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Brazil spfcLK 
"should have more spots for EU and CIS" stop belittling the other regions and stop monopolizing CS, this is not good for anyone and consequently will centralize CS in a single region, taking the meaning of the Major, then stop monopolizing and start criticizing the investments made in other regions, because there are great teams outside the EU-CIS axis. think about it.
2021-10-27 20:40
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United States pasta10101
should be playoffs between eu and na/sa/au teams for contender spots
2021-10-27 20:41
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#14
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Argentina SantiMedia
+99999999999
2021-10-27 20:45
#15
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El Salvador Bredalow
This +1
2021-10-27 20:46
well stop being shit then
2021-10-27 20:41
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"start criticizing the investments made in other regions", reads again.
2021-10-27 20:42
The problem is, especially because of covid and no international competition, the others regions outside of EU/CIS got worse. For example you see a team like TyLoo they are pretty skilled but tactically they are not good enough for tier1/2. They need to come to Europe and get better, however their org isn't willing to do it.
2021-10-27 20:43
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+1
2021-10-27 22:03
I also don't think the players, who live in china with their families, would want to live in eu long term
2021-10-27 23:44
+1 I watched the game painfull vs sharks.. Also could be a dmg vs dmg game... What a shitshow was that.
2021-10-27 21:29
Hard for other regions to be as competitive due to Covid considering there is no real international competition as everything is Europe based due to Covid. No way for other teams around the world to practice against the best teams unless they Boot Camp. When LANs consistently return it will be different but for now people make with what they got. Don’t know why people are so obsessed with wanting the NA scene to die so much. It will only hurt CS in the long run.
2021-10-27 23:43
humm i just think that 3 legends slots for NA is too much, the other regions are ok, now we have EG on the legends stage, they are clearly the 0-3 team
2021-10-27 20:41
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they made it to the legend stage (lost against godsent btw) because a team that already had a substitute had one of their player sleep during the afternoon and because they were gifted nearly 1000 rmr points for bombing out of cs_summit with 0 wins you can't make that shit up
2021-10-27 20:42
#24
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United States Doug1498
Your right It is to much but they can’t just go back on their decision mid way through the rmr cycle. The slots were made over a year ago when eg 100T liquid and Furia were all top ten teams and compete out of the NA region and all had slots from the previous major. the problem will fix itself for the next cycle based on how they perform this major
2021-10-27 21:01
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i agree, a year ago NA had 4 rly good teams, nowadays only 2
2021-10-27 21:09
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2021-10-27 21:34
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2021-10-27 21:41
It’s because how they performed in the previous rmr events prior to IEM Fall. In 2020 they were pretty good, they were good this year until Ethan cucked them and they lost their hype man Tarik to streaming. Tarik doing good with streaming CS and Val but I think he was the glue to the team. EG has a good core to build around. Brehze, oBo, and Michu are all nuts. Stan is a good caller but can’t frag like he used too and Cerq is just super inconsistent. He was averaging like a 0.9 rating as an awper.
2021-10-27 23:47
i think people are saying that because major should be competition with the worlds best teams, and if many of them happen to be from eu & cis as they are now the # of spots per region should change to reflect that dont you agree?
2021-10-27 20:41
I agree, maybe just move 1 spot from NA to CIS
2021-10-27 20:42
Dude, Brazil is literally tier 2 in EU (maybe besides Furia, just maybe). People wanna watch quality CS, not Sharks or Pain, watching them is pain enough.
2021-10-27 20:43
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"start criticizing the investments made in other regions"
2021-10-27 20:42
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Other Bactuga
I Agree, but i think there should be some kind of tournament 1-2 weeks ago between multiple NA/SA/Asian/Oceania teams, then whoever does good goes to group stage
2021-10-27 20:43
I agree with you but NA deserves only 3 spots to Major and 1 to SA/OCE and 1 to CIS.
2021-10-27 20:44
Yeah it was great to see 3 amazing BR teams in the challengers stage. Amazing performance from all of them. They said Godsent will be one of the dark horses. But they almost won a map!
2021-10-27 20:48
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that happens with any team, its a fuckin major. "start criticizing the investments made in other regions"
2021-10-27 20:49
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Yeah i know. It's just a fact that they weren't ready for these t1 matches. But hopefully Furia can do better, because u have such a nice community in Brazil. It would be cool to play a major there (unfortunately it cancelled)
2021-10-27 21:06
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Brazil SkirlsEx37
The major spots aren't randomized... if you want more spots, you only need to go great in this major and you will have it. So stop crying for all the NA spots, because they was deserved for the teams in Berlim 2019, when 3/8 of the teams on playoffs are from NA scene...
2021-10-27 20:46
Agreed in some points but 3 spots for 3 washed up teams?
