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#2 of 2021?
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Kazakhstan oscar9992 
Who deserves #2 of 2021 in your opinion? Zywoo, Sh1ro, Niko, Electronic, Ax1le, Hobbit, B1t or somebody else? I honestly think it's Sh1ro. 6 Tier 1 tournements even though they were 'ONLINE'.
2021-11-10 10:59
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> Niko, Electronic, Ax1le, Hobbit, B1t not even in the race
2021-11-10 11:01
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#6
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Norway Norvegiya2k
out of those maybe only niko
2021-11-10 11:02
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#24
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Germany Rxpev
I don't even think that he is
2021-11-10 11:28
37 replies
should be from tournament placings alone Niko should be nº2 Maybe even Sh1ro Zywoo was a ghost all year and got rekt at the major
2021-11-10 12:21
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#62
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Uzbekistan GODranar
Might be: 1. S1mple 2. NiKo 3. ZywOo/Sh1ro I know ZywOo underperformed this year, but look at the stats he put out still. Top 2 for the last 6 months. hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2020-11..
2021-11-10 13:05
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not rlly about the stats, more about your tournament placings + rating + additional MVP medals
2021-11-10 18:08
#149
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United States Magma_44
zywoo 0 mvp tho
2021-11-10 20:03
#174
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Brazil renatorib
I agree with you, but hltv don't take only rating stats, they consider mvp medals and some other stats too. But I bet zywoo will be placed in the top five anyway
2021-11-10 21:13
9 replies
if you don't win no matter how good ur stats are you are a ghost
2021-11-10 20:14
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#197
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United Kingdom novaseer
by that logic, s1mple's been a 'ghost' for most of his career... which is a dumb take that nobody agrees with
2021-11-10 22:51
7 replies
Simple has the most EVPs and MVPS ever wat are you on about Dude has all the cs records when it comes to fragging, just took along time to find a team he didn't need to carry 100%
2021-11-10 23:20
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2nd most mvps
2021-11-11 02:46
#312
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United Kingdom novaseer
"if you don't win no matter how good ur stats are you are a ghost" - you s1mple wasn't winning until he got this lineup
2021-11-13 12:35
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S1mple was at least carrying to multiple major finals. Could ziwoo do that? He clearly couldn't. If you don't play high profile matches doesn't matter to me how good Ur stats are against the worst in the tournament
2021-11-13 14:45
At most zywoo was the best of the worst cuz 1 tournament win and zero mvps of tournaments all year is very poor when you see he was top1 for two years People act like they didn't throw Cold just as badly under the bus after he underperformed for a year.
2021-11-10 23:22
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what tournament did Vitality win this year?
2021-11-11 09:34
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mistook Blast groups for a win, so he didn't win anything, so doesn't deserve top 2
2021-11-11 11:10
#86
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France iatis
Sry, but Zywoo got Rekt ? Vitality played 13 maps : 6 wins / 7 losses The K/D ratio of the team is negative. Still, he manages to go top 3 in the stats of the events. Just imaging the number of eco round he must have had compare to others with better win/lose ratio.
2021-11-10 17:13
always remember BlameF got #6 in 2020 with only one tournament win and while baiting the shit out of his whole team, ZywOo can easily be #2 with his stats.
2021-11-10 18:37
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yeah lets repeat a mistake again cuz that will make it right smh
2021-11-10 20:13
Zywoo isn't Danish tho
2021-11-11 20:12
"ZywOo was a ghost", no he wasnt. Vitality was a ghost for the larger part of the year but ZywOo remained great
2021-11-11 09:40
niko from the major definitely top2; elsewise probably zywoo and then niko
2021-11-10 13:06
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#93
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United States logantk
sh1ro > niko and zywoo this year gambit did alot
2021-11-10 17:26
14 replies
maybe so, completely forgot about shiro
2021-11-10 18:05
yeh but G2 is 2# - got more top 3# placiings than Gambit (i think didn't check cba to fact check this) and NiKo performed so much better than sh1ro throughout MORE maps than him. Like even if we look at the fact NiKo is a rifler and sh1ro, zywoo main awper-s imo he deserves 2nd place right after ur mom. the goat
2021-11-10 18:43
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#133
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United States logantk
niko was mediocre in ever event but the three they did well in. gambit won plenty more events and sh1ro is better than niko, no discussion
2021-11-10 18:45
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m8 imagine saying mediocre to the player who's been placing 1.2+ ratings in past 3 months. Here and there he has a bad map but he picks it up right after that and carries his team. also this shows well who has done a lot lately - hltv.org/stats/leaderboards?startDate=20.. Don't see zywoo nor sh1ro have any big stat rankings. Maybe cause they didn't play many events but imo NiKo takes it. Also ye i'm a NiKo fanboy but u can ask a NaVi fan they'd tell you the same that he deserves to be alongside s1mple at the top
2021-11-10 18:47
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#147
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United States logantk
niko has been nothing but average this year
2021-11-10 19:30
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k mr.usa ur the bigboy smarty pants here even tho his ratings show differenet
2021-11-10 21:05
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#245
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United States logantk
2021-11-11 02:27
clearly you've never watched a g2 game in your life, correct me if im wrong but didnt he have 20 kills at halfime vs heroic in one of the maps of pgl major semis?
