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Sosa | 
Netherlands bezem 
Why wasn't Cache put back into map pool instead of adding a new map?
2021-11-09 20:43
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never. cache the most garbage map
2021-11-09 20:43
35 replies
lmao no, to watch pro games it's a good map, they should return it, the same with cobble, fck dust2 & vertigo instead
2021-11-09 20:47
25 replies
cobble is shit man cache is good tho
2021-11-09 20:55
4 replies
#111
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Sweden frizzahh
Cbble is goated
2021-11-10 17:20
3 replies
it is goated but its crap
2021-11-10 19:23
1 reply
need to pull out a dictionary for this one :/
2021-11-11 04:14
+1
2021-11-11 21:15
#70
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Belarus uberboy
yeah, cobble was so boring to watch and even more boring to play. Map of 3 strats: 1) go a 2) go b 3) try to fake drop and get a pick, if succeeded then go to the site where you killed a guy. Veri naice mens. Or maybe you're dreaming of dlore? Not happening either, if somehow cobble returns to a pool valve will make sure that we get a cobble *202X* collection just like mirage and dust ones
2021-11-09 22:25
16 replies
#82
ZywOo | 
Brazil PqSxd
I always think about that lol, people forget when they are saying that cbble was boring to watch and play? A Site Cobblestone it's awful in many ways.
2021-11-09 23:26
5 replies
#135
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United States logantk
for real, worst designed site on any cs go competitive maps
2021-11-10 17:35
1 reply
+1
2021-11-10 17:52
they just need to rework a site and the mid and maybe other area b site of cobble is one of the best bombsite in the game, its huge area with plenty of cover, with 2 maybe 3 option for t to push (long, drop, pillar door) easy to flash and to setup as t and its feels unique
2021-11-11 04:34
2 replies
agree, B is really cool, but the A site and the parts of it are fucked up
2021-11-11 17:45
1 reply
yea, its fine even as a wingman map
2021-11-12 14:44
fuck all of them, BRING TUSCAN BACK
2021-11-10 15:48
2 replies
+1
2021-11-10 17:22
yes pls but a bit more color, we don't want tuscan to come out looking like de_mirage2
2021-11-11 21:21
for whom? cbble executes were always interesting and unique not like inferno where all you do is to pray that you forced rotation properly or get lucky entry
2021-11-10 17:23
4 replies
#145
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Oceania xJ7
Lucky entry? You mean being the better player?
2021-11-10 17:56
3 replies
I mean - sites on inf are so easy to hold that you need a lot of luck to get into site without constant rotations and forcing opponents' rotations
2021-11-10 18:28
2 replies
#150
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Oceania xJ7
It's not luck, bud.
2021-11-10 18:29
1 reply
Or you force a rotation (which is not about luck), or you take it stacked with CTs (70% luck).
2021-11-11 04:27
cant believe this map has the option of going a, b or mid
2021-11-10 22:29
1 reply
#229
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Belarus uberboy
cant believe that even a split is not even a possibility there? cant believe that pulling of a fake is kind of impossible since ct rotations are like 5x faster?
