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“Age matters in CS”
OveR | 
Austria SaintHamudi 
hltv.org/player/15090/pwnalone 30 year old talent still smurfing in NA
2021-10-25 18:33
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+1 kalza1 already washed at his teenage years lmao
2021-10-25 18:33
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respect kalza
2021-10-25 18:38
keep malding lol
2021-10-25 18:44
#3
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United States 3manu3l
young talent, prodigy in the making
2021-10-25 18:33
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"Age matters in CS" Yeah it does, maybe not in NA CS though. 0/8 thread
2021-10-26 00:22
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#90
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Hungary anw_
+1 NA CS so dead lmao
2021-10-26 19:28
he looks sus
2021-10-25 18:34
is he sub5 tho
2021-10-25 18:34
Who is the bestest 30+ player?
2021-10-25 18:36
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#12
Xyp9x | 
Poland f3nce
f0rest
2021-10-25 18:41
3 replies
+1
2021-10-25 18:42
+1
2021-10-26 00:07
#73
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Ukraine VoidWave
+1
2021-10-26 00:20
probably fallen. He isn't playing great, but he is awping and hasn't gotten kicked yet. pretty much any other old player on a top 25 team is an igl.
2021-10-25 18:44
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fallen is good but not best (f0rest best)
2021-10-25 22:01
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Bestest you mean
2021-10-25 22:42
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yestest
2021-10-25 22:57
Snappi
2021-10-25 18:46
2 replies
xD
2021-10-25 22:01
#81
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Finland Lohis
+1 snappi chad
2021-10-26 18:16
oskar is the best 30 year old. being 25+ makes u cancer bad at the game but he somehow is 30 year old and hitting every single fucking shot he is just too good
2021-10-25 18:48
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-1
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2021-10-25 23:00
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just neck it
2021-10-25 23:33
Oskar is 45 wtf u talking about?
2021-10-26 18:20
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fkk mb
2021-10-26 18:51
RPK before he was benched
2021-10-25 23:00
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#87
RpK | 
France HippzZ
+1
2021-10-26 18:47
#92
RpK | 
Croatia Mikylm
That works aswell :D
2021-10-26 19:31
carrygan
2021-10-26 18:53
#91
RpK | 
Croatia Mikylm
+1
2021-10-26 19:31
He would be better if he was 23
2021-10-25 18:37
NA CS is no parameter to anything
2021-10-25 18:37
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quit hiding behind the EU flag coward
2021-10-25 18:50
4 replies
not only flag, but also name checks out ur cs is terrible, accept that and stop being an idiot
2021-10-25 19:02
3 replies
ur mad + probably a noname country like slovenia + ratio
2021-10-25 21:18
#38
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United States TalioNis_
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD im an american and you made me die laughing tysm
2021-10-25 21:19
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#54
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Australia mrekk
censored
2021-10-25 22:52
older=better
2021-10-25 18:41
#14
B1T | 
Romania Lil_fps
key word: in NA
2021-10-25 18:44
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+10
2021-10-25 18:45
#20
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Australia mrekk
In Romania he'd have a consistent 1.5 rating
2021-10-25 18:46
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#33
B1T | 
Romania Lil_fps
Yes, and in na 1.2, what's your point?
2021-10-25 19:29
Size matters too
2021-10-25 18:44
#18
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North America go1x1n00b
men age like fine wine. he is yet to peak
2021-10-25 18:45
#22
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Poland synth55
josh pigeon
2021-10-25 18:46
LUL
2021-10-25 18:48
#26
LTN | 
Brazil HenTheX
Gabriel (Fallen) Toledo, 30y
2021-10-25 18:59
#27
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
I think there is a logic involved in the statement but it is extremely dependant upon the professional in question. Skill doesn't just diminish or disappear, the pro still has it, it's just about consistency. 30+ year old professional players are still showing they still got it. :D
2021-10-25 19:00
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Most pro players fall off when they are older not because of some age related conditions like the myth of slowed reaction time but due to not having the drive they had to practice as hard as when they were younger.
2021-10-25 19:03
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this guy spittin the truth right here
2021-10-25 19:04
#35
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Very good point indeed.
2021-10-25 21:15
Push factors (to grind) diminish and pull factors (away from gaming) increase with age
2021-10-25 21:21
ehm, not really, if anything older is smarter and have more discipline.
