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THIS SHOULD OF BEEN
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Croatia feelsbadmane 
The major final....unlucky Heroic choked against G2 but they are for sure only team in the world atm who can win vs navi,anyways lets go ez win now on overpass!
2021-11-25 18:19
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+1 you got such a great team man, stavn and teses are still underrated af. cadians passion is cool to see as well.
2021-11-25 18:21
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#19
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Sweden fantaoskar
-1 no cheaters allowed in final
2021-11-25 18:35
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didnt ask for your opinion
2021-11-25 18:36
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#22
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Sweden fantaoskar
didnt ask for your opinion
2021-11-25 18:37
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+1
2021-11-25 18:44
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+1 on your name
2021-11-25 18:48
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+1 ON YOUR NAME :D
2021-11-25 18:48
#60
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Poland Hanse
+1
2021-11-25 18:48
+1
2021-11-25 18:43
+1
2021-11-25 18:41
Unlike NAVI, Heroic has zero players with a confirmed history of cheating.
2021-11-25 18:52
+1
2021-11-25 18:43
Hahaha imagine thinking heroic has a chance. You know why navi didn't play nuke ? Because they don't want to risk their nuke win streak but they win nuke vs them 90% of the time
2021-11-25 18:22
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they didnt pick it cuz they are scared of heroic nuke obv!
2021-11-25 18:23
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Yeah very scared, heroic are bots not to mention that they have an impostor among them
2021-11-25 18:24
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#21
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Latvia Gadmin
who imposter???
2021-11-25 18:36
lmao Navi win 1 major and you guys are so cocky, incredible, there will never be a Navi era. Every time they look good they start being bad again.
2021-11-25 18:40
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And grand slam and pretty much every tournament this year, seems like you forgot how navi fanbase and team were bullied since 2015 on hltv well it's our time now. Navi showed heroic how to play cs and now go cry! It's a whole different navi now, they even have notes and bla1d3 takes it very serious. That's why navi strats > heroic
2021-11-25 18:43
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"It's a whole different Navi now"! We hear that every single time Navi wins a tournament hahaha. And good job winning the weakest major ever. Handicapped Astralis, Vitality playing like ass and doing roster changes, Gambit are onliners. Amazing!
2021-11-25 18:46
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navi 2021 are liquid 2019, but there was no astralis anymore. idk if liquid are unlucky or navi are lucky
2021-11-25 18:47
Haha you really are dumb are you ? Navi has the perfect roster with no weak links that's why they're the best, not because of fluke. There is no team except navi that has won the major without dropping a single map, cry my boy
2021-11-25 18:48
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who said it was a fluke? he said there were no real s-tier teams at the tournament besides navi and yeah he was right
2021-11-25 18:50
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And how did astralis dominate ? Right, every team was weak. Vitality had problems, sk fell off, navi zeus and flamie and so on. You can say it about any team
2021-11-25 18:51
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can't remember a single astralis major win against solely handicapped teams/onliners
2021-11-25 18:54
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You either have bad memory or have no idea about esports and basic understanding of cs
2021-11-25 18:55
Sure buddy, back to seeing Navi fans cry in a month because they are are inconsistent af
2021-11-25 18:50
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Okay I will come back in a month
2021-11-25 18:51
I think you've gone a tad too far bud. The lowest-ranked opposition they faced was VP, who were ranked 11th. It was a good major run
2021-11-25 18:54
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I'm not saying they didn't deserve to win, they were the best team, but the competition they were against was not impressive
2021-11-25 18:56
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Going by your logic Astralis' win at Kato 2019 wasn't that impressive as well.
2021-11-25 18:57
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Interesting, what teams were handicapped or underperforming?
2021-11-25 18:58
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IMHO It's not about underperforming or not. It's about the competition they had to face to get to the title. Astralis faced a good but not great NiP, a great but past their peak MIBR, and an overperforming ENCE. Na'Vi faced an underperforming Vitality, an inexperienced Gambit, and a one-man team in G2. You can say that both major runs were mediocre tbf.
2021-11-25 19:03
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Difference being Astralis were LEVELS above what Navi are today. Competition would look easy no matter who they faced
2021-11-25 19:05
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In terms of team play, absolutely. They were deities back then. In terms of individual skill? Not really. Don't act as if the gap is that far.