2021-11-10 21:59
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#244
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United States logantk
correct me if im wrong g2 went 0-5 at EPL and lost to sinners cry is free niko # 4
2021-11-11 02:27
5 replies
One tournament they flopped. But you ignore dozen other which they got 2# at. Movistar Riders got destroyed so now u gotta flame G2... Amazing
2021-11-11 06:08
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#303
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United States logantk
flair 0% chance niko is in the top 3
2021-11-12 01:00
so you mean #4 is average player ? mate sorry but you are the one who is crying right here right now. this is the clearest thing i have ever seen in my entire life.
2021-11-11 06:50
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#304
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United States logantk
name checks out 0% chance niko is in the top 3 cry is free turkey XDDDDDD imagine tho...
2021-11-12 01:00
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thanks for proving
2021-11-12 20:20
possible, but niko has really good LAN stats so that might give him a boost that could push him to #2 anyways we'll have to see for the last few tournaments of the year
2021-11-11 01:44
G2 and Niko were average through the year
2021-11-10 17:56
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He deserves somewhat of a higher ranking due to his major performance though. However, Sh1ro was looking pretty good throughout the year so idk tbh.
2021-11-10 18:16
Hobbit yes. He is a really fking good player with 2 mvps
2021-11-10 22:56
sh1ro or zywoo
2021-11-10 11:01
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#29
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Denmark Almoe
shiro onliner, niko>
2021-11-10 11:30
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onliner vs choker
2021-11-10 17:52
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isn't an onliner also a choker coz they can't perform on LAN which has the most pressure? also NiKo only choked 1deag shot. did you forget he made the finals for IEM Cologne?
2021-11-10 18:06
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NiKo only choked 1deag shot Did you watch the major?
2021-11-10 20:24
2 replies
Are you a parrot? That's what I wrote
2021-11-10 20:57
1 reply
loooooooool
2021-11-10 23:06
Sh1ro, ZywOo underperformed this year.
2021-11-10 21:13
#3
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Finland FneXie
Has to be Sh1ro, don't think there's much discussion anymore after ZywOo didn't win the major
2021-11-10 11:01
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sh0ro major performance was hoprrible
2021-11-10 11:21
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#34
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Denmark KingDevice
wdym, he was terrible only against Navi haha? 1,21 rating overall?
2021-11-10 11:36
#38
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Ukraine Bananagl
top 3-4 anyway
2021-11-10 11:39
Pepega
2021-11-10 18:46
against navi*
2021-11-10 22:18
#55
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Albania Mgoldfish1
I mean one of the hltv guys on twitter was saying zywOo was leading ealier in the year and since then sh1ro and zywOo did about the same in tha major so id say nothings changed zywOos easy no2
2021-11-10 12:53
How could b1t still make it?
2021-11-10 11:01
2 replies
no way, good aimer but his stats are not enough to be in top5. He is just like Twistzz
2021-11-11 07:02
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Yes but not like twistz
2021-11-11 10:44
sh1ro zywoo won nothing in 2021, not even a single mvp
2021-11-10 11:01
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???? relevance?
2021-11-11 06:06
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No MVP, only one tournament win, baited his whole team to get good stats, #6 2020.
2021-11-11 14:40
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#6 is not the same as #2
2021-11-11 20:44
u need to analize him alone, not as a team. dev1ce in 2018 won basically everything and still got second
2021-11-10 18:55
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then it doesnt even make a sense, because in 2020 they chossed between s1mple and zywoo mvp's wise, now they must play by their own rules
2021-11-10 21:04
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#196
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United Kingdom fal36
Because zywoo and s1mple had very similar ratings so the decider was team success. S1mple got 1st in 2018 because his rating was so far ahead of everyone else even while astralis were the dominant team
2021-11-10 22:49
but rating gap was huge, thats why he was 2nd zywoo doesnt have this advantage right now
2021-11-10 23:06
He didn't win the other years too, just some mvps from tournaments he didn't win. Compare his 2 top 1s with GTR and coldzera's. The two dominated the scene while ZyWoo always lost on playoffs, but his baiting rating carried him to MVP
2021-11-10 23:19
#7
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Norway Norvegiya2k
b1t, electronic no chance
2021-11-10 11:03
s1mple, I think
2021-11-10 11:03
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Based
2021-11-10 11:04
#64
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Poland top1_polak
time to create new account men)))
2021-11-10 13:02
6 replies
he already has one named sh1ro_back_to_japan
2021-11-10 13:57
5 replies
thats not mine
2021-11-10 16:58
4 replies
dont lie
2021-11-10 17:08
3 replies
I arent lying
2021-11-10 21:06
2 replies
Stfu liar
2021-11-11 06:09
1 reply
How can u tell what his other accounts are? Didn't see it in his profile
2021-11-11 17:06
kek
2021-11-10 17:55
+1
2021-11-10 18:19
#2 will be NiKo
2021-11-10 11:03
10 replies
not even close
2021-11-10 11:04
7 replies
We'll see.