2021-10-25 21:54
#74
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Canada loldougie
+1 But most people aren't intelligent enough to come to this conclusion.
2021-10-26 00:21
Exceptions to a rule do not revoke the rule. The same would be to claim that age isn't relevant in MMA, because there are individuals that are able to compete in their 40's
2021-10-25 19:06
Keyword NA
2021-10-25 19:30
Does he have a second job? Because i dont think he gets paid enough to live
2021-10-25 21:21
I am 35 years old, and I am still as good as I was 15 in middle school
2021-10-25 21:43
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So... Not very good?
2021-10-25 21:59
I thought Loba was already proof of that
2021-10-25 21:46
zehn 30yo and still very good player
2021-10-25 21:49
fallen the best old man in elite level, f0rest good but he is stuck in dignitas, maybe good for him
2021-10-25 21:51
my dog can smurf on NA wdym theyre pure bad
2021-10-25 21:54
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#75
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Canada loldougie
Link FaceIT
2021-10-26 00:22
1.18 na is like 0.43 in eu
2021-10-25 22:40
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Turkish Lira vibes
2021-10-25 22:43
"in NA" ukrainian 13 year olds could go smurf in NA
2021-10-25 22:52
One exception doesn’t mean age doesn’t matter. If heels 18 maybe he would be 10-30% better than he already is even if he is already good at 30
2021-10-25 22:54
its about motivation
2021-10-25 22:58
Age doesn't matter, i mean look at Steph Curry and Lebron still dominating well into their 30s. Tom Brady just won a super bowl and is destroying the NFL at 44 years old. When you get to your late 20s, there's a lot of social pressure to focus more on your career and starting a family. You can't just no life one video game all the time like a 13-20 year old can.
2021-10-25 23:05
Ok, so the whole "25+ is too old for CS" simply comes from the fact that you couldn't expect to make a decent living out of CS until recently, causing adults to do other things. The only thing that could be a factor is reaction time, but according to this study (citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?d..) it is worse by less than 0.1s, when comparing 19 year olds and 30 year olds. This could give younger players an advantage in straight up duels and such, but CS is more than that, the older ones compensate this with game sense.
2021-10-25 23:37
no, skill matters in CS. if you're good, doesn't matter how old you are. but the (perhaps sad) truth is that with age comes skill rust and perhaps lack of motivation. but in principle there's nothing stopping you from honing your skills and staying motivated, and doing all the necessary things that are needed for winning
2021-10-26 00:00
As long as you hit your shots and you add something to your team, age doesn't matter Of course reaction time matters, but you can outplay your opponent by other means
2021-10-26 00:06
twofaced toileto
2021-10-26 00:07
Olofmeister :^)
2021-10-26 00:14
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lmfao
2021-10-26 18:13
#72
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Ukraine VoidWave
have you seen f0rest or snax?
2021-10-26 00:19
this has been discussed already. it all comes to motivation and other stuff on like when you're 32 years old, playing videogames isn't usually a priority anymore, you'll most likely be having kids, getting married, and you just wanna let go of the stress of being a high performance athlete, and if those things aren't a priority to you yet, then you simply stay playing see ibrahimovic, dude is 40 years old and playing at high level just because of the hunger of keep winning, it's not as if he had obligation, now you can compare that to any other playing retiring at 32 or 33, and ibrahimovic is probably playing much better than what the 32 yo retiring guys used to play before retirement, why? because he kept going and kept motivated this whole time it's the same with cs, fallen and forest are still on the top, getting hungry for titles, while you have morons like kjaerbye retiring with 23 LOL
2021-10-26 00:27
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Just proof that gamers suck as people. Traditional sports guys keeps working utill theyr body literally cant keep anymore with youngsters(so up to 40 or something), heck look how old chess pros are, perfect proof that mental degradation doesnt mean that much. And then theres gamers, with carriers ending at 25, because they got too lazy.
2021-10-26 18:18
Apparently age doesnt matter in cs. Source: hltv.org/news/30917/sharks-suspend-pancc..
2021-10-26 18:15
#86
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Finland kiitoslino
You really use him as an example instead of Fallen, Snappi, Karrigan etc? :D
2021-10-26 18:46
#93
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Norway 2kayn
Tier 10
2021-10-26 19:33
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