2021-11-12 14:30
noooo dont take vertigo
2021-11-09 22:27
want Train back ASAP
2021-11-10 17:22
1 reply
hell no, unplayable for Ts, and for CTs you need to have a very good awper xd
2021-11-11 15:24
+1111
2021-11-09 20:50
+1
2021-11-09 20:53
-1000 0/8
2021-11-09 21:47
+1 Cache sucks
2021-11-10 17:20
at least better than cobblestone
2021-11-10 17:22
#133
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Austria Padrophil
+1
2021-11-10 17:32
-1
2021-11-10 18:41
lol what? cache = most fun to play, most fun to watch
2021-11-10 22:27
+1
2021-11-11 17:46
all maps >>>> VERTIGO
2021-11-09 20:43
25 replies
#4
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North Macedonia Sauronn
vertigo >>>> all maps
2021-11-09 20:44
18 replies
#21
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Mongolia heedblank
+1
2021-11-09 20:50
+1
2021-11-09 20:55
#36
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Latvia wassupgee
mental illness
2021-11-09 21:18
+1
2021-11-09 21:34
#48
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France Ocelot31
+1
2021-11-09 21:50
#69
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Brazil edgsawa
+1
2021-11-09 22:21
#76
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Brazil ImReverx
Inferno > Vertlul
2021-11-09 23:21
+1
2021-11-10 15:01
+1
2021-11-10 15:49
+1
2021-11-10 17:20
#134
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Austria Padrophil
de_ausria > vertigo >>>>>>>>>>>>>> all maps
2021-11-10 17:32
2 replies
#207
RpK | 
Croatia Mikylm
Miss that map
2021-11-11 17:51
flag shecks out
2021-11-11 21:19
#144
ropz | 
Latvia JRun
+1
2021-11-10 17:55
+1
2021-11-11 06:57
-1000
2021-11-11 07:46
+1000
2021-11-11 08:02
#232
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Poland Yomenik
+1
2021-11-12 14:48
+1 but vertigo as bad map as cache
2021-11-09 20:45
Insertion 2 >>>> all maps
2021-11-09 20:48
3 replies
brave opinion
2021-11-09 21:05
8/8 I respect you
2021-11-10 17:24
#210
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Romania GreenZye
the real opinion
2021-11-11 19:28
+1
2021-11-09 21:47
#3
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Faroe Islands atilayax
navi era who cares what map in pool ?
2021-11-09 20:44
Hell no, cache was boring to watch. Ancient is an actual competitive map and far superior map to vertigo. I wish valve would experiment more and remove vertigo and add something else
2021-11-09 20:44
16 replies
+1
2021-11-09 20:44
Ancient is boring bullshit. Cache is always nice to watch.
2021-11-09 20:52
6 replies
+1
2021-11-09 21:58
#129
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
everybody who's said Ancient is boring have never touched the map because others told them it's boring.
2021-11-10 17:27
3 replies
to play and to watch it are two different things. Nice fool.
2021-11-10 17:35
2 replies
#138
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
people who don't play the map don't know what's going on half the time. It's not been played enough to just be able to watch it and understand the players strats. also "never touched" also means that you don't pay attention or watch the map when it's being played. I said nothing about you playing it. Nice fool.
2021-11-10 17:37
1 reply
I watched enough csgo to know what is going on. Still, A Spot plant random kills on planter- boring B- Spot hold angle right before the spot and wait that players cross the line - boring mid or no mid control - boring. lurk in mid or a fight in donut - boring. nice fool
2021-11-10 18:10
both are equally entertaining
2021-11-11 08:03
#25
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Finland Lindeni
"Experiment more and remove the most experimental map" dude, come on. If you actually want them to experiment more, Dust2 needs to be the first to fuck off.
2021-11-09 20:53
5 replies
mirage*
2021-11-09 22:02
#59
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Slovakia Daev0n
Mirage is going to be first to go. But Vertigo is still a game of dice. it's far too open with not many places to hide.
2021-11-09 22:03
3 replies
You need to camp with an awp in a safe position?
2021-11-10 15:47
2 replies
#106
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Slovakia Daev0n
I'm not even playing awp anymore since every moron thinks he's an awp god and picks up the awp. One of the reasons why I changed my playstyle to rifle/2nd AWP only. I'm playing entry on every map apart from overpass where I play "lurk or bait" if you will. And Vertigo is one of the easiest maps to entry on (in FaceIt) since the CT's cannot really hide anywhere and they can get spammed/molotoved/flashed almost everywhere.
