aim prodigy ppl make out to be
2021-10-23 11:10
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#62
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Turkey sedo7
doesn't matter he improved a lot and still 18yo, his stats very good even when he has 2 superstars in his team, he would have 1.2 avg stats when he is the best player in any team but he is 3rd star right now.
2021-10-23 13:05
sixer
2021-10-23 11:03
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#17
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
-1 everybody knows sixer is a god
2021-10-23 11:05
#15
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Finland Eestu
- hampus Does a lot for his team and can even perform well individually. In general I think he is a very versatile and complete player and his calling also seems solid at least from outside looking in. - h4rn Again a very versatile player who is putting up good numbers even against better opponents even though he lacks experience. I think he has a lot of potential but doesn't get talked about that much. Here's two that quickly popped into my head after thinking for a bit. I'm not saying they are the most underrated players out there but definitely deserve to be mentioned if you ask me. :) I probably also forgot some really obvious ones but I'm sure someone else will mention them in this thread.
2021-10-23 11:04
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#21
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
H4rn is surely underrated, if now underrecognized. He's probably going to go on a good team in the near future. Hampus can be both underrated and overrated, but surely there is a large ammount of people who don't recognize his job in the team
2021-10-23 11:06
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#26
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Finland Eestu
I'm not surprised if he starts getting some offers from better teams soon, he really has been popping off lately and is a very capable AWPer who can also rifle at a good level. I get what you mean. Some people who can recognize all the things he does for the team praise him to the moon and back but it also seems like the vast majority doesn't realize how much he does for the team alongside putting up good numbers while calling.
2021-10-23 11:09
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#30
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
+1 but I don't think Hampus is a great caller. A good one sure, but I'd say threat does a lot of the tac work. As an IGL he is One of the best at getting info and reacting accordingly, and that is a very unique skill of his
2021-10-23 11:12
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#35
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Finland Eestu
Calling could be better, I agree on that, but he has other strengths as an IGL which make him valuable to his team like the ones you mentioned. ^^
2021-10-23 11:14
h4rn is great, i forget him. REDSTAR is pretty good too
2021-10-23 11:07
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#31
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Finland Eestu
Indeed! It's also very nice to see REDSTAR being able to adapt to his role as a hybrid player from a main AWPer. Being versatile is a very underrated skill for most pros.
2021-10-23 11:12
I disagree with hampus there’s some definite recency bias there. He’s had one or two good tournaments recently but been quite underwhelming for the rest of the year. It’s fine because he’s the igl but he’s not some top tier fragging igl that he’s bigged up to be.
2021-10-23 11:21
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#44
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
+1 and -1. That's the overrated aspect all of NIP are getting. He is clearly being very overrated by a lot of people, just like NIP are. Both Hampus and NIP aren't top5 material. But surely Hampus is very underrated in what he does by some people, and was very overrated before
2021-10-23 11:23
#47
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Finland Eestu
It's just more noticeable now that NiP is ranked top 2, but I'd argue he was just as good a couple of months ago. It's just hard to have good stats when the whole team is playing bad and it seemed like even device was in a small slump. Obviously now that everyone seems to be in a good mindset things actually look smoother and better in general but hampus as an individual hasn't changed that much in the past months.
2021-10-23 11:30
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You have to take RMR event results with a pinch of salt though, they do have a high calibre of attending teams but its essentially a qualifier with a very low prize pool. This means its not that competitive, so Im not going to say hampus is a fantastic igl because he had one good tournament in what isnt even a t1 event for me. Lets see though, maybe nip have pieced it together and will have a good run at the major, I would like to see that, Im just not fully on the nip hype train yet.
2021-10-23 11:43
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#50
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Finland Eestu
Understandable reasoning. :) Although we have slightly different visions I can still see where you are coming from. Have a nice day, friend. ^^
2021-10-23 11:46
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Enjoy your weekend boss!