2021-11-10 11:05
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#168
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Brazil Nicolito
not even close bro... i can see in your profile that you signed up in 2020 and maybe you don't know how HLTV Ranks works. Even if NiKo had the highest rating even about s1mple he wouldn't be at top 3. You need to win tournaments, get MVPs, etc. Sh1ro will be top 2 and zywoo, hobbit, maybe even ax1le is above NiKo in 2021 rankings.
2021-11-10 21:09
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#225
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Sweden 1Bjork
+1
2021-11-10 23:42
you are completly wrong. Dont you remember that device won everything he can win and still couldnt be top1 because of the ratings. Rating is the most important thing for player rankings. Mvps in second plan, you can close rating diffrence like 0,01-0,02 by mvps but nothing more. maybe hobbit has a small chance to be above niko but there is no way ax1le to be above niko.
2021-11-11 07:16
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#284
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Brazil Nicolito
Wait and see then. NiKo Will be top 4 at his very best
2021-11-11 11:33
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you said ''maybe even ax1le can be above niko'' then i said ''there is no way ax1le to be above niko.'' if he will be top4 this means he will be above ax1le, are u sure you read what i wrote?
2021-11-11 16:02
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#293
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Brazil Nicolito
yes, i said "maybe", that's why NiKo CAN (yes, im saying he can) be above ax1le, being top 4 at best, but sure not above than that, at least sh1ro and zywoo is above him 100%, hobbit and ax1le MAYBE surpass him.
2021-11-11 18:28
yes
2021-11-10 11:24
+1, niko or shiro
2021-11-10 11:39
They will give it Zywoo. He somehow always edges up in HLTV rankings
2021-11-10 11:04
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Yeah hltv will give him some mvp's again like they did last year and zywoo will go up in the top
2021-11-10 13:07
#14
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Russia Soawii
sh1ro / zywoo. depends on the last 2 months
2021-11-10 11:08
#15
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Ukraine McSwell
Statswise it's zywoo, but considering how poor was Vitality tournaments run in 2021, and how well were upstarts from Gambit doing in some online events - I see some shiro/hobbit possibility in top-2.
2021-11-10 11:09
zywoo/niko/shiro/electronic
2021-11-10 11:17
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This. And it greatly depends on the last events of the year, how will everyone do.
2021-11-10 13:05
#17
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Australia B_Tannen
sh1ro for me.
2021-11-10 11:19
100% sh1ro. ZywOo was already out of the race in June
2021-11-10 11:19
2 replies
+1
2021-11-10 12:00
#179
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb
ya sure,...when 3 of the 5 biggest events of the year are yet to come, zywoo is already out from race. dude upcoming events are lan, everything except major and cologne don't have more importance than next 3 events.
2021-11-10 22:02
Device always had more mvps than s1mple and got lower place due to lower stats, so probably it will not be shiro since zywoos rating is better.
2021-11-10 11:23
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#25
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Turkey c0ir
but device always won somethings. zywoo have nothing in 2021
2021-11-10 11:29
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Yeah that's what i am saying. S1mple didnt win much and still was higher than device who won a lot in top 20 rating, because his rating was significantly higher. ZyWoo didnt win much, but his rating is much better compared to sh1ro so far (0.05 points difference).
2021-11-10 11:33
5 replies
Filter on top 20 teams matches for 2021
2021-11-10 11:33
There's like 50 map difference between shir0 and zywoo. That's pretty crucial as well.
2021-11-10 11:40
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That is true. We will see what happens.
2021-11-10 11:50
Even in 2018, Navi did win Cologne = top5 tournament of the year. Thats more than Zywoo has won this year. I'm actually pretty curious how high the HLTV will be placing him.
2021-11-10 13:07
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+1 with zero in the trophies and mvp column
2021-11-10 17:50
niko
2021-11-10 11:24
Dude said B1T
2021-11-10 11:25
1 reply
Dude's flair kind of gives it away xD
2021-11-10 11:29
sh1ro as of now. Only 0.03 behind ZywOo but 10x the achievements. So yeah, sh1ro 2nd, ZywOo might be 3rd.
2021-11-10 11:30
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10x the achievements. Brutal, Savage, Rekt. Kind of sad when you see a player of ZywOo's quality being bogged down by his team's form and results. But CS is a team game after all.
2021-11-10 11:31
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Well yeah, sh1ro has 2 MVPs, every single EVP, 5 Trophies, 9 Tier1 Grand Finals, 11 total Grand Finals (6-7 total trophies), Major Semi-Finals, etc. sh1ro also has 3x to 4x as many playoffs maps as ZywOo, with a similar or higher rating. And he was consistently good throughout the year as well. And ofc this: hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2021-01.. sh1ro with the above achievements, deserves 2nd.
2021-11-10 11:36
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#28 and thanks for the stats!
2021-11-10 11:37
#98
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Taiwan T1dal
this is not accurate, u r including tournaments half of these players didnt even participate in
2021-11-10 17:35
8 replies
Only MVP-based events (HLTV considers them all) and in some cases, the direct in-event qualifiers too (like Major Challengers Stage, Katowice/Cologne Play-in stage, BLAST Season Groups, etc). For the ratings displayed on the cover page of HLTV Ranking articles, this is what is used. They did the same last year - confirmed by HLTV Admins.
