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K1-FiDa | 
Russia CYETA 
just 315k people watching tier 3.5 game
2021-10-27 18:01
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#1
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United States IdolaMochi
Those Tier 3.5 Games are brazilian games and brazilians are 99% of our viewership
2021-10-27 18:01
38 replies
sadly true lmao look at gaules
2021-10-27 18:02
3 replies
Gaules is carrying CS GO on his back.
2021-10-28 16:30
2 replies
single handedly living it up
2021-10-28 17:22
+1. it has been like there for the past year , man just got 100k more on every game that has some brazilian
2021-10-28 17:25
#4
novel | 
North America minte
not true look how many chinese are watching
2021-10-27 18:03
18 replies
#16
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United States Herabitix
dont they viewvbot
2021-10-27 18:11
1 reply
Nope. I mean you don't get any drops or anything from doing that anymore
2021-10-28 14:37
how many?? peak and average ???
2021-10-27 18:11
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#21
novel | 
North America minte
including china its 15 million peak, but im sure a lot of those are viewbots. still tho
2021-10-27 18:14
8 replies
those are not real numbers loool
2021-10-27 18:24
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#29
novel | 
North America minte
obviously there is not 14.5 million chinese viewers, it's probably botted or fake numbers. but even if 90% of those were fake thats still 1.45 million viewers. remember that china has 1.4 billion people
2021-10-27 18:54
6 replies
noone needs to remember that tbh everyone knows it
2021-10-28 00:05
1 reply
i dont. seen lots of articles proving china is lying about its population
2021-10-28 17:25
ARE U TROLLING ? cHINA LEAGUE OF LEGENDS HAD 100M VIWERS ON WORLDS FINALS 2019 I THINK .... ONLY IN CHINA ... MAY BE THE REAL NUMBER BUT STILL THE NUMBER IS GIGANTIC ....
2021-10-28 00:11
2 replies
It’s fake tho
2021-10-28 00:24
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100M IS FAKE FOR SURE ... BUT NOT MORE THAN 20M IS REAL 100% ... LPL the chineze league is getting over 5-10m on a normal game at league of legends
2021-10-28 00:25
#60
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North America 007DBR9
what's more nuts is even if 99% are fake that's still 150k viewers
2021-10-28 00:32
FUN FACT: these chinese are risking their lives since VPN is illegal in China
2021-10-28 14:37
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#81
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New Zealand Iuca5
they dont need vpn, theres a chinese websites streaming the event with thier own talent
2021-10-28 14:40
3 replies
IK its called huya, I lived in China before, but it doesn't have direct streams, its usually streamers like qz (previous tyloo player), ypaopao doing watch streams, in fact, if they want to go to twitch, they need vpn
2021-10-28 14:48
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they have proper streams for major man with facecames enables as well.
2021-10-28 15:00
they have actual major streams wit their own talent and all
2021-10-28 16:19
I just don't understand why western people can always act like they know everything but the truth is nah. I guess that is the advantage of democracy. lol
2021-10-28 16:17
#5
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United Kingdom Marc_o_polo
you forgot about cis viewers when navi is playing
2021-10-27 18:03
you forgot about navi?
2021-10-27 18:04
CIS bigger scene right now
2021-10-27 18:05
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#15
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Argentina SantiMedia
+1
2021-10-27 18:10
+1/-1
2021-10-27 18:28
#53
B1T | 
Russia lo0u
Well, yeah, it's pretty much the only other scene that rivals the brazilian numbers tbh.
2021-10-28 00:24
#17
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
aren't there like millions of Chinese viewers not being accounted for on their own platforms.
2021-10-27 18:11
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#22
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United States Phamous3k
Uhhhh China never been that into CSGO. CrossFire is the tactical shooter they play.
2021-10-27 18:23
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no, they play pubg more than any other game, while crossfire (imagine paying thousand bucks and still not winning)
2021-10-28 14:49
true, on huya and douyu (qz's (qz is a previous tyloo player) watch stream)
2021-10-28 14:50
nah the chinese numbers aren't that big, they're calculated in a disingenuous way iirc
2021-10-28 16:23
#25
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Spain t3mg
chinese and russian are
2021-10-27 18:25
Disagree cis has a big fanbase too also there are so many europians in the community so
2021-10-28 01:00
+1 , theya can have bad teams , but one fact is undeniable , they have , by far the best supporters in terms f being there for the team , they just dont miss a single game
2021-10-28 17:24
thats not true, cis has a bigger viewership
2021-11-07 23:42
#3
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United States schlafanzyk
gaules more viewers than both main streams combined lmao
2021-10-27 18:02
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#62
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North America 007DBR9
wow maybe because it's br t3 vs br t3
2021-10-28 00:33
#75
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Other nacslul1
br0zil
2021-10-28 14:35
Its actually good that there is a huge brazilian playerbase. I wish I could say the same about NA.