2021-10-23 11:52
h4rn
2021-10-23 11:05
1 reply
#22
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
+1 #21 if you want full response
2021-10-23 11:07
hampus7pc
2021-10-23 11:07
1 reply
#34
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
+1 #30 #21 if you want full response
2021-10-23 11:13
#25
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Albania tanzania89
h4rn ,neofrag ,rigon ,roeJ ,deko
2021-10-23 11:09
1 reply
#32
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
Harn and Roej are very underrecognized. NEOFRAG is great but fairly rated. Rigon and Deko a lil bit overrated
2021-10-23 11:13
SunPayus
2021-10-23 11:10
4 replies
#33
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
Fairly rated by now
2021-10-23 11:13
2 replies
I've seen more grateful comments about other upcoming players on major qualifiers so I doubt so Not enough recognized yet
2021-10-23 11:15
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#38
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
I think he is fairly rated and that a lot of other upcoming players are/were overrated. He did well in some tournaments, people recognize he hás tallent, more than that is overrating him
2021-10-23 11:16
Not right now, but when he was in Iberian Family and before IEM Fall he was
2021-10-24 19:19
hampus, Bymas, H4rn
2021-10-23 11:12
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#37
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
Good picks. Bymas is imo the most underrated entry, together with Jackz. Their stats get destroyed because they create space in a near suicidal way for the team
2021-10-23 11:15
2 replies
you could theoretically add Interz, LNZ & support players like them, because even tho they bottom frag almost every single game, they are amazing players and they do a lot for the team
2021-10-23 11:28
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#48
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
Deppends. Interz was and is very underrated. Lnz is fairly rated. The thing is, when Gambit loose it isn't necessarily blamed on interz, but when G2 or Mouz loose it's always Jackz or Bymas who they Blame, when they always do their job
2021-10-23 11:32
krimz for all time broky for now
2021-10-23 11:19
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#41
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
Krimz was so underrated on his Run with Fnatic. Everytime every player but him got massive fan bases. Now I think ppl are noticing him more. Broky is underrated by all but faze fans. Very cracked kid
2021-10-23 11:21
boomer from navi. He is the REAL reason this navi is finally a major favorite after all these years.
2021-10-23 11:22
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#45
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
Boombl4?? Dude is either Over or fairly rated. He is the reason this and the old roster didn't get an era and were very streaky. Below average IGL, but decent entry
2021-10-23 11:24
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I don't think it was boom to blame for that, pretty sure it was allowing coach comms or someone else tried to take over mid round calling for a while, cause they had some huge difference in results for a while and it looked from the outside like nothing had changed. (but obviously it had)
2021-10-23 14:22
thx for proving my point.
2021-10-24 00:50
I think it has to be hampus. Massive impact in games especially with lurks, often highest adr. There was once against ENCE, ence were about to win the round but hampus killed the bomb carrier in t spawn and ence lost the round to time lol
2021-10-23 11:51
bodyy or nbk
2021-10-23 12:31
Rn I think jw
2021-10-23 12:34
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Jw isn't underrated but pregnant .
2021-10-23 13:06
Of all time or right now?
2021-10-23 12:35
ZywOo
2021-10-23 12:36
Spinx jabbi dycha
2021-10-23 12:40
Has to be s1mple, right?
2021-10-23 12:45
2 replies
Has to be AZR, right?
2021-10-23 15:09
1 reply
<3
2021-10-23 15:13
Acor
2021-10-23 12:48
7 replies
#93
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Czech Republic Tr3jx_S
Rn he is getting better I hope he prove haters wrong at Major
2021-10-23 16:33
1 reply
+1
2021-10-24 09:28
No.