2021-11-10 18:41
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#148
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Taiwan T1dal
doesnt change the fact that zywoo niko and other players in this discussion did not participate in cis rmr
2021-11-10 20:01
6 replies
They had equivalent events in the EU rmrs
2021-11-10 22:07
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#184
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Taiwan T1dal
cis rmr clogged with no name tier 2 teams
2021-11-10 22:16
3 replies
EU rmr clogged with trash tier 2 teams. Old Fnatic, ex-FPX, Sprout, ex-North
2021-11-10 22:20
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#289
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Taiwan T1dal
vs forze akuma singularity indi rae i could go on
2021-11-11 15:53
Not this time bambi, it was on par with EUs by the names present
2021-11-11 09:25
Doesn't change the fact that they are still official MVP-based events and HLTV Rankings always consider MVP-based events.
2021-11-11 03:54
this is the most important filter: hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2021-01.. sh1ro has no chance, the LAN events will get much more weight in the final decision. This is also the reason why s1mple has #1 in the bag even without the major, it would not have made enough difference.
2021-11-10 18:44
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just the Major MVP and trophy will prove now his doubters that he will get that deserved #1 HLTV TOP 20
2021-11-10 22:40
nt ZyWoo clearly a baiter to boost stats.
2021-11-11 04:07
As much as I like ZywOo, sh1ro has to take it for me. He has played brilliantly throughout the season. On Lan, he was actually very good. Online, he was a monster.
2021-11-10 11:30
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he was not important on LAN, 1.05 impact rating is horrible. ZywOo has 1.37 and s1mple 1.62. electronic and NiKo both surpassed him as well.
2021-11-10 18:48
Imo 1.S1mple 2.Sh1ro 3.NiKo 4.ZywOo
2021-11-10 11:38
1 reply
+1, unless Niko goes nuclear in the December events, then he will be #2
2021-11-10 17:28
niko , hobbit , electronic , sh1ro , ax1le, b1t , hunter
2021-11-10 11:41
chrisJ
2021-11-10 11:41
#43
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Romania styl3noxe
NiKo if he keeps playing like he did this major.He can be a #1 contender as well but if he doesn t win anything...
2021-11-10 11:52
5 replies
As long as he doesn't have to use deagle from behind for rest of the year
2021-11-10 12:57
even if niko wins the last 2 or 3 t1 events or how many are left with mvp he still wont be nr 1 above s1mple
2021-11-10 18:04
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#150
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Romania styl3noxe
i mean in general.Not this year.His aim is out of this world but he needs to be more consistent and actually win tournaments.
2021-11-10 20:13
+1 that's right. There is no way because s1mple's Major win in PGL Stockholm just basically 100% confirms his top 1 spot in HLTV top 20. NiKo though was the 2nd highest rated player in the PGL Major 2021. Also in IEM Cologne he was in top 10 rated players in that event. He will most likely get #2 if he can finally lift a trophy in the next LANs that G2 will play. Most likely IEM Winter 2021 if G2 plays good and it's not only him carrying them.
2021-11-10 22:46
he is not even close, look at his stats for the year, s1mple has a 0.14 higher rating, that's insane.
2021-11-10 18:49
#44
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Russia M31F
sh1ro
2021-11-10 11:58
#46
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Sweden SamBbbb
ZywOo or NiKo, maybe Sh1ro or hobbit but I think ZywOo is definetely the most versatile player of them all.
2021-11-10 12:04
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Was also a ghost all year with no mvps and only one tournament win Can't be giving him prizes for being non existent
2021-11-10 12:22
#47
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
sh1ro will probably get #2 only 0.05 against top 20 ,behind Zywoo with both MVPs and tournament wins + 3/4th place finish at the major. If he maintains his rating or even increases it then 100% he will get #2 no questions asked. edit: *0.05 against top 20
2021-11-10 12:10
Stop overrating b1t ffs
2021-11-10 12:17
1 reply
Flair btw
2021-11-10 12:58
zywoo also b1t barely top 20 btw
2021-11-10 12:19
#50
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Europe JohnMurphy
s1mple sh1ro electronic niko zywoo b1t hobbit
2021-11-10 12:20
Shiro 2 hobbit 3
2021-11-10 12:21
#53
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Spain Purple21
Niko
2021-11-10 12:21
#56
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Brazil DELORK1LL
ZyWho?
2021-11-10 12:54
#57
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Spain Nepomu
Niko obviously
2021-11-10 12:55
#58
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Brazil Iurito
1. S1mple 2. Sh1ro 3. Zyw0o 4. Hobbit 5. NiKo
2021-11-10 12:57
out of em all NiKo got no team achievements , but still his lan rating might carry hijm up the rankings
2021-11-10 12:58
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ZywOo doesn't either, but he has been much better for the rest of the year.