2021-10-27 20:47
Major should be like world cup: 32 teams 15 for EU 6 CIS 6 NA 2 SA 2 Asia 1 Oceania
2021-10-27 20:48
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Russia Kurok4
8 slots for brazil???? Give atleast 1 more to Oceania
2021-10-27 20:51
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Bro, if u don't want to see a entire region changing games, u need to support their teams. If EU and CIS will get the majority of spots, only those regions will play the game in the future. Do you want CS to be a dead game (no jokes here)? I hate too see riot giving space to all regions and valve don't giving a single fuck about the world. Not having a competition spoiled CS community in general (devs, journalists, players and fans). I hate to see this game dying like this.
2021-10-27 21:06
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so give some of EU spots to OCE then? :)
2021-10-27 21:00
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I think 1 more could be good. OCE teams can play in NA, like Extremum. Brazilians and Asians aren't rich enough to send every single team to America and live there.
2021-10-27 21:03
+1, if you had a motivation and an investment outside the EU and CIS axis, surely this "European domain" would end and the game would become more competitive and more exciting.
2021-10-27 21:02
#35
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Russia Kurok4
Riot giving space to all regions ???? What a joke They have 1 qualifer for Africa+CIS+Central Asia(Kazahstan and etc)+EU They dont have oceania quals only chance for them to get to champions is LAST CHANCE NA qual Dosnt even talk about qualifing from far-east russia
2021-10-27 21:07
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CIS can have 2 spots in Masters and 4 in Champions. EU rankings include CIS and Turkey too. North Africa, Middle East, Central Asian and Oceania just got late to the game. When they announced VCT (December 2020, i think) some of those regions weren't even born. They put some spots in the Last Chance so they could try to play the Champions in the end of the year. Those spots didn't even exist when VCT was announced. Valve would give 0 fucks to those regions.
2021-10-27 21:15
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#43
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Russia Kurok4
Yea,Riot great company. Cant make voice chat in valorant saying that its because russian laws. And after 1year they adding vc in russia.... Rly care about regions.... Also how tf u expect anybody outside gambit to make it through emea qual Just give quals for turkey and cis They not try to support team.No money in valorant + they forbid bookmakers ad(so no money from sponsors for cis) In cs u have stickers/major pass + franchise like blast/esl
2021-10-27 21:24
almost 50% of the spots for EU? bro....
2021-10-27 20:51
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Czech Republic PaYaB
where's the problem? EU has 11/24 now
2021-10-27 22:58
The thing is, after everyone is permanently back on LAN, or at least togetger online instead of being isolated in your own regions, all these T2 non-EU/CIS teams will get the Top-tier exposure that they need. Should get better with time.
2021-10-27 21:01
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i agree with you
2021-10-27 21:02
flag checks out should've had more for CIS
2021-10-27 21:01
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stop with this flag checks out shit and think a little bit about the health of the game itself and the Major's level, think a little more bro.
2021-10-27 21:03
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flag checks out
2021-10-27 21:03
#75
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Czech Republic merryjf
true, CIS dominates and they have only 5 spots, i guess they will get about 2 more slots in the next major
2021-10-28 00:06
either TOs should start investing in other regions than EU/CIS or they should get rid 2 of the NA spots, or smth like that
2021-10-27 21:04
imo, at least in 2021, it should have had more spots for EU and CIS. and again, this is my opinion. the fact that NA cs imploded in 2020/2021 and that the spots for this major were taken in accont becaus of the results of 2019 major. NA had more spots than deserved. making the situation hard to make a competition both fair(spots were conquered) and high level(the best teams). and here we are.
2021-10-27 21:14
it just stupid to have 4 BR teams, too weak
2021-10-27 21:08
well, i agree
2021-10-27 21:12
Agreed, there was a time (2017-20) when only NaVI was a great team from CIS region, see now we have 3-4 really decent tournament winner teams. It just takes time, Brazil suffered because of covid, playing in just NA region is not good enough, in previous times there used to be so many lan tournaments and every team had a chance to play against the best.
2021-10-27 21:12
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#69
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CIS ShimonSS
We had decent teams who were able to win tournaments in eu in 2017-20 as well, like forze, vp, hr, spirit, so I can't agree with you. Also, the problem it's that Brazilian teams were that far ahead of na teams, even considering that na cs is dead right now. THey need to put more work if they want to compete with eu/cis.
2021-10-27 23:38
Dude, major shouldn't be about all regions attending, it should be about best (major) teams attending. I can name more than 5 teams that would overrun pain, sharks, godsent, tyloo
2021-10-27 21:12
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5 more like 15
2021-10-27 21:39
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I said overrun, not just win over them. By overrun I mean no more than 8rounds a map
2021-10-27 21:54
if so then, create a major only with European team and you will see the shit that will be, without visualization, without emotion and without diversity of teams / players. the world doesn't revolve around you.
2021-10-27 21:47
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Why are you again putting here fucking region I SAID BEST TEAMS, that has nothing to do with freakin' region.
2021-10-27 21:56
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I know, man, I'm just saying that the current BEST TEAMS are only on this list because of the centralization of CS, understand?