2021-10-27 18:03
6 replies
NA player base fine. Liquid vs Navi will bring the highest viewership. Gotta realize majority of the kids that play Val never played or watched CS. They’re all from games like league, apex, Fortnite. Most of them this is the first “tactical” shooter they ever played.
2021-10-27 18:09
5 replies
kids play apEX? kids don't even know what is steam lol
2021-10-28 14:39
3 replies
its a damn national treasure if anyone even plays csgo in my school lmao, aint no kids really playin csgo tbh
2021-10-28 16:11
1 reply
Console dominant region that trend follows. I remember when Fortnite blew up and everyone played it especially consoles.
2021-10-28 20:03
You can play apex on other platforms besides steam and can also play it on console. Our region just trend follows
2021-10-28 20:03
Liquid vs Navi will have a nice viewership because is CIS vs Fallen, not because NA.
2021-10-28 20:06
#7
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Italy NotNew
dead game carried by gaules
2021-10-27 18:04
667k peak just for challengers stage, not bad when NAVI, Liquid, NiP and other top teams start playing, numbers are expected to be really huge
2021-10-27 18:05
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#13
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United States Phamous3k
GF depending on who’s in it I’ll say 800k - 1.2 million. Pretty damn good tbh. If we get like a Navi vs TL it’ll do crazy numbers just off NA v EU
2021-10-27 18:09
46 replies
Navi vs liquid in the final would bring in 2 mil viewers easily
2021-10-27 22:40
800k - 1.2 million? lmfao are you delusional? when even FaZe ENCE reaches 500k then the grand final will reach 1.3+ million easily.
2021-10-27 22:43
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#35
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United States Phamous3k
800k-1.2 depending on who’s in it… Unless it’s Na’Vi v TL which would break the internet. 1.3 isn’t going to be easy lol. You’re delusional to think matchups don’t matter in the GF.
2021-10-27 23:55
40 replies
They do matter obviously, but it won't be lower than 1.2 mil no matter the teams.
2021-10-28 00:04
39 replies
#43
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United States Phamous3k
Lol yes it would. CPH v BIG not doing 1.2 lol. A Brazilian or NA vs EU will bring in the biggest draw. No one cares if it’s EU v EU.
2021-10-28 00:10
38 replies
"No one cares if it's EU v EU." That's why IEM Katowice 2019 grand final between ence and astralis had a peak of 1.2 million viewers when it was a stomp and the viewership was lower than it is now.
2021-10-28 00:11
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#50
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United States Phamous3k
That was 2 years ago haha. Bruh. Where have you been since then.
2021-10-28 00:15
34 replies
Okay, then why is the most viewed match of the major so far between 2 eu teams?
2021-10-28 00:17
11 replies
#52
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United States Phamous3k
We talking about doing 1.2+ million lol. Of course there’s some hype it’s the first major in 2 years. But, even with that being said nothing has been close to 1.2. Watch Team Liquid vs Na’Vi or Vitality. It’ll do 800-1mil.
2021-10-28 00:22
10 replies
670k people watched Astralis vs Entropiq and Godsent vs Spirit in the challengers stage and you seriously think a grand final between Na'Vi and Vitality would only have 130k more?
2021-10-28 00:27
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#63
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United States Phamous3k
Man… You have a hard time comprehending lol. 800k - 1.2 million is where a match like that resides. That’s a pretty damn good number.
2021-10-28 00:43
8 replies
A match like that would easily get 1.4 million if it would be close.
2021-10-28 00:45
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#65
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United States Phamous3k
Ok. Lol. We’ll see I suppose.
2021-10-28 00:46
6 replies
Nice, very nice prediction, my friend. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
2021-11-07 22:57
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#135
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United States Phamous3k
It’s ok that my prediction is inaccurate buddy lol. But I see it made your day lol.
2021-11-07 23:29
4 replies
It really did. How delusional you have to be to say that a major final would only reach 800k-1.2M. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
2021-11-07 23:30
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#137
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United States Phamous3k
Kid, no one predicted 2.5 million lol. The fact I’m affecting you emotionally is something else though lol. Relax guy, log off hltv for a bit
2021-11-07 23:37
2 replies
Please, let me laugh. Going to sleep now. Good night!