2021-11-10 18:51
Sh1ro should win it tho this is close between sh1ro and ZywOo
2021-11-10 13:01
#65
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Italy BOT_Jay
Nicolai "NiKo" Reedtz
2021-11-10 13:02
sh1ro, elec and niko are the only options imo zywoo didnt win enough / get far in playoffs
2021-11-10 13:06
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#78
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United States urm@m
hobbit/axile
2021-11-10 17:03
1 reply
yeah but theyre both lower rated than sh1ro thats why i didnt put them
2021-11-10 17:25
shiro, unless Zywo destroy everything @ blast finals. Last chance for him
2021-11-10 13:55
#72
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Turkey w0lix
device
2021-11-10 13:57
shiro, zywoo has better stats but that's it
2021-11-10 17:01
#76
FaNg | 
Canada JC_123
OCEAN
2021-11-10 17:01
NiKo or sh1ro
2021-11-10 17:03
#79
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Other LEMIEUX66
1 s1mple 2 sh1ro 3 NiKo 4 ZyWoo 5 Hobbit
2021-11-10 17:06
#2 will be NiKo Otherwise, I'll honestly be upset with the HLTV top 20.
2021-11-10 17:09
#82
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Lithuania NiceTape
TMB
2021-11-10 17:09
Sh1ro
2021-11-10 17:11
#85
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Brazil guhzzz
s1mple
2021-11-10 17:12
#87
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Poland moistu
b1t cannot be in the race for the top 20 only played a few good events in the last 3 months, players are judged for the whole year before he was only listed for the flamie squad so he also had 1.0 stats
2021-11-10 17:16
2 replies
I think it is safe to say b1t will definitely get top 20 probably gonna max out around top 15 tho, even though his overall year rating isn't super high, the sheer amount of team achievements and his major rating will carry him
2021-11-10 17:25
b1t will be top 20...hes one of the best rated players at big events.
2021-11-10 18:47
#88
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Poland moistu
electronic can get the top 8 at the most, but I see him in 10th place because there are s1mple, zywoo, sh1ro, niko, hobbit, ropz, ax1le, jame, yekindar, blamef in front of him
2021-11-10 17:19
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#92
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United States urm@m
yekindar? LOL he sucked for like the first 8 months.
2021-11-10 17:26
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#128
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Poland dejmanOOO
first 8 months got me good LOL
2021-11-10 18:41
Niko all other bots
2021-11-10 17:25
#94
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France iatis
Sh1ro deserves number 2 if we take into account his achievement. And I believe we should take that into consideration. But, if we want to know who is the best player, and want to do it from the stats perspective, we should consider that : Gambit, against top 20, maps played 168 : 110 wins / 58 loses K / D ratio : 1.11 Vitality against top 20, maps played 115 : 64 wins / 51 loses K / D ratio : 1.0 So Gambit played way better, should have way more round with full weapon vs eco than Vita had, and way less eco round vs full weapon than Vitality. It should help a lot stats wise. Except if rating kind of discount kill vs eco, and disgard eco vs full equip. Though, we could argue that Sh1ro teammates "stole" some of sh1ro's frag.
2021-11-10 17:33
niko only one good tournament, maybe cadian
2021-11-10 17:29
sh1ro only
2021-11-10 17:31
How about RicziMaszyna?
2021-11-10 17:36
#103
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Germany chillhase
I would have given it to NiKo if it weren't for his two incredible fails in the Major Grand Final. Now I'm not sure...
2021-11-10 17:56
1 reply
Someone had to carry them to the final , and Niko did his fair share. but ofc the choko was too strong in him
2021-11-10 20:16
#105
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Brazil hugoooo
B1T????? hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2021-01.. You guys are delusional as fuck sometimes.
2021-11-10 17:56
it has to be NiKo imo
2021-11-10 17:58
B1T have 1.09 rating (1.07 vs Top 20) in 2021 he may not get into top 20 and you talking about 2 place wtf
2021-11-10 17:59
#110
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Romania xypperz
xyp9x
2021-11-10 18:04
#113
JW | 
Sweden EntonXD
probably niko
2021-11-10 18:07
1 reply
#136
JW | 
Sweden EntonXD
probably niko. And sh1ro will likely be 3rd or 2nd. because hltv often favours MVPS and ranks the cis tournaments lower. but niko came further in the major and 2nd in cologne which are lan and weighs more. I think niko. B1t is delusional, electronic will likely be top 10 and so will hobbit and ax1le be aswell, those two have almost teh same stats. zywoo deserves atleast top 5 but havent played as many maps as other t1 pros. like 40 below s1mple. and has had a much worse team with even a faze tier slump.
2021-11-10 18:47
if zywoo gets top 2 you def know HLTV rankings are biased
2021-11-10 18:07
16 replies
Sh1ro top2 with 1.10 impact rating ? xD
2021-11-10 18:45
15 replies
#141
JW | 
Sweden EntonXD
those are likely mostly for clutches though since he takes alot less opening kills and kill attemps compared to others
2021-11-10 18:48
Team performance matter otherwise you are just posting empty stats. Even NiKo this year deserves a higher placing than Zywoo. If ratings are what matters most then monesy should be top 5
2021-11-10 19:01
6 replies
#171
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Mexico GiPaD
m0nesy plays in tier4 dumbass
2021-11-10 21:12
5 replies
But ratings..... Also seems my point went over your head dummy
2021-11-10 21:54
4 replies
#222
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Mexico GiPaD
Yeah because farming tier4 shitty players are the same than playing in the elite of the game, dummy
2021-11-10 23:37
3 replies
and not winning? so zywoo over sh1ro and NiKo when his team played like shit except one tourney?