2021-10-24 06:12
2 replies
Everything checks out
2021-10-24 09:27
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acoR worst player in history. Only achievement is that he is the reason Torzsi gets onto Mouz
2021-10-24 19:58
He's just had so many opportunities to prove himself, and hasn't yet. He's a shadow of his former self before mouz
2021-10-24 07:08
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He has potential , he is getting back to form
2021-10-24 09:28
DYCHA IS SO UNDERRATED
2021-10-23 13:06
#66
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South America Melegatti
I used to like how Nivera plays, always think he was a bit underrated, sad that he's playing valorant now
2021-10-23 14:13
Jame
2021-10-23 14:14
dupreeh, sjuush and dycha
2021-10-23 14:18
it's hard to rate some things in a player but I think bymas is underrated, watch a demo and u will see, great game sense and sets his team mates up a lot.
2021-10-23 14:18
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#77
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Sweden Kahbor4L
Bymas doesn't have great gamesense... That's pretty much what he's lacking lol
2021-10-23 15:05
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completely disagree, he is very smart player for an 18 year old youtube.com/watch?v=SbFJA0k__n0 youtube.com/watch?v=YtG_M7YT3Ws maybe not consistently yet but he's gonna be insane when he peaks.
2021-10-23 15:23
RUSH in complexity, people only see stats but nobody see who runs through the brick wall every time
2021-10-23 14:21
I would maybe say whole Sinners is still a bit of underdog, but they're gonna achieve a lot more (imo) when they actually get more sponsors and equal the money that other teams put into it. If the info is true, whole monthly budget of team sinners is less than salary of 1 Faze clan player.
2021-10-23 14:22
#74
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Asia flipflop
dycha
2021-10-23 14:25
#75
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Korea Shazil
like all israeli players
2021-10-23 14:26
karrigan olofmeister rain Twistzz broky
2021-10-23 14:27
sanji
2021-10-23 15:08
The entire VP (every single player) is overrater VP the team is underrated
2021-10-23 15:08
4 replies
Perfecto overrated af
2021-10-23 15:17
1 reply
lmao my real flair is vitality, I changed it for trolling purposes xD
2021-10-24 04:45
That's actually a really accurate description of VP LOL
2021-10-24 07:06
1 reply
names xD
2021-10-24 18:04
Niko underrated, best rifler the game has ever seen
2021-10-23 15:16
FALCAO
2021-10-23 15:17
Twistzz overrated, broky underrated Magixx overrated, mir and degster underrated
2021-10-23 15:21
NiKo, Hampus
2021-10-23 15:22
Scream
2021-10-23 15:23
sjuush
2021-10-23 16:24
Hampus,Spinx
2021-10-23 16:28
godcerato
2021-10-23 16:30
#94
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Czech Republic Tr3jx_S
frozen for sure
2021-10-23 16:33
#95
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Ukraine VoidWave
snatchie w0nderful Bymas rain FL1T
2021-10-23 17:16
#98
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Norway Muzz3912
Friberg unironically
2021-10-24 00:52
Misutaaa and kyojin
2021-10-24 00:57
#102
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Argentina Willy_CV
nafany
2021-10-24 04:48
#104
NAF | 
Brazil PAME19
boX
2021-10-24 06:18
HEAP XigN Reiko TiziaN SANJI RUSH FaNg Felps Snax (rn) Jackz
2021-10-24 06:38
Gafolo
2021-10-24 06:41
rain and 2015 krimz
2021-10-24 06:45
Krimz in terms of all time underrated players ZTR was underrated on Nip imo
2021-10-24 07:05
mir and F1KU
2021-10-24 09:39
malbsMd
2021-10-24 09:41
NEOFRAG, spinx
2021-10-24 09:48
NEOFRAG, RuStY, roeJ, Jerry, NickelBack, misuuta
2021-10-24 19:13
spinx
2021-10-24 19:15
yuurih and my man arT
2021-10-24 19:22
#125
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France 71snack
KSCERATO is a machine
2021-10-24 19:25
#127
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Serbia hitomi79
m0nesy - I think he will unleash a full potential and take a world by storm
2021-10-24 19:42
Torzsi
2021-10-24 19:59
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