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rate my top 20
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South Africa RHODESIANS_NEVER_DIE 
1) s1mple 2) sh1ro 3) zywoo 4) niko 5) stavn 6) electronic 7) ax1le 8) hobbit 9) b1t 10) device 11) hunter 12) yekindar 13) Cadian 14) elige 15) broky 16) ropz 17) kserato 18) Jame 19) twistzz 20) frozen
2021-11-28 00:05
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0/8
2021-11-28 00:06
9 replies
why?
2021-11-28 00:06
8 replies
niko too low
2021-11-28 00:06
6 replies
why? Nico didnt win a single tournament + sh1ro got lots of MVPs
2021-11-28 00:07
4 replies
Then how do you explain stavn so high over electronic, hobbit and axile?
2021-11-28 11:53
3 replies
TeSeS and refrezh underrated btw
2021-11-28 13:42
2 replies
Yes, they are, they could be around #15 #17 ish this year. But this still doesn't answer my question about stavn. Stavn is around #13-#15 ish this year
2021-11-28 16:49
1 reply
I mean that manchild is cracked. He deserves that spot.
2021-11-29 12:37
Nah, stavn is too high
2021-11-28 16:46
#96
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Ukraine Slavv_Boss
I don’t understand why stavn is too 5? It’s should be hobbit
2021-11-28 14:57
0/8
2021-11-28 00:06
hobbit above ax1le and idk about stavn that high, otherwise decent list, the rest make logical sense
2021-11-28 00:08
#7
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Sweden naztyy
shitty list tbh ZywOo > sh1ro stavn is not #5 b1t is not in the top 10
2021-11-28 00:07
13 replies
wtf???? B1t is god and he deserved to be in top 10, stavn is so cool player and very consistent , zywoo > shiro?????? Wtf, makes no sence
2021-11-28 00:08
11 replies
#13
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Sweden naztyy
hltv.org/stats/players/18987/b1t?startDa.. B1t stats in the entire year 2021
2021-11-28 00:09
7 replies
1 reply
this isnt 2018 rankings don't work like that anymore but its all matches and top 30
2021-11-28 11:50
#23
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Austria Grundz
Lan will be weighed probably 10x more heavily than online and the kid has a 1.28 or some shit. Also, he won a major...with a 1.27 rating. And a grand slam.
2021-11-28 00:15
4 replies
#37
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Sweden naztyy
Not enough to make him top 10
2021-11-28 01:21
3 replies
If NAVI wins the Fall Finals and B1t has a high rating+mvp I can see top 10 happening
2021-11-28 02:44
1 reply
well if navi wins more tournament, simple will be again mvp
2021-11-28 13:08
agree right now he is not top-10, but he got a chence to get there, he might take mvp of this blast and also if he performe good in blast 1kk finals he have pretty good chance to take top-10
2021-11-28 12:22
ZywOo will be #2 this year
2021-11-28 00:22
2 replies
Nah, I do not think so, unless he wins blast now or take MVP
2021-11-28 10:52
1 reply
#58
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Estonia ZedarZ
Mvps don't matter in the top20 ranking tho, if they did then dev1ce would've been nr2 in 2019
2021-11-28 11:21
+1
2021-11-28 11:01
#8
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
Is this all time or current or at peak ?
2021-11-28 00:07
5 replies
it's a top of 2021
2021-11-28 00:08
4 replies
#15
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
Ah.... It's decent. Personally NiKo would be Higher. Zywoo lower. Dev1ce is plus minus at right spot. I would add Hobbit definitely instead of Jame... but overall okayish. I think it's a decent take. Definitely could be better but a decent take.
2021-11-28 00:11
3 replies
"I would add Hobbit definitely instead of Jame..." ??? Elaborate
2021-11-28 00:12
2 replies
#24
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
Hobbit has been more impactful player than jame... and has won more as well. He would be making an appearance in top.20
2021-11-28 00:17
1 reply
did u read my thread???? Hobbit is on the 8th place and Jame is on the 18th
2021-11-28 00:18
Hobbit 30x better than ax1le
2021-11-28 00:08
If its 2021, Niko is too low and dev1ce is too high. No offence to his fanbois but he kinda svck
2021-11-28 00:09
3 replies
I mean yea. But if you check the hltv stats in 2021. He is still there, on both online and LAN On top of that, he played good on this tournament, if you check stats + impact rounds tho
2021-11-28 00:12
2 replies
Still doesn't deserve top10.
2021-11-28 00:12
1 reply
Your opinion, but saying he kinda sucks, after winning IEM rmr mvp and showing up in this BLAST, it's a bit weird no? :p
2021-11-28 00:14
1) s1mple 2) sh1ro 3) zywoo 4) Hobbit 5) Niko 6) electronic 7) ax1le 8) device 9) stavn 10) Jame
2021-11-28 00:12
7 replies
1) Why hobbit is above niko? 2) Why device is above stavn? Makes no sence bruh
2021-11-28 00:13
6 replies
1) Hobbit 2 mvp in 2021 while niko has 0 2) this one is my personal favorite, stats better I guess
2021-11-28 00:18
3 replies
#46
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Biske
iem winter coming babyyy
2021-11-28 11:03
2 replies
G2 with kennys won't win it
2021-11-28 11:04
1 reply
#49
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Biske
nikola top1 igl bro wdym
2021-11-28 11:04
Jame out of top 10 8) Stavn/B1t 9) B1T/Stavn 10) Device Pretty sure we gonna see b1t having a jump
2021-11-28 00:20
Why niko so high. He achieved nothing in this year.
