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India abhiccc123 
Imagine playing with such trash teammates and still having better stats than S1mple. No point in time S1mple had such useless team while Zywoo solo carrying a tier 3 team to top 5.
2021-11-28 23:44
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#1
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Algeria he_car
dupreeh and Magisk gonna save them soon anyway.
2021-11-28 23:44
8 replies
Can't wait, revamped Astralis and New Vitality is gonna be good
2021-11-29 08:23
7 replies
Just don't say later that dupreeh and Magisk are also bots)))
2021-11-29 08:28
6 replies
What do you mean?
2021-11-29 08:29
5 replies
ZywOo fans tell how he is now carrying 4 bots and how difficult it is for him))) so I'm asking you in advance... are dupreeh and Magisk bots too? So that you don't have any excuses later)))
2021-11-29 08:35
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#56
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Spain JesterS
fekts +1
2021-11-29 08:35
they are bots too, but medium instead of easy :)))
2021-11-29 08:36
Magisk and dupreeh ain't bots
2021-11-29 08:45
did u see blast stats? only zywoo had positive rating, if magisk and dupreeh play bad then would obviously be called bots
2021-12-03 02:41
s1mple 20 more ADR wtf r you talking about
2021-11-28 23:44
5 replies
dude s1mple can just go around farming bots (Apex, Shox, Kyojin) to boost his adr when Xi Wu actually has to go up against these insane riflers (perfecto, b1t, electronic). Who do you think will have better stats wtf?
2021-11-28 23:52
4 replies
Who is Xi Wu, I always saw the name in hltv.
2021-11-29 01:05
Xi Who?
2021-11-29 08:48
2 replies
Xi 0.91 woo
2021-11-29 09:29
1 reply
Xi 2-17 woo
2021-12-03 00:11
Do u know s1mple was one of the best players in the world with bad teams as well, right? Or are youu new to the cs:go scene
2021-11-28 23:44
21 replies
it's true, however, he never achieved the same heights as zywoo (twice #1) with such trash teams
2021-11-28 23:45
6 replies
I'm not saying zywoo is not as good as s1mple, what i'm saying is that this thread doesn't make sense lol. S1mple has and had monster stats in the past with bad teams too.
2021-11-28 23:46
#37
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India gXser
Lul zywoo didn't have a bad team in 2020 + before 2018 hltv ranking valued team accolades a lot more, players like s1mple and niko weren't place top even though everyone knew they were. Zywoo fans malding for no reason
2021-11-28 23:59
1 reply
ok
2021-12-02 19:22
Only because of online cs.
2021-11-29 09:42
Do you not realize how the ranking system worked back then? It changed in 2019 if im not wrong but it used to fixate a lot more on deeper tourney runs and team achievements rather than individual performance. If it was always like it is now kennyS would have gotten #1 in 2014, no hesitation lol
2021-12-03 02:48
1 reply
ok
2021-12-03 03:25
... s1mple always has electronic. Has Zywoo ever? His old friend shox?
2021-11-28 23:46
4 replies
Don't forget when s1mple was in liquid he was shining without electronic, zywoo is still new to the scene, he will get time to play with good people. S1mple had bad teams for years, we just gotta wait, we all know that both zywoo and s1mple are insane, but saying s1mple is worse thsn zywoo cuz zywoo does better without a team is just 0iq im sorry xd
2021-11-28 23:47
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I'm saying that s1mple perform better with better teammates. And so does zywoo. 2021 s1mple is better than 2018 s1mple you can check the stat, this year s1mple and navi such monster because of B1T. Zywoo also perform better with RpK and Nivera rather than Kyojin. But, neither RpK nor Nivera, nor Misuutaa as supporting as electronic or B1T. Liquid S1mple had Hiko and Elige, what are you talking about bad teammates? S1mple's "bad team" was never as bad as Zywoo.
2021-11-29 00:48
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omg he played the garbages like zeus and edward how can u say never as bad as hahahahaha. this "bad team" would beat the shit out of old navi. i have mad respect for zywoo but either u are not hearing what you are saying or u have no shame at all :D
2021-11-29 00:55
zywOo had Nivera...but 1d10ts kick him))) & misutaa - good rifler & Apex - nice IGL NOW Vitality have dupreeh and Magisk - 2 excellent riflers + great coach There should be no excuses in 2022, but I don't think they can beat NAVI!
2021-11-29 09:38
#17
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb
when??? he was ranked 8th in 2017 when he had a team like zywoo.zywo always top3 minimum
2021-11-28 23:47
8 replies
In 2017 u had insane names in the scene too.