2021-10-27 22:01
"the meaning of the Major" The major means different things to different people. If you want to make the argument that the major should be a celebration of global CS and so needs representatives from all regions, then go ahead and make that argument. If you want to make the argument that it should be the best 16 teams in the world regardless of nationality then that's also a fair argument. There are plenty of teams who are better than some of the Brazilian teams who made it to the major, I'll put it that way. Keyd Stars / LG had to come through global qualifiers in 2015 to reach the major. They deserved their spots. If Sharks tried to qualify in Europe they would get banged out, and Godsent/paiN would struggle too.
2021-10-27 21:17
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the problem is that cs is already centralized in europe-cis, which is why the other regions end up losing their level, consequently this becomes a disease for health and for the level of Cs itself. So there are rather several good and qualified teams to play the major, as Keyd was for example there in 2015, they were battling and struggling to solidify, how do you want sharks or pain to win at once? they need consistency and this will only be possible if we increase the level of the other regions and remove this centralization of CS in europe-cis. Godsent is an exception because they are rather a great team, but ended up getting 0-3 in the major because of bad luck and lack of experience on account of the 3 youngsters, with time they will stabilize as a top20 team.
2021-10-27 21:54
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You have to remember that Valve does not control the whole scene. If it was like League of Legends and Riot, then Valve could throw a bunch of money at the South American scene and build it up through setting up tournaments. In the CS ecosystem you need tournament organisers themselves to do that, and there aren't really enough good teams to make an event financially viable. The reason the "South American" scene isn't that good is because the good teams flee up to the North American scene as soon as they get the chance, due to greater opportunities/salaries/prize money etc. In an ideal world something would maybe be done about this. I agree COVID has created problems, particularly in NA, that has set that scene back probably a year or two.
2021-10-27 22:01
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I agree with you, but the real reason teams have to migrate to NA is precisely the lack of motivation and investment in the region, do you agree? thus decreasing and further isolating the SA region, as well as OCE and AU.
2021-10-27 22:03
#76
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Czech Republic merryjf
>centralized in ...-cis 5 spots of brazilian teams and only 5 spots for the strongest CS region
2021-10-28 00:12
dude but its true na had like 5 slots because of the previous major... which happened in 2019 the scene is different and because of br teams going last here, if the same system gets applied there will be less spots overall for na
2021-10-27 21:19
#45
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Europe JohnMurphy
Who cares about NA and BR teams if they get usually knocked pretty fast Teams like EG, Fiend or MAD Lions have bigger chances of upsetting compared to all BR teams but Furia just get better xD
2021-10-27 21:28
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EG is NA
2021-10-27 21:40
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#52
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Europe JohnMurphy
I MEANT OG SORRY
2021-10-27 21:51
Shut up man, lots of crappy teams on this major such as renegades, MR and specially those br teams, who didn't deserve to be there, I would love to see teams like Sinners playing on the major and not those gold nova bots, just boring af.
2021-10-27 21:52
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would you love to see? talk them to qualify so, stupid opinion man. stop with this pls
2021-10-27 21:55
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Sure but they didn't because of a stupid and random format, and that's why we have such low level of cs rn, btw I'm not asking and don't want them to be there it just would be a lot more fun to watch decent teams playing and not those brazilian mm trash teams who don't deserve that many spots.
2021-10-27 22:55
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u r idiot man, stop
2021-10-27 23:23
1 reply
Sorry, truth hurts sometimes.
2021-10-27 23:26
brazil is NA I guess..
2021-10-27 22:57
Its true. All teams in challengers stage will be eliminated (na,sa) and in legends stage eg. Sad that they counted slots from 2019 major, like wtf its been 2 fucking years
2021-10-27 23:20
#68
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CIS ShimonSS
And which teams outside of eu/cis regions are great?
2021-10-27 23:28
"there are great teams outside the EU-CIS axis", beside furia and Liquid? I arent think that.
2021-10-27 23:50
I get what youre trying to say but the first two teams out are full SA teams. These teams just don't perform at the level for the major so their getting there has to be questioned. also the fact that brazil has most players at major means theres too much room to qualify
2021-10-27 23:53
#77
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Sweden EntonXD
when will you catch up then. and its rich coming from a region thats exploiting NA rmr's
2021-10-28 00:25
#78
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Italy alegalf
The teams from the other regions are objectively worse than some teams that didn't qualify from Europe. There shouldn't be spots reserved for regions imo and all teams should compete on the same rankings to qualify for the major.
2021-10-28 00:29
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why there aren't italians in pro scene? it's the 4th bigger europan country...
2021-10-28 00:36
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#80
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Italy alegalf
Yeah I know, it's quite sad. I believe we lack the esports culture here in Italy. Videogames are played more casually and there are no big local tournaments. We have a good Starcraft player and some Fifa players I think?
2021-11-06 14:54
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2021-11-06 14:55
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