2021-11-28 11:15
#20
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Germany Teztyment
Good list. I think sh1ro is better than zywoo too.
2021-11-28 00:13
dude ill be honest ur list is scuffed asf. Just 1 example bit is number 9 and stavn number 5 in no world what so ever is he as good as b1t.
2021-11-28 00:21
My top-5: 1) k0nfig 2) lucky 3) blamef 4) gla1ve 5) xyp9x
2021-11-28 00:21
2 replies
good one
2021-11-28 00:21
xyp9x???
2021-11-28 13:41
this is very bad
2021-11-28 00:27
#33
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Austria Grundz
It is possible that NiKo ends up at 3 and Zywoo falls to 4. Accomplishments mean a lot. B1t will be higher, side by side with Elec Hobbit above Ax1le Ax1le out of top 10, replaced by ??? Device at 11, hunter at 10 Broky and Twistzz trade places. Rest looks kind of realistic though. B1t will end up much higher than people think because his lan rating is insane.
2021-11-28 00:28
#34
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Bulgaria KonpaZ
why sh1ro 2nd?
2021-11-28 00:31
#35
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Norway botky
we need to wait for this blast to end... need to add k0nfig to the list if he destroys vitality aswell.. otherwise quite good list, will be fun to compare what you got right.
2021-11-28 00:34
Proper list by hltv logic: (dont hate on me, i am just using hltv logic and understandings from past top 20 lists. 1. S1mple (cant say anytihng about that, he has 6 mvps all from tier 1 and 2 from the only 2 lans and a mjaor, prob if he wins blast gonna take it unless b1t fucking yanks it cause hei s a beast or electronic says, i could be better than s1mple) 2. Sh1ro/Zywoo (sh1ro most likely since his stats are just getting better and better plus 3 mvp andlots of evps and his lan peformance is stil lvery good) 3. Zywoo/Sh1ro 4. Ax1le (2 mvps from tier 1 tournements, very good grandfinal peformacnes, higher peaks than hobbit, more consistent than him to, he had a good cologne peformance) 5. Hobbit/Niko (most likely hobbit due to achievemnts but one of his mvps are from cis only tourney so not as notable as ax1le's mvp) 6. Niko/hobbit (niko mostl ikely but could change if he wins an mvp or just puts up s1mple numbers rest of year which has to be 1.3+ to boost his ratings high... 7. Electronic (tons of evps and is very consistent and an absolute beast on lan) 8. Yekindar ( 1.37 impact rating is insane and has insane peaks, prob some evps but not higher due to his consistency) 9. Device (even though shadow of himself, knowing hltv he prob top 9 cause of hjis iem fall mvp (i know i dont want him this high but this is hltv logic) 10. blameF (like ropz, has good stats but no achievemnts, but looking at blast rn, he can prob rack up an evp from that or mvp if he beats vitality and navi so that helps put him above ropz) 11. Ropz (top 7 worthy stats but no achievements to back up) 12. Twistzz ( has very good lan peformacne (1.17 rating on lan), has evp from iem cologne on lan and is in form rn and got 1.15 at blast which is lan with crowd) (over elige cause of lan peformance which is crucial) 13. Elige (played mostly in europe so cant say anything about that, his lan peformacnes put him down this low but he prob has iem katowice evp and is still a very good player) 14. Jame (just baits and saves to much, his adr is poor and his impact isnt as high as an awper should be, but his stats are good so hltv logic plus evp at katwoice) 15. Hunter (prob lots of evp cause of g2 semi placings and final on lan) 16. Stavn (currently playing like a star and is heroic's best player and prob has evps from their placings) 17. Naf (good stats but doesnt have as much achievemtns (but prob evp at blast global) as elige cause elige was their driving force at katowice,) 18. b1t (finally the rookie of the year who is cracked AF, woulda been higher if he played first 4 months fully, but his lan peformances push him into top 20 despite not playing much first 4 months) (he could be higher if he wins blast and gets mvp) 19. Broky (good on lan besides this blast but still and he has some high peaks) 20. Anyone you can think of cause hltv 20th spots are weird)
2021-11-28 01:00
#38
Xyp9x | 
Other Kynks
1 - s1mple i don't know rest of the list..
2021-11-28 01:27
9/10 .. looks good IMO
2021-11-28 01:29
#41
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Czech Republic imotfhere
ropz>broky b1t too high 5) stavn i dont think so 7 at best twistzz, jame>>>>kscerato hunter maybe too high but idk i would put b1t like 11 and hunter 13
2021-11-28 02:53
B1t >>>> Axile on LANS....