2021-11-28 23:47
5 replies
#24
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb
so in 2019,2020. zywoo reached top 1 twice in those years without having good team
2021-11-28 23:49
4 replies
2020 there was no LAN so please. Let's skip that year anyway. We can only talk about how good zywoo is, but never say that s1mple is worse than zywoo only based on how this carries x or x carries y, please xd
2021-11-28 23:51
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#33
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb
it is never about who is better. problem is people saying s1mple was carrying like zywoo is doing in last 3 years. he never was.he always had support from another top7 player,without out that he never reached top 3 rank
2021-11-28 23:54
2 replies
No, s1mple was carrying in the past. Now he has a whole team with him, everyone plays their part and he doesn't need to do as many heroic plays as he did in the past. Which is good and that's why they're winning.
2021-11-28 23:55
1 reply
#35
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb
he was carrying with another good player. no alone like zywoo is doing now.
2021-11-28 23:56
The head of HLTV (Tgwri1s) himself said on twitter that the HLTV Top20 Rankings were made a little more focused on individual achievements after 2017. Till 2017, team achievements mattered a lot more than now. s1mple had 2nd best stats of 2017, but he was ranked 8th, since Navi wasn't even a Top10 team that year, barely even made playoffs.
2021-11-29 01:08
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#50
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb
and s1mple was rated like 10th or so in 2016, but was ranked 4th that year. rating alone matter in top 20 rankings. you need mvp/evps also. zywoo being alone top 20 player in his has like 7 evps this year. s1mple had like 1 small event mvp and 2 evps in 2017. s1mple wont make top 5 in 2017 no matter what. zywoo in 2020 has worse teammates than s1mple had in 2017. still zywoo is at minimum top 3 player with 6-7 evps. s1mple never did that alone.
2021-11-29 08:12
#4
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Poland Dzangow
better stats then S1mple? are you crazy? he has 20x worse stats than s1mple in this match
2021-11-28 23:44
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no
2021-11-28 23:46
his time will come. just not this time.
2021-11-28 23:45
RESPECT BOTH, TWO GODS prnt.sc/20y0q2i imgur.com/a/NuiS7ZR
2021-11-28 23:48
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#67
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Finland Kaljakka
S1mple literlally eats zywoo alive.
2021-12-01 13:26
2 replies
Or other way around))
2021-12-03 03:05
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#103
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Finland Kaljakka
S1mple_1_major_mvp_zywoo_hobbit_0
2021-12-03 12:47
hltv.org/matches/2352820/natus-vincere-v.. ? what are you talking about?
2021-11-28 23:45
what did you smoke to think zywoo had better stats
2021-11-28 23:45
"no point in time s1mple had such useless team" lol
2021-11-28 23:45
1 reply
He probably watches cs from 2021
2021-11-28 23:46
Nt no scene
2021-11-28 23:46
? Better stats r u dumb he dropped 36 on first map lmao
2021-11-28 23:46
better rating where?
2021-11-28 23:48
0/8 flair checks out
2021-11-28 23:48
Lmao zywoo got humbled by s1mple for the 10th time s1mple was also performing better than zywoo with trash teamm8s...it's not about the team, it's about zywoo being half as good as s1
2021-11-28 23:48
1 reply
Some hard truth here. But zywoo not half of s1mple in skill tho.
2021-11-28 23:58
#23
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Ukraine McSwell
"Better stats" is a hallucination from copium overdose.
2021-11-28 23:48
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#108
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Korea ramza72
even s1mple better stat than zywoo 2020 but zywoo helped by more mvp on rmr , s1mple robbed
2021-12-03 14:09
bad bait 0/8
2021-11-28 23:49
#26
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Mongolia k0ng0
Newfag spotted. <you must have missed the 6 last years when s1mple played in Flipsid3, hellraisers, Liquid and then Na'Vi on the downfall with zeus, Edward and Guardian who at the time played like complete bots. s1mple has done the long haul trust me. Meanwhile ZyWoO joins fucking Vitality as his first team ever lmao.
2021-11-28 23:50
better stats than S1mple? How where when?
2021-11-28 23:51
Zywoo has almost the same tournament rating as s1mple while carrying 2 mediocre (Apex, misutaa) and 2 bots (shox, kyojin) while s1mple actually has timemates who help him out. I still think Zywoo and s1mple are on the same level, s1mple just has the better mates and better system rn. Imagine what Zywoo could do in a team like G2.