2021-11-11 01:25
2 replies
#242
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Mexico GiPaD
You just say it, "His team", not him, dummy people still using the team to argue a player when we are talking about individual skills smh
2021-11-11 02:15
1 reply
But when blameF does the same people call him a baiter
2021-11-11 06:22
ahaha mad baguette what did zywoo win all year? Great stats always on the losing team. So the best of the worst, what a great player
2021-11-10 20:15
6 replies
Like 2019 s1mple dumbass won nothing but still was top2 when dev1ce had 1.30 impact rating and 3 mvp and major mvp
2021-11-10 22:53
5 replies
who cares zywoo not top2 take your dose of copium now while its fresh
2021-11-10 23:19
3 replies
If you want a team achievement ranking go look for the top10 team of 2021 retard, top20 hltv is made for individual performance, put ronaldo in a shit ligue 1 club and he wont win anything in his all life but can still be good individualy, use your brain retarded portos
2021-11-10 23:35
2 replies
ahahha You say that but he won throphys and was top scorer in every league he passed. From portuguese all the way to england again. Put Messi on a french team tho and you won't win anything, thats how bad french teams are. Regardless this has nothing to do with football, Zywoo was not the most impactfull player also acheiving stats in playoffs and groups stages are different from stats and impact at high risk games. If you don't even reach finals your 1.3 ratings means jack shit. Like i said he is the best of the worst, he doesn't deserve top2 Prob top3/4 max between him and shiro prob
2021-11-10 23:38
1 reply
you re the most retarded guy possible, zywoo had the highest impact rating ever done by any pro player in the history in 2019 in his first pro year and on full Lan, won toornaments and lan trophies, also ronaldo never went into a bad team he always had the top team from his league, put him in a shit team and he wouldnt have won anything. Same goes for s1mple in 2017 and for zywoo in 2021, vitality isnt even a top10 team in the overall year, and on the year where vitality = navi in 2020 zywoo was the most impactful player with the best rating in the playoffs of the BIG EVENTS in the year :)
2021-11-11 01:42
Also #151
2021-11-10 23:23
#2 is sh1ro without question
2021-11-10 18:08
s1mple sh1ro zywoo niko hobbit axile electronic ropz jame kscerato my top 10 so far considering stats and tourneys , could change till end of year depending on the last 2 3 big tourneys
2021-11-10 18:13
5 replies
+1
2021-11-10 22:10
Jame? LOL
2021-11-10 23:02
3 replies
yea jame he has good stats and been in all playoffs of major tourns why u surprised
2021-11-10 23:03
2 replies
Jame sucked on Major & carried by rifflers. Are you kidding me? ))
2021-11-10 23:04
1 reply
major is not only tournament of 2021 bro... vp had good start of year then fell a bit off , and they still made top8 at major , he shall see at end of year he will be in top15 for sure
2021-11-10 23:05
shiro or zywoo probably
2021-11-10 18:17
For once it isn’t obvious
2021-11-10 18:18
godJ
2021-11-10 18:32
most likely sh1ro, maybe Hobbit
2021-11-10 18:33
niko
2021-11-10 18:35
#129
OK | 
Peru TheJuan
s1mple
2021-11-10 18:41
1 reply
+1
2021-11-10 22:26
b1t will be top 5..hes one of the best rated players at big events.
2021-11-10 18:47
niko
2021-11-10 18:49
#152
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Finland Doto_top1
sh1ro or NiKo
2021-11-10 20:14
#156
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Slovakia lumankrix
s1mple
2021-11-10 20:16
no MVP, no Zywoo unfortunately he's in top 5 for sure though
2021-11-10 20:48
#160
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United Kingdom FNC_TOP_1
brollan
2021-11-10 20:58
s1mple
2021-11-10 21:01
#162
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Spain Brauer
This year i only watched the major so I would say Niko
2021-11-10 21:03
3 replies
xD , I somehow love your take. NiKo in order to confirm himself a spot in the #2 HLTV top 20 he should win either one or both 2 LAN events they will have left to attend (IEM Winter 2021 and Blast Pro Global Finals). And if he manages to keep his good form and potentially win an MVP medal for one of those 2 events then I think so there is a chance he can surpass sh1ro actually.