2021-11-25 19:10
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The gap is absolutely that far, are you kidding? Astralis specialized in shutting down star players and teams relying on individual skill. It would not even be a contest
2021-11-25 19:11
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Can't argue with that. Can't really argue about the weakest major thing, too, to be fair. No major winner had had such a comfortable run before, even Fnatic when they were at their peak had to face teams like LDLC, NiP, and EnVy on a consistent basis. SK, too, with VP and Liquid. Let's just see if this current Na'Vi can win a real major with everyone performing at their expected levels. If they can, they're in the discussion for the 2nd best team ever. If they can't, then they're fraudulent
2021-11-25 19:16
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agreed mostly, i think it will take a lot more than another major win to surpass fnatic tho
2021-11-25 19:17
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Personally for me 2 majors + another IGS. If that happens that moves them to 3rd. Another major after that would move them into the GTOAT discussion
2021-11-25 19:20
Dude how are you better than navi fans? Navi is clearly better than anyone has ever been. I already know you will say astralis was better, I will say that no the meta has changed and improved, if you don't agree with this nip is the best team there ever was etc. what is the point, just accept navi is the best, heroic is no where close and thats it
2021-11-25 20:23
navi fanbase was and is bullied cos of toxicity and disrespect. avg navi fan age must be 14 yo
2021-11-25 18:46
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I don't think 14 yo kids are this immature xD
2021-11-25 18:48
I mean they have been dominating for about 4 months now ever since they beat Gambit at the StarLadder RMR. They have only lost 1 tournament in that period. So, honestly, saying that Na'Vi don't have any potential of having an era is like saying that s1mple is not the best player in the world. They have way too much firepower to not have one unless b1t and elec start playing like crap all the time.
2021-11-25 18:50
#8
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Italy I_like_csgo
>imagine thinking heroic has a chance >dont want to risk their nuke win streak So if Navi didn't want Nuke to be the third map then they literally thought that Heroic had a chance, according to your own logic.
2021-11-25 18:24
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Navi need to train their overpass against low level teams and heroic are perfect for that
2021-11-25 18:25
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Lmao then why did they to lose to "low level team" in their own map pick
2021-11-25 18:32
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And why did heroic lose their map pick when navi didn't touch inferno in ages ?
2021-11-25 18:35
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#35
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Denmark Mister_A
Because navi is the best team in the world stupid
2021-11-25 18:42
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No shit sherlock, navi are the best white team ever!
2021-11-25 18:43
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#53
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Denmark Mister_A
Then why are you asking dumb questions you cuck
2021-11-25 18:47
You're just roasting your own team constantly because you can't follow your own logic lol
2021-11-25 18:44
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You can't follow my logic, I recommend getting common sense
2021-11-25 18:45
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I did follow your logic and you roasted Navi with it. I recommend hltv.org/logout
2021-11-25 18:46
holy copium overdose
2021-11-25 18:25
#3
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Italy I_like_csgo
G2 also could have beaten Navi if it wasn't for that deagle shot. Mirage would've been wide open for either team
2021-11-25 18:22
No, Na'vi practicing their worst map
2021-11-25 18:23
+1 I really feel like heroic is the only team that could beat NaVi even if they are not as dominant against other teams
2021-11-25 18:23
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I agree, they are like Na'vi's kryptonite.
2021-11-25 18:38
this grammar mistake is so retarded. Like its impossible that people who make it have more than 80iq
2021-11-25 18:25
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I can accept it from people for whom English is not their native language. But native speakers? Must be retarded.
2021-11-25 18:26
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i think its the opposite. I think people who learn english will never even think of making it. But those natives who are bit less intelligent might type it that way just because of phonetics. btw i see it veeery often on the fifa subreddit, where there are a lot of brits
2021-11-25 18:31
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+1
2021-11-25 18:39
I think people just learn it from natives who make the mistake because they are dumb. Mind you it's not only a written error, many natives actually clearly pronounce it "should of" instead of "should've".
2021-11-25 18:42
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Russia lo0u
Yeah. People who actually study English coming from a different language, actually know that is wrong to say "should of", because we spend a lot of time studying little things like these, while native speakers just speak.
2021-11-25 18:43
Ironic considering you completely misused "whom" lmao
2021-11-25 18:41
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#64
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Russia Drapery
no he didn't you're just dumb
2021-11-25 18:50
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Show that sentence to your english teacher and you'll learn something :)
2021-11-25 18:50
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#72
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Russia Drapery
ludwig.guru/s/people+for+whom Here's some examples of the same grammatical construction he used here. Look that up and you'll learn something.
2021-11-25 18:54
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"used instead of ‘who’ as the object of a verb or preposition.".... what do you guys learn in school..
2021-11-25 18:55
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#82
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Russia Drapery
I literally sent you the same thing from the official English sources like "The Guardian". Wtf are you still arguing about exactly.
2021-11-25 19:01
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Yes, and in those sentences "used instead of ‘who’ as the object of a verb or preposition." applies. Please tell me how it applies to the sentence the guy wrote.
2021-11-25 19:07
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#94
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Russia Drapery
"I can accept it from people for whom English is not their native language." "I know very few people for whom it is." Tell me how these are not two grammatically indentical sentences.
2021-11-25 19:16
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Tell me how whom here is used as the object of a verb or preposition! Give me the analysis, because you cant
2021-11-25 19:18
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#98
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Russia Drapery
I feel like you're the exact type of a kid who still tries to look intelligent after being exposed being stupid.
2021-11-25 19:27
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I'm literally asking you to tell me how the rule applies here, because it does not. You could just tell me
2021-11-25 19:29
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"from people for whom" "whom" is used as an object for the preposition "for". how fucking retarded are you?