2021-11-07 23:38
1 reply
#139
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United States Phamous3k
Lol sleep good
2021-11-07 23:40
And by the way what has changed from 2019?
2021-10-28 00:53
21 replies
#69
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United States Phamous3k
Uhhh a lot lol. NA region actually having a scene would be a big one.
2021-10-28 03:27
20 replies
Every CSGO tournament has broken it's own viewership records since 2019 tho, why won't major do it?
2021-10-28 07:43
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#74
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United States Phamous3k
Lol I don’t believe this at all. EVERY CSGO tournament lol. Come on man. When did u even take the time to go through the data. But hey, since you’ve done the research please post the results. Lol. Looked up one tournament to prove this false escharts.com/tournaments/csgo/iem-katowi.. escharts.com/tournaments/csgo/iem-katowi..
2021-10-28 14:42
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IEM Katowice 2020 was the most viewed non-major Katowice ever. IEM Cologne 2021 was the most viewed non-major Cologne ever and EPL Season 14 was the most viewed EPL ever.
2021-10-28 14:39
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What does that show?
2021-10-28 14:45
#90
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United States Phamous3k
#71 “ Every CSGO tournament has broken it's own viewership records since 2019 tho, why won't major do it?” He stated every tournament has increased in viewership.
2021-10-28 14:51
14 replies
Which is true.
2021-10-28 14:52
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#93
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United States Phamous3k
Literally false lol. Peak & average viewership decreased.
2021-10-28 14:56
12 replies
Proof?
2021-10-28 14:56
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#96
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United States Phamous3k
I just posted the data haha. Read it #83
2021-10-28 14:58
8 replies
You've posted a comparison of two tournaments that happened in 2020 and 2021 when he said that the viewership has increased since 2019 which is true.
2021-10-28 15:06
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#101
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United States Phamous3k
Not for every tournament lol. Maybe on some but not all. So since 2019 Katowice had 2 tournaments lol. They’ve decreased in viewership. I gave you the stats. This is an open & shut case.
2021-10-28 15:10
6 replies
One was online, one was on LAN so obviously it decreased.
2021-10-28 15:20
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#105
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United States Phamous3k
That's NOT the point Lol... He stated since 2019 every CSGO tournament broke it's own record. Now we're moving the goal post to fit a narrative "Well ofc it decreased it was online". Even though you fully agreed that it DID haha. Come on
2021-10-28 15:23
4 replies
Please prove to me that the viewership is lower than it has been. (Not by comparing two tournaments lmao) And please reply to #102.
2021-10-28 15:27
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#109
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United States Phamous3k
Who said viewership OVERALL has been lower... No one has that statistical data and it's why I even stated that in the reply... #74 We are talking about one thing "Every CSGO tournament has broken it's own viewership records since 2019" And I proven that to be false. Buddy, either you're very young or you got a reading disability lol. I gave you the numbers
2021-10-28 15:30
2 replies
Okay, you've won the discussion I guess lmao, but explain to me why do you think the major's peak will only be 800k - 1.2 million?
2021-10-28 15:37
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#111
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United States Phamous3k
I looked at Cologne, Katowice, and some major tournaments throughout the year. However; if it's Na'Vi v TL or a major matchup it'll easily do close to 1.5... But I mean if we get a Gambit v CPH lol. 800k is being nice
2021-10-28 16:08
Then how can the Stockholm major already have a higher average than the last 2 majors? Literally the challengers stage is averaging more viewers than the entire IEM Katowice 2019 major lmao.
2021-10-28 15:15
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#107
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United States Phamous3k
Dude, you have a serious comprehension problem. We're not just talking about this major lol. Which is the first one in 2 years so there will be additional hype... He stated "Every CSGO tournament has broken it's own viewership records since 2019" #71 Ok, so we don't count 2019 right? So, since he said every tourney and you AGREED I posted a very popular tournament... IEM Katowice 2020 & 2021? right? The viewership from peak to average DECREASED... So, this disproves his ideaology that every CSGO tournament broken it's own viewership record... Open & shut buddy... Blame online, say it's covid, talk about Fortnite lol. Doesn't matter. You understand? That theory is disproven
2021-10-28 15:28
navi vs vitality would probably bring biggest numbers. If its brazilian or NA team then unfortunately I think EU would sleep early Or navi vs faze
2021-10-28 00:27
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#58
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United States Phamous3k
Lol. Ok
2021-10-28 00:27
what do u mean no1 in Na cares about cs anymore lol
2021-10-28 01:03
Nah easily more than that Cologne getting 800k means major will atleast get 1.5
2021-10-28 07:46
NAVI vs TL would unite br and cis communities
2021-10-28 15:28
Indeed. Navi vs liquid will bring in easily 2 million viewers if it’s the finals.