2021-11-10 16:13
1 reply
+1ye for me especially its much easier to play vertigo t side,there always some holes in defence,imagine if your team can constantly do frags...there is only 1 way to lose rounds-your mistakes
2021-11-11 08:11
+1
2021-11-10 17:22
+1
2021-11-11 15:24
#7
tweeday | 
Mongolia 7DoA
nuke = overpass >>>>>>>>>>>>> all
2021-11-09 20:45
7 replies
+999
2021-11-09 20:46
#20
BanKs | 
Europe Pts
+1 Nuke and Overpass are the best maps i agree ! Vertigo is on the 3rd place for me But everything is better than shitferno
2021-11-09 20:50
almost +1 i like nuke a bit better but they are surely the two best maps
2021-11-09 21:52
#81
ZywOo | 
Brazil PqSxd
+1 with Inferno and Ancient
2021-11-09 23:25
3 replies
inferno is the worst map retard
2021-11-10 17:28
2 replies
lol imagine calling someone retard bcz of opinion
2021-11-10 17:31
1 reply
+1
2021-11-11 08:11
No
2021-11-09 20:45
Cache was awesome, wish it would replace Mirage
2021-11-09 20:46
10 replies
#17
NiKo | 
Czech Republic Hyna12
Maybe it will. Mirage should be next one to remake
2021-11-09 20:49
9 replies
Nah valve wont add any community maps to official map pool
2021-11-09 21:51
8 replies
#74
NiKo | 
Czech Republic Hyna12
Why not? FMPONE created new cache as well as the old one
2021-11-09 23:18
7 replies
I really have no clue why, but they just seem to force their own unpopular maps to competitive pool over the popular comminy mades. For example Vertigo and Ancient.
2021-11-10 14:59
6 replies
#90
NiKo | 
Czech Republic Hyna12
who knows.. maybe they just want to keep the distance between community maps creators and valve's own developers. If u know, what I mean
2021-11-10 15:03
3 replies
Yeah, im pretty sure they are doing exactly that. They never really cared about the communitys opinion.
2021-11-10 17:44
2 replies
The community is not as united as you think. A lot of people want new maps in the map pool, and there are plenty of people who hate maps like cache and like maps such as vertigo. Just look at the other people in this thread.
2021-11-10 17:47
1 reply
I dont think community is united at all. Ancient and vertigo just were both really unpopular and still those made it to the map pool.
2021-11-10 18:44
Ancient is superior. Learn the map and you will like it.
2021-11-10 15:49
1 reply
I never said it isnt good. It just wasn't popular at all and still valve just forced it to the pool while the map wasnt even ready.
2021-11-10 17:36
not new cache
2021-11-09 20:46
#13
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Brazil pilastra
fy_pool_day for 2022 confirmed
2021-11-09 20:47
1 reply
fy_pool_day tdm was my childhood
2021-11-09 22:01
poolday >>> dinoiceworld, Insertion II >>>>>>>>> all map pool
2021-11-09 20:47
#18
BanKs | 
Europe Pts
everything > shitferno
2021-11-09 20:50
-Vertigo +cpl_mill +cahce + old cobble
2021-11-09 20:51
#23
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Ukraine McSwell
Never understood the point of removing cache, reworking cache, and then like... emm... nothing
2021-11-09 20:52
2 replies
#32
Sosa | 
Netherlands bezem
It's nonsensical. When it was updated I was 100% convinced it would be introduced again for something like Mirage. But it's been so long and nothing has happened
2021-11-09 21:02
Cuz the rework of cache was shit
2021-11-10 15:50
Another thing to discuss. Since Train is out for Ancient. Overpass get more and more picked. Valve did a shit map iin the map pool to boost Overpass. How stupid you can be??
2021-11-09 20:53
3 replies
Ancient and Overpass are good maps bro.
2021-11-10 15:50
2 replies
Overpass is the second slowest map after inferno. But inferno doesn't feel this way because you have a small place so many direct duels. Overpass you win rounds with 5 sec left plant in a 5v5 situation. This is boring to watch. Train was a very unique map. And better to watch than ancient and SLOWERPASS
2021-11-10 16:50
1 reply
+1
2021-11-10 17:25
Train>everything
2021-11-09 20:56
1 reply
+ 11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
2021-11-10 17:23
Honestly, the Cache changes made the map kinda shit. Installing that window in mid honestly changed the entire complexity of the map and the new wooden floors made any footstep turn into an elephant stomp. Personally I don't like it all that much anymore. I should try more ancient. Vertigo, on the other hand, might be the worst map ever made.
2021-11-09 21:00
7 replies
#33
Sosa | 
Netherlands bezem
Vertigo really is terrible. It's also abused to hell and back in pro play. Both awful to play on and ruins tournaments as well.
2021-11-09 21:04
Why is vertigo so bad from your point of view? For me its a bad map because of sounds,if they would fix that so you can hear less then the layout of the map is not that bad.
