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Who's TOP5?
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Russia bruh_moment_1 
s1mple sh1ro zywoo NiKo top4 with almost no doubts is complete, who's gonna take the 5th spot? imo it can be electronic, hobbit or ax1le
2021-11-25 12:39
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#1
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Sweden SamBbbb
s1mple NiKo sh1ro ZywOo Hobbit ( ax1le hasn't been performing well recently )
2021-11-25 12:44
17 replies
+1
2021-11-25 13:03
Elec won the major
2021-11-25 13:04
8 replies
#16
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Sweden SamBbbb
Could be him as well, I just picked Hobbit because he's older and his rating is slightly higher. I would say it's kind of a 50/50 who gets top 5.
2021-11-25 13:06
#23
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Bangladesh Santho
so? hobbit won multiple trophies in 2021 as well + has way better rating and impact By your logic top 5 would be like s1mple, electronic, b1t, perfecto, boombl4
2021-11-25 13:14
3 replies
So why s1mple hasn't got #1 in 2019? Trophies matter a lot my friend.
2021-11-27 11:01
2 replies
#78
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Bangladesh Santho
because zywoo had better rating? Lol you just proved my point Zywoo 1.32, 1.26 vs top 5, 1.28 vs top 10 (most meaningful stats vs top 5 and 10 rest are farming). Not to mention that Zywoo had almost 2x more maps vs top 10 than s1mple and still better rating vs top 10 hltv.org/stats/players/11893/zywoo?start.. S1mple 1.30, 1.18 vs top 5, 1.22 vs top 10 hltv.org/stats/players/7998/s1mple?start.. And that's why Zywoo was top 1 :)
2021-11-27 11:57
zywoo had more mvps no?
2021-11-27 12:00
hobbit got some mvps tho
2021-11-27 12:46
#95
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Europe headwick
no, s1mple did
2021-11-27 13:29
No MVPs (Hobbit has two), less impact, less rating. Elec will be high, but not above Hobbit
2021-11-27 14:04
BIT and Electronic ???
2021-11-25 14:01
3 replies
2021-11-25 14:15
2 replies
ty for this.
2021-11-25 15:39
+1
2021-11-26 02:55
+1111
2021-11-25 16:29
0/8
2021-11-26 16:22
#2
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Russia AskeladdVT
s1mple zywoo NiKo sh1ro electronic
2021-11-25 12:46
5 replies
#82
NiKo | 
Sweden Rifile
even as a niko fan i think shiro is above him but im still so goddamn proud that niko as a rifler can rank so high
2021-11-27 12:09
4 replies
Sh1ro is k/d player. Niko definitely has waay more impact than sh1ro and should be above him.
2021-11-27 12:48
3 replies
sure but sh1ro will be ranked higher whether you like it or not
2021-11-27 13:56
2 replies
I wouldnt be so sure about it tbh. Niko is so much ahead in impact rating and his major stats were through the roof. Sh1ro performance goes down vs top 5 and top 10 when niko does the opposite.
2021-11-27 15:31
yeah thats what i think to. He has a higher rating 2021 and i think 3 mvps? Even if Niko has carried g2 recently hltv will choose shiro third or second and i don't actually blame them
2021-11-27 17:49
#3
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
I really want electronic to be there, but I think hobbit will take number5
2021-11-25 12:47
14 replies
hobbit should as he has 2 mvps if iirc and more evps than elec
2021-11-27 12:01
8 replies
#81
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Romania alexinio05
yeah I don't think there's any chance that elec will be top5 lmao, I mean, hobbit has better stats, more mvps, the only thing elec has is a major but idk if that's enough
2021-11-27 12:06
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tournament wins themselves are not that important the only things ranking really takes in are mvps evps maps played vs top 30/20 teams and rating obviously but rating vs top5 or top10 are meaningless in ranking standard same with lan as its corona time
2021-11-27 12:41
#89
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
2021-11-27 13:05
5 replies
you can't want someone to be in the top 5 if they haven't well deserved it at least in my opinion
2021-11-27 13:25
4 replies
#96
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
Ofc you can, ppl are saying that zywoo should be #2, but he clearly doesn’t deserve it, too 3-4 at max. Sh1ro or niko should be getting top 2 this year. If elec would have 1-2 mvp. He should be top 5, but he doesn’t, that why I’m saying that I just want him to be top5, you can count this as a dream, because chances of this are very slim. If elec doesn’t put up godlike numbers, hobbit is top 5
2021-11-27 13:37
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in what way does zywoo not deserve? statistically he should get it also elec just won't be able to even get an mvp with s1mple on his team its kinda impossible
2021-11-27 13:52
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#98
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
In #80 you talk about mvps, shiro has 3 already and his stats aren’t too far off zywoo. I know that it’s irrelevant how many finals you got up to, and how many events you won, by zywoo was only in one final, where as sh1ro has been in around dozen finals And yeah, elec has 1 mvp in his career, and even that event they didn’t win x Upd: I might have underestimated the difference between sh1ro and zywoo
2021-11-27 13:57
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hltv.org/stats/players/11893/zywoo?start.. zywoo stats hltv.org/stats/players/16920/sh1ro?start.. sh1ro stats due to everything being online rankings are focused on all matches in the top 30 (before it was just big events) statistically zywoo has a .05 lead which is pretty big and sh1ro statistically would have 3 mvps and lets say 4-6 evps as i haven't been following gambit that much while zywoo has 2-5 evps even tho theres a huge difference in evps and mvps lets take a look at last year electronic had a 1.14 rating and like 9 evps and an mvp or something stupid and he placed 5th in 4th place NiKo with 5 evps and a rating of 1.19 ranked above him and niko had no mvps*
2021-11-27 14:03
Hate to break it to you but electronic has no chance of top 5.