2021-11-25 19:37
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For can be a preposition if followed by a noun, whom is a pronoun, not a noun. Therefore it's wrong
2021-11-25 19:41
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"For can be a preposition if followed by a noun" Yes, and that noun can be replaced by a pronoun. It's in the name! ProNOUN! That's literally what a pronoun is for! Holy shit you are delusional. I'm done with your trolling. It's a shame when people can't admit when they are wrong.
2021-11-25 19:48
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Google "can a pronoun be a noun" and you will see it cannot. Therefore it does not apply to grammatical rules
2021-11-25 19:49
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"Pronouns and nouns occupy the same point in the sentence syntactically and have the same function, so pronouns are a type of noun. Pronouns are simply used instead of giving the noun its proper name, e.g. 'he' instead of 'Socrates'."
2021-11-25 19:50
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And that has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Jesus
2021-11-25 19:51
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Jesus won't help you, you are simply wrong. You are SEETHING. There's nothing you can do to correct your mistake anymore, and it must feel devastating. Meanwhile, I am grinning as I watch you type yet another bullshit retort. I am absolutely loving it.
2021-11-25 19:55
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That's you, minus the mask.
2021-11-25 20:02
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very original
2021-11-25 20:06
#104
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Russia Drapery
The rule applies here because "for" is a preposition and you only use "whom" with prepositions not "who". Me telling you that is of course irrelevant since you clearly don't understand the rule.
2021-11-25 19:42
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For can be a preposition if followed by a noun, whom is a pronoun, not a noun. Therefore it's wrong
2021-11-25 19:43
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#108
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Russia Drapery
it's still a preposition even if it's followed by a pronoun, it can only not be a preposition if it's used as a conjuction. If you google stuff try to at least get what it's actually saying.
2021-11-25 19:49
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wrong.
2021-11-25 19:49
Just ignore him dude, at this point he is just trolling both of us. What a sad life!
2021-11-25 19:49
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#113
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Russia Drapery
Nah I think he's just upset he's wrong and can't accept a defeat. Childish mindset.
2021-11-25 19:51
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Danish mindset.
2021-11-25 19:52
Whom is the object there
2021-11-25 19:35
wtf is going on here? "from people for whom" is grammatically correct and I used it in a way that makes perfect sense. just type "from people for whom" into Google with the quotation marks and you'll find countless of examples of the same exact phrase being used in all kinds of literature. a very pointless and embarrassing self-own from you, my man.
2021-11-25 19:38
+1 It's the single worst mistake to make when it comes to english
2021-11-25 18:27
what mistake
2021-11-25 18:38
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Should of been
2021-11-25 18:39
Agree, it's like people collectively decided to become more stupid.
2021-11-25 18:47
should have*
2021-11-25 18:26
#15
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United Kingdom Samfo7
+1 I'd say they're comfortably 2nd best team, G2 relies too much on individual performances. Although new Astralis has potential to challenge them maybe. Imagine how good Heroic will be if someone tells Teses how to hold a mouse though.
2021-11-25 18:29
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comfortably 2nd best team hasnt made finals at an event since march
2021-11-25 18:49
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#87
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United Kingdom Samfo7
Yeah comfortably is the wrong word they're not that far ahead, just in my opinion they have the best chance to challenge Navi.
2021-11-25 19:06
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well that is objectively true tho they are the only team to have actually came so close to beating navi recently
2021-11-26 23:01
#27
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Hungary zy_k
this was not the same Na'Vi that played on the major, just sayin
2021-11-25 18:40
ez win
2021-11-25 18:40
#30
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Mongolia heedblank
The crowd would have fucked heroic even harder than G2
2021-11-25 18:41
#31
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Belarus Khosrau
lets be real if navi didnt wake up late on mirage it would have been a quick 2-0
2021-11-25 18:41
*should have
2021-11-25 18:41
#37
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Latvia TIBR0X
yea yea i guess nice try no one beats them
2021-11-25 18:42
#38
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Denmark valt3rr
I love Navi but only reason i don't want them to win some games are because of the fans lmao
2021-11-25 18:42
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Hehe I'm not toxic though
2021-11-25 18:46
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#83
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Denmark valt3rr
I know <3
2021-11-25 19:01
Have been* stop ruining the language.
2021-11-25 18:46
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this is internet bro,i already dropped out of uni fck that shit
2021-11-25 18:47
in 2-3 months i think astralis can beat them as well maybe vitality atm too, the scene will become more competitive for 1st place than it's right now in a couple of months
2021-11-25 18:51
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Astralis have to get rid of Lucky though. Maybe get Farlig/nicoodoz
2021-11-25 18:58
#76
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Croatia Momaq
nah thank god cheaters didnt make it to the major final
2021-11-25 18:55
"unlucky Heroic choked against G2" if anyone choked that game it was G2, from 13-6 to OT
2021-11-25 19:02
Heroic Navi matches are better than G2 Navi
2021-11-25 19:08
Should of? Should have* Weirdo
2021-11-25 19:18
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Laundres just said could of been,its a internet language get use to it its 2021...same with alot its not A LOT its ALOT
2021-11-25 19:55
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LMAO
2021-11-25 21:25
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