2021-11-09 21:32
5 replies
Rush A simulator, B site arguably worse than ancient's, infinite sound cues, literally ONLY one spot to plant on A site, whoever controls A ramp controls the map... TL;DR: it's dogshit.
2021-11-09 22:13
4 replies
#80
ZywOo | 
Brazil PqSxd
there are two spots to plant in A in Vertigo at least, but yeah, bad map, but I don't think it is so bad at the point most people think it is
2021-11-09 23:24
1 place to plant? Maybe because it is save plant. Complaining for nothiiing!
2021-11-10 15:52
2 replies
AWP wallbang lineups would like to have a word with you
2021-11-10 17:54
1 reply
Smoke? Mirage also has those. Maybe take the site?
2021-11-10 19:58
#35
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Europe gazxhe
assault
2021-11-09 21:09
all maps are trash except inferno
2021-11-09 21:24
cuz cache is the worst map ever made.
2021-11-09 21:27
2 replies
Becasue it's so balanced and beautiful? ;)
2021-11-09 21:49
1 reply
you're confusing cache with inferno
2021-11-10 00:29
Train is actually my favourite map. I dont have an opinion on wheter is fun to watch or not tho
2021-11-09 21:30
1 reply
most fun map to watch
2021-11-10 17:23
Anything > vertigo
2021-11-09 21:45
#45
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Czech Republic notions
cause is shit, better season & tuscan
2021-11-09 21:48
Most pro s don't like cache because of how open and straight forward it is. It favors aim machines. So players like s1mple, NiKo, ropz etc can shit on your strats and 1v9 the map. Perhaps the puggiest map in the scene.
2021-11-09 21:50
3 replies
So basically it's a perfect 1-to-1 replacement for Mirage, specially old Cache that didnt had that stupid green palete that hiddes the newer agents skins
2021-11-10 22:16
2 replies
Indeed, but pro's prefer mirage to cache simply because how snowbally cache is when T's get economy control.
2021-11-11 04:04
1 reply
That makes sense, i also dislike a bit inferno because lately i find the same effect on them but reverse, if the CTs gets good enough economy they can just play aggro/bully the T side with heavy utility and rushing you allowing for very one sided matches.
2021-11-11 18:40
People are stupid, they can make any excuse, but they can't argue that Ancient and Dust is just similar to Cache now and not more complex at all, i think the opposite, Cache was community made and one of the most played, imo Cache had everything you would want from CS map
2021-11-09 21:56
1 reply
dust has just new way of fighting for mid but after first 20 seconds its the same as before
2021-11-09 22:00
Cache is the most over rated trash map. 99% of the people who hype it just want to sound like they are old CS Vets.
2021-11-09 21:57
2 replies
you just got rekted in mm too often pleb, that's all
2021-11-09 22:00
#79
ZywOo | 
Brazil PqSxd
+1
2021-11-09 23:22
#54
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Czech Republic czRamtin03
-inferno +cache and cobble..... unless it's remaked, that map went to south
2021-11-09 21:59
I just want old cache back with its popularity in pugs. It used to be the most fun map for me.
2021-11-09 22:03
tuscan would be a great ideia too
2021-11-09 22:06
Shitcient pretty bad map I still get fps stutter/drops.
2021-11-09 22:08
#64
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Sweden Clapotre
Cache will always be my favourite map to play
2021-11-09 22:14
I would like to see new map pool: cache cobble tuscan season train nuke overpass
2021-11-09 22:14
2 replies
Stop trolling add seaside as well
2021-11-10 15:54
1 reply
Why trolling? Its solid map pool imo
2021-11-10 17:18
lol no, Cache is jsut green Dust2. boring ass map
2021-11-09 22:14
cobblestone/train > other shit maps
2021-11-09 22:15
FMPONE is Valorant developer, so VolVo won't pay him. Pluse too stucked, predicted and out of meta map with very limited utility usage and corridori chokepoints
2021-11-09 22:19
Ancient is really fun with all the flanks and exciting after plant situations. Valve just need better textures and lighting to make the map look not so dark. Layout is great.