2021-11-28 23:52
#31
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Europe gazxhe
change dealer please
2021-11-28 23:53
"S1mple has a team behind him!" Yes he does, he has a crazy team behind him and he's still the best rated player of that team, why is it s1mples fault that he actually has a team behind him? (He played for years in shitty lineups, he fucking worked for this lineup for a long time, so fucking deserved.) Zyw00 has time, he probably will try the same thing, s1mple was actually zywoo before zywoo came, a 1-man team. Stop with the stupid trolling and hate, enjoy these players, s1mple just is GOAT.
2021-11-28 23:53
2 replies
flamie was actually pretty good in 17 and 18 still, had roughly a 1.1 rating across both years. electronic was also there with him in 18. zeus and edward obviously dragged the team down, though
2021-11-29 01:01
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#89
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
though, zeus and edward were enough to completely cancel out everything elec flamie and s1mple had to offer but s1mple was too busy breaking records in 18 to care. Then fast forward to 2020 online Flamie + bl4d3 and booms shitty last second strats paired with electronics inconsistency online literally screwed s1mples year over completely and yet he still had the highest rating among any player that year (beating zywoo by 0.01).
2021-12-03 03:18
He had better stats in both bo3 against Vita as well as the the whole tournament itself, so what are you on about?
2021-11-29 00:00
so wait u r saying s1mple didnt have to carry zeus and edward (and flamie most of the time) in 2018?
2021-11-29 00:01
7 replies
How old are you? flamie in 2018 was better than Misuta and Kyojin, Edward was better than Kyojin, and you also forget the electronic, and only Zeus is the worst in shooting mechanics and movement, well, even so he plays Kyojin no worse.
2021-11-29 01:09
#63
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France iatis
2018 : Edward : 0.98 Zeus : 0.92 Flamie : 1.06 S1mple : 1.35 Electronic : 1.21 Team perf : 1.09, second best team this year Vita 2021 : 8 team as of now Shox : 0.99 Apex : 0.98 Zywoo : 1.29 Misu : 1.01 Kyojin : 0.92
2021-11-29 09:57
1 reply
+ 9999999
2021-12-01 13:21
Flamie was still good in 2018 and he had electronic who is better than him on his team wtf you talking about lol
2021-12-01 13:26
3 replies
u are dumb and clearly cannot read, go get some education and dont talk to me
2021-12-02 09:14
2 replies
I guess ur just braindead lmao
2021-12-03 02:28
1 reply
your🤡🤡
2021-12-03 14:01
"no point in time s1mple has such useless teammates" lmao did you watch CS only in 2021 or something?
2021-11-29 01:04
feel bad for zywoo
2021-11-29 01:06
#49
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Finland Allicon
ZyWOo reminds me of 2017 s1mple, when Natus Vincere had the worst year ever... Even though s1mple just joined, and that year he was still a monster, because of teammates he couldn't win much... He proved next year that he's absolute beast... s1mple was around same age then than ZyWOo now. ZyWOo has so many years to win something, get better teammates or change the team (which is not likely). But I still hope ZyWOo to perform well, because otherwise his team can't do much...
2021-11-29 01:14
Literally doesnt have better stats but ok,believe that garbage if you want to
2021-11-29 08:26
better stats than S1mple? what did you smoke?
2021-12-01 13:24
1 reply
Can you read , Zywoo carring bots and get almost the same stats 1.36 to 1.39 and simple have The best mates ever. zywoo never , never had a player in his team who was near electronic near something, and he does it 3 years now. And zywoo still was 2 best 1 player while he has no beast team as siple, He is carrying them 3 years now, wait until 2022 and you will see what stats zywoo will drop
2021-12-01 13:31
wtf is wrong with zywoo fans lmao
2021-12-01 13:25
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#107
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Korea ramza72
ZYWOO FANS STILL NOT ACCEPT REALITY
2021-12-03 14:08
#71
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Ukraine McSwell
Zywoo's sore excusers strike again.
2021-12-02 09:27
2020 Navi S1mple 1.29 Electronic 1.14 Boombl4 0.98 Perfecto 0.98 Flamie 0.96 Vitality ZywOo 1.28 RpK 1.00 Shox 1.04 Apex 1.00 Misutaaa 0.98 And you said Vita was bad at that time? Come on.