2021-11-27 12:50
4 replies
#88
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
I think this is exactly what I said? I said I WANT him to be in top 5, and not saying that he will.
2021-11-27 13:05
3 replies
Why say you want something that cant happen?
2021-11-27 15:25
2 replies
Because it is the American dream for me
2021-11-27 15:51
1 reply
Maybe next year.
2021-11-27 15:52
NiKo Ax1le Hobbit electronic B1T AWP abusers doesn't count
2021-11-25 12:47
1 reply
+1 real top5
2021-11-25 14:01
Idk but I'd definitely let Twistzz top me 5 times
2021-11-25 12:48
1 reply
#74
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India Lunat1c777
Wrong flair
2021-11-26 16:33
k0nfig (because 1.52 rating) s1mple zywoo NiKo
2021-11-25 12:50
7 replies
K0nfig was beast yesterday But I mean seriously, who's gonna be the top5?
2021-11-25 12:51
5 replies
Twistzz or ropz for the 5th spot probably
2021-11-25 13:09
4 replies
#20
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Bangladesh Santho
wtf? XD They are not even close to hobbit in 2021 for example I doubt twistzz with his funny rating will be even in top 10
2021-11-25 13:12
3 replies
yeah, but it's mostly online, i know there's not been a lot of lan, but i think it will have a bit more impact
2021-11-25 13:50
2 replies
Faze/mouz haven’t even made playoffs at those LAN events lol, even at eu RMR qualifier which was held on lan You’re funny
2021-11-25 14:02
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they had better individual performances, idk why you guys are getting so upset about it, he just asked my serious opinion and i told him.
2021-11-25 14:13
+1
2021-11-25 12:51
s1mple sh1ro ZywOo NiKo electronic
2021-11-25 12:51
s1mple n2ko sh3ro zy4oo b5t
2021-11-25 12:52
Hobbit
2021-11-25 12:55
#12
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United Kingdom DB_R20
s1mple sh1ro NiKo ZywOo 5th player depends on team form for the rest of the year, k0nfig has a shout of getting there if he continues form
2021-11-25 12:56
2 replies
0/8
2021-11-26 16:23
Zywoo s1mple Niko Device Ropz
2021-11-25 12:59
3 replies
#18
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Korea ramza72
the fuck ? ropz ? electronic achivement and skill still insane today he is top 5 player from 2018 you put ropz over elec explain pls ?
2021-11-25 13:09
2 replies
#22
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Bangladesh Santho
you put elec over hobbit explain pls?
2021-11-25 13:13
farming ruskis online doesn't count
2021-11-26 16:20
#19
Dosia | 
Russia Rapu
Hobbit probably.
2021-11-25 13:11
#21
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Bangladesh Santho
top 1 s1mple rest: sh1ro/zywoo niko hobbit
2021-11-25 13:12
#24
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Other Zollbit
Hobbit or Ax1lr I guess. But the real question is what the top 15-20 will be
2021-11-25 13:16
Hobbit easily tbh unless elec wins last 2 mvps
2021-11-25 13:16
kjaerbye nr 1
2021-11-25 13:18
#27
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Denmark Pand43N
okay so, there is still a few matches left of 2021, but 1st and 2nd place are locked in. 1 - s1mple 2 - ZywOo 3/4 - sh1ro 3/4 - NiKo 5/6 - Hobbit 5/6 - device 3-6 depends on the last matches. But if nothing out of the ordinary happens, the above is the order, when looking on ratings top 10.
2021-11-25 13:19
13 replies
do you think zywoo's 2nd place is locked?
2021-11-25 13:43
3 replies
#43
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Denmark Pand43N
Yep its certain, with rank 10 stats. Even though personally i feel like sh1ro have accomplished more with mvps. ZywOo just have quite a gap to sh1ro with the stats.