2021-11-09 22:26
1 reply
#221
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Denmark giftigg
+1
2021-11-11 21:24
lunatic
2021-11-09 22:42
#75
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Spain kakal0x
tuscan >
2021-11-09 23:20
#77
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Brazil ImReverx
Season >
2021-11-09 23:21
#78
ZywOo | 
Brazil PqSxd
yeah let's take the newer map who is good to play, good to watch and good for Pro Scene to put c a c h e
2021-11-09 23:22
nope
2021-11-10 00:37
de_tuscan / cpl_mill best.
2021-11-10 00:42
new cache is trash and ancient is pretty fun. They should kinda rebuild way to A site. also, -mirage +tuscan, -vertigo +cbble map pool fixed. /closed
2021-11-10 00:45
#87
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Canada firtlast
anc is fun to watch but you bet your ass my team will never get to do all that fun looking ct aggression so i’ll never queue it up
2021-11-10 00:48
#91
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Russia INESSOR
train>>>>>>>>>>>
2021-11-10 15:04
I wish they would bring back contra one day. That map have so much potential for a small rework.
2021-11-10 15:07
because ancient is fun
2021-11-10 15:50
cache is awesome, cbble sucks and ancient is the worst. bring new train and cache back
2021-11-10 15:52
- Mirage -Ovps +Cache + Cbl Coming soon.
2021-11-10 15:54
cache is a pug map, ancient much better
2021-11-10 15:54
BRING BACK SHIPPED!!!
2021-11-10 15:55
noup 🙂 ancient is very good map
2021-11-10 16:14
cache was my best map and go to pick in every tournament or league ;D so you can say I was really sad when they removed it! ;[ ;[ ;[.
2021-11-10 16:17
Not even close
2021-11-10 17:23
I LOVE cache but ancient is a good map. Its just rhe fact bots arent confident enough to step out of their comfortable zone and learn to play something else than mirage and inferno. -mir + cache
2021-11-10 17:23
Cache is similar to D2 and Mirage. Valve can replace one of them with Cache but Ancient is a cool map in pro scene.
2021-11-10 17:23
Please no recycled maps FFs, we need brand new maps Please don't suggest +cache, it's overplayed and figured We need brand new maps
2021-11-10 17:24
2 replies
+1 It must be hard for valve to make some changes when half of the community is made up of autists who seemingly think creativity peaked 15 years ago. The real problem is valve's iron grip on the map pool because they sponsor majors and so have a say in the map pool. When CPL made tournaments back in the day they made custom maps for their events which were awesome community made maps with a lot of potential. That's how we got great maps like tuscan and mirage, not because of valve, because of a strong mapping community and independent events.
2021-11-11 08:20
1 reply
True we have so many great community made maps
2021-11-11 11:01
no clue, ancient is heavily disbalanced and well... I call it ctrl+c;ctrl+v map where you do always the same executes on b site a like doesnt exist
2021-11-10 17:25
cobblestone is probably the worst map, I would rather play hostage mode compared to cbbl
2021-11-10 17:25
why do people hype cobble? one of the worst maps in CS history. people only like it coz of dlore
2021-11-10 17:27
3 replies
I love playing cobblestone but it's B bombsite simulator
2021-11-10 18:35
1 reply
I can never rate cobble coz it was so trash valve had to force teams to play it. It underwent so many changes, more than Vertigo till valve gave up on it. At least Vertigo is fun to play and watch
2021-11-10 18:38
+1
2021-11-10 18:47
Ancient is a good map but i find few things very annoying -its b site execute simulator like cobble used to be, a doesnt exist. -b site is like a site on vertigo. Same smokes all the time and spray and pray through them -a site is difficult to take. Very little cover to plant is the biggest issue
2021-11-10 17:42
1 reply
a site is used for late round rotation plant
2021-11-11 08:22
OLD CACHE* CACHE with green textures ugly af
2021-11-10 18:08
2 replies
I assume it is more close to the look of the source 2 engine then previous version. More colorful and better details
2021-11-10 21:55
1 reply
It's ugly, the green is too flashy, they could have kept the old cache with the same dull colors and improved the textures without more.
2021-11-10 22:08
+just rename "ancient"" for "Aztec" ez
2021-11-10 18:09
mb -vertigo +cache, no one picked vertigo at the major
2021-11-10 18:30
tbh i'd like to see map pool: vertigo dust 2 inferno nuke overpass train cache or same but 1 map rotated every 3/6 months to ancient cobblestone and mirage
2021-11-10 18:34
#155
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India Smauxx
Too much green. I hate the color it has now. Old one had better colors.