2021-11-10 23:00
2 replies
#294
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Spain Brauer
idc about winning events how can he win an event when his whole team is dragging him down. Im talking about individual play, NiKo played like a beast this major very close to s1mple
2021-11-11 20:00
1 reply
what do you mean ? hunter and nexa stepped up when NiKo needed them the most in the play-offs. Of course NiKo carried G2 across whole play-offs in order to get them to the finish line and he was the main guy who pushed G2 forward round by round in all the matchups (Being it NIP, Heroic or Na'Vi) . But you can't say that hunter or nexa was nowhere to find, because both of them had impact in the play-offs (at least in the quaters and semis) AmaNEk and JaCkz where the only weak links for G2. But I got to say, the Frenchies started to step up really good in the Finals on second map of Nuke. As a team they played solid this Major is just Na'Vi were a better overall team. And in my opinion I think so picking Ancient first in the Finals against Na'Vi was a horrible idea from the G2 side. But you can't change the past, right ? What happened already can't be undone. I agree with you though that NiKo played like a beast this major, I just think to get that top 2 spot he has to win a LAN event (preferably winning MVP too). Because HLTV might put sh1ro #2 just because of winning more events online and having 2 MVPs this year.
2021-11-11 21:30
#166
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Romania SplaXie^
Zywoo.
2021-11-10 21:07
#167
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United States keebler
shroud 100%, if not then top 3
2021-11-10 21:07
Striker is #2 because he love ZywOo and give him fake MVP's for Christmas and the #2 spot in the top.
2021-11-10 21:11
I think it will probably be ChoKo
2021-11-10 21:11
#172
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Pakistan red_nx
I think Shroud deserves it
2021-11-10 21:13
XGOD
2021-11-10 21:14
chrisj 100% xD
2021-11-10 21:57
probably sh1ro, but NiKo could place up there with his hard carry of G2 the past couple of months, or Zywoo can seal it if Vitality wins Blast
2021-11-10 22:06
Niko probably, he is behind on rating and mvp's but he was constantly in the finals of the tournaments and performed great in pretty much all of them. also his major run was incredible, second only to goat simple
2021-11-10 22:16
I would say either papatronic or B1t cuz they won grand slam + major + other events + insane players
2021-11-10 22:21
sh1ro won't be #2 just check the stats
2021-11-10 22:21
#189
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Ireland kdorek
I guess 2nd sh1ro, 3rd zywoo and 4/5 hobbit/NiKo but they are too close now to tell. So it depends on these last 2 months as well.
2021-11-10 22:22
Niko #2 for sure Second to best at two lans this year HLTV rate lans much higher than online tourneys so..
2021-11-10 22:25
s1mple
2021-11-10 22:26
Hopefully Sh1ro, felt like he showed up on LAN and has good placings/MVPs.
2021-11-10 22:46
s1mple. Aleksib deserves the first spot
2021-11-10 22:55
Hard fight between ZywOo and NiKo
2021-11-10 23:00
4 replies
Not Sh1ro ?
2021-11-11 01:16
3 replies
Fak,i forgot about him lol... He is #2 for sure How the hell i forgot him... 1.24 rating 5 events won 2 mvps one of those mvps is IEM Katowice 2021
2021-11-11 01:28
2 replies
I'd say 1. S1mple 2. Sh1ro 3. ZywOo 4. NiKo The year is not over but I think it's set already
2021-11-11 03:49
1 reply
If NiKo continues his form like this he will be #3 no doubt
2021-11-11 12:53
i think niko has a change
2021-11-10 23:07
#210
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United States ShoxRox
HLTV loves their rating system and sh1ro has a rating of 1.24 compared to Zywoo's 1.28 I think Zywoo gets #2
2021-11-10 23:10
zywoo obv, just goat player, will be the best player ever to touch the game, hes 4 years younger than s1mpel btw and already more #1 hltv
2021-11-10 23:12
sh1ro all the way
2021-11-10 23:15
me
2021-11-10 23:16
With Major win, I would say it is between Electronic and sh1ro. B1t maybe top 10
2021-11-10 23:20
sh1ro for sure
2021-11-10 23:36
niko i guess
2021-11-10 23:40
#226
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United States raymoney
Off the eye test, it has to be NiKo or Zywoo.
2021-11-11 01:07
s1mple (ZywOo #1)
2021-11-11 01:09
1 reply
-1/8
2021-11-11 02:44
Acor or kyojin
2021-11-11 01:13
Probably Sh1ro
2021-11-11 01:15
While we all like Niko we gotta be honest here, he did not do all that much before this Major run. Which was GOD TIER performance and worthy or all the rewards you can think of. But beginnings in G2 were rough, first the AWP situation, then time they took to settle the roster and for Niko to find his place in that system. He him self said he was not happy with his performance at the time. But apart from s1mple no one was as consistent this year, Hobbit probably, zywoo had a rough start, sh1ro also had few dips iirc, dev1ce is a light year away from his totally realistic goal to be the player of the year. So we are likely going to determine that in the next month, I'd like it to be Niko but think it's more realistic to have someone from Gambit as they absolutely demolished everyone in the first half of the year and they are still preforming well.