2021-11-25 14:14
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#51
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Bangladesh Santho
Imagine zywoo with players like hobbit+Ax1le or b1t+electronic in a team. Vitality instantly top 1 winning every trophy with Zywoo getting 1.40+ average rating in a year. Victories = higher rating Maybe it will happen in 2022 with Dupreeh and Magisk if they will play good (and if apex can call in english)
2021-11-25 14:33
1 reply
#52
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Denmark Pand43N
hmm perhabs ur right. its defniately going to be exiting with all the changes after the major. we have so many teams who switch a lot up. its nice for a change. as of right now Navi is just miles ahead of everyone else, so not so sure zywOo will be top 1 in 2022. I think vitality will take some time to get really good.
2021-11-25 14:48
#29
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Germany Matrixrl1
switch zywoo and shiro
2021-11-25 13:47
6 replies
Sh1ro will be top4 with his 1.10 impact rating
2021-11-25 13:49
5 replies
#32
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Germany Matrixrl1
but he has many tournament wins and MVPs and HLTV also counts team achievements
2021-11-25 13:50
4 replies
Individual stats are first, mvp are used when players are close
2021-11-25 14:10
3 replies
#41
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Germany Matrixrl1
fairs. would that mean 1 Simple 2 Zywoo 3 NiKo 4 Shiro 5 .... or what
2021-11-25 14:12
2 replies
Niko has a lower basic rating than sh1ro, the first stat is rating then elite event rating then impact / mvp etc.. so niko will only be top4/5 i think
2021-11-25 14:21
1 reply
#47
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Germany Matrixrl1
fair enough. i didnt know how it exactly worked
2021-11-25 14:26
device??He is nowhere near top5-6,9-10th at best.
2021-11-27 13:25
1 reply
#109
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Denmark Pand43N
raw top 10 stats, he is.
2021-11-29 09:13
NiKo> Zywoo just because of his carry
2021-11-25 13:50
4 replies
I like your flair
2021-11-25 14:28
3 replies
I hate your team unfortunately .They did sanji dirty :(
2021-11-25 15:39
2 replies
okay it's not the team who did this btw, the org did
2021-11-25 16:27
1 reply
Yeah. still reason enough to not like vp
2021-11-25 17:02
Hobbit without a doubt
2021-11-25 13:50
lol I just posted the leaked top 5, Jame is 5
2021-11-25 13:59
1 reply
Nice
2021-11-25 14:28
Either hobbit or b1t imo
2021-11-25 14:11
Hobbit > sh1ro
2021-11-25 14:23
1. ZywOo ________________ 2.s1mple 3. sh1ro 4.Hobbit 5. NiKo
2021-11-25 14:29
1.S1mple 2.Zywoo/Sh1ro 3.Zywoo/Sh1ro 4.Hobbit/Niko 5.Hobbit/Niko
2021-11-25 14:50
elec or b1t surely h0bbit also a contender
2021-11-25 16:29
s1mple sh1ro zywoo hobbit niko
2021-11-26 02:59
#62
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Sweden kAED
S1mple Shiro zywho hobbit niko axile - - B1T
2021-11-26 03:01
s1mple NiKo ZywOo sh1ro hobbit This is how it should be, unfortunately, sh1ro overrated onliner will get 2nd
2021-11-26 03:01
#66
Jame | 
France masnoi
electronic s1mple perfecto b1t boombl4
2021-11-26 16:22
2 replies
No jame?
2021-11-26 16:31
1 reply
#75
Jame | 
France masnoi
really thought of him
2021-11-26 17:21
Out of respect, I will keep device until they are eliminated at this Blast event. Then, I would add electronic because this dude deserves all the praise for being one of the most insane players for years living in the shadow of s1mple. b1t is nuts, but electronic is playing just as good if not better and is thr backbone of Navi in mid-round calling, gaining space, reading the opponent... and owning a lot of land outside in nuke where he is untouchable.
2021-11-26 16:29
1 Simple 2 Shiro 3 Zywoo 4 Hobbit 5 Axile ------------- 6 Niko
2021-11-27 11:18
#84
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Europe S3pp
ropz way better than electronic
2021-11-27 12:43
2 replies
nt prodka, ropz is nothing
2021-11-27 13:15
1 reply
hes not prokda wtf
2021-11-27 13:17
niko is out of top 10
2021-11-27 13:14
s1mple sh1ro NiKo Zywoo *
2021-11-27 14:01
#101
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Netherlands RC1XBET
1. s1mple 2. NiKo 3. sh1ro 4. Hobbit 5. B1T Zywoo doesn't belong in top5
2021-11-27 14:02
1. S1mple 2. sh1ro/ZywOo (Im a zywoo fanboy but it feels like sh1ro has it) 4. Hobbit 5. Ax1le
2021-11-29 09:19
1 reply
6. NiKo because he was less consistent than Gambit trio, has less MVP and rating is very close for them
2021-11-29 09:19
#112
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Ukraine sanchell1
yekindar top16
2021-11-29 09:22
#113
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United States kalimbo
b1t
2021-11-29 09:23
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