2021-12-03 01:37
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#106
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Korea ramza72
just ignore and let zylul fans talk on HLTV , they will make excuse zywoo have bad team when he lose haha
2021-12-03 14:07
they are both great.. not one is better than the other.. it will just depend the days.. their teams ect .. stop arguing really
2021-12-03 01:46
2 replies
S1mple is clearly better though. Literally holds the 2 world records for highest rated player in a year + major + grand slam... + 2x #2 + 2x #1. I don't see why some people doubt this. Although it thankfully only seems to be hltv users - all pros and analysists do not doubt that s1mple is the goat - even Maniac calls s1mple the goat...
2021-12-03 02:35
s1mple is objectively better, much better.
2021-12-03 03:06
s1mple has always been much better than zywoo s1mple had many teams worse than zywoo's teams, even a team composed of 4 irl friends, and always made them competitive by playing on a much higher level than zywoo...so the argument that zywoo doesn't have good stats because his team ain't as good really doesn't hold. S1mple was often in worse shoes and has always played better. There's nothing to understand...s1 is simply vastly superior.
2021-12-03 03:08
16 replies
#83
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Bahrain Ax1yn
Are you Torres_ 🤔 seems like someone is using a fake flag. Using the french flag and typing this, This doesn't sound good 🤔 Maybe go back to your original flag 🤔
2021-12-03 03:12
15 replies
I'm actually french lmao, just objective enough to admit s1mple is better.
2021-12-03 03:13
14 replies
#86
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Bahrain Ax1yn
Are you though 🤔 I feel like, I've seen you in many threads baiting people. Sounds like Torres_ to me because every time he tries to make a thread he doesn't get that much attention.
2021-12-03 03:14
13 replies
I don't bait and I don't even know who torres is but just like most french ppl, we can admit s1mple is objectively much better. Nothing wrong with that. A human can't surpass a god and it's fine
2021-12-03 03:15
12 replies
#88
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Bahrain Ax1yn
I see that what Torres_ would say to be honest. Because like 70% of HLTV knows he uses fake flags every hour, He went from Germany, Denmark, Australia, French, Also he hasn't used Russia and Ukraine flags yet. I'm actually surprised about that one.
2021-12-03 03:17
#90
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Bahrain Ax1yn
Sure dude, maybe you're the only French person in HLTV who thinks s1mple is better, I don't think i will find the same answer here but go on, I think you're just using a fake flag and I don't think there isn't anything wrong with that literally like whole HLTV fake flags. 🤥
2021-12-03 03:22
10 replies
I don't need to use a fake flag, I'm known in France lol and admins can confirm I have a french ip..and would be weird for a fake flager to speak french Mais si ça peut te faire plaisir :)
2021-12-03 03:23
9 replies
#93
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Bahrain Ax1yn
Vous n'êtes qu'une fausse personne, ça va bien que personne ne s'en soucie ici, littéralement tout le site est faux Regardez, je peux utiliser l'outil de traduction google
2021-12-03 03:25
8 replies
La différence c'est que ça se voit que tu utilises google trad mdr, nt not gonna bother with you, I have better things to do than talking with a random.
2021-12-03 03:32
7 replies
#96
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Bahrain Ax1yn
Vous êtes tellement stupides quand vous utilisez de faux drapeaux, vous êtes tellement lâches que vous n'utilisez même pas leurs propres drapeaux
2021-12-03 03:32
6 replies
sure sure, clown.
2021-12-03 03:32
5 replies
#98
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Bahrain Ax1yn
It's okay though i caught you using a fake flag next time when i see you, You better be ready for a conversation. Because next time you will get exposed same like Torres_
2021-12-03 03:33
4 replies
You caught nothing, I'm a known french user, and used to play 1.6 professionally...
2021-12-03 03:33
1 reply
#100
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Bahrain Ax1yn
Ain't no one cares about your 1.6 carriers, Coward fake flagger.
2021-12-03 03:34
"You better be ready for a conversation" no thanks, and this is my last message to you...I don't wadte my time with nonamers that never accomplished crap in this game. Fake Flagger.
2021-12-03 03:34
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#102
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Bahrain Ax1yn
I already got a screenshot don't worry man, It's okay though next time people will just know that you use a fake flag and just talks shit about Zywoo which no one will understand if i find another french user. Goodnight clown keeps using the fake flag to make more hate threads. Also thanks for visiting my profile.
2021-12-03 03:36
what about when navi had edward and zeus though, they were both weighing down the team
2021-12-03 03:09
#92
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Argentina cheapdeed
if 2ywoo too good where major at???
2021-12-03 03:24
#105
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Korea ramza72
ofc good stat because zywoo took all kill lol you said bad team right
2021-12-03 14:03
Like s1mple a year ago,when flamie playing like a bot
2021-12-03 14:14
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