2021-11-11 01:16
2. NIKO 3. sh1ro/zywoo 4. zywoo/sh1ro 5. that's the most hard thing
2021-11-11 01:17
B1T LUL he will place betweet 15-30
2021-11-11 01:18
ChrisJ
2021-11-11 01:31
sh1ro. If you look at the whole year he's really the only option imo
2021-11-11 01:37
FLAIR
2021-11-11 01:39
Probably will be zywoo
2021-11-11 02:08
as of now niko can't be #2, his year wasnt #2 worthy until the major if G2 wins IEM winter and he gets MVP then i think he is solid candidate for #2 but rn it has to be shiro or zywoo
2021-11-11 02:20
I would say #2 is sh1r0 because of the MVP from Katowice and IEM Summer, plus they won Blast Spring and he had a good rating in that event. The same logic extends for Ax1le at #3, 2x MVPs, many trophies, and decent rating. NiKo is probably at #4 just because of how many finals and deep runs G2 have had. Despite not winning trophies, they were Major finals, cologne finals, top4 at a whole bunch of stuff: Blast Spring finals, IEM Summer, Dreamhack masters, and they won the Blast showdown too. By comparison Vitality just have not had any good deep runs in playoffs of big events. Neither ZywOo or NiKo have any MVPs so NiKo just wins out clearly in this comparison. As of now it's probably 1) s1mple 2) sh1ro 3) Ax1le 4) NiKo 5) Hobbit 6) ZywOo 7) maybe dev1ce. The thing is NiKo has had crazy ratings in Big event playoff runs, while ZywOo's team just hasn't been there for most of the year. Also, of course Ax1le, sh1ro and Hobbit have actually lifted trophies which probably puts them above ZywOo.
2021-11-11 02:40
3 replies
#262
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Other Bactuga
Ax1le wont get top 3. NiKo, ZywOo and possibly Hobbit will stay above him, his LAN performances are really bad, he only did good at the first half of the year where Gambit was winning every tournament they played on and remember that HLTV counts way more LAN stats than Online
2021-11-11 06:11
5/8 as i think more of 1) s1mple 2) shi1ro 3) ZywOo 4) NiKo
2021-11-11 10:47
1 reply
I really can't see why NiKo would be below ZywOo. ZywOo's team has made playoffs like 3 times this year, has made 1 final, and barely any top 4-top8s. G2 has been top 4 in like all except 2 tournaments, top 2 in the 2 biggest tournaments of the year (Cologne and Major), and NiKo had a great rating in both of those massive tournaments. ZywOo in 2021 is like s1mple in 2017, obviously a super skilled player, but his team just hasn't been doing enough to justify a higher placing.
2021-11-11 16:56
#249
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Austria Grundz
Sh1ro will lock in #2. Zywoo hasn't won shit this year and might drop down to 4 behind Sh1ro and NiKo
2021-11-11 02:51
it's always stats, so zywoo will see if mvp counts, then shiro but without good team it's rare to win mvp, so mvp is a team achievement
2021-11-11 02:53
Shiro most likely
2021-11-11 03:54
anyone saying anything else than zywoo is completely deluded and i will make fun of you in january
2021-11-11 03:56
#255
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North America BoDaddy
It should be Sh1ro
2021-11-11 04:02
#2 sh1ro just a fact
2021-11-11 05:10
I don't think it will be sh1ro but I definitely hope, lol
2021-11-11 05:57
#263
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Other Bactuga
2. sh1ro 3. zywoo 4. niko 5. hobbit 6. ax1le
2021-11-11 06:11
#264
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United States Jeebur
Right now Sh1ro because of his rating, gambits success, and his 2 ratings. But depending how the last few events go i think NiKo has a shot
2021-11-11 06:15
there is no way b1t is in top5 this year guys. Check the stats anda be realistic.
2021-11-11 06:26
NiKo bc form in major play huge part on hltv list
2021-11-11 06:26
Me, i am going to be no 2 in 2021. FaZe just contacted me to play instead of olof. No 2 i am coming.
2021-11-11 06:41
#275
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Should be either sh1ro or NiKo
2021-11-11 09:05
b1t
2021-11-11 09:38
Rez
2021-11-11 12:53
#287
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Germany Dayjay
f0rest
2021-11-11 12:54
1. S1mple 2. Lucky
2021-11-11 20:02
#296
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Russia Lordon
2. sh1ro 3. Hobbit 4. Ax1Le 5. ZywOo
2021-11-11 20:06
Papatronic
2021-11-11 20:08
#298
NAF | 
Asia aref81
2_sh1rio 3_NiKo 4_Hobbit 5_zywoo
2021-11-11 20:09
Choko
2021-11-11 20:16
#305
OK | 
United States maidz4
B1T LMAO
2021-11-12 01:03
ZywOo or NiKo, MAYBE sh1ro but he played like shit on LAN again. ZywOo is better than NiKo and won more and got more MVPs but it all depends on how HLTV weight the Major. Excluding the Major, it's ZywOo by a longshot, but NiKo played lights out at the Major. I think it will be ZywOo 2, NiKo 3, sh1ro 4.
2021-11-12 01:04
1 reply
#310
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North America 007DBR9
+1
2021-11-12 22:11
not my idol zypoo he's finished
2021-11-12 20:22
#309
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North America 007DBR9
z ywoo easily, his rating is just so much higher than everyone elses, especially if towards the end of the year vitality win something it's locked in
2021-11-12 22:11
#311
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxyownz
zywoo, his rating is just too high despite not having won shit sh1ro for achievements despite awp abusing after niko for hard carrying g2 after
2021-11-12 22:13
I wonder why device isn't in contention hmmmmmm
2021-11-13 14:49
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