2021-11-10 18:38
1 reply
+1
2021-11-11 07:52
+de_airstrip
2021-11-10 18:50
Ancient is one of the best maps in the pool, they need to remove Mirage if they need to remove one (and presumably add new Tuscan when it gets released on workshop and if it's liked by community).
2021-11-10 18:52
#163
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Canada AyyyJayyy
They're both pretty good, I just like (old) cache more.
2021-11-10 20:03
#164
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Latvia 4swen4
CACHE IS GREAT MAP, WHY WOULD THEY REMOVE IT, I DONT MIND ANCIENT THO. ADD CANALS AS WELL
2021-11-10 20:06
This is what should happen imo -Dust 2 -Vertigo -Mirage +Mirage rework +Cache +Tuscan/New map Seven active duty would be Mirage Nuke Overpass Inferno Ancient Cache Tuscan/New Map
2021-11-10 20:09
8 replies
#169
Sosa | 
Netherlands bezem
Can't wait for new Tuscan
2021-11-10 22:21
1 reply
Its looked really good so far from what I've seen of the remake
2021-11-11 07:45
na brain
2021-11-10 22:23
5 replies
lmao. NA brain you say even though I see quite a few EU/CIS people on here say roughly the same thing. Indonesian brain smh 0/8
2021-11-11 07:45
4 replies
na brain even more lmao
2021-11-11 19:25
3 replies
Irrelevant comment from an irrelevant region. Keep crying lol
2021-11-11 21:07
2 replies
lmao na brain at its finest
2021-11-11 21:19
1 reply
You're not even worth replying to anymore lmfao. You only know how to say the same thing every time kekw Indonesian brain at its best ladies and gents... xD
2021-11-11 21:20
No one plays dust 2 since the mid update, -dust2 +cache
2021-11-10 22:22
0/8
2021-11-10 22:23
7 replies
U still crying bc Heroic cheaters and Gambit lost the Major? lol
2021-11-11 20:58
6 replies
na brain
2021-11-11 21:19
5 replies
Cheater brain lol
2021-11-11 21:30
4 replies
3 replies
lol dude really thinks cadian cheating at 26 y old while having played pro since 2014 is the same as s1mple when he was a kid lol
2021-11-11 21:51
2 replies
the difference is that one is fully innocent
2021-11-11 21:58
1 reply
None of them are innocent lol how many videos of Cadian crying and admiting he knew do you need? lol
2021-11-11 22:20
Lmfao 0/8
2021-11-11 04:09
dont recycle old and shit maps, ancient is fine
2021-11-11 04:35
1 reply
#228
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Sweden Akoulad
its unfinished
2021-11-11 22:21
Old cache yes, new cache no
2021-11-11 07:51
-d2 +cache please valve
2021-11-11 08:03
#190
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France PP_Bizon
People love looking at map with rose tinted glasses holy shit. Cobble and cache have no place in the current state of the game.
2021-11-11 08:07
maybe beacuse there are too much choke points in order to go to the bomb sites. mid-choke a site-choke b site-choke
2021-11-11 08:12
-Vertigo (forever), -Ancient -Overpass +Cobble, +Cache, +Aztec
2021-11-11 08:20
Ratio
2021-11-11 08:22
cache needs a bit of a recolor and maybe reworking of the boost to mid to a jump instead and removing the T headshot only angle so its easier for CTs to fight it :()
2021-11-11 08:23
cache map creator works for Riot
2021-11-11 15:24
Cache > Vertigo
2021-11-11 17:46
#211
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Norway Str1mp
i would remove nuke instead of ancient. it fun to watch a new map and find new stuff to do on it.
2021-11-11 19:30
#222
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Ukraine Snigopad
Train>Inferno>Cobble>Nuke>Mirage>Dust2>Overpass>Cash>Ancient>Vertigo
2021-11-11 21:24
#231
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Poland Yomenik
mmmmmm bring back all old maps we dont need any changes next move -vertigo +cbble
2021-11-12 14:48
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