2021-11-28 10:55
3 replies
#95
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Czech Republic Luckjeen
ax1le 2 MVPS b1t 0 MVPS soo
2021-11-28 14:55
2 replies
I'm talking about LAN. You are talking about online..case closed
2021-11-28 16:40
1 reply
#101
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Czech Republic Luckjeen
Im talking about top 20 list
2021-11-28 16:45
1. s1mple 2. zywOo 3. sh1ro 4. NiKo 5. Hobbit 6. electronic 7. AxiLe 8. B1t 9. device 10. Jame
2021-11-28 10:59
1 reply
stavn??????
2021-11-28 15:02
#48
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Biske
iem winter coming so 1.s1mple 2.sh1ro 3.NiKo 4.Zywoo 5.Hobbit
2021-11-28 11:04
#50
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World streetson
IMHO ropz and jame too low, hobbit>ax1le, elige and stavn (dude has 1.01 rating in 2021) too high
2021-11-28 11:06
#51
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Greece RedWinter
1. s1mple 2. ZyWoo 3. sh1ro 4. NiKo 5. Electronic 6. Hobbit 7. Ax1le 8. b1t 9. device 10. yekindar 11. ropz 12. kscerato 13. hunter 14. ropz 15. Jame 16. REZ 17. Cadian 18. twistzz 19. BlameF 20. frozen
2021-11-28 11:10
6 replies
hobbit has like 0.10 more rating than electronic +2mvps
2021-11-28 11:11
1 reply
#57
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Greece RedWinter
I predict electronic to win 2 more tournaments
2021-11-28 11:16
not putting a cadian in top 20 is a crime
2021-11-28 11:13
2 replies
#56
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Greece RedWinter
bro read again
2021-11-28 11:16
1 reply
oh, sorry, I am blind :D
2021-11-28 11:46
Rez blameF wtf?
2021-11-28 12:56
broky ahead of ropz?
2021-11-28 11:10
#59
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Mongolia heedblank
2/8
2021-11-28 11:29
1/8
2021-11-28 11:32
Sh1ro should be after ZywOo and Niko. I can live with the rest of your list.
2021-11-28 12:05
1 reply
stats and MVPs say otherwise :)
2021-11-28 12:16
6/8
2021-11-28 12:10
#67
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Brazil guhzzz
kscerato and twistzz too low
2021-11-28 12:22
4 replies
flag checks out
2021-11-28 12:26
3 replies
#70
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Brazil guhzzz
yea twistzz is one of the best brazilian players
2021-11-28 12:32
2 replies
kscerato
2021-11-28 12:44
1 reply
#75
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Brazil guhzzz
I think kscerato and twistzz are in low positions because they played well this year, it's not because of the nationality of either of them
2021-11-28 12:50
how is stavn top 5?
2021-11-28 12:33
trash list to be honest. 0/8
2021-11-28 12:35
Why tf is elige here??
2021-11-28 12:36
lol, missing tabsen as a rifler, lol :P
2021-11-28 12:50
5 replies
I actually wanted to add him but don't know instead of whom
2021-11-28 12:53
4 replies
i would put him somewhere in between top 15-20 jame for instance?
2021-11-28 14:06
3 replies
lol jame is so good not even have a slightest intention to take jame off
2021-11-28 14:48
2 replies
dont you totally fall asleep watching him play? I mean ... even his stats are worse...
2021-11-28 14:52
1 reply
he has still good stats and he performed pretty well at the major (and got to the top 8)
2021-11-28 14:58
stopped reading after 5) stavn
2021-11-28 12:57
First of all it's NiKo and not niko. These are two different players. I would hope you meant Niko instead of niko. Secondly, cadiaN and YEKINDAR should be higher than huNter. Thirdly, Perfecto and refrezh should be in the top20. Fourthly, on number 20 , remove frozen and add tabseN.
2021-11-28 13:03
3 replies
first of all, all people know what niko I meant, secondly - ok Thirdly - instead of who?
2021-11-28 13:13
2 replies
instead of KSCERATO and frozen.
2021-11-28 13:35
1 reply
agreed with frozen but not with kserato
2021-11-28 14:59
#83
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Romania alexinio05
I honestly think hobbit deserves to be > electronic, and also hobbit definitely > ax1le Idk I'd also change some things in top 15-20, but other than that it's pretty decent, 6/8 edit: also cadiaN > hunter
2021-11-28 13:21
baitky in top 20 lmao
2021-11-28 13:38
1. s1mple 2. sh1ro 3. Niko 4. ZyWoo 5. Electronic 6. Hobbit 7. Ax1le 8. device 9. ropz 10. b1t 11. yekindar 12. kscerato 13. hunter 14. frozen 15. cadian 16. stavn 17. refresh 18. twistzz 19. BlameF 20. lucky
2021-11-28 13:46
2 replies
lucky :DDDDDDDDDD
2021-11-28 13:47
1 reply
he probably started watching pro cs just now )
2021-11-28 14:48
#94
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Czech Republic Luckjeen
ax1le electronic hobbit b1t >>>> stavn bro
2021-11-28 14:54
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