2021-10-27 18:09
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#20
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Argentina SantiMedia
+1, CIS, NA, EU, SA, all in
2021-10-27 18:11
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#123
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United Kingdom VenoK
forgot about SA with fallen as well that would be crazy numbers
2021-10-28 16:29
+1
2021-10-27 18:29
I will say this from my own judgment. CS is not dead, somehow people are still playing 1.6 and long ago this game was doomed to death. And when it comes to low viewership, big tournaments, such as the Major, are won by the best teams themselves and it is boring for me and if Mouz is eliminated or the same best teams are left, I do not intend to watch Play Offs.
2021-10-27 18:08
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Just watch the playoffs anyway my friend i think some crazy moments and upsets are in the making!!
2021-10-27 22:49
#61
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CIS ShimonSS
From what I've seen, mouz doesn't deserve to advance, dexter picks nuke two time against teams that play nuke really well because mouz's mappool is so bad that they have no other options.
2021-10-28 00:32
#19
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Portugal Lost_fly
cs is not dead but this major production is not helping
2021-10-27 18:11
2 replies
#30
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France poulpup
yeah, if it was BLAST production, it would be something else
2021-10-27 18:56
1 reply
#36
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Czech Republic Ventraks
sad that valve dont even know who is doing their events production, maybe next major FACEIT?
2021-10-28 00:01
Cs go dead confirmed lol ..
2021-10-27 18:24
as someone that is also watched worlds and TI. I can honestly say that the major is flopping atm... But like it might be different later on in the tournament, but the views compared to worlds playins are not even comparable
2021-10-27 18:26
3 replies
#33
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Greece hekzy
Cant compare to mobas due to the asian market that is inexistent in fps games
2021-10-27 22:48
1 reply
I am not even considering the asian viewers lmao, this is solely the western audiences bro. lmfao
2021-10-28 17:28
That's like comparing global viewership of soccer and ice hockey lol. Just because pretty much only the west plays CS does not mean that the game is dead lol.
2021-10-28 00:03
Would be even better if the first games weren't at 4-5AM for NA and SA.
2021-10-28 00:04
1 reply
Also I cant watch because Im working during the day, on weekends should be more people
2021-10-28 00:10
Only Valic - is the best game in the Univere
2021-10-28 00:07
This major is joke. Worst production quality ever. Regular ESL or Blast tournaments have better production quality.
2021-10-28 00:08
Yeah it has been great so far
2021-10-28 00:12
people crying over valarante
2021-10-28 00:12
valarante...
2021-10-28 00:13
inb4 american and canadian flags starts crying cuz russians, chinese and brazilian don't play muh valulrante
2021-10-28 00:31
the viewership isnt dead nor is the pro scene but for the casuals it is dead, normal valve servers are riddled with cheaters, even faceit has them
2021-10-28 03:40
CS will never die, however there's next to no new players coming in so it is stagnant, for further growth this series needs a new title it's just the way gaming is. if you can think you can grow the numbers in CSGO you're mistaken.
2021-10-28 07:53
4 replies
Yeah, on faceit you'll rarely meet some kids, most are boomers playing for +5 years.
2021-10-28 14:39
or better marketing, considering valve do next to nothing
2021-10-28 14:44
2 replies
Sure but it's too late now, newer = better in kids opinions.
2021-10-28 14:57
1 reply
cs needs 3d animations on skins dude thats what brings the children in
2021-10-28 15:06
#82
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Turkey batuy0f
everyone dies but cs is not dies
2021-10-28 14:42
Brazil is the country of CS! We don't have soccer fields full of kids playing in poor communities anymore, we have a lot of Internet cafes with kids playing CS.
2021-10-28 14:44
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#103
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Brazil infatico
no
2021-10-28 15:16
and NA is asleep too
2021-10-28 14:59
#112
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United States Valerence
+1
2021-10-28 16:11
#113
NAF | 
Brazil PAME19
Cs will never die.
2021-10-28 16:11
1 reply
that is the truth
2021-10-28 17:21
#117
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Andorra breasts
only china can save this game/the world
2021-10-28 16:21
Valorant Iceland still beat it
2021-10-28 16:22
315k is not a lot comparing to other games lol.
2021-10-28 16:27
yea buddy leave cs alone go play fortnitant
2021-10-28 16:29
It is
2021-11-08 00:12
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